Candidate blasts selection system after 'party-political Mayoral vote'

Cllr Brian Pearce

Cllr Khalil Ahmed

Mayor Cllr Trevor Snaith

First published in News Bucks Free Press: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

A MAYORAL candidate says he feels "sickened and disillusioned" with the way the selection system has become politically motivated.

Cllr Brian Pearce missed out on the role after the name of his mayoral rival, Cllr Khalil Ahmed, was drawn out of a hat after the vote was tied.

The Mayor is supposed to be an apolitical role yet Cllr Simon Parker, leader of the Wycombe Liberal Democrats, admitted he voted for Labour nominee Cllr Ahmed because he ‘felt his group owed them one’ and could not bring himself to back UKIP representative Cllr Pearce.

Cllr Pearce said: "It’s very distasteful; I’m disillusioned and extremely sickened by it - party politics shouldn’t come in to it.

"I sent an email round to everyone to say I would like to be mayor and I would still love to be mayor of this town, I love this town."

Cllr Pearce said he even phoned UKIP leader Nigel Farage, who visits the area this weekend, to ask if he would steer clear of Wycombe next year in the event he was selected as mayor.

He said: "Nigel Farage initially thought it was a gagging order but he respected my request as it wasn’t about trying to make political gains.

"I just want to serve the town, I respect the mayoralty too much to bring politics into it. The mayoralty should not be a political post."

Lib Dem leader Cllr Parker denied any deal was in place but did admit he voted for Labour Cllr Ahmed after they backed Mayor Cllr Trevor Snaith’s charge last year.

He also told the BFP that while he thought Cllr Pearce would make a good mayor he could not back a UKIP member.

Cllr Parker said: "I felt we owed a debt of gratitude to Labour after they helped secure Trevor’s election. I felt we owed them something.

"There’s also the UKIP aspect of it. I appreciate it’s apolitical and I’d have no hesitation voting for Brian as a person, but he’s a UKIP party member and I don’t think that would reflect well on Wycombe.

"It has to be said the notion of non-political voting was lost this year. We need to get back to that next year, we’re all grown ups."

The mayor-to-be Cllr Khalil Ahmed agreed the mayoral vote has become political, saying: "Politics should be left out of it."

Cllr Tony Green said the Conservatives had always voted for the person best suited to the task and believes Labour and the Lib Dems have an agreement in place to alternate the mayoralty between parties.

He said: "Brian is a hard working member of the council and a well known member of the community and I told him last year that I would support him for it if he put himself forward. Party politics is not a consideration."

Mayor Cllr Snaith said he could not comment as the mayor is apolitical.

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1:11pm Sat 25 Jan 14

yog says...

Sorry but this outburst just proves that Councillors were right to vote against Brian.
Sorry but this outburst just proves that Councillors were right to vote against Brian. yog
  • Score: -39

4:25pm Sat 25 Jan 14

BOOKERite says...

How can you possibly get the right candidate for the Mayoral role if Councillors
vote politically, mind you it doesn't surprise me.

You should be ashamed of yourself Cllr Parker, you weren't voted in by the people of Booker because you were a Lib Dem, but because you were prepared to fight against the stadium.
How can you possibly get the right candidate for the Mayoral role if Councillors vote politically, mind you it doesn't surprise me. You should be ashamed of yourself Cllr Parker, you weren't voted in by the people of Booker because you were a Lib Dem, but because you were prepared to fight against the stadium. BOOKERite
  • Score: 45

4:49pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Bajina says...

yog wrote:
Sorry but this outburst just proves that Councillors were right to vote against Brian.
Going by the article, the agreed process was followed. then the Hat favoured one over the other. The End. So why this pathetic Pearce's Petulance in the Paper?
UKIP wanted to use Pearce's petulance to highlight something else.

Health Warning for UKIP: Stick to your right-wing comfort zone, nice easy pickings there. Take on the Left at your own peril; remember what happened to the Neo-fasists and Skinheads, The Libs and Labs may fight each other, but at the end of the day it is only a family spat; blood is thinker than water.
[quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: Sorry but this outburst just proves that Councillors were right to vote against Brian.[/p][/quote]Going by the article, the agreed process was followed. then the Hat favoured one over the other. The End. So why this pathetic Pearce's Petulance in the Paper? UKIP wanted to use Pearce's petulance to highlight something else. Health Warning for UKIP: Stick to your right-wing comfort zone, nice easy pickings there. Take on the Left at your own peril; remember what happened to the Neo-fasists and Skinheads, The Libs and Labs may fight each other, but at the end of the day it is only a family spat; blood is thinker than water. Bajina
  • Score: -43

4:55pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Robert.M says...

Bajina wrote:
yog wrote:
Sorry but this outburst just proves that Councillors were right to vote against Brian.
Going by the article, the agreed process was followed. then the Hat favoured one over the other. The End. So why this pathetic Pearce's Petulance in the Paper?
UKIP wanted to use Pearce's petulance to highlight something else.

Health Warning for UKIP: Stick to your right-wing comfort zone, nice easy pickings there. Take on the Left at your own peril; remember what happened to the Neo-fasists and Skinheads, The Libs and Labs may fight each other, but at the end of the day it is only a family spat; blood is thinker than water.
What a load of twaddle
[quote][p][bold]Bajina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: Sorry but this outburst just proves that Councillors were right to vote against Brian.[/p][/quote]Going by the article, the agreed process was followed. then the Hat favoured one over the other. The End. So why this pathetic Pearce's Petulance in the Paper? UKIP wanted to use Pearce's petulance to highlight something else. Health Warning for UKIP: Stick to your right-wing comfort zone, nice easy pickings there. Take on the Left at your own peril; remember what happened to the Neo-fasists and Skinheads, The Libs and Labs may fight each other, but at the end of the day it is only a family spat; blood is thinker than water.[/p][/quote]What a load of twaddle Robert.M
  • Score: 50

5:24pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Bajina says...

Robert.M wrote:
Bajina wrote:
yog wrote:
Sorry but this outburst just proves that Councillors were right to vote against Brian.
Going by the article, the agreed process was followed. then the Hat favoured one over the other. The End. So why this pathetic Pearce's Petulance in the Paper?
UKIP wanted to use Pearce's petulance to highlight something else.

Health Warning for UKIP: Stick to your right-wing comfort zone, nice easy pickings there. Take on the Left at your own peril; remember what happened to the Neo-fasists and Skinheads, The Libs and Labs may fight each other, but at the end of the day it is only a family spat; blood is thinker than water.
What a load of twaddle
Fine and precise debating technique.
All that is missing is 'Humbug' and 'hang him'
[quote][p][bold]Robert.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bajina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: Sorry but this outburst just proves that Councillors were right to vote against Brian.[/p][/quote]Going by the article, the agreed process was followed. then the Hat favoured one over the other. The End. So why this pathetic Pearce's Petulance in the Paper? UKIP wanted to use Pearce's petulance to highlight something else. Health Warning for UKIP: Stick to your right-wing comfort zone, nice easy pickings there. Take on the Left at your own peril; remember what happened to the Neo-fasists and Skinheads, The Libs and Labs may fight each other, but at the end of the day it is only a family spat; blood is thinker than water.[/p][/quote]What a load of twaddle[/p][/quote]Fine and precise debating technique. All that is missing is 'Humbug' and 'hang him' Bajina
  • Score: -46

7:07pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Welwyn Dowd says...

I can understand any decent person not voting for a representative of the xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist, racist UKIP. Lib Dem and Labour Councillors made a responsible choice. While I can understand, but not condone, the support from the Tories, I fail to work out why the four British Asians (one a woman) within the Tory councillors voted for him. They would support a man from a Party that would prevent their relatives visiting this country and even have them repatriated to Pakistan?
I can understand any decent person not voting for a representative of the xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist, racist UKIP. Lib Dem and Labour Councillors made a responsible choice. While I can understand, but not condone, the support from the Tories, I fail to work out why the four British Asians (one a woman) within the Tory councillors voted for him. They would support a man from a Party that would prevent their relatives visiting this country and even have them repatriated to Pakistan? Welwyn Dowd
  • Score: -31

11:18pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Dickitdo says...

Bajina wrote:
Robert.M wrote:
Bajina wrote:
yog wrote:
Sorry but this outburst just proves that Councillors were right to vote against Brian.
Going by the article, the agreed process was followed. then the Hat favoured one over the other. The End. So why this pathetic Pearce's Petulance in the Paper?
UKIP wanted to use Pearce's petulance to highlight something else.

Health Warning for UKIP: Stick to your right-wing comfort zone, nice easy pickings there. Take on the Left at your own peril; remember what happened to the Neo-fasists and Skinheads, The Libs and Labs may fight each other, but at the end of the day it is only a family spat; blood is thinker than water.
What a load of twaddle
Fine and precise debating technique.
All that is missing is 'Humbug' and 'hang him'
I thought that voting for the Mayor was supposed to be on a non political basis, but on this occasion , this has not occurred. This Election is "Flawed" and the person or persons responsible should be held too account. The rules of an election do not include putting names in a hat , despite what has been agreed by the candidates . This is a complete fiasco and a very poor show if this is how these Councillors do the job they should be considering their positions.This has not been fair , and it can,t be justified . It does not matter who wins the Election but it should be held in a fair and just way .this was not ." Feckless comes to mind "
[quote][p][bold]Bajina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robert.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bajina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: Sorry but this outburst just proves that Councillors were right to vote against Brian.[/p][/quote]Going by the article, the agreed process was followed. then the Hat favoured one over the other. The End. So why this pathetic Pearce's Petulance in the Paper? UKIP wanted to use Pearce's petulance to highlight something else. Health Warning for UKIP: Stick to your right-wing comfort zone, nice easy pickings there. Take on the Left at your own peril; remember what happened to the Neo-fasists and Skinheads, The Libs and Labs may fight each other, but at the end of the day it is only a family spat; blood is thinker than water.[/p][/quote]What a load of twaddle[/p][/quote]Fine and precise debating technique. All that is missing is 'Humbug' and 'hang him'[/p][/quote]I thought that voting for the Mayor was supposed to be on a non political basis, but on this occasion , this has not occurred. This Election is "Flawed" and the person or persons responsible should be held too account. The rules of an election do not include putting names in a hat , despite what has been agreed by the candidates . This is a complete fiasco and a very poor show if this is how these Councillors do the job they should be considering their positions.This has not been fair , and it can,t be justified . It does not matter who wins the Election but it should be held in a fair and just way .this was not ." Feckless comes to mind " Dickitdo
  • Score: 46

8:18am Sun 26 Jan 14

1wycombe says...

UKIP....ARE RACIST STAY CLEAR OF THEM.

BRIAN GET OVER YOU LITTLE MORON
UKIP....ARE RACIST STAY CLEAR OF THEM. BRIAN GET OVER YOU LITTLE MORON 1wycombe
  • Score: -33

11:49am Sun 26 Jan 14

legiopatrianostra says...

Welwyn Dowd wrote:
I can understand any decent person not voting for a representative of the xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist, racist UKIP. Lib Dem and Labour Councillors made a responsible choice. While I can understand, but not condone, the support from the Tories, I fail to work out why the four British Asians (one a woman) within the Tory councillors voted for him. They would support a man from a Party that would prevent their relatives visiting this country and even have them repatriated to Pakistan?
Hmm, let's see, Labour accepts ex-BNP and EDL members, UKIP doesn't, Labour Party also supports violent trade Unions who picket and threaten people in their homes, resort to undemocratic means of selection, I could go on. As for the LibDems, guess you've not seen the headlines recently about their reluctance to suspend Rennard, Hancock and then there's David Ward's continuous rants about Israel and the Jews. Perhaps you should look towards your own back yard before squealing and labelling.
[quote][p][bold]Welwyn Dowd[/bold] wrote: I can understand any decent person not voting for a representative of the xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist, racist UKIP. Lib Dem and Labour Councillors made a responsible choice. While I can understand, but not condone, the support from the Tories, I fail to work out why the four British Asians (one a woman) within the Tory councillors voted for him. They would support a man from a Party that would prevent their relatives visiting this country and even have them repatriated to Pakistan?[/p][/quote]Hmm, let's see, Labour accepts ex-BNP and EDL members, UKIP doesn't, Labour Party also supports violent trade Unions who picket and threaten people in their homes, resort to undemocratic means of selection, I could go on. As for the LibDems, guess you've not seen the headlines recently about their reluctance to suspend Rennard, Hancock and then there's David Ward's continuous rants about Israel and the Jews. Perhaps you should look towards your own back yard before squealing and labelling. legiopatrianostra
  • Score: 34

9:58am Mon 27 Jan 14

Darren Hayday says...

The truth is is = Brian is the best person for the role of Mayor - I would have voted for him. The Libdems are seemly turning very nasty against the UKIP party and its because they find them as a threat. UKIP are likely to overtake them in the polls.
Simon held the power over this decision from a long time ago. It is politically motivated rather than voting for the best person - which is wrong.
However saying that - Brian know that he had to wait longer to be in with a chance of running and needs to secure a 2nd term in office.
I've decided to stand again in the WDC elections next year in May for the Booker and Cressex ward - as an Independent candidate - so it will be fun and games running against both Simon and Brian! I would also be looking at standing with a running partner - also a fellow Independent.
It’s time that the ward was represented by the people and not the parties!
PS – Yog = the Wycombe Libdem party agent, if he’s geared up to say anything derogatory against me or anyone one else on this site. (especially UKIP)
The truth is is = Brian is the best person for the role of Mayor - I would have voted for him. The Libdems are seemly turning very nasty against the UKIP party and its because they find them as a threat. UKIP are likely to overtake them in the polls. Simon held the power over this decision from a long time ago. It is politically motivated rather than voting for the best person - which is wrong. However saying that - Brian know that he had to wait longer to be in with a chance of running and needs to secure a 2nd term in office. I've decided to stand again in the WDC elections next year in May for the Booker and Cressex ward - as an Independent candidate - so it will be fun and games running against both Simon and Brian! I would also be looking at standing with a running partner - also a fellow Independent. It’s time that the ward was represented by the people and not the parties! PS – Yog = the Wycombe Libdem party agent, if he’s geared up to say anything derogatory against me or anyone one else on this site. (especially UKIP) Darren Hayday
  • Score: 22

10:41pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Welwyn Dowd says...

UKIP are a threat to every non-white in Britain. Oswald Moseley and the BUF in the 1930s, Nick Griffin and the BNP now and f-wit Farage and his Tory fellow-travellers now are just the latest incarnations of slimy facism.
UKIP are a threat to every non-white in Britain. Oswald Moseley and the BUF in the 1930s, Nick Griffin and the BNP now and f-wit Farage and his Tory fellow-travellers now are just the latest incarnations of slimy facism. Welwyn Dowd
  • Score: -23

5:06pm Tue 28 Jan 14

legiopatrianostra says...

Welwyn Dowd wrote:
UKIP are a threat to every non-white in Britain. Oswald Moseley and the BUF in the 1930s, Nick Griffin and the BNP now and f-wit Farage and his Tory fellow-travellers now are just the latest incarnations of slimy facism.
Why are they a threat to "every non-white" in Britain? I would suggest the only threat they pose, are to the three main parties, all of which are trying to do their utmost to preserve the status quo.
[quote][p][bold]Welwyn Dowd[/bold] wrote: UKIP are a threat to every non-white in Britain. Oswald Moseley and the BUF in the 1930s, Nick Griffin and the BNP now and f-wit Farage and his Tory fellow-travellers now are just the latest incarnations of slimy facism.[/p][/quote]Why are they a threat to "every non-white" in Britain? I would suggest the only threat they pose, are to the three main parties, all of which are trying to do their utmost to preserve the status quo. legiopatrianostra
  • Score: 15

6:16pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Darren Hayday says...

legiopatrianostra wrote:
Welwyn Dowd wrote:
UKIP are a threat to every non-white in Britain. Oswald Moseley and the BUF in the 1930s, Nick Griffin and the BNP now and f-wit Farage and his Tory fellow-travellers now are just the latest incarnations of slimy facism.
Why are they a threat to "every non-white" in Britain? I would suggest the only threat they pose, are to the three main parties, all of which are trying to do their utmost to preserve the status quo.
I agree. They are rattling the cages of mostly the Libdems (because they are going to be over taken potentially by UKIP) and also the Conservative Party (as they are losing members and voters to them)- I don’t think that Labour are concerned about them though. It's nothing more than loss of power and they being the new kids on the block. I'm anti the main 3 parties and all for new competition and of course Independent candidates! (mainly!) The 3 main parties have had things stitched up for far too long (especially the Tories and of course the Libdems coming from the old Liberials / Whigs). However I do think that the UKIP party will reach a high water mark at some point in the near future. I also believe that the Libdems would become irrelevant in British politics but before they depart, they will still be needed to form a next coalition (with perhaps the Labour Party). The sad fact will be though that voting numbers will go down a lot at the next general election as many UKIP voters don’t actually go out to vote and most people are annoyed at the whole system in general and don’t want to vote for any of them as they see they are all the same.
[quote][p][bold]legiopatrianostra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welwyn Dowd[/bold] wrote: UKIP are a threat to every non-white in Britain. Oswald Moseley and the BUF in the 1930s, Nick Griffin and the BNP now and f-wit Farage and his Tory fellow-travellers now are just the latest incarnations of slimy facism.[/p][/quote]Why are they a threat to "every non-white" in Britain? I would suggest the only threat they pose, are to the three main parties, all of which are trying to do their utmost to preserve the status quo.[/p][/quote]I agree. They are rattling the cages of mostly the Libdems (because they are going to be over taken potentially by UKIP) and also the Conservative Party (as they are losing members and voters to them)- I don’t think that Labour are concerned about them though. It's nothing more than loss of power and they being the new kids on the block. I'm anti the main 3 parties and all for new competition and of course Independent candidates! (mainly!) The 3 main parties have had things stitched up for far too long (especially the Tories and of course the Libdems coming from the old Liberials / Whigs). However I do think that the UKIP party will reach a high water mark at some point in the near future. I also believe that the Libdems would become irrelevant in British politics but before they depart, they will still be needed to form a next coalition (with perhaps the Labour Party). The sad fact will be though that voting numbers will go down a lot at the next general election as many UKIP voters don’t actually go out to vote and most people are annoyed at the whole system in general and don’t want to vote for any of them as they see they are all the same. Darren Hayday
  • Score: 7

4:47pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Scarletto says...

Oh groan, don't look but here's our Councillor Hayday who has sympathy with UKIP (The UK Isolation Party) which has an assortment of odd bods often found propping up a bar and reading the Daily Mail or Dingbats' Monthly.
Some UKIP members are a paler shade of the BNP etc. and should be avoided either because they hold poisonous views or are seriously bewildered and on medication.
The Nazi Party started quietly in the 1920s and 30s calling for flag waving national pride (nothing wrong with that) but in the end it was jew etc. hating by saying they were at the root of national ills and exterminating them was for the best. Some UKIP members seem to blame immigrants for a lot and their councillor member in Henley, for instance, two weeks ago said the awful national floods and steady rain was because same sex marriages had been approved! A fine figure of an apparent deranged loony who wore his UKIP badge with pride. He also said he didn't like pet owners!! Say no more... Best to stick with the warts and all three main parties and possibly the Greens than follow the poisonous creed spouted by some UKIP operatives. They've cornered some of the red neck oaf voters and for the moment some nice people think UKIP sounds appealing. The fact is we're in Europe and should have our say into what happens in it in the same way as a US state is part of one proud nation.
Nige F seems a jolly fellow but we should all worry about the ragbag of signed up mutants who make up a percentage of UKIP membership. A corrosive to our national traditions and pride as we face the future with hope in our hearts. Anyway, enough said ...I must return to my fireside, pipe, slippers and Tarquin, my cat.
Oh groan, don't look but here's our Councillor Hayday who has sympathy with UKIP (The UK Isolation Party) which has an assortment of odd bods often found propping up a bar and reading the Daily Mail or Dingbats' Monthly. Some UKIP members are a paler shade of the BNP etc. and should be avoided either because they hold poisonous views or are seriously bewildered and on medication. The Nazi Party started quietly in the 1920s and 30s calling for flag waving national pride (nothing wrong with that) but in the end it was jew etc. hating by saying they were at the root of national ills and exterminating them was for the best. Some UKIP members seem to blame immigrants for a lot and their councillor member in Henley, for instance, two weeks ago said the awful national floods and steady rain was because same sex marriages had been approved! A fine figure of an apparent deranged loony who wore his UKIP badge with pride. He also said he didn't like pet owners!! Say no more... Best to stick with the warts and all three main parties and possibly the Greens than follow the poisonous creed spouted by some UKIP operatives. They've cornered some of the red neck oaf voters and for the moment some nice people think UKIP sounds appealing. The fact is we're in Europe and should have our say into what happens in it in the same way as a US state is part of one proud nation. Nige F seems a jolly fellow but we should all worry about the ragbag of signed up mutants who make up a percentage of UKIP membership. A corrosive to our national traditions and pride as we face the future with hope in our hearts. Anyway, enough said ...I must return to my fireside, pipe, slippers and Tarquin, my cat. Scarletto
  • Score: -20

5:09pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Darren Hayday says...

Scarletto wrote:
Oh groan, don't look but here's our Councillor Hayday who has sympathy with UKIP (The UK Isolation Party) which has an assortment of odd bods often found propping up a bar and reading the Daily Mail or Dingbats' Monthly.
Some UKIP members are a paler shade of the BNP etc. and should be avoided either because they hold poisonous views or are seriously bewildered and on medication.
The Nazi Party started quietly in the 1920s and 30s calling for flag waving national pride (nothing wrong with that) but in the end it was jew etc. hating by saying they were at the root of national ills and exterminating them was for the best. Some UKIP members seem to blame immigrants for a lot and their councillor member in Henley, for instance, two weeks ago said the awful national floods and steady rain was because same sex marriages had been approved! A fine figure of an apparent deranged loony who wore his UKIP badge with pride. He also said he didn't like pet owners!! Say no more... Best to stick with the warts and all three main parties and possibly the Greens than follow the poisonous creed spouted by some UKIP operatives. They've cornered some of the red neck oaf voters and for the moment some nice people think UKIP sounds appealing. The fact is we're in Europe and should have our say into what happens in it in the same way as a US state is part of one proud nation.
Nige F seems a jolly fellow but we should all worry about the ragbag of signed up mutants who make up a percentage of UKIP membership. A corrosive to our national traditions and pride as we face the future with hope in our hearts. Anyway, enough said ...I must return to my fireside, pipe, slippers and Tarquin, my cat.
So says Cllr Julia Wazzel - the Libdem member hiding under the name 'Scarletto', i guess that it relates to the colour 'red' when she was last a die-hard Labour card carrying member - who likes jumping ship each time that it looks likely that she will not get re-elected in her part of the world. Saint Julia speaks with her usual anti right rhetoric, to stir things up! :op
[quote][p][bold]Scarletto[/bold] wrote: Oh groan, don't look but here's our Councillor Hayday who has sympathy with UKIP (The UK Isolation Party) which has an assortment of odd bods often found propping up a bar and reading the Daily Mail or Dingbats' Monthly. Some UKIP members are a paler shade of the BNP etc. and should be avoided either because they hold poisonous views or are seriously bewildered and on medication. The Nazi Party started quietly in the 1920s and 30s calling for flag waving national pride (nothing wrong with that) but in the end it was jew etc. hating by saying they were at the root of national ills and exterminating them was for the best. Some UKIP members seem to blame immigrants for a lot and their councillor member in Henley, for instance, two weeks ago said the awful national floods and steady rain was because same sex marriages had been approved! A fine figure of an apparent deranged loony who wore his UKIP badge with pride. He also said he didn't like pet owners!! Say no more... Best to stick with the warts and all three main parties and possibly the Greens than follow the poisonous creed spouted by some UKIP operatives. They've cornered some of the red neck oaf voters and for the moment some nice people think UKIP sounds appealing. The fact is we're in Europe and should have our say into what happens in it in the same way as a US state is part of one proud nation. Nige F seems a jolly fellow but we should all worry about the ragbag of signed up mutants who make up a percentage of UKIP membership. A corrosive to our national traditions and pride as we face the future with hope in our hearts. Anyway, enough said ...I must return to my fireside, pipe, slippers and Tarquin, my cat.[/p][/quote]So says Cllr Julia Wazzel - the Libdem member hiding under the name 'Scarletto', i guess that it relates to the colour 'red' when she was last a die-hard Labour card carrying member - who likes jumping ship each time that it looks likely that she will not get re-elected in her part of the world. Saint Julia speaks with her usual anti right rhetoric, to stir things up! :op Darren Hayday
  • Score: 11

5:32pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Bajina says...

Care Darren. If it was not for the LibDems we would not have Pupil Premium of £1200.00/pupil directly to schools for the underprivileged kids.
We can all agree this is the best thing for Reducing the Gap in Buckinghamshire Education. Especially for the large number of underachieving kids from both our parts of town. We also would not have this money applied correctly if not for the Libs had not created mere hell at Ofsted.

UKIP is just starting to make an impression in County Scrutiny, Libdems have been batting there, virtually alone against the Mighty Blues for 20+ years. so lets doff the cap at them for this effort as well.

I understand local politics and scraping for honours (right ot wrong), but the lets keep what they are doing in mind eh?
Care Darren. If it was not for the LibDems we would not have Pupil Premium of £1200.00/pupil directly to schools for the underprivileged kids. We can all agree this is the best thing for Reducing the Gap in Buckinghamshire Education. Especially for the large number of underachieving kids from both our parts of town. We also would not have this money applied correctly if not for the Libs had not created mere hell at Ofsted. UKIP is just starting to make an impression in County Scrutiny, Libdems have been batting there, virtually alone against the Mighty Blues for 20+ years. so lets doff the cap at them for this effort as well. I understand local politics and scraping for honours (right ot wrong), but the lets keep what they are doing in mind eh? Bajina
  • Score: -5

2:56pm Thu 30 Jan 14

ucantalk says...

Darren Hayday wrote:
Scarletto wrote:
Oh groan, don't look but here's our Councillor Hayday who has sympathy with UKIP (The UK Isolation Party) which has an assortment of odd bods often found propping up a bar and reading the Daily Mail or Dingbats' Monthly.
Some UKIP members are a paler shade of the BNP etc. and should be avoided either because they hold poisonous views or are seriously bewildered and on medication.
The Nazi Party started quietly in the 1920s and 30s calling for flag waving national pride (nothing wrong with that) but in the end it was jew etc. hating by saying they were at the root of national ills and exterminating them was for the best. Some UKIP members seem to blame immigrants for a lot and their councillor member in Henley, for instance, two weeks ago said the awful national floods and steady rain was because same sex marriages had been approved! A fine figure of an apparent deranged loony who wore his UKIP badge with pride. He also said he didn't like pet owners!! Say no more... Best to stick with the warts and all three main parties and possibly the Greens than follow the poisonous creed spouted by some UKIP operatives. They've cornered some of the red neck oaf voters and for the moment some nice people think UKIP sounds appealing. The fact is we're in Europe and should have our say into what happens in it in the same way as a US state is part of one proud nation.
Nige F seems a jolly fellow but we should all worry about the ragbag of signed up mutants who make up a percentage of UKIP membership. A corrosive to our national traditions and pride as we face the future with hope in our hearts. Anyway, enough said ...I must return to my fireside, pipe, slippers and Tarquin, my cat.
So says Cllr Julia Wazzel - the Libdem member hiding under the name 'Scarletto', i guess that it relates to the colour 'red' when she was last a die-hard Labour card carrying member - who likes jumping ship each time that it looks likely that she will not get re-elected in her part of the world. Saint Julia speaks with her usual anti right rhetoric, to stir things up! :op
Hayday, is this what you always do, hide behind your keyboard writing utter crap as you never seem to be vocal anywhere else!

Like a little schoolboy moaning to the teacher, oi miss look Julia is hiding as Scarletto and Lim Dem agent is hiding as Yog. Get a life a Darren.

Brian Pearce is good man but at the same time a very confused man just like the leader of his party. Not knowing what they actually stand by producing a full of crap manifesto and then ripping it up. My suggestion to you Hayday is to join Brian and hope for the best as you certainly ain't getting voted back into WDC.......
[quote][p][bold]Darren Hayday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarletto[/bold] wrote: Oh groan, don't look but here's our Councillor Hayday who has sympathy with UKIP (The UK Isolation Party) which has an assortment of odd bods often found propping up a bar and reading the Daily Mail or Dingbats' Monthly. Some UKIP members are a paler shade of the BNP etc. and should be avoided either because they hold poisonous views or are seriously bewildered and on medication. The Nazi Party started quietly in the 1920s and 30s calling for flag waving national pride (nothing wrong with that) but in the end it was jew etc. hating by saying they were at the root of national ills and exterminating them was for the best. Some UKIP members seem to blame immigrants for a lot and their councillor member in Henley, for instance, two weeks ago said the awful national floods and steady rain was because same sex marriages had been approved! A fine figure of an apparent deranged loony who wore his UKIP badge with pride. He also said he didn't like pet owners!! Say no more... Best to stick with the warts and all three main parties and possibly the Greens than follow the poisonous creed spouted by some UKIP operatives. They've cornered some of the red neck oaf voters and for the moment some nice people think UKIP sounds appealing. The fact is we're in Europe and should have our say into what happens in it in the same way as a US state is part of one proud nation. Nige F seems a jolly fellow but we should all worry about the ragbag of signed up mutants who make up a percentage of UKIP membership. A corrosive to our national traditions and pride as we face the future with hope in our hearts. Anyway, enough said ...I must return to my fireside, pipe, slippers and Tarquin, my cat.[/p][/quote]So says Cllr Julia Wazzel - the Libdem member hiding under the name 'Scarletto', i guess that it relates to the colour 'red' when she was last a die-hard Labour card carrying member - who likes jumping ship each time that it looks likely that she will not get re-elected in her part of the world. Saint Julia speaks with her usual anti right rhetoric, to stir things up! :op[/p][/quote]Hayday, is this what you always do, hide behind your keyboard writing utter crap as you never seem to be vocal anywhere else! Like a little schoolboy moaning to the teacher, oi miss look Julia is hiding as Scarletto and Lim Dem agent is hiding as Yog. Get a life a Darren. Brian Pearce is good man but at the same time a very confused man just like the leader of his party. Not knowing what they actually stand by producing a full of crap manifesto and then ripping it up. My suggestion to you Hayday is to join Brian and hope for the best as you certainly ain't getting voted back into WDC....... ucantalk
  • Score: -3

3:32pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Darren Hayday says...

ucantalk wrote:
Darren Hayday wrote:
Scarletto wrote:
Oh groan, don't look but here's our Councillor Hayday who has sympathy with UKIP (The UK Isolation Party) which has an assortment of odd bods often found propping up a bar and reading the Daily Mail or Dingbats' Monthly.
Some UKIP members are a paler shade of the BNP etc. and should be avoided either because they hold poisonous views or are seriously bewildered and on medication.
The Nazi Party started quietly in the 1920s and 30s calling for flag waving national pride (nothing wrong with that) but in the end it was jew etc. hating by saying they were at the root of national ills and exterminating them was for the best. Some UKIP members seem to blame immigrants for a lot and their councillor member in Henley, for instance, two weeks ago said the awful national floods and steady rain was because same sex marriages had been approved! A fine figure of an apparent deranged loony who wore his UKIP badge with pride. He also said he didn't like pet owners!! Say no more... Best to stick with the warts and all three main parties and possibly the Greens than follow the poisonous creed spouted by some UKIP operatives. They've cornered some of the red neck oaf voters and for the moment some nice people think UKIP sounds appealing. The fact is we're in Europe and should have our say into what happens in it in the same way as a US state is part of one proud nation.
Nige F seems a jolly fellow but we should all worry about the ragbag of signed up mutants who make up a percentage of UKIP membership. A corrosive to our national traditions and pride as we face the future with hope in our hearts. Anyway, enough said ...I must return to my fireside, pipe, slippers and Tarquin, my cat.
So says Cllr Julia Wazzel - the Libdem member hiding under the name 'Scarletto', i guess that it relates to the colour 'red' when she was last a die-hard Labour card carrying member - who likes jumping ship each time that it looks likely that she will not get re-elected in her part of the world. Saint Julia speaks with her usual anti right rhetoric, to stir things up! :op
Hayday, is this what you always do, hide behind your keyboard writing utter crap as you never seem to be vocal anywhere else!

Like a little schoolboy moaning to the teacher, oi miss look Julia is hiding as Scarletto and Lim Dem agent is hiding as Yog. Get a life a Darren.

Brian Pearce is good man but at the same time a very confused man just like the leader of his party. Not knowing what they actually stand by producing a full of crap manifesto and then ripping it up. My suggestion to you Hayday is to join Brian and hope for the best as you certainly ain't getting voted back into WDC.......
I never hide and I'm not sure where you got the idea from that I'm not vocal? I'm not known for holding back my views. They are both hiding and people need to know, they one is a current elected Councillor and the other is the party agent for a political party - they both hold views which people need to know about - they use not to write under their own name. I don’t share your view that Brian is a confused man, I've known him for many years now and confused is not a word that I would use to describe him. Perhaps I shall not get voted back into WDC - but I shall make even more effort to try even harder now that you have incentivised me to get back in. I’m fed up with listening to the constant drivel from the Libdems, they have gone from hero to zero in my eyes, they are the irrelevant party and I for one shall never vote for them again. I would rather vote for the Labour, UKIP or the Conservatives – if I had no choice on voting for an Independent.
[quote][p][bold]ucantalk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren Hayday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarletto[/bold] wrote: Oh groan, don't look but here's our Councillor Hayday who has sympathy with UKIP (The UK Isolation Party) which has an assortment of odd bods often found propping up a bar and reading the Daily Mail or Dingbats' Monthly. Some UKIP members are a paler shade of the BNP etc. and should be avoided either because they hold poisonous views or are seriously bewildered and on medication. The Nazi Party started quietly in the 1920s and 30s calling for flag waving national pride (nothing wrong with that) but in the end it was jew etc. hating by saying they were at the root of national ills and exterminating them was for the best. Some UKIP members seem to blame immigrants for a lot and their councillor member in Henley, for instance, two weeks ago said the awful national floods and steady rain was because same sex marriages had been approved! A fine figure of an apparent deranged loony who wore his UKIP badge with pride. He also said he didn't like pet owners!! Say no more... Best to stick with the warts and all three main parties and possibly the Greens than follow the poisonous creed spouted by some UKIP operatives. They've cornered some of the red neck oaf voters and for the moment some nice people think UKIP sounds appealing. The fact is we're in Europe and should have our say into what happens in it in the same way as a US state is part of one proud nation. Nige F seems a jolly fellow but we should all worry about the ragbag of signed up mutants who make up a percentage of UKIP membership. A corrosive to our national traditions and pride as we face the future with hope in our hearts. Anyway, enough said ...I must return to my fireside, pipe, slippers and Tarquin, my cat.[/p][/quote]So says Cllr Julia Wazzel - the Libdem member hiding under the name 'Scarletto', i guess that it relates to the colour 'red' when she was last a die-hard Labour card carrying member - who likes jumping ship each time that it looks likely that she will not get re-elected in her part of the world. Saint Julia speaks with her usual anti right rhetoric, to stir things up! :op[/p][/quote]Hayday, is this what you always do, hide behind your keyboard writing utter crap as you never seem to be vocal anywhere else! Like a little schoolboy moaning to the teacher, oi miss look Julia is hiding as Scarletto and Lim Dem agent is hiding as Yog. Get a life a Darren. Brian Pearce is good man but at the same time a very confused man just like the leader of his party. Not knowing what they actually stand by producing a full of crap manifesto and then ripping it up. My suggestion to you Hayday is to join Brian and hope for the best as you certainly ain't getting voted back into WDC.......[/p][/quote]I never hide and I'm not sure where you got the idea from that I'm not vocal? I'm not known for holding back my views. They are both hiding and people need to know, they one is a current elected Councillor and the other is the party agent for a political party - they both hold views which people need to know about - they use not to write under their own name. I don’t share your view that Brian is a confused man, I've known him for many years now and confused is not a word that I would use to describe him. Perhaps I shall not get voted back into WDC - but I shall make even more effort to try even harder now that you have incentivised me to get back in. I’m fed up with listening to the constant drivel from the Libdems, they have gone from hero to zero in my eyes, they are the irrelevant party and I for one shall never vote for them again. I would rather vote for the Labour, UKIP or the Conservatives – if I had no choice on voting for an Independent. Darren Hayday
  • Score: 3

4:20pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Scarletto says...

Oh boy, Darren you're going to eventually get Julia W after you.
You keep insisting that I am her. Honestly and truly - as I've said before - I'm definitely not. I've just checked... You've become a sort of haunted Captain Hook, worried about a crocodile who in this case doesn't exist. Or at least not as a crocodile! As you seem a sort of Private Pike, you're giving me a bit of pleasure though....
You might however be a little surprised to know who I am. Not a local politician but just someone who cares about Wycombe and is weary about politicians like you, who seem to be a bit soft, sometimes let voters down and flail around.
Also, carefully check your contributions for type etc. errors before you send.
Oh boy, Darren you're going to eventually get Julia W after you. You keep insisting that I am her. Honestly and truly - as I've said before - I'm definitely not. I've just checked... You've become a sort of haunted Captain Hook, worried about a crocodile who in this case doesn't exist. Or at least not as a crocodile! As you seem a sort of Private Pike, you're giving me a bit of pleasure though.... You might however be a little surprised to know who I am. Not a local politician but just someone who cares about Wycombe and is weary about politicians like you, who seem to be a bit soft, sometimes let voters down and flail around. Also, carefully check your contributions for type etc. errors before you send. Scarletto
  • Score: -3

12:27am Sat 1 Feb 14

jonjonjon123 says...

Mr Pearce , you lost fair & square .stop bickering on ! There 's always next year
Mr Pearce , you lost fair & square .stop bickering on ! There 's always next year jonjonjon123
  • Score: -2

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