Over two thirds of drivers clocked speeding at hotspot

Bucks Free Press: Over two thirds of drivers clocked speeding at hotspot Over two thirds of drivers clocked speeding at hotspot

A COMMUNITY safety group says its fears have been realised after figures from a new speed-activated sign revealed over two thirds of motorists driving above the limit at a Flackwell Heath hot spot.

The Hazlemere and Chepping Wycombe Neighbourhood Action Group (NAG) were instrumental in installing Moveable Vehicle Activated Sign (MVAS) in December.

And after stints at various locations across the area, statistics show 71 per cent of drivers on Blind Lane over the Christmas period were clocked travelling over 30mph by the automated sign.

David Onslow, vice chairman of the NAG and project manager for the MVAS, said: "The figures have come back for all of the sites, and the sign has proven its point and confirmed what we already thought, which is that a significant number of people are exceeding the speed limit.

"It’s not just one or two drivers, but a lot. We are trying to educate drivers, and a reduction of even a few miles an hour gives a much better chance of survival in an accident.

"Rather than fine drivers we prefer to use the MVAS as a means of slowing traffic down and educating them about the risks."

The MVAS sign flashes a warning at drivers when it clocks them travelling above the 30mph limit, but no fines are issued as a result.

It is rotated among 12 locations throughout Flackwell Heath, Tylers Green and Loudwater.

The system collects data for analysis, and while it does not record the actual speed, it groups vehicles into 5mph bands.

During its time at Blind Lane, just West of Little Close, between December 23 and January 14, 44,079 drivers passed the sensors, with 31,298 registering speeds above 30mph.

Discounting those in the 30-34mph bracket, 18,125 motorists, or 41 per cent, were clocked going 35 or over.

While the majority of speeders did not exceed 40mph, 156 drivers chose to drive above 50 and one topping out the study at between 65 and 69mph.

The sign’s first stint on Straight Bit revealed a similar story, with over a quarter of motorists breaking the limit. Thames Valley Police is working with NAG members to respond to the hotspot areas identified with the moveable signs.

Carol Richards, neighbourhood policing administrator, said: "We are working with the NAG to respond to results from the Movable Vehicle Activiated Road Sign.

"Data so far indicate that there are problems at some sites and the local neighborhood team are working with other departments and agencies to try and address these."

The MVAS cost £6,100 and was bought by Chepping Wycombe Parish Council, to be shared by Flackwell Heath, Loudwater and Tylers Green. It was officially unveiled in November.

The sign was funded by the parish council and the Local Community Partnership, which donated £3,500, with additional funds from the residents associations of Flackwell Heath, Penn and Tylers Green.

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6:05pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Agniesca says...

The critical statistic is what is the accident rate on this stretch of road, surely these devices should be deployed on roads where there are significant traffic accident
The critical statistic is what is the accident rate on this stretch of road, surely these devices should be deployed on roads where there are significant traffic accident Agniesca

8:48am Fri 7 Feb 14

PDplum says...

thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.

The law is 30mph therefore the camera's should be where most people are breaking the law..

The places with the most accidents should have their speed limits lowered
thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard. The law is 30mph therefore the camera's should be where most people are breaking the law.. The places with the most accidents should have their speed limits lowered PDplum

9:24am Fri 7 Feb 14

Ivor'sbestfriend says...

PDplum wrote:
thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.

The law is 30mph therefore the camera's should be where most people are breaking the law..

The places with the most accidents should have their speed limits lowered
Lots of accidents happen on roundabouts where the average speed is well below 30mph. Should the speed limit then be lowered to 10 mph?
[quote][p][bold]PDplum[/bold] wrote: thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard. The law is 30mph therefore the camera's should be where most people are breaking the law.. The places with the most accidents should have their speed limits lowered[/p][/quote]Lots of accidents happen on roundabouts where the average speed is well below 30mph. Should the speed limit then be lowered to 10 mph? Ivor'sbestfriend

10:48am Fri 7 Feb 14

Agniesca says...

We have seen speed limits raised on safe roads, eg Marlow Hill; should our first priority be safety?
We have seen speed limits raised on safe roads, eg Marlow Hill; should our first priority be safety? Agniesca

11:58am Fri 7 Feb 14

BucksComment says...

Blind Lane is a residential road with multiple footpaths and a playground. the maximum speed should be 30, preferably 20.

I saw the speed device when out walking with the family and can confirm that at least half of the cars that went over the (blind) hill were doing over the limit.

I know everyone who reads the BFP is a trained racing driver and can stop on a six pence but if I had my way, these devices would have a taser attached that delivered a short, sharp shock to every one of these irresponsible, selfish drivers.

Queue the down votes.....
Blind Lane is a residential road with multiple footpaths and a playground. the maximum speed should be 30, preferably 20. I saw the speed device when out walking with the family and can confirm that at least half of the cars that went over the (blind) hill were doing over the limit. I know everyone who reads the BFP is a trained racing driver and can stop on a six pence but if I had my way, these devices would have a taser attached that delivered a short, sharp shock to every one of these irresponsible, selfish drivers. Queue the down votes..... BucksComment

12:06pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Ivor'sbestfriend says...

BucksComment wrote:
Blind Lane is a residential road with multiple footpaths and a playground. the maximum speed should be 30, preferably 20.

I saw the speed device when out walking with the family and can confirm that at least half of the cars that went over the (blind) hill were doing over the limit.

I know everyone who reads the BFP is a trained racing driver and can stop on a six pence but if I had my way, these devices would have a taser attached that delivered a short, sharp shock to every one of these irresponsible, selfish drivers.

Queue the down votes.....
An excellent idea, then the driver would lose control of their vehicle and crash into said footpath/playground.
[quote][p][bold]BucksComment[/bold] wrote: Blind Lane is a residential road with multiple footpaths and a playground. the maximum speed should be 30, preferably 20. I saw the speed device when out walking with the family and can confirm that at least half of the cars that went over the (blind) hill were doing over the limit. I know everyone who reads the BFP is a trained racing driver and can stop on a six pence but if I had my way, these devices would have a taser attached that delivered a short, sharp shock to every one of these irresponsible, selfish drivers. Queue the down votes.....[/p][/quote]An excellent idea, then the driver would lose control of their vehicle and crash into said footpath/playground. Ivor'sbestfriend

12:08pm Fri 7 Feb 14

BucksComment says...

Ivor'sbestfriend wrote:
BucksComment wrote:
Blind Lane is a residential road with multiple footpaths and a playground. the maximum speed should be 30, preferably 20.

I saw the speed device when out walking with the family and can confirm that at least half of the cars that went over the (blind) hill were doing over the limit.

I know everyone who reads the BFP is a trained racing driver and can stop on a six pence but if I had my way, these devices would have a taser attached that delivered a short, sharp shock to every one of these irresponsible, selfish drivers.

Queue the down votes.....
An excellent idea, then the driver would lose control of their vehicle and crash into said footpath/playground.
Idiot
[quote][p][bold]Ivor'sbestfriend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BucksComment[/bold] wrote: Blind Lane is a residential road with multiple footpaths and a playground. the maximum speed should be 30, preferably 20. I saw the speed device when out walking with the family and can confirm that at least half of the cars that went over the (blind) hill were doing over the limit. I know everyone who reads the BFP is a trained racing driver and can stop on a six pence but if I had my way, these devices would have a taser attached that delivered a short, sharp shock to every one of these irresponsible, selfish drivers. Queue the down votes.....[/p][/quote]An excellent idea, then the driver would lose control of their vehicle and crash into said footpath/playground.[/p][/quote]Idiot BucksComment

6:49pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Minority Report says...

Who on the blog has never, ever broken the speed limit? Are the speed limits correct? Are they to high ? Are they too low? Are vehicles safe now or more dangerous? Do pedestrians, children and cyclist respect the road as much as they use too? What happened to the public information ads? the green cross man, cluck-click, the ice-cream van and school bus information ads? Do the government still regard road safety as highly as they once did? The car
I learnt to drive in had no, power assisted brakes, no power steering, no anti-lock brakes. Modern tyres are such an improvement on tyres just a couple of decades ago. Yes everybody should respect the speed limits, but many have come down while road safety has improved. May I suggest that some, possibly councils and planers, prefer restricted to have restricted speeds because the speed limit sign often define the beginning and ends of say a village. Once this boundary has been established, house could possibly be built within this defined boundary, which once build upon leads to restricted area being extended, with more houses being built, until we don't has individual villages with has a town with no identity. For instance Hazlemere, Holmer green, Widmer end, Tyler green, Penn, Terriers it just goes on a on. Lower speed limits may also mean less road maintenance, the lower the speed the less critical the surface. A car couldn't travel at 70 mph on a potholed motorway. Often cars can't travel at 30mph on normal roads. In the interests of road safety, the state of our roads must play an important factor. due to a puddle submerged pothole I suffered an immediate front wheel deflation travelling at 20mph. An event that you are likely to lose control, even at 20mph! Are we looking in the right areas to improve road safety or is there another agenda being fought, to build on every bit of land around that is being disguised as road safety! What do you think?
Who on the blog has never, ever broken the speed limit? Are the speed limits correct? Are they to high ? Are they too low? Are vehicles safe now or more dangerous? Do pedestrians, children and cyclist respect the road as much as they use too? What happened to the public information ads? the green cross man, cluck-click, the ice-cream van and school bus information ads? Do the government still regard road safety as highly as they once did? The car I learnt to drive in had no, power assisted brakes, no power steering, no anti-lock brakes. Modern tyres are such an improvement on tyres just a couple of decades ago. Yes everybody should respect the speed limits, but many have come down while road safety has improved. May I suggest that some, possibly councils and planers, prefer restricted to have restricted speeds because the speed limit sign often define the beginning and ends of say a village. Once this boundary has been established, house could possibly be built within this defined boundary, which once build upon leads to restricted area being extended, with more houses being built, until we don't has individual villages with has a town with no identity. For instance Hazlemere, Holmer green, Widmer end, Tyler green, Penn, Terriers it just goes on a on. Lower speed limits may also mean less road maintenance, the lower the speed the less critical the surface. A car couldn't travel at 70 mph on a potholed motorway. Often cars can't travel at 30mph on normal roads. In the interests of road safety, the state of our roads must play an important factor. due to a puddle submerged pothole I suffered an immediate front wheel deflation travelling at 20mph. An event that you are likely to lose control, even at 20mph! Are we looking in the right areas to improve road safety or is there another agenda being fought, to build on every bit of land around that is being disguised as road safety! What do you think? Minority Report

8:48pm Fri 7 Feb 14

eureka19 says...

Just confirms what everybody already knows. Most motorists ignore speed limits. Stop wasting money on these pointless exercises, use the money to get a real bobby with a camera.
Just confirms what everybody already knows. Most motorists ignore speed limits. Stop wasting money on these pointless exercises, use the money to get a real bobby with a camera. eureka19

10:33am Mon 10 Feb 14

Scarletto says...

Simply best not to exceed limits so you avoid fines, people are safer and less public money wasted.
Simply best not to exceed limits so you avoid fines, people are safer and less public money wasted. Scarletto

3:46pm Tue 11 Feb 14

BucksComment says...

Scarletto wrote:
Simply best not to exceed limits so you avoid fines, people are safer and less public money wasted.
That is dangerous, communist talk. Expect the down voters to get you! Everyone knows all BFP drivers are so good that they are more than capable of driving over the speed limit with no risk to children or pets
[quote][p][bold]Scarletto[/bold] wrote: Simply best not to exceed limits so you avoid fines, people are safer and less public money wasted.[/p][/quote]That is dangerous, communist talk. Expect the down voters to get you! Everyone knows all BFP drivers are so good that they are more than capable of driving over the speed limit with no risk to children or pets BucksComment

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