Man stages Wycombe rooftop appeal for help to find a home

Man stages Wycombe rooftop appeal for help to find a home

Man stages Wycombe rooftop appeal for help to find a home

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A HOMELESS man climbed to the roof of the Old Town Hall and hung a banner pleading for someone to help him find a home.

Peter Barnes told the BFP he hung the ‘home me’ banner after scaling the scaffolding at the front of the historic building out of “desperation”.

Police closed off Queen Victoria Road at 6.45am this morning as officers convinced the 53-year-old to come down from his rooftop appeal.

Mr Barnes said: “I went up there out of pure desperation, someone has to listen to me and help me find somewhere to live.

“All I want to do is find a house and get back on with my life.”

Mr Barnes, who has been living in his car since September, said he hoped officers arriving at Wycombe District Council’s HQ opposite the Old Town Hall would see his plea and help to put a roof over his head.

He also believed it was the only way police would take seriously his claims that he had been defrauded of £900 - money he had hoped to put towards a place to live.

Mr Barnes said he had saved up the cash during a 28 night stay at the Wycombe Homeless Connection in January.

He said “I was aiming the banner at the council as they do not seem to think they have a reason to house me. I’m born and bred in High Wycombe and I’ve always paid my bills but I can’t get a house.

“I need to get my money back as £900 is a month’s rent, food and enough to keep my car running for work. The police were great - I surrendered without any problems but I thought this was the only way.

“You need a big deposit for a place so I’m desperate to find a landlord who will accept just rent but there aren’t many about – it would be fantastic if I could find one as it would be the end to all my problems.”

Officers said they closed Queen Victoria Road at 6.45am and a man climbed down from the roof of the town hall – which is undergoing a revamp – at about 7.03am. He was not arrested.

Police also confirmed it was investigating the fraud allegations Mr Barnes has made against another party.

In a statement WDC said: "We’ve been working with Mr Barnes to give housing advice and assistance, after he contacted us earlier this year. 

"We are sympathetic to his situation, but from what he told us about his circumstances he was not assessed as being in urgent, priority need of housing under the homelessness legislation.

"We understand that Mr Barnes has a preference for social housing, rather than private rented accommodation, which will take longer to become available.

"If Mr Barnes’ circumstances have changed, we would urge him to contact us so that we can refer him to the connection outreach service, which will explain the housing options available."

The council said it appreciated Mr Barnes was making a statement with his stunt but "strongly discouraged anyone else from doing so for safety reasons."

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5:45pm Fri 25 Apr 14

yog says...

Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent???

Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.
Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent??? Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer. yog
  • Score: 23

5:48pm Fri 25 Apr 14

mother henpeck says...

lets all jump on the band wagon shall we!!!!!!!!!!
lets all jump on the band wagon shall we!!!!!!!!!! mother henpeck
  • Score: -14

8:02pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Clown4fun.co.uk says...

Wycombe Council is hopeless when it comes to helping people in need. I know that from my own experience. some people who work there are just a waste of space and taxpayers money. They had failed me and my son recently and if it wasn't for help of Wycombe Homeless Connection I would be on the street. It is a joke what they do there. They forgetting that the only reason to work there is to help people in need, to serve and not to destroy lives. I have ZERO respect for heartless bureaucrats there. law is one thing but having a heart and compassion is another. they lack the last one altogether. I have proof of it. Wycombe Homeless Connection deserve peoples support and funding, as they help people who were abandoned and failed by the Wycombe District Jobsworths.
Wycombe Council is hopeless when it comes to helping people in need. I know that from my own experience. some people who work there are just a waste of space and taxpayers money. They had failed me and my son recently and if it wasn't for help of Wycombe Homeless Connection I would be on the street. It is a joke what they do there. They forgetting that the only reason to work there is to help people in need, to serve and not to destroy lives. I have ZERO respect for heartless bureaucrats there. law is one thing but having a heart and compassion is another. they lack the last one altogether. I have proof of it. Wycombe Homeless Connection deserve peoples support and funding, as they help people who were abandoned and failed by the Wycombe District Jobsworths. Clown4fun.co.uk
  • Score: 20

8:19pm Fri 25 Apr 14

niggy1664 says...

I agree with clown4fun. myself and family was evicted from our home , due to Land Lord going into receivership. WDC did nothing to help us, they hid behind legal Jargon, the housing officer would avoid calls, and deny being in office. They would deny receiving documentation although we had receipts, and would have seen us on the street, or forced into BB in slough. This would have destroyed our childrens education, which they said is not there fault, well being homeless wasnt ours.
I agree with clown4fun. myself and family was evicted from our home , due to Land Lord going into receivership. WDC did nothing to help us, they hid behind legal Jargon, the housing officer would avoid calls, and deny being in office. They would deny receiving documentation although we had receipts, and would have seen us on the street, or forced into BB in slough. This would have destroyed our childrens education, which they said is not there fault, well being homeless wasnt ours. niggy1664
  • Score: 20

8:54pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Clown4fun.co.uk says...

niggy1664 wrote:
I agree with clown4fun. myself and family was evicted from our home , due to Land Lord going into receivership. WDC did nothing to help us, they hid behind legal Jargon, the housing officer would avoid calls, and deny being in office. They would deny receiving documentation although we had receipts, and would have seen us on the street, or forced into BB in slough. This would have destroyed our childrens education, which they said is not there fault, well being homeless wasnt ours.
So I am not the only one who suffered from Wycombe District Jobsworth Club. In my situation all I was asking these "waste-of-space-jobs
worths" for help with the deposit, so I could move in, and start living normally. By refusing help, the above mentioned Club of Jobsworth, had saved themselves some pounds and almost destroyed my life. Shame on you. I told one of the main Jobsworth's on the phone "I hope you can look yourself in the mirror after failing me as a single father". If he will read it, he knows whom I talking about.

Kind of feel if there is a way to get all those people who were abandoned by the WDC and sue them for emotional damages. And I am not talking about finding a way to milk the system, but a way to hit them back, and made them really pay for the damages they do to others. The trauma of feeling hopeless, abandoned, can't be translated to money. It is an horrible experience. It is a life destroying force.

There are some individuals that work for the WDC who are fantastic people, like personel of Saunderto Lodge, where I stayed. Great and helpful! but the managers of WDC? WASTE OF SPACE!!!!
[quote][p][bold]niggy1664[/bold] wrote: I agree with clown4fun. myself and family was evicted from our home , due to Land Lord going into receivership. WDC did nothing to help us, they hid behind legal Jargon, the housing officer would avoid calls, and deny being in office. They would deny receiving documentation although we had receipts, and would have seen us on the street, or forced into BB in slough. This would have destroyed our childrens education, which they said is not there fault, well being homeless wasnt ours.[/p][/quote]So I am not the only one who suffered from Wycombe District Jobsworth Club. In my situation all I was asking these "waste-of-space-jobs worths" for help with the deposit, so I could move in, and start living normally. By refusing help, the above mentioned Club of Jobsworth, had saved themselves some pounds and almost destroyed my life. Shame on you. I told one of the main Jobsworth's on the phone "I hope you can look yourself in the mirror after failing me as a single father". If he will read it, he knows whom I talking about. Kind of feel if there is a way to get all those people who were abandoned by the WDC and sue them for emotional damages. And I am not talking about finding a way to milk the system, but a way to hit them back, and made them really pay for the damages they do to others. The trauma of feeling hopeless, abandoned, can't be translated to money. It is an horrible experience. It is a life destroying force. There are some individuals that work for the WDC who are fantastic people, like personel of Saunderto Lodge, where I stayed. Great and helpful! but the managers of WDC? WASTE OF SPACE!!!! Clown4fun.co.uk
  • Score: 14

10:15pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Lara B says...

What a very sad and desperate situation for this poor man. How can we be letting this happen. Every single person is important that has contributed to our society in a positive way.
What the hell is happening when people are living in their cars!
I am sick of hearing about these people that are just abandoned.
Does anyone want to help me to sort this man out with some sort of housing. Not sure how it can be done but true believer that if you try hard enough anything can be achieved and the more people behind this then the better.
Shame on you Wycombe District Council.
How can you sleep in your cosy warm bed at night knowing this poor man is living in his car.
Absolutely disgusting!
What a very sad and desperate situation for this poor man. How can we be letting this happen. Every single person is important that has contributed to our society in a positive way. What the hell is happening when people are living in their cars! I am sick of hearing about these people that are just abandoned. Does anyone want to help me to sort this man out with some sort of housing. Not sure how it can be done but true believer that if you try hard enough anything can be achieved and the more people behind this then the better. Shame on you Wycombe District Council. How can you sleep in your cosy warm bed at night knowing this poor man is living in his car. Absolutely disgusting! Lara B
  • Score: 22

12:12am Sat 26 Apr 14

Clown4fun.co.uk says...

Lara B wrote:
What a very sad and desperate situation for this poor man. How can we be letting this happen. Every single person is important that has contributed to our society in a positive way.
What the hell is happening when people are living in their cars!
I am sick of hearing about these people that are just abandoned.
Does anyone want to help me to sort this man out with some sort of housing. Not sure how it can be done but true believer that if you try hard enough anything can be achieved and the more people behind this then the better.
Shame on you Wycombe District Council.
How can you sleep in your cosy warm bed at night knowing this poor man is living in his car.
Absolutely disgusting!
interesting quote from Wycombe District Jobsworth Club: In a statement WDC said: "We’ve been working with Mr Barnes to give housing advice and assistance, after he contacted us earlier this year.

"We are sympathetic to his situation, but from what he told us about his circumstances he was not assessed as being in urgent, priority need of housing under the homelessness legislation.

They have a laught about being sympathetic .... what a sickening joke. If they are sorry for the man, then how "much" sorry do they feel for him? a £500 worth of sorry? or £1000 worth of sorry? he said, that this amount would help him out. I have an idea, how about the disustingly useless folks in the WDC have their pay cheque reduction for failing citizens, and the problem is solved!!! here is the money!!! instead of being paid big fat salaries for sitting on their butts and doing harm, the money could help that poor man, or could go to help me and my son in our difficult situation, or that single mother with three months old baby that was refused help by WDC (true story - heard about it from Wycombe Homeless Connection people) and it would solve the problems. Too bad we can't give them Vote of No Confidence and get some more reasonable people in WDC..
[quote][p][bold]Lara B[/bold] wrote: What a very sad and desperate situation for this poor man. How can we be letting this happen. Every single person is important that has contributed to our society in a positive way. What the hell is happening when people are living in their cars! I am sick of hearing about these people that are just abandoned. Does anyone want to help me to sort this man out with some sort of housing. Not sure how it can be done but true believer that if you try hard enough anything can be achieved and the more people behind this then the better. Shame on you Wycombe District Council. How can you sleep in your cosy warm bed at night knowing this poor man is living in his car. Absolutely disgusting![/p][/quote]interesting quote from Wycombe District Jobsworth Club: In a statement WDC said: "We’ve been working with Mr Barnes to give housing advice and assistance, after he contacted us earlier this year. "We are sympathetic to his situation, but from what he told us about his circumstances he was not assessed as being in urgent, priority need of housing under the homelessness legislation. They have a laught about being sympathetic .... what a sickening joke. If they are sorry for the man, then how "much" sorry do they feel for him? a £500 worth of sorry? or £1000 worth of sorry? he said, that this amount would help him out. I have an idea, how about the disustingly useless folks in the WDC have their pay cheque reduction for failing citizens, and the problem is solved!!! here is the money!!! instead of being paid big fat salaries for sitting on their butts and doing harm, the money could help that poor man, or could go to help me and my son in our difficult situation, or that single mother with three months old baby that was refused help by WDC (true story - heard about it from Wycombe Homeless Connection people) and it would solve the problems. Too bad we can't give them Vote of No Confidence and get some more reasonable people in WDC.. Clown4fun.co.uk
  • Score: 8

6:55am Sat 26 Apr 14

MunsterX says...

So many at WDC know they have a job for life if they simply continue to play the game. Unfortunately in a tough economic climate, self preservation comes top of the list for most and the men and women of WDC will do all they can to please their boss. Most of us would do the same, there is a tendency for all of us to want the best for ourselves and our families before others.
There does seem to be a lack of control here over basic resources. All of the councils in the UK should be able to feedback problems in housing availability to central government who can then action a plan to manage the bottleneck.
A political party that banned the ownership of property in the UK by those not living and working in our country, who managed more carefully the availability of housing in our country by intelligently interpreting data from around the country, who demanded that housebuilders build correctly sized family homes at 2000sqft on a decent sized plot at a meaningful price (instead of consumer-rape by the housebuilding cartel), would have all our votes in the bag I am sure.
So many at WDC know they have a job for life if they simply continue to play the game. Unfortunately in a tough economic climate, self preservation comes top of the list for most and the men and women of WDC will do all they can to please their boss. Most of us would do the same, there is a tendency for all of us to want the best for ourselves and our families before others. There does seem to be a lack of control here over basic resources. All of the councils in the UK should be able to feedback problems in housing availability to central government who can then action a plan to manage the bottleneck. A political party that banned the ownership of property in the UK by those not living and working in our country, who managed more carefully the availability of housing in our country by intelligently interpreting data from around the country, who demanded that housebuilders build correctly sized family homes at 2000sqft on a decent sized plot at a meaningful price (instead of consumer-rape by the housebuilding cartel), would have all our votes in the bag I am sure. MunsterX
  • Score: 6

8:20am Sat 26 Apr 14

TanTan957 says...

Lara B wrote:
What a very sad and desperate situation for this poor man. How can we be letting this happen. Every single person is important that has contributed to our society in a positive way.
What the hell is happening when people are living in their cars!
I am sick of hearing about these people that are just abandoned.
Does anyone want to help me to sort this man out with some sort of housing. Not sure how it can be done but true believer that if you try hard enough anything can be achieved and the more people behind this then the better.
Shame on you Wycombe District Council.
How can you sleep in your cosy warm bed at night knowing this poor man is living in his car.
Absolutely disgusting!
I cant offer much but I would donate something towards a deposit. Every little helps.
[quote][p][bold]Lara B[/bold] wrote: What a very sad and desperate situation for this poor man. How can we be letting this happen. Every single person is important that has contributed to our society in a positive way. What the hell is happening when people are living in their cars! I am sick of hearing about these people that are just abandoned. Does anyone want to help me to sort this man out with some sort of housing. Not sure how it can be done but true believer that if you try hard enough anything can be achieved and the more people behind this then the better. Shame on you Wycombe District Council. How can you sleep in your cosy warm bed at night knowing this poor man is living in his car. Absolutely disgusting![/p][/quote]I cant offer much but I would donate something towards a deposit. Every little helps. TanTan957
  • Score: 5

8:39am Sat 26 Apr 14

Ozzie71 says...

It's very easy to slag off WDC and it's workers but they will only be working within the constraints of the law. Unfortunately, there is a huge shortage of social housing and it is therefore very difficult to get these days. The gentleman in the article will not qualify for emergency housing but would have been given advice and support to secure accommodation, some people however, only want to get a council house. The staff at WDC are never allowed to respond or defend themselves so you will only ever hear one side of the story. That said, they should never make people feel like people have mentioned on here, even if they are unable to help, they should always treat people with compassion and respect.
It's very easy to slag off WDC and it's workers but they will only be working within the constraints of the law. Unfortunately, there is a huge shortage of social housing and it is therefore very difficult to get these days. The gentleman in the article will not qualify for emergency housing but would have been given advice and support to secure accommodation, some people however, only want to get a council house. The staff at WDC are never allowed to respond or defend themselves so you will only ever hear one side of the story. That said, they should never make people feel like people have mentioned on here, even if they are unable to help, they should always treat people with compassion and respect. Ozzie71
  • Score: 13

10:17am Sat 26 Apr 14

wycswan says...

Ozzie71 wrote:
It's very easy to slag off WDC and it's workers but they will only be working within the constraints of the law. Unfortunately, there is a huge shortage of social housing and it is therefore very difficult to get these days. The gentleman in the article will not qualify for emergency housing but would have been given advice and support to secure accommodation, some people however, only want to get a council house. The staff at WDC are never allowed to respond or defend themselves so you will only ever hear one side of the story. That said, they should never make people feel like people have mentioned on here, even if they are unable to help, they should always treat people with compassion and respect.
Sorry Ozzie, it's not as simple as you think. While not wanting to put down people at WDC the situation/ system has become almost unworkable and whilst some staff try to be as sympathetic and helpful as they can in the situation there are those that aren't.
This article is talking about a mild mannered man who has been driven to desperation and although I'm not prepared to divulge more than the article states I can assure you that he has tried to help himself and through the proper channels.
[quote][p][bold]Ozzie71[/bold] wrote: It's very easy to slag off WDC and it's workers but they will only be working within the constraints of the law. Unfortunately, there is a huge shortage of social housing and it is therefore very difficult to get these days. The gentleman in the article will not qualify for emergency housing but would have been given advice and support to secure accommodation, some people however, only want to get a council house. The staff at WDC are never allowed to respond or defend themselves so you will only ever hear one side of the story. That said, they should never make people feel like people have mentioned on here, even if they are unable to help, they should always treat people with compassion and respect.[/p][/quote]Sorry Ozzie, it's not as simple as you think. While not wanting to put down people at WDC the situation/ system has become almost unworkable and whilst some staff try to be as sympathetic and helpful as they can in the situation there are those that aren't. This article is talking about a mild mannered man who has been driven to desperation and although I'm not prepared to divulge more than the article states I can assure you that he has tried to help himself and through the proper channels. wycswan
  • Score: 8

10:33am Sat 26 Apr 14

Ozzie71 says...

If there are people there who are not doing their jobs properly then put in a complaint, you will always get some people who abuse their positions. Maybe you know this particular man and maybe he is completely genuine but he is not the first to try this sort of thing to get attention and often, if you know the full story, WDC aren't quite the ogres that they are made out to be. As you say, the system is not working; it is a sad state of affairs when a Country as affluent as England cannot protect it's most vulnerable.
If there are people there who are not doing their jobs properly then put in a complaint, you will always get some people who abuse their positions. Maybe you know this particular man and maybe he is completely genuine but he is not the first to try this sort of thing to get attention and often, if you know the full story, WDC aren't quite the ogres that they are made out to be. As you say, the system is not working; it is a sad state of affairs when a Country as affluent as England cannot protect it's most vulnerable. Ozzie71
  • Score: 10

12:23pm Sat 26 Apr 14

MOCOB says...

I find much of the comment here laughable. Sorry folks but you get what you pay for. Public services in this country are run on a shoestring because governments know that the only way to get elected and then stay in power is to cut taxes. Without public finances then those who need social support end up without. That is why we see the likes of the Daily Mail vilifying benefit claimants, programmes like Benefit Street and benefit sanctions. This area regularly returns Tory councillors and a Tory MP. If you want to help this man and others in similar situations start voting for those who promise to retain the social safety net that this country should be proud to have and accept our responsibility to pay towards that through increased taxation.
I find much of the comment here laughable. Sorry folks but you get what you pay for. Public services in this country are run on a shoestring because governments know that the only way to get elected and then stay in power is to cut taxes. Without public finances then those who need social support end up without. That is why we see the likes of the Daily Mail vilifying benefit claimants, programmes like Benefit Street and benefit sanctions. This area regularly returns Tory councillors and a Tory MP. If you want to help this man and others in similar situations start voting for those who promise to retain the social safety net that this country should be proud to have and accept our responsibility to pay towards that through increased taxation. MOCOB
  • Score: 6

2:02pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Clown4fun.co.uk says...

Ozzie71 wrote:
It's very easy to slag off WDC and it's workers but they will only be working within the constraints of the law. Unfortunately, there is a huge shortage of social housing and it is therefore very difficult to get these days. The gentleman in the article will not qualify for emergency housing but would have been given advice and support to secure accommodation, some people however, only want to get a council house. The staff at WDC are never allowed to respond or defend themselves so you will only ever hear one side of the story. That said, they should never make people feel like people have mentioned on here, even if they are unable to help, they should always treat people with compassion and respect.
I don't agree with you Ozzie. I learned from my lawyer and some other charities, that the WDC has a discretionary powers to change some of the aspects of their decisions or to gran help beyond confines of the "law", without breaking it. And if they refusing help then that speaks very poorly on them. Even my lawyer said that the WDC decision in my case was wrong. I even went to see local MP Steven Bakers case worker, and they were trying to help me.
When I found out that I have a 50% of chances in court to challenge WDC decision, and that my legal aid would not be granted in my case, I begged with the WDC housing officer in charge, to give me some more time before being evicted from the hostel, or to help me with the emergency deposit for the flat in private sector, etc. the list goes on and on. I was told flatly NO! and they could help. and I wasn't even asking for a social housing in my situation as a single dad. My problem, was not having enough money for deposit and rent in advance. I asked them if that could be lended to me and then deducted from the Housing Benefit that I was receiving. the answer was NO! so I can honestly say that it is very esasy for me to slag off the WDC. because they had failed me. You can't pay your bills or rent with "good advice" from WDC. you need cash. as I said earlier, cut their salaries to the National Minimal Wage and you will have money for this poor man who staged a protest. I was very desperate myself to think that maybe I should do something like him. So here are the cuts to WDC that I suggest.
[quote][p][bold]Ozzie71[/bold] wrote: It's very easy to slag off WDC and it's workers but they will only be working within the constraints of the law. Unfortunately, there is a huge shortage of social housing and it is therefore very difficult to get these days. The gentleman in the article will not qualify for emergency housing but would have been given advice and support to secure accommodation, some people however, only want to get a council house. The staff at WDC are never allowed to respond or defend themselves so you will only ever hear one side of the story. That said, they should never make people feel like people have mentioned on here, even if they are unable to help, they should always treat people with compassion and respect.[/p][/quote]I don't agree with you Ozzie. I learned from my lawyer and some other charities, that the WDC has a discretionary powers to change some of the aspects of their decisions or to gran help beyond confines of the "law", without breaking it. And if they refusing help then that speaks very poorly on them. Even my lawyer said that the WDC decision in my case was wrong. I even went to see local MP Steven Bakers case worker, and they were trying to help me. When I found out that I have a 50% of chances in court to challenge WDC decision, and that my legal aid would not be granted in my case, I begged with the WDC housing officer in charge, to give me some more time before being evicted from the hostel, or to help me with the emergency deposit for the flat in private sector, etc. the list goes on and on. I was told flatly NO! and they could help. and I wasn't even asking for a social housing in my situation as a single dad. My problem, was not having enough money for deposit and rent in advance. I asked them if that could be lended to me and then deducted from the Housing Benefit that I was receiving. the answer was NO! so I can honestly say that it is very esasy for me to slag off the WDC. because they had failed me. You can't pay your bills or rent with "good advice" from WDC. you need cash. as I said earlier, cut their salaries to the National Minimal Wage and you will have money for this poor man who staged a protest. I was very desperate myself to think that maybe I should do something like him. So here are the cuts to WDC that I suggest. Clown4fun.co.uk
  • Score: -2

2:35pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Marcus Khalil says...

yog wrote:
Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent???

Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.
Here we go again, Julia Wassell going on about Labour and Tories selling off the housing stock. It was the Wycombe Labour group leader that opposed it - in case you forgotten! Oh by the way. a person that has switched more parties than I have had hot dinners is a fine person to talk. You have run out parties to switch to as it seems the Lib Dems are fed of you too!
[quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent??? Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.[/p][/quote]Here we go again, Julia Wassell going on about Labour and Tories selling off the housing stock. It was the Wycombe Labour group leader that opposed it - in case you forgotten! Oh by the way. a person that has switched more parties than I have had hot dinners is a fine person to talk. You have run out parties to switch to as it seems the Lib Dems are fed of you too! Marcus Khalil
  • Score: 7

4:40pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Peter Cyprus says...

I wonder how many houses are occupied by immigrants?
I wonder how many houses are occupied by immigrants? Peter Cyprus
  • Score: 15

10:07am Sun 27 Apr 14

Ozzie71 says...

Peter Cyprus wrote:
I wonder how many houses are occupied by immigrants?
What a pathetic and disgusting comment which helps no one. Comments like that just shows your ignorance and small mindedness.
[quote][p][bold]Peter Cyprus[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many houses are occupied by immigrants?[/p][/quote]What a pathetic and disgusting comment which helps no one. Comments like that just shows your ignorance and small mindedness. Ozzie71
  • Score: -7

10:23am Sun 27 Apr 14

Ozzie71 says...

You don't have to agree with me Clown4fun but the law is the law and they have to try to share out the small amount of social housing available between hundreds of people who all think they deserve/need it most. I understand you have obviously had some issues yourself and therefore this is personal to you. However, if you are parent with dependent children and you were homeless, through no fault of your own, the local authority have a duty to house you. If they decided they didn't have a duty to house you you can appeal that decision. Legal aid funding has been cut significantly, making it harder to challenge this in court but there are still plenty of voluntary agencies that would assist you if you have a case. If you don't fit the criteria then, unfortunately they will only assist you with advice but they obviously housed you temporarily so would have had to go to court to evict you - saving you the cost of getting it into court. I am surprised that they or the rent deposit scheme wasn't able to help you with a deposit but obviously don't know your circumstances. There should be a system where people can access money for a deposit as this is one of the major stumbling blocks when trying to access private rented accommodation.

My point is that constantly slagging off the people (some good and some bad) who are trying to work this crazy system is not the best way to change it.
You don't have to agree with me Clown4fun but the law is the law and they have to try to share out the small amount of social housing available between hundreds of people who all think they deserve/need it most. I understand you have obviously had some issues yourself and therefore this is personal to you. However, if you are parent with dependent children and you were homeless, through no fault of your own, the local authority have a duty to house you. If they decided they didn't have a duty to house you you can appeal that decision. Legal aid funding has been cut significantly, making it harder to challenge this in court but there are still plenty of voluntary agencies that would assist you if you have a case. If you don't fit the criteria then, unfortunately they will only assist you with advice but they obviously housed you temporarily so would have had to go to court to evict you - saving you the cost of getting it into court. I am surprised that they or the rent deposit scheme wasn't able to help you with a deposit but obviously don't know your circumstances. There should be a system where people can access money for a deposit as this is one of the major stumbling blocks when trying to access private rented accommodation. My point is that constantly slagging off the people (some good and some bad) who are trying to work this crazy system is not the best way to change it. Ozzie71
  • Score: 6

10:27am Sun 27 Apr 14

townraider says...

The issue is the ruling WDC party is Tories who could do more to help homeless and those in need -- they would rather spend money on pet projects like Handycross refit
They have sold off the council homes to housing associations and washed their hands of housing issues
They have no real plans to deliver the 7000 affordable and social housing home we need today

The issue is the opposition councillors are overruled by the Tory majority when they ask for more social housing now !!
Im afraid the Tory Nasty party continues to live up to its name in High Wycombe
The issue is the ruling WDC party is Tories who could do more to help homeless and those in need -- they would rather spend money on pet projects like Handycross refit They have sold off the council homes to housing associations and washed their hands of housing issues They have no real plans to deliver the 7000 affordable and social housing home we need today The issue is the opposition councillors are overruled by the Tory majority when they ask for more social housing now !! Im afraid the Tory Nasty party continues to live up to its name in High Wycombe townraider
  • Score: 5

3:23pm Sun 27 Apr 14

yog says...

Marcus Khalil wrote:
yog wrote:
Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent???

Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.
Here we go again, Julia Wassell going on about Labour and Tories selling off the housing stock. It was the Wycombe Labour group leader that opposed it - in case you forgotten! Oh by the way. a person that has switched more parties than I have had hot dinners is a fine person to talk. You have run out parties to switch to as it seems the Lib Dems are fed of you too!
It was the Wycombe Labour leader who signed the letter with the Tory leader which went to residents promoting the sell off. The Lib Dem leader at the time refused to sign.
How many traditional Labour voters voted for the sell off because Labour were supporting it?
Considering how close the result was I would suggest that the willingness of Labour to sell out was a key factor.
You can't change history Khalil.
[quote][p][bold]Marcus Khalil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent??? Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.[/p][/quote]Here we go again, Julia Wassell going on about Labour and Tories selling off the housing stock. It was the Wycombe Labour group leader that opposed it - in case you forgotten! Oh by the way. a person that has switched more parties than I have had hot dinners is a fine person to talk. You have run out parties to switch to as it seems the Lib Dems are fed of you too![/p][/quote]It was the Wycombe Labour leader who signed the letter with the Tory leader which went to residents promoting the sell off. The Lib Dem leader at the time refused to sign. How many traditional Labour voters voted for the sell off because Labour were supporting it? Considering how close the result was I would suggest that the willingness of Labour to sell out was a key factor. You can't change history Khalil. yog
  • Score: -3

4:11pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Marmite XO says...

Why not give him a roof over his head - in prison for trespassing. We don't want all smelly homeless people climbing to the top of buildings closing roads. Unless they're planning on jumping.
Why not give him a roof over his head - in prison for trespassing. We don't want all smelly homeless people climbing to the top of buildings closing roads. Unless they're planning on jumping. Marmite XO
  • Score: -23

5:10pm Sun 27 Apr 14

wycswan says...

Marmite XO wrote:
Why not give him a roof over his head - in prison for trespassing. We don't want all smelly homeless people climbing to the top of buildings closing roads. Unless they're planning on jumping.
How ill informed you are !! And obviously lacking of any compassion.
I can assure you that most homeless people do not fit your stereotype they try to keep themselves clean and tidy and blend in with society. You probably would be surprised to realise they are homeless if you met them on the street. A person doesn't have to be workshy or indeed out of work to be homeless in this area.
Try looking around for a job and then consider what you would do if your firm collapsed and left you without a job. The jobs that are available to you are few and far between often agency or temporary contract and minimum wage. Don't tell me it doesn't happen, I know it does. What would you say if you could only get part time and offered £5 an hour which is well below the legal minimum wage, it happened in Wycombe very recently. How would you pay rent on that? There's not much you could afford around this area. At best you could maybe afford something from one of the few unscrupulous landlords in accommodation that is in a bad state of repair but even that is highly unlikely.
The fact is Locally and Nationally the system is failing those in most need and the situation is deteriorating rapidly.
Being in the voluntary sector I do by the way have a reasonable idea of the current situation. I also have a background of a lifetime working in various areas/positions helping those less fortunate than myself.
Maybe instead of making unhelpful comments you would be better employed educating yourself on the situation then maybe you can make a constructive suggestions to improve the plight of others.
[quote][p][bold]Marmite XO[/bold] wrote: Why not give him a roof over his head - in prison for trespassing. We don't want all smelly homeless people climbing to the top of buildings closing roads. Unless they're planning on jumping.[/p][/quote]How ill informed you are !! And obviously lacking of any compassion. I can assure you that most homeless people do not fit your stereotype they try to keep themselves clean and tidy and blend in with society. You probably would be surprised to realise they are homeless if you met them on the street. A person doesn't have to be workshy or indeed out of work to be homeless in this area. Try looking around for a job and then consider what you would do if your firm collapsed and left you without a job. The jobs that are available to you are few and far between often agency or temporary contract and minimum wage. Don't tell me it doesn't happen, I know it does. What would you say if you could only get part time and offered £5 an hour which is well below the legal minimum wage, it happened in Wycombe very recently. How would you pay rent on that? There's not much you could afford around this area. At best you could maybe afford something from one of the few unscrupulous landlords in accommodation that is in a bad state of repair but even that is highly unlikely. The fact is Locally and Nationally the system is failing those in most need and the situation is deteriorating rapidly. Being in the voluntary sector I do by the way have a reasonable idea of the current situation. I also have a background of a lifetime working in various areas/positions helping those less fortunate than myself. Maybe instead of making unhelpful comments you would be better employed educating yourself on the situation then maybe you can make a constructive suggestions to improve the plight of others. wycswan
  • Score: 12

9:39pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Lara B says...

People like Marmite just want a reaction as they are clearly ignorant.
This isn't about you but about some poor person that has no where to live,
you fool!
Do you think he wanted to cause this trouble?
I hope you loose everything and then experience what this poor man has had too..
People like Marmite just want a reaction as they are clearly ignorant. This isn't about you but about some poor person that has no where to live, you fool! Do you think he wanted to cause this trouble? I hope you loose everything and then experience what this poor man has had too.. Lara B
  • Score: 6

10:08pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Marcus Khalil says...

yog wrote:
Marcus Khalil wrote:
yog wrote:
Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent???

Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.
Here we go again, Julia Wassell going on about Labour and Tories selling off the housing stock. It was the Wycombe Labour group leader that opposed it - in case you forgotten! Oh by the way. a person that has switched more parties than I have had hot dinners is a fine person to talk. You have run out parties to switch to as it seems the Lib Dems are fed of you too!
It was the Wycombe Labour leader who signed the letter with the Tory leader which went to residents promoting the sell off. The Lib Dem leader at the time refused to sign.
How many traditional Labour voters voted for the sell off because Labour were supporting it?
Considering how close the result was I would suggest that the willingness of Labour to sell out was a key factor.
You can't change history Khalil.
Your right you can't change history. The decision to sell off came from the resident survey that was conducted before the 2011 elections. It had nothing to do with any letter being signed by the Wycombe Labour Group leader at the time - so get your facts right!
[quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marcus Khalil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent??? Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.[/p][/quote]Here we go again, Julia Wassell going on about Labour and Tories selling off the housing stock. It was the Wycombe Labour group leader that opposed it - in case you forgotten! Oh by the way. a person that has switched more parties than I have had hot dinners is a fine person to talk. You have run out parties to switch to as it seems the Lib Dems are fed of you too![/p][/quote]It was the Wycombe Labour leader who signed the letter with the Tory leader which went to residents promoting the sell off. The Lib Dem leader at the time refused to sign. How many traditional Labour voters voted for the sell off because Labour were supporting it? Considering how close the result was I would suggest that the willingness of Labour to sell out was a key factor. You can't change history Khalil.[/p][/quote]Your right you can't change history. The decision to sell off came from the resident survey that was conducted before the 2011 elections. It had nothing to do with any letter being signed by the Wycombe Labour Group leader at the time - so get your facts right! Marcus Khalil
  • Score: 4

11:39pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Mr Totterdge Hill says...

It worked before when the old landlord of the donkey... OK before Brendan was the landlord... it worked for him when he climbed on top of the court house...
It worked before when the old landlord of the donkey... OK before Brendan was the landlord... it worked for him when he climbed on top of the court house... Mr Totterdge Hill
  • Score: 0

11:57pm Sun 27 Apr 14

yog says...

Marcus Khalil wrote:
yog wrote:
Marcus Khalil wrote:
yog wrote:
Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent???

Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.
Here we go again, Julia Wassell going on about Labour and Tories selling off the housing stock. It was the Wycombe Labour group leader that opposed it - in case you forgotten! Oh by the way. a person that has switched more parties than I have had hot dinners is a fine person to talk. You have run out parties to switch to as it seems the Lib Dems are fed of you too!
It was the Wycombe Labour leader who signed the letter with the Tory leader which went to residents promoting the sell off. The Lib Dem leader at the time refused to sign.
How many traditional Labour voters voted for the sell off because Labour were supporting it?
Considering how close the result was I would suggest that the willingness of Labour to sell out was a key factor.
You can't change history Khalil.
Your right you can't change history. The decision to sell off came from the resident survey that was conducted before the 2011 elections. It had nothing to do with any letter being signed by the Wycombe Labour Group leader at the time - so get your facts right!
So your position is that the letter sent to Residents by the leaders of the Tory and Labour groups promoting the sell off had no effect whatsoever on the voting intentions?????
Did Labour not stop to ask themselves why the Tories were so keen to get them to sign it???
[quote][p][bold]Marcus Khalil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marcus Khalil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent??? Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.[/p][/quote]Here we go again, Julia Wassell going on about Labour and Tories selling off the housing stock. It was the Wycombe Labour group leader that opposed it - in case you forgotten! Oh by the way. a person that has switched more parties than I have had hot dinners is a fine person to talk. You have run out parties to switch to as it seems the Lib Dems are fed of you too![/p][/quote]It was the Wycombe Labour leader who signed the letter with the Tory leader which went to residents promoting the sell off. The Lib Dem leader at the time refused to sign. How many traditional Labour voters voted for the sell off because Labour were supporting it? Considering how close the result was I would suggest that the willingness of Labour to sell out was a key factor. You can't change history Khalil.[/p][/quote]Your right you can't change history. The decision to sell off came from the resident survey that was conducted before the 2011 elections. It had nothing to do with any letter being signed by the Wycombe Labour Group leader at the time - so get your facts right![/p][/quote]So your position is that the letter sent to Residents by the leaders of the Tory and Labour groups promoting the sell off had no effect whatsoever on the voting intentions????? Did Labour not stop to ask themselves why the Tories were so keen to get them to sign it??? yog
  • Score: 1

12:10am Mon 28 Apr 14

Marcus Khalil says...

yog wrote:
Marcus Khalil wrote:
yog wrote:
Marcus Khalil wrote:
yog wrote:
Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent???

Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.
Here we go again, Julia Wassell going on about Labour and Tories selling off the housing stock. It was the Wycombe Labour group leader that opposed it - in case you forgotten! Oh by the way. a person that has switched more parties than I have had hot dinners is a fine person to talk. You have run out parties to switch to as it seems the Lib Dems are fed of you too!
It was the Wycombe Labour leader who signed the letter with the Tory leader which went to residents promoting the sell off. The Lib Dem leader at the time refused to sign.
How many traditional Labour voters voted for the sell off because Labour were supporting it?
Considering how close the result was I would suggest that the willingness of Labour to sell out was a key factor.
You can't change history Khalil.
Your right you can't change history. The decision to sell off came from the resident survey that was conducted before the 2011 elections. It had nothing to do with any letter being signed by the Wycombe Labour Group leader at the time - so get your facts right!
So your position is that the letter sent to Residents by the leaders of the Tory and Labour groups promoting the sell off had no effect whatsoever on the voting intentions?????
Did Labour not stop to ask themselves why the Tories were so keen to get them to sign it???
I refer to the BFP article that tells the true story : http://www.bucksfree
press.co.uk/news/loc
alnews/highwycombe/9
400818.Sparks_fly_as
_council_homes_sold/


Even then you were quoted as saying that the Wycombe Labour Group Leader had endorsed a letter sent to all residents but in actual fact it was the Lib Dems who had promoted the sell off in the Red Kite newsletter in Mar 2011 (please note before 2011 elections). Lets not forget Brain Pollock who was the board member of Red Kite - you hypocrits!!!!!! Julia get a life and let everyone live in peace - no party can work with you and your silly raving and ranting!
[quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marcus Khalil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marcus Khalil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent??? Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.[/p][/quote]Here we go again, Julia Wassell going on about Labour and Tories selling off the housing stock. It was the Wycombe Labour group leader that opposed it - in case you forgotten! Oh by the way. a person that has switched more parties than I have had hot dinners is a fine person to talk. You have run out parties to switch to as it seems the Lib Dems are fed of you too![/p][/quote]It was the Wycombe Labour leader who signed the letter with the Tory leader which went to residents promoting the sell off. The Lib Dem leader at the time refused to sign. How many traditional Labour voters voted for the sell off because Labour were supporting it? Considering how close the result was I would suggest that the willingness of Labour to sell out was a key factor. You can't change history Khalil.[/p][/quote]Your right you can't change history. The decision to sell off came from the resident survey that was conducted before the 2011 elections. It had nothing to do with any letter being signed by the Wycombe Labour Group leader at the time - so get your facts right![/p][/quote]So your position is that the letter sent to Residents by the leaders of the Tory and Labour groups promoting the sell off had no effect whatsoever on the voting intentions????? Did Labour not stop to ask themselves why the Tories were so keen to get them to sign it???[/p][/quote]I refer to the BFP article that tells the true story : http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/loc alnews/highwycombe/9 400818.Sparks_fly_as _council_homes_sold/ Even then you were quoted as saying that the Wycombe Labour Group Leader had endorsed a letter sent to all residents but in actual fact it was the Lib Dems who had promoted the sell off in the Red Kite newsletter in Mar 2011 (please note before 2011 elections). Lets not forget Brain Pollock who was the board member of Red Kite - you hypocrits!!!!!! Julia get a life and let everyone live in peace - no party can work with you and your silly raving and ranting! Marcus Khalil
  • Score: 3

1:00pm Mon 28 Apr 14

yog says...

Marcus Khalil wrote:
yog wrote:
Marcus Khalil wrote:
yog wrote:
Marcus Khalil wrote:
yog wrote:
Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent???

Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.
Here we go again, Julia Wassell going on about Labour and Tories selling off the housing stock. It was the Wycombe Labour group leader that opposed it - in case you forgotten! Oh by the way. a person that has switched more parties than I have had hot dinners is a fine person to talk. You have run out parties to switch to as it seems the Lib Dems are fed of you too!
It was the Wycombe Labour leader who signed the letter with the Tory leader which went to residents promoting the sell off. The Lib Dem leader at the time refused to sign.
How many traditional Labour voters voted for the sell off because Labour were supporting it?
Considering how close the result was I would suggest that the willingness of Labour to sell out was a key factor.
You can't change history Khalil.
Your right you can't change history. The decision to sell off came from the resident survey that was conducted before the 2011 elections. It had nothing to do with any letter being signed by the Wycombe Labour Group leader at the time - so get your facts right!
So your position is that the letter sent to Residents by the leaders of the Tory and Labour groups promoting the sell off had no effect whatsoever on the voting intentions?????
Did Labour not stop to ask themselves why the Tories were so keen to get them to sign it???
I refer to the BFP article that tells the true story : http://www.bucksfree

press.co.uk/news/loc

alnews/highwycombe/9

400818.Sparks_fly_as

_council_homes_sold/



Even then you were quoted as saying that the Wycombe Labour Group Leader had endorsed a letter sent to all residents but in actual fact it was the Lib Dems who had promoted the sell off in the Red Kite newsletter in Mar 2011 (please note before 2011 elections). Lets not forget Brain Pollock who was the board member of Red Kite - you hypocrits!!!!!! Julia get a life and let everyone live in peace - no party can work with you and your silly raving and ranting!
resorting to name calling just proves how unfit Labour members are to serve our area.
[quote][p][bold]Marcus Khalil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marcus Khalil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marcus Khalil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: Presumably as he has a car to sleep in that doesn't qualify as being urgent??? Hope he gets something sorted but once Labour and the Tories ganged up on residents to flog the social housing off there is little housing left for WDC to offer.[/p][/quote]Here we go again, Julia Wassell going on about Labour and Tories selling off the housing stock. It was the Wycombe Labour group leader that opposed it - in case you forgotten! Oh by the way. a person that has switched more parties than I have had hot dinners is a fine person to talk. You have run out parties to switch to as it seems the Lib Dems are fed of you too![/p][/quote]It was the Wycombe Labour leader who signed the letter with the Tory leader which went to residents promoting the sell off. The Lib Dem leader at the time refused to sign. How many traditional Labour voters voted for the sell off because Labour were supporting it? Considering how close the result was I would suggest that the willingness of Labour to sell out was a key factor. You can't change history Khalil.[/p][/quote]Your right you can't change history. The decision to sell off came from the resident survey that was conducted before the 2011 elections. It had nothing to do with any letter being signed by the Wycombe Labour Group leader at the time - so get your facts right![/p][/quote]So your position is that the letter sent to Residents by the leaders of the Tory and Labour groups promoting the sell off had no effect whatsoever on the voting intentions????? Did Labour not stop to ask themselves why the Tories were so keen to get them to sign it???[/p][/quote]I refer to the BFP article that tells the true story : http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/loc alnews/highwycombe/9 400818.Sparks_fly_as _council_homes_sold/ Even then you were quoted as saying that the Wycombe Labour Group Leader had endorsed a letter sent to all residents but in actual fact it was the Lib Dems who had promoted the sell off in the Red Kite newsletter in Mar 2011 (please note before 2011 elections). Lets not forget Brain Pollock who was the board member of Red Kite - you hypocrits!!!!!! Julia get a life and let everyone live in peace - no party can work with you and your silly raving and ranting![/p][/quote]resorting to name calling just proves how unfit Labour members are to serve our area. yog
  • Score: -3

1:47pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Marcus Khalil says...

name calling....i think you will find it is called the stating theTRUTH!
name calling....i think you will find it is called the stating theTRUTH! Marcus Khalil
  • Score: 5

6:38am Tue 29 Apr 14

1wycombe says...

Peter Cyprus wrote:
I wonder how many houses are occupied by immigrants?
your mum is one of those immigrants you CNT when things go wrong you blame them.... not the goverment who have spent 30 billion fighting the pointless/useless unwinable WARS.....
[quote][p][bold]Peter Cyprus[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many houses are occupied by immigrants?[/p][/quote]your mum is one of those immigrants you CNT when things go wrong you blame them.... not the goverment who have spent 30 billion fighting the pointless/useless unwinable WARS..... 1wycombe
  • Score: 2

6:40am Tue 29 Apr 14

1wycombe says...

Peter Cyprus wrote:
I wonder how many houses are occupied by immigrants?
your mum is one of those immigrants you CNT when things go wrong you blame them.... not the goverment who have spent 30 billion fighting the pointless/useless unwinable WARS.....
[quote][p][bold]Peter Cyprus[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many houses are occupied by immigrants?[/p][/quote]your mum is one of those immigrants you CNT when things go wrong you blame them.... not the goverment who have spent 30 billion fighting the pointless/useless unwinable WARS..... 1wycombe
  • Score: 0

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