Campaign group says 1,925 HS2 petitions sent to Parliament

Bucks Free Press: Campaign group says 1,925 HS2 petitions sent to Parliament Campaign group says 1,925 HS2 petitions sent to Parliament

ALMOST 2,000 petitions protesting against HS2 have been received by the government, according to an Amersham-based campaign group.

The petitioning process, allowing residents affected by the route of the line to have their say about the controversial plans and have the project scrutinised by MPs, closed earlier this afternoon.

According to the HS2 Action Alliance, a total of 1,925 petitions were sent to Parliament.

Further petitions were also handed in at the House of Commons by local authorities - including some in Buckinghamshire - the line is set to run through. The deadline for them was last week.

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12:36am Sat 24 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

It's clear that we are run by big money today.

No amount of petitions will change the government's intention of building the line. They have run out various justifications for the line but have not yet produced a consistent and rational case and I am inclined to wonder if it is the projected role of the Chinese government and Chinese technology in constructing HS2 that is the real reason - Cameron is already ingratiating the British government with the up-and-coming superpower of the future. In the absence of any rational explanation from Whitehall this seems as satisfying an explanation as any other.

As well as HS2 we learnt today that the government may change the law to permit fracking beneath people's houses.

The Royal Mail privatisation was a rip-off of the taxpayer (like all the privatisations going back to the ones under Thatcher) and Vince Cable refuses to name the hedge funds who purchased the Royal Mail shares cheaply, as a long term investment, and then sold them immediately for a quick profit.

At the time the HS2 bill was put into parliament last November there was the (already-forgotten) Grangemouth crisis in Scotland, where the oil-refinery was closed down and then reopened by Ineos the owners, after the Unite union had accepted drastic cuts to employees' working conditions. This was a significant part of the Scottish economy and the British energy supply. At the time no one in Westminster was willing or able to do anything about it.
Gerry Hassan in Open Democracy, November 1st 2013, (after impartially verbally slapping around both major parties, the Unite union, and Falkirk Labour MP Eric Joyce,) said:
‘… there is what all of this says about the mindset of the UK media and politics. Grangemouth, a huge strategic site and asset for the Scottish and UK economy, just did not matter to the ideological hothouse of ‘Daily Telegraph’/’Dail
yMail’ land. Such concerns to them are about the past, whereas they believe in the bright slick Southern future selling multi-million pound houses to foreigners, and clearing central London of the disposed and welfare classes ...The entire British political classes seem to know nothing about economics, industry or the world of work, … yet are happy to lecture the rest of us on the realities of competition, globalisation and in the Cameron Conservative lexicon, the pressures of ‘the global race’ … Where is the debate about ownership and the limits of ‘Open Britain’ where no strategic national interest cannot be foreign owned and controlled? (including parts of the GCHQ-NSA run database state). The levels of ideological blinkeredness mixed with incompetence in the Grangemouth saga are frightening, nearly shutting the whole plant which would have resulted in the loss of thousands of jobs.


Hassan calls this ‘the bright slick Southern future’ but HS2 shows people in Bucks that what Hassan rightly calls ideologically blinkered government, in the interests of big business efficiency alone, affects areas of ‘Open Britain’ like ours, as well as the Scottish coast.


http://www.gerryhass
an.com/uncategorized
/the-crisis-of-grang
emouth-and-what-it-s
ays-about-scotland-a
nd-britain/
It's clear that we are run by big money today. No amount of petitions will change the government's intention of building the line. They have run out various justifications for the line but have not yet produced a consistent and rational case and I am inclined to wonder if it is the projected role of the Chinese government and Chinese technology in constructing HS2 that is the real reason - Cameron is already ingratiating the British government with the up-and-coming superpower of the future. In the absence of any rational explanation from Whitehall this seems as satisfying an explanation as any other. As well as HS2 we learnt today that the government may change the law to permit fracking beneath people's houses. The Royal Mail privatisation was a rip-off of the taxpayer (like all the privatisations going back to the ones under Thatcher) and Vince Cable refuses to name the hedge funds who purchased the Royal Mail shares cheaply, as a long term investment, and then sold them immediately for a quick profit. At the time the HS2 bill was put into parliament last November there was the (already-forgotten) Grangemouth crisis in Scotland, where the oil-refinery was closed down and then reopened by Ineos the owners, after the Unite union had accepted drastic cuts to employees' working conditions. This was a significant part of the Scottish economy and the British energy supply. At the time no one in Westminster was willing or able to do anything about it. Gerry Hassan in Open Democracy, November 1st 2013, (after impartially verbally slapping around both major parties, the Unite union, and Falkirk Labour MP Eric Joyce,) said: [italic] ‘… [also] there is what all of this says about the mindset of the UK media and politics. Grangemouth, a huge strategic site and asset for the Scottish and UK economy, just did not matter to the ideological hothouse of ‘Daily Telegraph’/’Dail yMail’ land. Such concerns to them are about the past, whereas they believe in the bright slick Southern future selling multi-million pound houses to foreigners, and clearing central London of the disposed [sic] and welfare classes ...The entire British political classes seem to know nothing about economics, industry or the world of work, … yet are happy to lecture the rest of us on the realities of competition, globalisation and in the Cameron Conservative lexicon, the pressures of ‘the global race’ … Where is the debate about ownership and the limits of ‘Open Britain’ where no strategic national interest cannot be foreign owned and controlled? (including parts of the GCHQ-NSA run database state). The levels of ideological blinkeredness mixed with incompetence in the Grangemouth saga are frightening, nearly shutting the whole plant which would have resulted in the loss of thousands of jobs. [/italic] Hassan calls this ‘the bright slick Southern future’ but HS2 shows people in Bucks that what Hassan rightly calls ideologically blinkered government, in the interests of big business efficiency alone, affects areas of ‘Open Britain’ like ours, as well as the Scottish coast. http://www.gerryhass an.com/uncategorized /the-crisis-of-grang emouth-and-what-it-s ays-about-scotland-a nd-britain/ Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: -3

12:44am Sat 24 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

It's clear that we are run by big money today.

No amount of petitions will change the government's intention of building the line. They have run out various justifications for the line but have not yet produced a consistent and rational case and I am inclined to wonder if it is the projected role of the Chinese government and Chinese technology in constructing HS2 that is the real reason - Cameron is already ingratiating the British government with the up-and-coming superpower of the future. In the absence of any rational explanation from Whitehall this seems as satisfying an explanation as any other.

As well as HS2 we learnt today that the government may change the law to permit fracking beneath people's houses.

The Royal Mail privatisation was a rip-off of the taxpayer (like all the privatisations going back to the ones under Thatcher) and Vince Cable refuses to name the hedge funds who purchased the Royal Mail shares cheaply, as a long term investment, and then sold them immediately for a quick profit.

At the time the HS2 bill was put into parliament last November there was the (already-forgotten) Grangemouth crisis in Scotland, where the oil-refinery was closed down and then reopened by Ineos the owners, after the Unite union had accepted drastic cuts to employees' working conditions. This was a significant part of the Scottish economy and the British energy supply. At the time no one in Westminster was willing or able to do anything about it.
Gerry Hassan in Open Democracy, November 1st 2013, (after impartially verbally slapping around both major parties, the Unite union, and Falkirk Labour MP Eric Joyce,) said:
‘… there is what all of this says about the mindset of the UK media and politics. Grangemouth, a huge strategic site and asset for the Scottish and UK economy, just did not matter to the ideological hothouse of ‘Daily Telegraph’/’Dail
yMail’ land. Such concerns to them are about the past, whereas they believe in the bright slick Southern future selling multi-million pound houses to foreigners, and clearing central London of the disposed and welfare classes ...The entire British political classes seem to know nothing about economics, industry or the world of work, … yet are happy to lecture the rest of us on the realities of competition, globalisation and in the Cameron Conservative lexicon, the pressures of ‘the global race’ … Where is the debate about ownership and the limits of ‘Open Britain’ where no strategic national interest cannot be foreign owned and controlled? (including parts of the GCHQ-NSA run database state). The levels of ideological blinkeredness mixed with incompetence in the Grangemouth saga are frightening, nearly shutting the whole plant which would have resulted in the loss of thousands of jobs.


Hassan calls this ‘the bright slick Southern future’ but HS2 shows people in Bucks that what Hassan rightly calls ideologically blinkered government, in the interests of big business efficiency alone, affects areas of ‘Open Britain’ like ours, as well as the Scottish coast.


http://www.gerryhass
an.com/uncategorized
/the-crisis-of-grang
emouth-and-what-it-s
ays-about-scotland-a
nd-britain/
It's clear that we are run by big money today. No amount of petitions will change the government's intention of building the line. They have run out various justifications for the line but have not yet produced a consistent and rational case and I am inclined to wonder if it is the projected role of the Chinese government and Chinese technology in constructing HS2 that is the real reason - Cameron is already ingratiating the British government with the up-and-coming superpower of the future. In the absence of any rational explanation from Whitehall this seems as satisfying an explanation as any other. As well as HS2 we learnt today that the government may change the law to permit fracking beneath people's houses. The Royal Mail privatisation was a rip-off of the taxpayer (like all the privatisations going back to the ones under Thatcher) and Vince Cable refuses to name the hedge funds who purchased the Royal Mail shares cheaply, as a long term investment, and then sold them immediately for a quick profit. At the time the HS2 bill was put into parliament last November there was the (already-forgotten) Grangemouth crisis in Scotland, where the oil-refinery was closed down and then reopened by Ineos the owners, after the Unite union had accepted drastic cuts to employees' working conditions. This was a significant part of the Scottish economy and the British energy supply. At the time no one in Westminster was willing or able to do anything about it. Gerry Hassan in Open Democracy, November 1st 2013, (after impartially verbally slapping around both major parties, the Unite union, and Falkirk Labour MP Eric Joyce,) said: [italic] ‘… [also] there is what all of this says about the mindset of the UK media and politics. Grangemouth, a huge strategic site and asset for the Scottish and UK economy, just did not matter to the ideological hothouse of ‘Daily Telegraph’/’Dail yMail’ land. Such concerns to them are about the past, whereas they believe in the bright slick Southern future selling multi-million pound houses to foreigners, and clearing central London of the disposed [sic] and welfare classes ...The entire British political classes seem to know nothing about economics, industry or the world of work, … yet are happy to lecture the rest of us on the realities of competition, globalisation and in the Cameron Conservative lexicon, the pressures of ‘the global race’ … Where is the debate about ownership and the limits of ‘Open Britain’ where no strategic national interest cannot be foreign owned and controlled? (including parts of the GCHQ-NSA run database state). The levels of ideological blinkeredness mixed with incompetence in the Grangemouth saga are frightening, nearly shutting the whole plant which would have resulted in the loss of thousands of jobs. [/italic] Hassan calls this ‘the bright slick Southern future’ but HS2 shows people in Bucks that what Hassan rightly calls ideologically blinkered government, in the interests of big business efficiency alone, affects areas of ‘Open Britain’ like ours, as well as the Scottish coast. http://www.gerryhass an.com/uncategorized /the-crisis-of-grang emouth-and-what-it-s ays-about-scotland-a nd-britain/ Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: -3

12:20pm Sat 24 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

*big business efficiency* in the last sentence should read 'big business profitability'.
*big business efficiency* in the last sentence should read 'big business profitability'. Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 6

6:08pm Sat 24 May 14

MattHopkins1620 says...

Spot on. I have seen nothing in support of HS2 that stands the test of scrutiny, hence we have had numerous justifications put forward, knocked down and replaced with another. There is clearly more to the building of this monster than meets the eye.

Perhaps it's just a case of misguided politicians paying too much attention to advisors instead of applying common sense.

We should never forget that the average politician is no more intelligent than the average man but they are often in possession of more information. The question is who is providing the information?

I do not subscribe to the notion that they are driven by personal greed and profits for mates but if we can agree that they are simple folk I do believe that they are often guided by vested interests, particularly when they are out of their depth and at their most gullible. Mrs Clarke and her stadium perhaps?
Spot on. I have seen nothing in support of HS2 that stands the test of scrutiny, hence we have had numerous justifications put forward, knocked down and replaced with another. There is clearly more to the building of this monster than meets the eye. Perhaps it's just a case of misguided politicians paying too much attention to advisors instead of applying common sense. We should never forget that the average politician is no more intelligent than the average man but they are often in possession of more information. The question is who is providing the information? I do not subscribe to the notion that they are driven by personal greed and profits for mates but if we can agree that they are simple folk I do believe that they are often guided by vested interests, particularly when they are out of their depth and at their most gullible. Mrs Clarke and her stadium perhaps? MattHopkins1620
  • Score: -5

1:15pm Sun 25 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

MattHopkins1620 wrote:
Spot on. I have seen nothing in support of HS2 that stands the test of scrutiny, hence we have had numerous justifications put forward, knocked down and replaced with another. There is clearly more to the building of this monster than meets the eye.

Perhaps it's just a case of misguided politicians paying too much attention to advisors instead of applying common sense.

We should never forget that the average politician is no more intelligent than the average man but they are often in possession of more information. The question is who is providing the information?

I do not subscribe to the notion that they are driven by personal greed and profits for mates but if we can agree that they are simple folk I do believe that they are often guided by vested interests, particularly when they are out of their depth and at their most gullible. Mrs Clarke and her stadium perhaps?
I do not subscribe to the notion that they are driven by personal greed and profits for mates …


I do - I suppose the desire for wealth or greater wealth is not the only explanation but privatisations are short term money making initiatives, and the HS2 initiative too, appears to be motivated partly by the wish to give public money to please the wealthy, sometimes super-wealthy, people who run multi-million pound enterprises.
[quote][p][bold]MattHopkins1620[/bold] wrote: Spot on. I have seen nothing in support of HS2 that stands the test of scrutiny, hence we have had numerous justifications put forward, knocked down and replaced with another. There is clearly more to the building of this monster than meets the eye. Perhaps it's just a case of misguided politicians paying too much attention to advisors instead of applying common sense. We should never forget that the average politician is no more intelligent than the average man but they are often in possession of more information. The question is who is providing the information? I do not subscribe to the notion that they are driven by personal greed and profits for mates but if we can agree that they are simple folk I do believe that they are often guided by vested interests, particularly when they are out of their depth and at their most gullible. Mrs Clarke and her stadium perhaps?[/p][/quote][italic] I do not subscribe to the notion that they are driven by personal greed and profits for mates … [/italic] I do - I suppose the desire for wealth or greater wealth is not the only explanation but privatisations are short term money making initiatives, and the HS2 initiative too, appears to be motivated partly by the wish to give public money to please the wealthy, sometimes super-wealthy, people who run multi-million pound enterprises. Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: -3

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