Council cuts grant for Dial-a-Ride service

Bucks Free Press: Council cuts grant for Dial-a-Ride service Council cuts grant for Dial-a-Ride service

FUNDING the Wycombe Dial-a-Ride receives from Wycombe District Council has been slashed – to the annoyance of users of the service.

The authority will hand £42,000 to the Dial-a-Ride this year but the grant will be cut to £23,500 for 2015/16, subject to a two year service level agreement.

WDC said the decision to bring the level of funding it provided in-line with that of Buckinghamshire County Council was made after a major grants review.

In a statement, WDC said: “We are conscious of the challenges that a reduction in grant funding could pose and gave Wycombe Dial-a-Ride advance notice that this would be the case, phasing the reduction over two years.

“We have a long association with Wycombe Dial-a-Ride and continue to recognise the value of the service for local people, as well as the sustained efforts made in recent years to modernise the service.

“We hope that it will be possible for the organisation to explore new opportunities and to make the best use of available funding, in order that those with mobility difficulties will continue to be helped.”

June Little, from High Wycombe, said Wycombe Dial-a-Ride bosses had notified all regular users about the drop in funding in a letter and she now fears for the future of the service.

She said: “So many older people use Dial a Ride and they are really good drivers. We can’t always afford taxis, they aren’t cheap.

“I can’t get around so easily, I’m not that steady on my feet and if you are not able to walk very far it’s so useful.

"I can get myself down the road to take a bus but I can’t manage it if I want to do a big shop.

“It really is a good service. It’s very busy and well worth the money.”

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9:44am Fri 30 May 14

townraider says...

Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district
Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district townraider
  • Score: 8

10:20am Fri 30 May 14

sparky49 says...

townraider wrote:
Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district
Not the tory council, the tory government. Millionaire Bankers (you as well Collingwood) screwed this country up and got rewarded with a tax break whilst the disabled and elderly (mostly non taxpayers) get shafted. Shameful.
Vote them out. Things will get worse if they get in on their own.
[quote][p][bold]townraider[/bold] wrote: Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district[/p][/quote]Not the tory council, the tory government. Millionaire Bankers (you as well Collingwood) screwed this country up and got rewarded with a tax break whilst the disabled and elderly (mostly non taxpayers) get shafted. Shameful. Vote them out. Things will get worse if they get in on their own. sparky49
  • Score: 10

10:41am Fri 30 May 14

monkey_man says...

This is the kind of thing that happens when Westminster slash council budgets, services get cut and people suffer. It's the result of years of over spending by frivolous politicians who know nothing of how the real people of this country live
This is the kind of thing that happens when Westminster slash council budgets, services get cut and people suffer. It's the result of years of over spending by frivolous politicians who know nothing of how the real people of this country live monkey_man
  • Score: 8

11:00am Fri 30 May 14

Ivor'sbestfriend says...

sparky49 wrote:
townraider wrote:
Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district
Not the tory council, the tory government. Millionaire Bankers (you as well Collingwood) screwed this country up and got rewarded with a tax break whilst the disabled and elderly (mostly non taxpayers) get shafted. Shameful.
Vote them out. Things will get worse if they get in on their own.
Of course, definitely not Labour's fault. It's not like they were in power or anything.
[quote][p][bold]sparky49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townraider[/bold] wrote: Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district[/p][/quote]Not the tory council, the tory government. Millionaire Bankers (you as well Collingwood) screwed this country up and got rewarded with a tax break whilst the disabled and elderly (mostly non taxpayers) get shafted. Shameful. Vote them out. Things will get worse if they get in on their own.[/p][/quote]Of course, definitely not Labour's fault. It's not like they were in power or anything. Ivor'sbestfriend
  • Score: 3

12:38pm Fri 30 May 14

retchub says...

have the councillers expenses budget been cut????????? still typical tory government let the working class suffer !!!
have the councillers expenses budget been cut????????? still typical tory government let the working class suffer !!! retchub
  • Score: 0

2:02pm Fri 30 May 14

Carmadchris says...

The money allocated for services like this was allocated by a labour government, this created a deficit. We are now in for cut backs and this is a service I for one would not like to see cut but, what do we cut? The answer is welfare but no ones brave enough to try to push through rent and vouchers for food / clothing , no cash till you earn it
All is not lost though, depends how savy the dial-a-ride lot are, there isa fantastic sponsorship opertunity for everyone who sells stuff to the elderly, brochures can be on the bus, posters I various places, then it's part public funded and part industry funded, they could also possibly register as a charity service which helps with tax.
Let's hope the head honchos at dial a ride are decent business people
The money allocated for services like this was allocated by a labour government, this created a deficit. We are now in for cut backs and this is a service I for one would not like to see cut but, what do we cut? The answer is welfare but no ones brave enough to try to push through rent and vouchers for food / clothing , no cash till you earn it All is not lost though, depends how savy the dial-a-ride lot are, there isa fantastic sponsorship opertunity for everyone who sells stuff to the elderly, brochures can be on the bus, posters I various places, then it's part public funded and part industry funded, they could also possibly register as a charity service which helps with tax. Let's hope the head honchos at dial a ride are decent business people Carmadchris
  • Score: 0

7:42am Sat 31 May 14

tom.marlow2 says...

Ivor'sbestfriend wrote:
sparky49 wrote:
townraider wrote:
Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district
Not the tory council, the tory government. Millionaire Bankers (you as well Collingwood) screwed this country up and got rewarded with a tax break whilst the disabled and elderly (mostly non taxpayers) get shafted. Shameful.
Vote them out. Things will get worse if they get in on their own.
Of course, definitely not Labour's fault. It's not like they were in power or anything.
Of course it was Labour's fault, after all, they invented credit derivatives, then went on a reckless debt fuelled gambling spree. The presidents of Lehmann Bros and Merril Lynch were clandestine members of the Labour party.
[quote][p][bold]Ivor'sbestfriend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sparky49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townraider[/bold] wrote: Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district[/p][/quote]Not the tory council, the tory government. Millionaire Bankers (you as well Collingwood) screwed this country up and got rewarded with a tax break whilst the disabled and elderly (mostly non taxpayers) get shafted. Shameful. Vote them out. Things will get worse if they get in on their own.[/p][/quote]Of course, definitely not Labour's fault. It's not like they were in power or anything.[/p][/quote]Of course it was Labour's fault, after all, they invented credit derivatives, then went on a reckless debt fuelled gambling spree. The presidents of Lehmann Bros and Merril Lynch were clandestine members of the Labour party. tom.marlow2
  • Score: 1

8:06am Sat 31 May 14

retchub says...

WHAT DO WE CUT ?? someone says . COUNCILLORS EXPENSES. !!!! easy isn,t it ??????
WHAT DO WE CUT ?? someone says . COUNCILLORS EXPENSES. !!!! easy isn,t it ?????? retchub
  • Score: 6

10:04am Sat 31 May 14

sparky49 says...

Ivor'sbestfriend wrote:
sparky49 wrote:
townraider wrote:
Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district
Not the tory council, the tory government. Millionaire Bankers (you as well Collingwood) screwed this country up and got rewarded with a tax break whilst the disabled and elderly (mostly non taxpayers) get shafted. Shameful.
Vote them out. Things will get worse if they get in on their own.
Of course, definitely not Labour's fault. It's not like they were in power or anything.
Gordon Brown tried to reign in the bankers whilst in office and this was voted against by Cameron.
[quote][p][bold]Ivor'sbestfriend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sparky49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townraider[/bold] wrote: Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district[/p][/quote]Not the tory council, the tory government. Millionaire Bankers (you as well Collingwood) screwed this country up and got rewarded with a tax break whilst the disabled and elderly (mostly non taxpayers) get shafted. Shameful. Vote them out. Things will get worse if they get in on their own.[/p][/quote]Of course, definitely not Labour's fault. It's not like they were in power or anything.[/p][/quote]Gordon Brown tried to reign in the bankers whilst in office and this was voted against by Cameron. sparky49
  • Score: 4

10:09am Sat 31 May 14

sparky49 says...

Carmadchris wrote:
The money allocated for services like this was allocated by a labour government, this created a deficit. We are now in for cut backs and this is a service I for one would not like to see cut but, what do we cut? The answer is welfare but no ones brave enough to try to push through rent and vouchers for food / clothing , no cash till you earn it
All is not lost though, depends how savy the dial-a-ride lot are, there isa fantastic sponsorship opertunity for everyone who sells stuff to the elderly, brochures can be on the bus, posters I various places, then it's part public funded and part industry funded, they could also possibly register as a charity service which helps with tax.
Let's hope the head honchos at dial a ride are decent business people
Of course it was allocated by a Labour Government along with the universal bus pass which was praised by all, and did not cost a kings ransom as the percentage of OAPS using the bus as opposed to the percentage of OAPS with cars bore this out. Take your blinkers off not everything was Gordon's Fault. we now have a 5% tax break for millionaires but no pay rises for the lowest paid, how on earth is this going to clear the so called deficit. They have had 4 years and still blame other people.
[quote][p][bold]Carmadchris[/bold] wrote: The money allocated for services like this was allocated by a labour government, this created a deficit. We are now in for cut backs and this is a service I for one would not like to see cut but, what do we cut? The answer is welfare but no ones brave enough to try to push through rent and vouchers for food / clothing , no cash till you earn it All is not lost though, depends how savy the dial-a-ride lot are, there isa fantastic sponsorship opertunity for everyone who sells stuff to the elderly, brochures can be on the bus, posters I various places, then it's part public funded and part industry funded, they could also possibly register as a charity service which helps with tax. Let's hope the head honchos at dial a ride are decent business people[/p][/quote]Of course it was allocated by a Labour Government along with the universal bus pass which was praised by all, and did not cost a kings ransom as the percentage of OAPS using the bus as opposed to the percentage of OAPS with cars bore this out. Take your blinkers off not everything was Gordon's Fault. we now have a 5% tax break for millionaires but no pay rises for the lowest paid, how on earth is this going to clear the so called deficit. They have had 4 years and still blame other people. sparky49
  • Score: 3

10:11am Sat 31 May 14

sparky49 says...

tom.marlow2 wrote:
Ivor'sbestfriend wrote:
sparky49 wrote:
townraider wrote:
Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district
Not the tory council, the tory government. Millionaire Bankers (you as well Collingwood) screwed this country up and got rewarded with a tax break whilst the disabled and elderly (mostly non taxpayers) get shafted. Shameful.
Vote them out. Things will get worse if they get in on their own.
Of course, definitely not Labour's fault. It's not like they were in power or anything.
Of course it was Labour's fault, after all, they invented credit derivatives, then went on a reckless debt fuelled gambling spree. The presidents of Lehmann Bros and Merril Lynch were clandestine members of the Labour party.
Yes and as I have already said, Gordon saw this and tried to stop it but it was voted against by Cameron. Take your rose tinted glasses off it is not the fault of any one party, they all played a part in it.
[quote][p][bold]tom.marlow2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ivor'sbestfriend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sparky49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townraider[/bold] wrote: Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district[/p][/quote]Not the tory council, the tory government. Millionaire Bankers (you as well Collingwood) screwed this country up and got rewarded with a tax break whilst the disabled and elderly (mostly non taxpayers) get shafted. Shameful. Vote them out. Things will get worse if they get in on their own.[/p][/quote]Of course, definitely not Labour's fault. It's not like they were in power or anything.[/p][/quote]Of course it was Labour's fault, after all, they invented credit derivatives, then went on a reckless debt fuelled gambling spree. The presidents of Lehmann Bros and Merril Lynch were clandestine members of the Labour party.[/p][/quote]Yes and as I have already said, Gordon saw this and tried to stop it but it was voted against by Cameron. Take your rose tinted glasses off it is not the fault of any one party, they all played a part in it. sparky49
  • Score: 2

8:44pm Sat 31 May 14

tom.marlow2 says...

sparky49 wrote:
tom.marlow2 wrote:
Ivor'sbestfriend wrote:
sparky49 wrote:
townraider wrote:
Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district
Not the tory council, the tory government. Millionaire Bankers (you as well Collingwood) screwed this country up and got rewarded with a tax break whilst the disabled and elderly (mostly non taxpayers) get shafted. Shameful.
Vote them out. Things will get worse if they get in on their own.
Of course, definitely not Labour's fault. It's not like they were in power or anything.
Of course it was Labour's fault, after all, they invented credit derivatives, then went on a reckless debt fuelled gambling spree. The presidents of Lehmann Bros and Merril Lynch were clandestine members of the Labour party.
Yes and as I have already said, Gordon saw this and tried to stop it but it was voted against by Cameron. Take your rose tinted glasses off it is not the fault of any one party, they all played a part in it.
I was being sarcastic.

Actually it was pretty much the fault of one party, the Tories. Thatcher and her billionaire puppet masters set the scene with the original deregulation during the 1980s, and making massive debt acceptable. Cameron and his cronies are now just mopping up the last of the cash
[quote][p][bold]sparky49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tom.marlow2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ivor'sbestfriend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sparky49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townraider[/bold] wrote: Yet again this Tory run council show they don't care for the people of our district[/p][/quote]Not the tory council, the tory government. Millionaire Bankers (you as well Collingwood) screwed this country up and got rewarded with a tax break whilst the disabled and elderly (mostly non taxpayers) get shafted. Shameful. Vote them out. Things will get worse if they get in on their own.[/p][/quote]Of course, definitely not Labour's fault. It's not like they were in power or anything.[/p][/quote]Of course it was Labour's fault, after all, they invented credit derivatives, then went on a reckless debt fuelled gambling spree. The presidents of Lehmann Bros and Merril Lynch were clandestine members of the Labour party.[/p][/quote]Yes and as I have already said, Gordon saw this and tried to stop it but it was voted against by Cameron. Take your rose tinted glasses off it is not the fault of any one party, they all played a part in it.[/p][/quote]I was being sarcastic. Actually it was pretty much the fault of one party, the Tories. Thatcher and her billionaire puppet masters set the scene with the original deregulation during the 1980s, and making massive debt acceptable. Cameron and his cronies are now just mopping up the last of the cash tom.marlow2
  • Score: 2

9:58pm Sat 31 May 14

demoness the second says...

How have Dial a Ride managed to completely pinch the London Underground branding?
How have Dial a Ride managed to completely pinch the London Underground branding? demoness the second
  • Score: 1

7:09am Sun 1 Jun 14

sparky49 says...

demoness the second wrote:
How have Dial a Ride managed to completely pinch the London Underground branding?
dial operates in London and as such comes under TFL which has hijacked the roundel for many other services that fall under TFL.
[quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: How have Dial a Ride managed to completely pinch the London Underground branding?[/p][/quote]dial operates in London and as such comes under TFL which has hijacked the roundel for many other services that fall under TFL. sparky49
  • Score: 1

11:57am Sun 1 Jun 14

tom.marlow2 says...

sparky49 wrote:
demoness the second wrote:
How have Dial a Ride managed to completely pinch the London Underground branding?
dial operates in London and as such comes under TFL which has hijacked the roundel for many other services that fall under TFL.
And give TFL their due. The transport system in London is very well joined up. It mostly works very well
[quote][p][bold]sparky49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: How have Dial a Ride managed to completely pinch the London Underground branding?[/p][/quote]dial operates in London and as such comes under TFL which has hijacked the roundel for many other services that fall under TFL.[/p][/quote]And give TFL their due. The transport system in London is very well joined up. It mostly works very well tom.marlow2
  • Score: 1

5:07pm Tue 3 Jun 14

JOHNHEALY says...

Never mind the disgraceful act of cutting the funding for Dial A Ride what we want to do is significantly reduce the amount of money paid to the fat-cat councillors.
Never mind the disgraceful act of cutting the funding for Dial A Ride what we want to do is significantly reduce the amount of money paid to the fat-cat councillors. JOHNHEALY
  • Score: 1

5:07pm Tue 3 Jun 14

JOHNHEALY says...

Never mind the disgraceful act of cutting the funding for Dial A Ride what we want to do is significantly reduce the amount of money paid to the fat-cat councillors.
Never mind the disgraceful act of cutting the funding for Dial A Ride what we want to do is significantly reduce the amount of money paid to the fat-cat councillors. JOHNHEALY
  • Score: 1

1:46pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Routemaster40 says...

I was involved in setting up Wycombe Dial a Ride some 25 years ago and worked hard with an active committee raising funds and patronage which increased the fleet from one to six vehicles over 10 years. At that time there were no low-floor buses, a restricted number of taxis and private hire vehicles and NO free bus travel for pensioners and the disabled. We worked with industry and Councils to help meet the costs incurred which could not all be recouped from fares.
Today there is no active committee, no involvement from industry, no fund raising and a much reduced number of people using the Dial a Ride service.
Low floor buses now operate on all routes and many can take wheelchair users and there is FREE bus travel for pensioners and the disabled.. The number of taxis and private hire vehicles has increased dramatically and it is more convenient for many to travel this way as they can travel when they want SEVEN DAYS A WEEK unlike Dial a Ride which requires 48 hours notice to travel and operate Monday to Friday daytime only.

When Dial - a - Ride was set up the fare structure was similar to bus fares but now it is more comparable to Private Hire vehicles and for two travelling together it is often cheaper by Private Hire vehicles. No taxis etc could take disabled passengers 25 years ago but nowadays many can.

Times change as do peoples' aspirations and it is the Dial a Ride operation that needs to move into what people expect in the 21st century.
The losers could be those that need the Dial a Ride service the most and the Councils need to focus on how a better, more efficient service can meet their needs as they have to spend public money wisely whatever their political colour.
I was involved in setting up Wycombe Dial a Ride some 25 years ago and worked hard with an active committee raising funds and patronage which increased the fleet from one to six vehicles over 10 years. At that time there were no low-floor buses, a restricted number of taxis and private hire vehicles and NO free bus travel for pensioners and the disabled. We worked with industry and Councils to help meet the costs incurred which could not all be recouped from fares. Today there is no active committee, no involvement from industry, no fund raising and a much reduced number of people using the Dial a Ride service. Low floor buses now operate on all routes and many can take wheelchair users and there is FREE bus travel for pensioners and the disabled.. The number of taxis and private hire vehicles has increased dramatically and it is more convenient for many to travel this way as they can travel when they want SEVEN DAYS A WEEK unlike Dial a Ride which requires 48 hours notice to travel and operate Monday to Friday daytime only. When Dial - a - Ride was set up the fare structure was similar to bus fares but now it is more comparable to Private Hire vehicles and for two travelling together it is often cheaper by Private Hire vehicles. No taxis etc could take disabled passengers 25 years ago but nowadays many can. Times change as do peoples' aspirations and it is the Dial a Ride operation that needs to move into what people expect in the 21st century. The losers could be those that need the Dial a Ride service the most and the Councils need to focus on how a better, more efficient service can meet their needs as they have to spend public money wisely whatever their political colour. Routemaster40
  • Score: 0

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