Council accused of being 'mean spirited' after toilets closed for Beaconsfield Country Fayre

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A TOWN council has been accused of being ‘mean spirited’ after it was decided public toilets in Beaconsfield Old Town should be kept closed during the Country Fayre.

After no agreement was reached between the council and the fayre committee, the decision for them to remain closed was made.

To ensure provisions were met on-site portable toilets were maintained by the Beaconsfield Women’s Institute.

Deborah Sanders, president of the town’s WI, said: “I think we do have a toilet problem, when South Bucks District Council give a licence for the fayre and other such things they should ensure there is adequate toilets.

“Personally, I think it is very mean spirited of the town council not to open them to enhance this community event, like they should do.

“As I see it, we pay our precept to ensure we have the community facilities we need.”

However, council leader Alan Walters said after an incident two years ago, they needed funding for someone to maintain the facilities.

He said: “Up until two years ago the toilets were always left open, but they were trashed and they had to remain closed for the Tuesday market the following day.

“Last year the fayre committee agreed to pay a fee to ensure they were maintained, but they decided against that this year.

“We have always said if people are happy to maintain them on the day we are happy to have them open, but they told the council there were not enough volunteers to help.

“We are not statutorily obliged to provide toilet facilities but we are happy to work with the committee as long as an agreement is made in advance.”

Simon Woolf, of the fayre committee, said: “This year we had a couple of sponsors who gave us £750 in total as a general donation to cover the various expenses that came to around £750 and this included the cost of the portable toilets.”

He added because we only had part time volunteers we were not able to man the public toilets, and unfortunately we were not able to cover the cost of a contractor because we did not have enough sponsorship money.

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4:21pm Sat 30 Aug 14

I hate cats says...

In 2012 the toilets were apparently left in such a state that the contactors, charged with maintaining them, seemed unable to do their job and consequently they were shut on the following day for the Tuesday Market. For some reason I hear it took months after the event for the problem in 2012 to be mentioned and a demand was made that a charity event held for the local community would have to pay a contractor, rather than being asked to ensure the toilets would be left were left in a useable state at the end of the Fayre in 2013. It is a real shame when it comes to a point when a Town Council is not able to trust the organisers of a Country Fayre to ensure the toilets are left clean at the end of the day.
Last year I heard that a very publicly spirited gentleman was so incensed by the Council’s attitude that he gave £100 to ensure people could use the toilets. This year there was insufficient moneys left over from the sponsorships so generously donated by local businesses that a last minute plea was sent to each councillor to waive the need for a contractor and associated cost; with the exception of one Councillor, the request for help was ignored and consequently the toilets were closed.
Some say the council has become too entrenched with party politics and perhaps may have the air of being more interested in itself rather than the community is supposed to serve. Of course, you may think this, but I really cannot comment!
In 2012 the toilets were apparently left in such a state that the contactors, charged with maintaining them, seemed unable to do their job and consequently they were shut on the following day for the Tuesday Market. For some reason I hear it took months after the event for the problem in 2012 to be mentioned and a demand was made that a charity event held for the local community would have to pay a contractor, rather than being asked to ensure the toilets would be left were left in a useable state at the end of the Fayre in 2013. It is a real shame when it comes to a point when a Town Council is not able to trust the organisers of a Country Fayre to ensure the toilets are left clean at the end of the day. Last year I heard that a very publicly spirited gentleman was so incensed by the Council’s attitude that he gave £100 to ensure people could use the toilets. This year there was insufficient moneys left over from the sponsorships so generously donated by local businesses that a last minute plea was sent to each councillor to waive the need for a contractor and associated cost; with the exception of one Councillor, the request for help was ignored and consequently the toilets were closed. Some say the council has become too entrenched with party politics and perhaps may have the air of being more interested in itself rather than the community is supposed to serve. Of course, you may think this, but I really cannot comment! I hate cats
  • Score: 14

9:05pm Sat 30 Aug 14

tigger the campaigner says...

I hate cats wrote:
In 2012 the toilets were apparently left in such a state that the contactors, charged with maintaining them, seemed unable to do their job and consequently they were shut on the following day for the Tuesday Market. For some reason I hear it took months after the event for the problem in 2012 to be mentioned and a demand was made that a charity event held for the local community would have to pay a contractor, rather than being asked to ensure the toilets would be left were left in a useable state at the end of the Fayre in 2013. It is a real shame when it comes to a point when a Town Council is not able to trust the organisers of a Country Fayre to ensure the toilets are left clean at the end of the day.
Last year I heard that a very publicly spirited gentleman was so incensed by the Council’s attitude that he gave £100 to ensure people could use the toilets. This year there was insufficient moneys left over from the sponsorships so generously donated by local businesses that a last minute plea was sent to each councillor to waive the need for a contractor and associated cost; with the exception of one Councillor, the request for help was ignored and consequently the toilets were closed.
Some say the council has become too entrenched with party politics and perhaps may have the air of being more interested in itself rather than the community is supposed to serve. Of course, you may think this, but I really cannot comment!
ditto!
[quote][p][bold]I hate cats[/bold] wrote: In 2012 the toilets were apparently left in such a state that the contactors, charged with maintaining them, seemed unable to do their job and consequently they were shut on the following day for the Tuesday Market. For some reason I hear it took months after the event for the problem in 2012 to be mentioned and a demand was made that a charity event held for the local community would have to pay a contractor, rather than being asked to ensure the toilets would be left were left in a useable state at the end of the Fayre in 2013. It is a real shame when it comes to a point when a Town Council is not able to trust the organisers of a Country Fayre to ensure the toilets are left clean at the end of the day. Last year I heard that a very publicly spirited gentleman was so incensed by the Council’s attitude that he gave £100 to ensure people could use the toilets. This year there was insufficient moneys left over from the sponsorships so generously donated by local businesses that a last minute plea was sent to each councillor to waive the need for a contractor and associated cost; with the exception of one Councillor, the request for help was ignored and consequently the toilets were closed. Some say the council has become too entrenched with party politics and perhaps may have the air of being more interested in itself rather than the community is supposed to serve. Of course, you may think this, but I really cannot comment![/p][/quote]ditto! tigger the campaigner
  • Score: 11

7:38am Sun 31 Aug 14

SocialistSarah says...

Perhaps if the Fat Controller hadn't spent so much of the Beaconsfield Taxpayers money on a Tory jolly abroad, masquerading as a "Twinning Visit", there might have been sufficient funds in place to keep the Toilets open permanently, if not refurbish them entirely, given the amount that was wasted?!

I do have to question why residents of Beaconsfield do not hold this farce of a self-serving Tory Town Council to account - after all, it's THEIR money that gets wasted on schmoozing year on year, yet nobody challenges it.

The Fat Controller will spin it no doubt that "the 'forced' by-election took all the funds blah blah blah"......frankly, behind all the bunkum and Tory mantra, NONE of them are fit for Office!
Perhaps if the Fat Controller hadn't spent so much of the Beaconsfield Taxpayers money on a Tory jolly abroad, masquerading as a "Twinning Visit", there might have been sufficient funds in place to keep the Toilets open permanently, if not refurbish them entirely, given the amount that was wasted?! I do have to question why residents of Beaconsfield do not hold this farce of a self-serving Tory Town Council to account - after all, it's THEIR money that gets wasted on schmoozing year on year, yet nobody challenges it. The Fat Controller will spin it no doubt that "the 'forced' by-election took all the funds blah blah blah"......frankly, behind all the bunkum and Tory mantra, NONE of them are fit for Office! SocialistSarah
  • Score: 11

9:12am Sun 31 Aug 14

DACS12 says...

For the record the town council do not fund the Twinning Association or it's activities. The association do their own fund raising. Councillors always pay their own travel to LANGRES. The mayor of LANGRES pays for one nights hotel accommodation.
For the record the town council do not fund the Twinning Association or it's activities. The association do their own fund raising. Councillors always pay their own travel to LANGRES. The mayor of LANGRES pays for one nights hotel accommodation. DACS12
  • Score: -5

9:27am Sun 31 Aug 14

mistamina says...

I hate cats wrote:
In 2012 the toilets were apparently left in such a state that the contactors, charged with maintaining them, seemed unable to do their job and consequently they were shut on the following day for the Tuesday Market. For some reason I hear it took months after the event for the problem in 2012 to be mentioned and a demand was made that a charity event held for the local community would have to pay a contractor, rather than being asked to ensure the toilets would be left were left in a useable state at the end of the Fayre in 2013. It is a real shame when it comes to a point when a Town Council is not able to trust the organisers of a Country Fayre to ensure the toilets are left clean at the end of the day.
Last year I heard that a very publicly spirited gentleman was so incensed by the Council’s attitude that he gave £100 to ensure people could use the toilets. This year there was insufficient moneys left over from the sponsorships so generously donated by local businesses that a last minute plea was sent to each councillor to waive the need for a contractor and associated cost; with the exception of one Councillor, the request for help was ignored and consequently the toilets were closed.
Some say the council has become too entrenched with party politics and perhaps may have the air of being more interested in itself rather than the community is supposed to serve. Of course, you may think this, but I really cannot comment!
Nasty and money obsessed Party!
So basically the Council closed the toilet because a tax payer did not folk out another £100.00.
Such humbug, these people really need to do another job, not public service.
[quote][p][bold]I hate cats[/bold] wrote: In 2012 the toilets were apparently left in such a state that the contactors, charged with maintaining them, seemed unable to do their job and consequently they were shut on the following day for the Tuesday Market. For some reason I hear it took months after the event for the problem in 2012 to be mentioned and a demand was made that a charity event held for the local community would have to pay a contractor, rather than being asked to ensure the toilets would be left were left in a useable state at the end of the Fayre in 2013. It is a real shame when it comes to a point when a Town Council is not able to trust the organisers of a Country Fayre to ensure the toilets are left clean at the end of the day. Last year I heard that a very publicly spirited gentleman was so incensed by the Council’s attitude that he gave £100 to ensure people could use the toilets. This year there was insufficient moneys left over from the sponsorships so generously donated by local businesses that a last minute plea was sent to each councillor to waive the need for a contractor and associated cost; with the exception of one Councillor, the request for help was ignored and consequently the toilets were closed. Some say the council has become too entrenched with party politics and perhaps may have the air of being more interested in itself rather than the community is supposed to serve. Of course, you may think this, but I really cannot comment![/p][/quote]Nasty and money obsessed Party! So basically the Council closed the toilet because a tax payer did not folk out another £100.00. Such humbug, these people really need to do another job, not public service. mistamina
  • Score: 11

9:32am Sun 31 Aug 14

mistamina says...

SocialistSarah wrote:
Perhaps if the Fat Controller hadn't spent so much of the Beaconsfield Taxpayers money on a Tory jolly abroad, masquerading as a "Twinning Visit", there might have been sufficient funds in place to keep the Toilets open permanently, if not refurbish them entirely, given the amount that was wasted?!

I do have to question why residents of Beaconsfield do not hold this farce of a self-serving Tory Town Council to account - after all, it's THEIR money that gets wasted on schmoozing year on year, yet nobody challenges it.

The Fat Controller will spin it no doubt that "the 'forced' by-election took all the funds blah blah blah"......frankly, behind all the bunkum and Tory mantra, NONE of them are fit for Office!
Like your nom de guerre.
LOL, you will disturb the nice blue tinged folks of Bucks, you know.
[quote][p][bold]SocialistSarah[/bold] wrote: Perhaps if the Fat Controller hadn't spent so much of the Beaconsfield Taxpayers money on a Tory jolly abroad, masquerading as a "Twinning Visit", there might have been sufficient funds in place to keep the Toilets open permanently, if not refurbish them entirely, given the amount that was wasted?! I do have to question why residents of Beaconsfield do not hold this farce of a self-serving Tory Town Council to account - after all, it's THEIR money that gets wasted on schmoozing year on year, yet nobody challenges it. The Fat Controller will spin it no doubt that "the 'forced' by-election took all the funds blah blah blah"......frankly, behind all the bunkum and Tory mantra, NONE of them are fit for Office![/p][/quote]Like your nom de guerre. LOL, you will disturb the nice blue tinged folks of Bucks, you know. mistamina
  • Score: 6

11:42am Mon 1 Sep 14

Diane Forapea says...

Shame on the council, these are public toilets and should be open for the public, why do we pay our council taxes to councils that don't serve its residents? this was a public event and the toilets should not be closed. Mr Walters you have got this wrong and I think its stinks!
Shame on the council, these are public toilets and should be open for the public, why do we pay our council taxes to councils that don't serve its residents? this was a public event and the toilets should not be closed. Mr Walters you have got this wrong and I think its stinks! Diane Forapea
  • Score: 9

12:09pm Wed 3 Sep 14

mistamina says...

Diane Forapea wrote:
Shame on the council, these are public toilets and should be open for the public, why do we pay our council taxes to councils that don't serve its residents? this was a public event and the toilets should not be closed. Mr Walters you have got this wrong and I think its stinks!
and I think its stinks! :)
I wonder if they will get it?
[quote][p][bold]Diane Forapea[/bold] wrote: Shame on the council, these are public toilets and should be open for the public, why do we pay our council taxes to councils that don't serve its residents? this was a public event and the toilets should not be closed. Mr Walters you have got this wrong and I think its stinks![/p][/quote]and I think its stinks! :) I wonder if they will get it? mistamina
  • Score: 6

2:42pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Diane Forapea says...

I doubt it Mistamina and Mr Walters should make a public apology for his councils failure. No wonder there is voter apathy.
I doubt it Mistamina and Mr Walters should make a public apology for his councils failure. No wonder there is voter apathy. Diane Forapea
  • Score: 4

6:27pm Thu 4 Sep 14

mistamina says...

Diane Forapea wrote:
I doubt it Mistamina and Mr Walters should make a public apology for his councils failure. No wonder there is voter apathy.
Sorry, to sound like a broken old record. But it really is time for a shake up in our local politics.

(Sit down, UKIP. I do not mean you. You have done NOTHING in the almost 1.5 yrs you have councillors. Nothing! You are a disappointment!)
[quote][p][bold]Diane Forapea[/bold] wrote: I doubt it Mistamina and Mr Walters should make a public apology for his councils failure. No wonder there is voter apathy.[/p][/quote]Sorry, to sound like a broken old record. But it really is time for a shake up in our local politics. (Sit down, UKIP. I do not mean you. You have done NOTHING in the almost 1.5 yrs you have councillors. Nothing! You are a disappointment!) mistamina
  • Score: 2
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