Future of The Nags Head under discussion (From Bucks Free Press)
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Future of The Nags Head under discussion
5:33pm Tuesday 18th September 2012 in Freetime By Rebecca Cain
The Nags Head
THE future of the Nags Head is under discussion after a lengthy panel meeting regarding the licence following complaints from residents in the area about noise.
A Licensing Panel Hearing was held at the Wycombe District Council Chambers on Monday to discuss the future of the pub.
The complaints started in April after new tenants moved into the pub, following to a noise abatement notice being served on May 28.
The pub in London Road, which has a long history as a music venue and once had the likes of The Sex Pistols and The Who performing there, has been closed since August 3.
Control of Pollution Team at WDC, Jan Blackbee, said on a site visit to the pub in May the noise of the bass outside the pub was the worst she had heard in her 20-year-career.
Admiral Taverns, who own the pub, have since removed the Designated Premises Supervisor, Maria Paesano and her son, Marco Iorio, who were running the pub.
Resident Penny Hopper who lives opposite applied for a review of the licence on advice from the council, after problems with noise started when the tenants moved into the pub in April.
Ms Hopper said: "As it has been shown the problem did not arise until the new management came in. I never had a problem before. It was the type of music they were putting on."
She emphasised her problem was with the former tenant and the way they ran it rather than the pub itself, and she would like to see it continue as a music venue.
Police were called on April 28 to complaints of loud music with further complaints in May. And on May 18 a licensed premises inspection was carried out by a police licensing officer, Claire Turner, and WDC licensing officer, Brian Whittall.
At the hearing, Caroline Stevens, who was standing in for Mr Whittall who was ill, said the report from that evening said doors had been left open during the performance of live music and CCTV was not fully working.
She said the report also said it appeared that illegal drugs were being taken by people on the premises, under age drink sales seemed to be taking place and there appeared to be a lack of management.
Licensing panel member Cllr Alan Turner asked: “You mentioned on one specific occasion you felt drugs were being taken and referred to under age sales. How was that arrived at?”
Ms Stevens said the report was by Mr Whittall and Ms Turner and neither were at the panel hearing. She said: "From that point of view it is hearsay."
Ben Clarke, who has succeeded Claire Turner, said with regards to any action being taken it is a difficult case to prove and he said he is not sure where the allegation of drug taking has come from, so it was inappropriate for him to comment any further.
He said the reports of underage sales were unsubstantiated.
Ms Blackbee said they wrote to Ms Paesano and held a meeting.
She then attended the next event on May 26 at 10.10pm.
She said at the back of the pub there was loud bass coming from the building.
She said: "It was one of the worst cases I have witnessed in my career of 20 odd years."
Ms Blackbee said she met with Mr Iorio who arranged a meeting with the sound engineer but she said the equipment she was shown was not appropriate for recording the noise level.
She also set up sound recorders in neighbouring properties, which showed the level was too high.
She said with the previous landlord, there were two complaints in 2009 and then none again until he left in January 2012, where he received one complaint during his leaving party.
Walaiti Rathore, who was the solicitor representing the Nags Head, raised awareness to the online petition to Save The Nags Head which has around 500 signatures, he said.
He said: "The root of the alleged problems no longer exists. We have taken voluntary action to remove the alleged root of concern because nothing was actually proven against these people."
He said they have removed the former tenants from the property. He emphasised that although Admiral Taverns own the building the responsibility of running the premises lies with the tenants, but they must run it in accordance with their policy agreement.
He said he does not believe further conditions need to be applied as the root of the problem has been removed and they already have the abatement order hanging over them.
Business Development Manager Nicola Reeves said the pub was closed on August 3.
She said: "Subsequently two weeks later it (the electricity) was cut off due to it being bypassed by Mr Iorio."
She said they will be able to turn it back on, once the issues have been sorted out.
Ms Reeves later said: "I have been in the industry for 15 to 20 years as a manager. I have never come across anyone like Mr Iorio."
She said she even go to the point where she went around to his house to talk to him.
Suggestions of conditions put forward were no longer having any under 18 events and having a noise limitator installed which will be set at levels not to cause public nuisance. There was also the prospect of giving a direct line number to Admiral Taverns for residents in the area.
Chairman Bill Bendyshe-Brown, and panel members John Richards and Alan Turner will deliver a result within a week from the panel hearing on Monday.
Comments(22)
yog
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7:44pm Tue 18 Sep 12
fishyfingerz
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8:22pm Tue 18 Sep 12
the previous owner (the big hairy guy who rips people off) did destroy the place
Squidge
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8:37pm Tue 18 Sep 12
BennyBumBleed
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9:17pm Tue 18 Sep 12
WilliamsV10
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9:52pm Tue 18 Sep 12
fishyfingerz wrote:I'd lived opposite the Nags Head for 3 years before we started having problems with the pub. The previous Landlord was very considerate, and we never had a single problem. Then this 'Marco' moved in, and we had loud banging music from the Nags Head going onto 2am. I didn't complain, but I can see why people with children would.
why move net to a live music venue if you dont like noise?
the previous owner (the big hairy guy who rips people off) did destroy the place
townraider
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10:28pm Tue 18 Sep 12
WilliamsV10 wrote:Pub was there before you -- so move if you don't like the noise !!
fishyfingerz wrote:I'd lived opposite the Nags Head for 3 years before we started having problems with the pub. The previous Landlord was very considerate, and we never had a single problem. Then this 'Marco' moved in, and we had loud banging music from the Nags Head going onto 2am. I didn't complain, but I can see why people with children would.
why move net to a live music venue if you dont like noise?
the previous owner (the big hairy guy who rips people off) did destroy the place
WilliamsV10
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10:41pm Tue 18 Sep 12
townraider wrote:So if you have noisy neighbours move in next door, you would move?
WilliamsV10 wrote:Pub was there before you -- so move if you don't like the noise !!
fishyfingerz wrote:I'd lived opposite the Nags Head for 3 years before we started having problems with the pub. The previous Landlord was very considerate, and we never had a single problem. Then this 'Marco' moved in, and we had loud banging music from the Nags Head going onto 2am. I didn't complain, but I can see why people with children would.
why move net to a live music venue if you dont like noise?
the previous owner (the big hairy guy who rips people off) did destroy the place
mumbles26
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11:12pm Tue 18 Sep 12
Am I reading this incorrectly? This sentence doesn't make sense.
miccles
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9:42am Wed 19 Sep 12
yog wrote:Isn't it WDC's policy now, that if something is part of Wycombe's history, they close it and sell it off?
Yes. This music venue is part of Wycombe's history and was here long before the current crop of moaners.
Kania 2000
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12:31pm Wed 19 Sep 12
Kania 2000
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12:31pm Wed 19 Sep 12
chris740
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5:12pm Wed 19 Sep 12
townraider
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5:19pm Wed 19 Sep 12
chris740 wrote:Flats are a blight on the face of Wycombe
i think they should build flats there. stop all problems
YorksDavey
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7:14pm Wed 19 Sep 12
J B Blackett
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10:22pm Wed 19 Sep 12
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Now he's gone perhaps the music can now carry on without the unwanted fly in the ointment and without upsetting the neighbourhood.
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Could be a good outcome for everybody. Unfortunately at the moment the world appears to be full of self-interested noisy trouble-makers. But one less is good news.
Elmo
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8:19am Thu 20 Sep 12
Terry Skunt
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4:06pm Thu 20 Sep 12
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This Marco came in and kitted out the downstairs with a system that was too large and made no accommodation for the neighbors peace. Playing bassy music late at night with no respect will only cause grief and he seems to have ill regard for those around him.
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From this report it is clear that:
-Marco moved in whilst letting his other business in town fail (WAMA)
-He showed no respect for the neighboring community, of which the previous landlord Tom, went to great efforts to please.
-He apparently took it upon himself to by-pass the electricity meter or with effects compromise the safety of the electricity supply.
-Stole the CCTV equipment installed in the building, thus making it impossible to run a music venue within accordance of its license.
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Basically, the root issue it Marco, not the locals, not live music, and not the brewery. Their arms are tied on this, they have an asset that can no longer hold live music, or any entertainment.
MarcoIorio
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1:25pm Fri 21 Sep 12
So why a you people talka di cr@ppa about me?
Ok, maybe I play a di musica too loud, but it was a sooo good that I thoughta the neighbourso wanted to hear it!
Everybody maka mistaka. Nobody's perfetto. Ok?
I am notta bad boy. Infact, my mama, she say that I am a di besta bambino in a di whole world! (She cooka me di pasta and give me all her denaro.)
All these stories about a me are lies! I certainly didn't messa with no elettrico. Di ratties, they chew through di wires and I justa stuck 'em back in!
And underage drinking and drugsa!? Ripping di people off? You is a all a crazy!
Anyway, you people keep on talking di cr@ppa, but I won't be taking the rappa!
Nothing is ever my fault and it never will be.
Enough of this Wycombo place. I hadda enough!
Now I go to Bristolli to open uppa my new clubba. You are all a welcome to visit. I give a you entry gratis and a line of di coka on a di house! Bringa di kids!
Remember, di love a is all a you needa :)
Arrivederci,
Marco :) x
DaintyGoLightly
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1:56pm Fri 21 Sep 12
Flippy
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10:18pm Fri 21 Sep 12
kitschme
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4:54pm Sun 30 Sep 12
The Bucks Free Press were also advised of the reputation of Mr Iorio on the occasion of their publicising details of WAMA on its opening several years ago and were aware of police interest in both establishments - but failed to take the story further.
Accessing details of Mr Iorio on the internet makes for an interesting read as it appears to confirm something of the background referred to above - it also appears that many people came off worst in any encounter with Mr Iorio, specifically where money was involved.
I speak from some experience of this as I am aware of the ONE instance where Mr Iorio was forced to repay a substantial sum to an individual after a protracted County Court case found against him.
While the judgement did not guarentee repayment of what was owed, payment was eventually made - interestingly enough just prior to his taking over of the Nag's Head in 2011 and when the Court threatened him with imprisonment.
The fact of this repayment must be considered a first and should go down in the history books.
High Wycombe would be well rid of him.
motco says...
6:02pm Tue 18 Sep 12