16 key questions and answers about new 11+ exams

AS the new style 11+ exams are this evening revealed by the 13 grammar schools in Bucks, here is a list of key questions and answers they have compiled to address parents' queries.

 

 

1. Why do there have to be tests?

Buckinghamshire is a selective authority for secondary school admissions and the Department for Education (DfE) determined that the grammar schools should retain their selective status when they became academies. As a result there has to be an objective and independent way of determining which children are admitted to the grammar schools in the County. Externally set tests are therefore a way of ensuring that the admissions system is as fair as possible for all pupils.

2. How many tests will there be?

There will be two tests.

3. How long will each test take?

Each test will take about 45-50 minutes so that it can be taken within a normal lesson time.

4. Why are these tests different from the current tests?

The new tests reflect modern research into the nature of ability and the quite widely-held view that people have multiple abilities. It is therefore appropriate to the pupils to test their ability to think in a range of different contexts.

5. What do the tests assess?

The tests are tests of ability: they assess verbal ability, numerical ability and non-verbal ability. This enables children to demonstrate their abilities in a range of contexts and not just verbally as with the current tests.

6. Who is providing the tests?

The test provider was selected after a full tendering process undertaken by the grammar schools. The successful tenderer is CEM: The Centre for Evaluation and Monitoring at Durham University. CEM has a long and successful track record of developing tests for use in selection (for both independent and state schools) and for monitoring and analysing pupil progress (mainly in secondary schools).

7. When will the tests be taken?

The tests will be taken in September, probably during the second week of the month, although a definite test date has not yet been confirmed. This timetable is driven by the requirement of the government that pupils should know the outcomes of selective assessments before finalising their secondary school preferences at the end of October.

8. Will the tests be on separate days?

Both tests will probably be taken on the same day. CEM’s advice and experience is that this is both feasible within a primary school timetable and desirable in terms of reducing the stress on the children. They will, after all, be taking more than one SAT test on the same day towards the end of Year 6.

9. How will the tests be marked?

The two tests will be machine-marked. The tests will be in a multiple-choice format and the pupils will complete machine-readable answer sheets.

10. What allowances will be made for pupils with special needs?

Details of these allowances have still to be agreed with County officers but, for example, there will be the opportunity for pupils to be given up to 25% extra time, which is a standard allowance for some pupils with special needs, and large print versions will be available.

11. What will the qualifying mark be?

The 11+ tests do not have a pass mark. There is a qualifying score for admission to grammar school and that will remain at an age-standardised score of 121.

12. Will pupils be able to practise for the tests?

Yes. First, they will be given a leaflet familiarising them with the testing procedure, giving them some test-taking advice and giving them a few example questions. They will be able to take this home. Then, before taking the tests the pupils will be given two preparation papers each lasting about 25-30 minutes containing test items that mirror what they will find in the full tests. The purpose of this exercise is to give the pupils experience of test-taking conditions as well as giving them the opportunity to work through example test material. The preparation papers will not be marked or taken away from the school.

13. Why can’t parents see the preparation papers?

CEM does not publish any practice books of its types of tests and it wants circulation of test materials to be kept to a minimum so as to maintain the integrity and fairness of its tests. The grammar schools are responding to these concerns.

14. How can parents best help their children to prepare for the tests?

There are a number of things that parents can do to help their children. They can ensure that they have experience of working quietly on their own, uninterrupted by noise or distractions. They can ensure that they do any homework that is set. They can help their children to read with understanding, for example by asking them what certain words mean and what is happening in the passage or book that they are reading. They can encourage them to solve problems by themselves or to look up things for themselves.

15. How do you know these new tests are going to work?

As is their usual practice, CEM trials materials that are developed for its tests and, as part of this process, one of three sets of trials this year will be held in Buckinghamshire to ensure that the new tests are of the appropriate standard. It is proposed that about 1000 primary school pupils will take part in this trial later in the Spring term. The tests taken next September will of course comprise entirely new material.

16. Will primary schools be measured by their 11+ results?

No. All schools aim to give their pupils a thorough grounding in key skills and a broad introduction to areas of knowledge so that they are properly prepared for their later education whichever type of school they go to. Primary schools (like all schools) are measured by the quality of their teaching and learning.

Comments(18)

deecee01 says...
7:22pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Question 17.
Will parents still tutor the hell out of their kids from about Year 3 to enable them to pass the test?

deecee01 says...
10:16pm Wed 9 Jan 13

That will lead to more and more unhappy kids in the wrong school unable to cope with the pressure put upon them.

topiarygal says...
10:35pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Putting aside the tutoring parents and the children coming from independent schools, I struggle to see how a September date is more fair to those children who need the rigour of school term to get back in the mindset of learning after the summer holidays, i.e. those children who do not have parents who will spend time with them looking at school work over the holidays. I also understood that the current tests were sat on different days to allow the child to have an 'off day' or if wholey untutored to have a second chance at familiarising themselves with the exam. I struggle to see how this scheduling is more fair or less stressful for the less advantaged of our children.

ImpeturbableLawrence says...
12:24am Thu 10 Jan 13

1 Why do there have to be tests?
Buckinghamshire is a selective authority for secondary school admissions …

So obviously there it is – ‘Buckinghamshire is a selective authority’ so there have to be tests – I emailed Mike Appleyard last year asking why BCC supported selection and he replied: ‘The 11+ is still in use in Buckinghamshire because it has been supported by the public for many years. It is council policy …’

This is the reason ‘there have to be tests’.

If you think the 11+ is an absurdity and if your child has failed the 11+ then you are partly to blame if you vote Conservative – why the hell does the Bucks Conservative Party believe it would lose the next elections if it promised to abolish 11+ ‘selection’ – people vote for the party not the discredited exam?

ImpeturbableLawrence says...
12:27am Thu 10 Jan 13

The 11+ tests do not have a pass mark. There is a qualifying score for admission to grammar school and that will remain at an age-standardised score of 121.


What does that mean and does the amount of talent and successful answering to reach 121 vary from one year to the next depending on the number of ten year old ‘candidates’ or other factors?

ImpeturbableLawrence says...
12:28am Thu 10 Jan 13

('Not a pass mark - a qualifying score'?)

Buck999 says...
9:31am Thu 10 Jan 13

Remember, Bucks is not really that competitive. There are catchment areas. Other regions such as B'ham do not have catchment areas and the highest marks win a place, so it means parents simply cannot buy an expensive house next to a school and a child score 121. It is fairer for more able children.

Some people in Bucks think that all grammar schools are the same. If you look at league tables, this is clearly not true. Dr Challonors is probably the top performing grammar.

I suspect the next change will be to catchment areas. If schools are academies, they can set their own admission rules. They may want to attract the best students, which to them means the highest 11+ scores. So, the 121 qualifying mark may end in the future and each school will have it’s own minimum mark which changes every year. A pure competition.

This means a degree of fairness as places are not allocated on house prices. The downside is an increase in 11+ preparation.

Many Bucks people are shocked to hear many B’ham children do 1 to 2 hours preparation a night (many don’t get home work from school).

Then again in this years' Warwickshire CEM tests the maths was so difficult, the average score was just 25%.

I doubt the Bucks test will be so hard as people have to opt out, where other regions are opt in.

petedr says...
9:45am Thu 10 Jan 13

All you grammar school lovers have you never heard of 'talented and gifted' education? Upper schools need an expansion of this type of education. Someone who excells in english may not excell in maths but may be an excellent problem solver in the real world. What is the point of grammar schools when we all have such varying talents in different areas? A good talented and gifted program in all schools means that everybodys talents/gifts are recognised and everybody is stretched. There will always be kids who don't want to learn and disrupt the class for everyone else. The only point of grammar school is that this is less likely to happen. There is no completely fair answer to this problem we should be voting on whether the grammar academies should be allowed to extend their catchment areas out of county. I would vote No

Buck999 says...
10:02am Thu 10 Jan 13

Of course people in Bucks do not want to extend catchent areas as they want the schools (funded from national tax) to be for their own children. They would "cry" if they had to compete with those who prepared for 1-2 hours a day for the tests.

I favour a national Sats test for the basis of admission using English, Maths and Science - curriculum based.

If you google CEM1plus you will find a site with sample questions. Yet the maths questions shown are easier than what you would get in CEM tests in other regions. It is rather unfair as preparation is required to answer the questions. The average raw score in Warks maths was less than 25% in 2012 and the highest 50%!

gpn01 says...
1:53pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Buck999 wrote:
Of course people in Bucks do not want to extend catchent areas as they want the schools (funded from national tax) to be for their own children. They would "cry" if they had to compete with those who prepared for 1-2 hours a day for the tests. I favour a national Sats test for the basis of admission using English, Maths and Science - curriculum based. If you google CEM1plus you will find a site with sample questions. Yet the maths questions shown are easier than what you would get in CEM tests in other regions. It is rather unfair as preparation is required to answer the questions. The average raw score in Warks maths was less than 25% in 2012 and the highest 50%!
Can a raw score be expressed as a percentage ? Discuss...

Buck999 says...
2:16pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Raw scores are disclosed on application and if you scored 10/40 you scored 25% raw score. So the answer is yes.

Raw scores and standarised scores are different. The above percentages were based on raw scores.

The real question is do percentage calculations for standardised scores make sense.

ImpeturbableLawrence says...
2:25pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Buck999 wrote:
Raw scores are disclosed on application and if you scored 10/40 you scored 25% raw score. So the answer is yes.

Raw scores and standarised scores are different. The above percentages were based on raw scores.

The real question is do percentage calculations for standardised scores make sense.
That's clarified the whole issue.

ImpeturbableLawrence says...
2:28pm Thu 10 Jan 13

ImpeturbableLawrence wrote:
The 11+ tests do not have a pass mark. There is a qualifying score for admission to grammar school and that will remain at an age-standardised score of 121.


What does that mean and does the amount of talent and successful answering to reach 121 vary from one year to the next depending on the number of ten year old ‘candidates’ or other factors?
Can you clarify the answer to my question 'Bucks999'?

Or explain briefly the formula that explains how the figure of 121 is arrived at every year regardless.

ImpeturbableLawrence says...
2:29pm Thu 10 Jan 13

ImpeturbableLawrence wrote:
ImpeturbableLawrence wrote:
The 11+ tests do not have a pass mark. There is a qualifying score for admission to grammar school and that will remain at an age-standardised score of 121.


What does that mean and does the amount of talent and successful answering to reach 121 vary from one year to the next depending on the number of ten year old ‘candidates’ or other factors?
Can you clarify the answer to my question 'Bucks999'?

Or explain briefly the formula that explains how the figure of 121 is arrived at every year regardless.
That last bit should have read:

'Or explain briefly the formula that explains how the figure of 121 is arrived at every year regardless of the numbers of entrants and their success.'

Buck999 says...
5:36pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Usually, tests are standardised so that the average standardised score automatically comes out as 100, irrespective of the difficulty of the test and so it is easy to see whether a pupil is above or below the average. The measure of the spread of scores is called the 'standard deviation' and this is usually set to 15 for educational attainment and ability tests. This means that, for example, irrespective of the difficulty of the test, about 68 per cent of the pupils in the national sample will have a standardised score within 15 points of the average (between 85 and 115) and about 96 per cent will have a standardised score within two standard deviations (30 points) of the average (between 70 and 130). These examples come from a frequency distribution known a NORMAL DISTRIBUTION.

I am sure there will be some formula or fudge to ensure the qualifying mark is 121 to match the places available, so parents can compare results with previous years albeit a different test.

gpn01 says...
6:29pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Buck999 wrote:
Raw scores are disclosed on application and if you scored 10/40 you scored 25% raw score. So the answer is yes. Raw scores and standarised scores are different. The above percentages were based on raw scores. The real question is do percentage calculations for standardised scores make sense.
A raw score of 10/40 is a raw score. If you express it as a percentage then you must have processed it in some way (i.e. divide 10 by 40 and multiply the result by 100). Therefore 25% isn't a true 'raw' score. True you can then modify it (e.g. by adjusting it with standard deviation, etc.) and that's a processed (or standardized) score.

An interesting theme developing in this topic though is that the raw score of 121 isn't the hurdle to be overcome. Rather a standardized score of 121 is the "pass" mark.

tom.marlow2 says...
8:58pm Thu 10 Jan 13

I dont see how they can do anything other than standardise the scores to make the number of candidates achieving the qualifying score closely fit the number places available.

gpn01 says...
10:52pm Thu 10 Jan 13

I find myself increasing wound up by these FAQ's:

"4. Why are these tests different from the current tests?

The new tests reflect modern research into the nature of ability and the quite widely-held view that people have multiple abilities. It is therefore appropriate to the pupils to test their ability to think in a range of different contexts. ".

So they're based on "modern research"?. That means there's no historic evidence that they work. That might be ok in other situations but the long term effect on society could be massive.

"quite widely-held view"....so it's based on opinions not facts. There was once a widely held view that the World was flat!

"It is therefore appropriate to the pupils to test their ability to think in a range of different contexts.".

Many children (and adults) are truely excellent thinkers but are poor at articulating their thoughts. But the test is testing their ability to articluate thinking not to be able to demonstrate their thinking ability per se!

"5. What do the tests assess?

The tests are tests of ability: they assess verbal ability, numerical ability and non-verbal ability. This enables children to demonstrate their abilities in a range of contexts and not just verbally as with the current tests. "

So the tests aren't assessing thinking after all? And the tests are constrained to articulating thinking through a WRITTEN exam. So, what about creatives who could perhaps articulate best through building a model? or sculpting, painting, playing music, acting, etc. What about kids who can best demonstrate numeric ability and logic and reasoning through computer programming? What about those who are great at talking through concepts but not so good at writing them down? How much of Danny Boyle's thinking was articulated in written form during the Olympic 2012 opening ceremony?

Grrrrr!

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