Nine hour A&E wait for seriously ill man sparks probe

Nine hour A&E wait for seriously ill man sparks probe Nine hour A&E wait for seriously ill man sparks probe

A PROBE has been launched after a seriously ill man who needed a leg amputation had to wait nine hours in Accident and Emergency at Stoke Mandeville Hospital.

Paul Ryan, 72, who suffered with peripheral vascular disease, then died three days later in an ambulance on the way to hospital, prompting Wycome MP Steve Baker to demand answers from NHS chiefs.

His widow, Lyn Ryan, from Widmer End, has blasted the system, saying A&E was overwhelmed and could not cope - though she believes he may have died anyway due to the severity of his condition.

Mrs Ryan went to the hospital with her husband on January 25 and was told by a nurse that he would probably need an operation that day to remove his remaining leg. His other leg was amputated seven years ago.

They eventually saw the surgical registrar at 9.30pm, after nine hours, who confirmed the operation was needed and advised an MRI scan be taken.

The couple were sent home and told they would be called on Monday and progress would be rapid, Mrs Ryan said.

But the call never came, and when Mrs Ryan rang the hospital they had no record. She called 999, with her husband's condition worsening significantly by this point. The GP arrived at their house after morning surgery and referred him to SM as an emergency. But then they faced a two hour wait for the ambulance.

She said: "We set off for Stoke Mandeville and the paramedics were fantastic but Paul - with me by his side, thank goodness - died in the ambulance.

"The outcome probably wouldn't have been any different, although I was distraught at losing him I felt the system let us down. I'm not saying that Paul died because of it, because it wasn't but the treatment was not good. The system is wrong, something has gone terribly wrong, to have these terribly long waits."

She had read earlier that day in the BFP Jim Tanner's account of a seven hour wait at A&E.

Mrs Ryan said: "It was like Piccadilly Circus at Stoke Mandeville on the Friday; people everywhere not being dealt with. The staff are fantastic but just cannot cope with the demand."

Wycombe MP Steve Baker told her in a letter: "I am sorry that the NHS has let you down like this. We simply cannot go on with these incidents of delay, misdirection, critically poor administration and failure of care. I am now stepping up pressure on NHS managers and the Bucks Health Overview and Scrutiny Committee, who have provided altogether too little scrutiny and leadership in the circumstances. I am also taking legal advice on how prosecutions may be brought in the worst circumstances."

Scrutiny Committee chair Cllr Lin Hazell said: "I'm disappointed with his criticism."

Regarding, the changes that led to the Emergency Medical Centre at Wycombe being axed last year, she said: "We can only make decisions on the evidence provided.

With the financial pressures it was under it seemed like the only solution."

Buckinghamshire Healthcare NHS Trust is investigating and offered its condolences and apologies to Mrs Ryan and her family.

Statement from Neil Dardis, Chief Operating Officer and Deputy Chief Executive: "Our emergency services have been facing pressures typical to this time of year as we are treating a high number of very sick patients with winter related illnesses such as Norovirus and respiratory conditions.

"During this time we have seen an increase in the number of people attending our A&E department. We have been reminding people of other healthcare options available to them when they are unwell such as NHS Direct, local pharmacies and GP out of hours services. It is important that we continue to treat patients who are seriously or critically unwell as they need the services of a specialist A&E department.

"Development works to our A&E department at Stoke Mandeville Hospital are progressing well and a brand new refurbished resuscitation area was opened this week. Further new clinical space will be available by the end of the month as part of this development.

"At the end of 2012 we also opened a new cardiac and stroke receiving unit at Wycombe Hospital providing 24/7 specialist diagnosis and early treatment for patients who have a suspected cardiac or stroke condition. Patients arrive at the unit by ambulance or are referred by their GP. The unit is staffed by a specialist medical/nursing team who provide rapid assessment and investigation as soon as a patient arrives on the unit, which significantly enhances recovery for patients suffering from a cardiac or stroke episode."

Comments(18)

Flashheart says...
10:29am Mon 11 Mar 13

It's an absolute disgrace that this continues...

Find a way to get A&E back in Wycombe.

We're never, ever, going to use Stoke Mandeville... Wexham Park is 15 mins away. Different County, different NHS Trust, but only 15 mins away - and there are plenty of road options to get there, as opposed to 30 mins with just the A413

motco says...
11:39am Mon 11 Mar 13

It's hard to find a flaw in Flashheart's comment. The Bradenham Road is a nightmare at busy times, and the A4010 through Princes Risborough often stationery. How anyone with even half a brain could call this functional, I do not know.

motco says...
11:40am Mon 11 Mar 13

Stationary, not stationery, in case anyone was think there was a hold-up in the envelope department!

Amygirl says...
11:53am Mon 11 Mar 13

my thoughts with your family this is disgraceful for an NHS service. This is why our services is under investigation.
A friend of mine was ill so i took her to her GP, who advised her to go to A&E. Even her GP advised dont go to stoke. So we decided to go to John Ratcliffe. very good service seen so quickly and staff were amazing.
But it feels like people that live in wycombe and surrounding villages are forgotten. We need healthcare too, we pay our taxes we want care. People who come up with these ideas, to close wards must have private healthcare or dont live here. Well i hope you dont get ill in wycombe cause chances are you wouldn't get help for a long time.

OneArmJack says...
1:11pm Mon 11 Mar 13

I went to Wexham Park the last time I needed A&E. The hospital itself is fine but for any follow-up appointments you get stuck in the Berkshire NHS system. I had to go all the way to Ascot for an appointment.

Robert.M says...
1:25pm Mon 11 Mar 13

My thoughts and prayers are with this poor mans family.
Here we have yet another indictment of the non caring self opinionated, look after the rich and bugger the poor conservative goverment, AND they are letting more than 1 million more immigrants in from Romania and Bulgaria to claim benefits and burn up the NHS, Its about time we had a goverment that looked after the people who have paid their dues like poor Mr Ryan, he should never have had to suffer like this, I thinks Cameron and his super rich cohorts should go to grass roots and see what an absolute arse they are making of this country,and how the poor and elderly are suffering,It`s simple less immigrants, less burden on the NHS and Benefit system.
No inquires or apologies are going to bring poor Mr Ryan back or be of any help to his family.
Is there not one politician from any party going to stand and say enough is enough lets put British born people first and give them what they have paid for via NI Contributions A NHS THAT WORKS for those who have paid and charge those who have not, and re open Wycombe A&E

Darren Hayday says...
2:29pm Mon 11 Mar 13

The sooner that 'someone' makes the decision to get A&E back in Wycombe - the sooner that this nightmare is over.

I'm fed up as I'm sure everyone else is - with this situation that we're in.

Surely the PM would be able to overrule this?
Mind you ‘if’ he cared, I’m sure that he would have by now – but years on and nothing is changing and everyone suffers.

motco says...
2:46pm Mon 11 Mar 13

Err, wasn't the closure initiated under New Labour?

Voyeur says...
2:58pm Mon 11 Mar 13

I have been waiting for a referral to a NHS Centre of Excellence for over 4 weeks now. After following up every week to no avail, I have just found out the IT system that handles the consultant's dictation ans sends it to the typists had gone down and there is a major IT stuff up. I still don't have the referral but if I had not complained every week, they may never have discovered the IT system is not fit for purpose.

Anna Smith says...
3:07pm Mon 11 Mar 13

What an appalling situation! My thoughts are with Mr Ryan's family. I am happy to use Wycombe's MIU when appropriate, but if any of my family needed A & E, I'd go to Reading. Having worked in both trusts, I consider Royal Berks to be much better.

Darren Hayday says...
3:53pm Mon 11 Mar 13

motco wrote:
Err, wasn't the closure initiated under New Labour?
Err have we not since 2010 had another Government in power which isn't New Labour?.. surely someone in the UK would hold the trump card (a senior minister??) to bring back the A&E Department to Wycombe??

I'm sure that the agreement to close it wasn't written in blood.....

Scarletto says...
4:28pm Mon 11 Mar 13

The misery continues.
I suspect that almost every day there are long delays ans tales of woe and suffering as people wait longer and travel further to Stoke Mandeville. They're not al reported.
There's too much complacency. We need a massed march of residents to the health authority's public meetings. Trouble is most people are aware of potential problems if they get ill or injure themselves but only suffer when and if they have to go to S.Mandeville. They they get roused and angry.
What about a potentially huge petition organised by either Labour and/or the Lib Dems in the Wycombe or even South Bucks area?
The Conservatives have been strangely semi-silent on this crisis in our Bucks NHS.

Scarletto says...
4:31pm Mon 11 Mar 13

TOO MANY SPELLING ERRORS ETC IN MY 1st ATTEMPT. I TRY AGAIN.....
The misery continues.
I suspect that almost every day there are long delays and tales of woe and suffering as people wait longer and travel further to Stoke Mandeville. They're not all reported.
There's too much complacency. We need a massed march of residents to the health authority's public meetings. Trouble is most people are aware of potential problems if they get ill or injure themselves but only suffer when and if they have to go to S.Mandeville. Then they get roused and angry.
What about a potentially huge petition organised by either Labour and/or the Lib Dems in the Wycombe or even South Bucks area?
The Conservatives have been strangely semi-silent on this crisis in our Bucks NHS.

motco says...
5:34pm Mon 11 Mar 13

What does demonstrate is that the NHS is a leviathan that no government of any stripe can sort out without antagonising so many voters that it would spell disaster for their prospects of re-election. If government and opposition would work together in a mature fashion instead of constantly trying to score points off each other for their own political ends, it might be possible to introduce sensible measures that would go a long way towards a solution. They should, as should councillors, realise that they are the servants of the people, not their masters.

looper says...
5:43pm Mon 11 Mar 13

Err . As. I've said before people. The new C.S.R.U unit at Wycombe is fantastic . Don't want time wasters and regulars wasting precious staff time
Stoke are welcome to them!!!! what Wycombe really needs is a 24/7 mother,baby, child unit up to the ages of 16.
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HW1 says...
6:20am Tue 12 Mar 13

Can I draw attention to this excerpt from the BFP report above:-

Scrutiny Committee chair Cllr Lin Hazell said: "I'm disappointed with his criticism."

Regarding, the changes that led to the Emergency Medical Centre at Wycombe being axed last year, she said: "We can only make decisions on the evidence provided.

With the financial pressures it was under it seemed like the only solution."

So there you have it. The change was never about patient care but about saving money. Quite frankly NHS managers don't give a toss and at the end of the day they should be held responsible for their disgraceful decisions. A/E must be brought back to Wycombe and the sooner the better.

Robert.M says...
7:52am Tue 12 Mar 13

HW1 wrote:
Can I draw attention to this excerpt from the BFP report above:- Scrutiny Committee chair Cllr Lin Hazell said: "I'm disappointed with his criticism." Regarding, the changes that led to the Emergency Medical Centre at Wycombe being axed last year, she said: "We can only make decisions on the evidence provided. With the financial pressures it was under it seemed like the only solution." So there you have it. The change was never about patient care but about saving money. Quite frankly NHS managers don't give a toss and at the end of the day they should be held responsible for their disgraceful decisions. A/E must be brought back to Wycombe and the sooner the better.
OH how right you are,HW1, as long as there is enough to pay them their over inflated wages, and they keep Cameron and Clegg happy and their rich pals are looked after sod the rest of us.
How is this towns under staffed and with no A&E going to cope when we have the influx of benefit seeking no hopers from Romania and Bulgaria.
As long as the conservative richies are sat in their mansions crapping on us low life nothing will get done, they only look after themselves. Thats how things will stay

1wycombe says...
4:47pm Tue 12 Mar 13

poor man. i

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