Wycombe's Eden centre celebrates fifth birthday

7:05pm Wednesday 13th March 2013 in News By Simon Farr

Eden celebrates it's fifth birthday Eden celebrates it's fifth birthday

SHOPPERS and Eden workers formed the number five to celebrate the High Wycombe shopping centre’s fifth birthday.

About 50 workers and shoppers, lured in by Krispe Kreme doughnuts, gathered outside Eden’s flagship store House of Fraser to mark the shopping centre’s fifth anniversary today.

Goodie bags and vouchers were also handed out to lucky shopaholics – who were full of praise for the positive effect Eden has had on the town.

Mica Lisk, 22, said: “It’s brilliant, it has got everything I could possibly need and I pop in every day in my lunchbreak.

“I wasn’t here pre-Eden but I’m told Wycombe was run-down and this revitalised the town, so it has done great things.”

David Griffin, who has been manager of Shopmobility for 20 years, said his organisation has been able to help double the amount of people since its office moved into the shopping centre.

He said: “Eden has put Wycombe on the map, unfortunately the timing with the economic climate isn’t ideal, but it is still doing well and is a major success story.

“I remember this area [House of Fraser] was old office blocks and a dirty bus station in which the diesel fumes choked you.

“Now, it looks good, the car-parking has more than doubled and it has rejuvenated High Wycombe – it’s what we were lacking.”

Clare Podbieleski, shopping with mum June and three-year-old daughter Pollyanna Richards, said: “I moved here about that time and it was rubbish – but I like Eden, it's a good shopping centre.”

Thousands of people lined the streets as Brazilian dancers and a brass band performed at Eden’s firework-filled launch on March 13, 2008.

Cllr Lesley Clarke, who was Leader of Wycombe District Council at the time, opened the shopping centre and hailed its impact.

She said: “I think it has given a lot to the town and it is not just the retail side, we have a new bus station which was desperately needed, we have a cinema in the town centre – it has been a big plus for Wycombe.

“I think Eden is better than I thought it would be. Some of the other shopping centres are boiling hot and Eden was never meant to be an enclosed space. I think it’s really nice.

“And hopefully it will only get better. We were lucky in the sense it came just before the credit crunch, but obviously that has had an effect on its growth.

“Now we have to look at Frogmoor and the High Street, which will be part of the council’s Masterplan.”

Click here to view a picture gallery of five years of Eden.

Comments (29)

8:01pm Wed 13 Mar 13

ivor says...

It's been five years since it opened yet the rain still comes in through gaps in the roof, the lack of doors lets the wind blow through and some units have yet to open.
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There is no doubt the complex killed off the High Street and resulted in a multitude of 'To Let' boards hanging like albatrosses above some of the towns most historic buildings.
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We were better off before the monstrosity was built!
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Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “Your say” then “Blogs” links at the top of this page.
It's been five years since it opened yet the rain still comes in through gaps in the roof, the lack of doors lets the wind blow through and some units have yet to open. ~ There is no doubt the complex killed off the High Street and resulted in a multitude of 'To Let' boards hanging like albatrosses above some of the towns most historic buildings. ~ We were better off before the monstrosity was built! ~ Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “Your say” then “Blogs” links at the top of this page. ivor

9:10pm Wed 13 Mar 13

gpn01 says...

"Cllr Lesley Clarke, who was Leader of Wycombe District Council at the time, opened the shopping centre and hailed its impact. ". Indeed.....it's killed off the High Street and sent shopper to other centres which are under cover.
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Worrying also that she says "“I think Eden is better than I thought it would be. Some of the other shopping centres are boiling hot and Eden was never meant to be an enclosed space. I think it’s really nice. ". I can only presume that she's never visited the shopping centres at Uxbridge (air conditioned), Westfield (air conditioned), Reading Oracle (air conditioned). Which centres has she been too which are boiling???
"Cllr Lesley Clarke, who was Leader of Wycombe District Council at the time, opened the shopping centre and hailed its impact. ". Indeed.....it's killed off the High Street and sent shopper to other centres which are under cover. . Worrying also that she says "“I think Eden is better than I thought it would be. Some of the other shopping centres are boiling hot and Eden was never meant to be an enclosed space. I think it’s really nice. ". I can only presume that she's never visited the shopping centres at Uxbridge (air conditioned), Westfield (air conditioned), Reading Oracle (air conditioned). Which centres has she been too which are boiling??? gpn01

9:12pm Wed 13 Mar 13

ImpeturbableLawrence says...

Isn't that amazing? I wonder if those people in the photo realised they were standing in a group that- from above - formed the shape of a letter 'S'.

(Take no notice of igor - we were better off before the monstrosity was unleashed.)
Isn't that amazing? I wonder if those people in the photo realised they were standing in a group that- from above - formed the shape of a letter 'S'. (Take no notice of igor - we were better off before the monstrosity was unleashed.) ImpeturbableLawrence

9:18pm Wed 13 Mar 13

ivor says...

ImpeturbableLawrence wrote:
Isn't that amazing? I wonder if those people in the photo realised they were standing in a group that- from above - formed the shape of a letter 'S'.

(Take no notice of igor - we were better off before the monstrosity was unleashed.)
I can only think of one word beginning with the letter 'S' that could be used to describe the complex!
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Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “Your say” then “Blogs” links at the top of this page.
[quote][p][bold]ImpeturbableLawrence[/bold] wrote: Isn't that amazing? I wonder if those people in the photo realised they were standing in a group that- from above - formed the shape of a letter 'S'. (Take no notice of igor - we were better off before the monstrosity was unleashed.)[/p][/quote]I can only think of one word beginning with the letter 'S' that could be used to describe the complex! ~ Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “Your say” then “Blogs” links at the top of this page. ivor

9:23pm Wed 13 Mar 13

ivor says...

Just look at the picture accompanying this article, excluding those marking out the letter 'S' how many real shoppers are there? I could only count EIGHT! Hardly a busy centre is it?
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One can feel a blog coming on about this topic....
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Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “Your say” then “Blogs” links at the top of this page.
Just look at the picture accompanying this article, excluding those marking out the letter 'S' how many real shoppers are there? I could only count EIGHT! Hardly a busy centre is it? ~ One can feel a blog coming on about this topic.... ~ Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “Your say” then “Blogs” links at the top of this page. ivor

9:33pm Wed 13 Mar 13

ImpeturbableLawrence says...

Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “Your say” then “Blogs” links at the top of this page then click on 'Makepeace with Chess' - far better.
Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “Your say” then “Blogs” links at the top of this page then click on 'Makepeace with Chess' - far better. ImpeturbableLawrence

10:19pm Wed 13 Mar 13

BOOKERite says...

Very poor judgement by Lesley Clarke in choosing the design of the wind tunnel - if it was her choice?
Very poor judgement by Lesley Clarke in choosing the design of the wind tunnel - if it was her choice? BOOKERite

11:36pm Wed 13 Mar 13

ImpeturbableLawrence says...

ImpeturbableLawrence wrote:
Isn't that amazing? I wonder if those people in the photo realised they were standing in a group that- from above - formed the shape of a letter 'S'.

(Take no notice of igor - we were better off before the monstrosity was unleashed.)
(I mean ivor - before he was unleashed.)
[quote][p][bold]ImpeturbableLawrence[/bold] wrote: Isn't that amazing? I wonder if those people in the photo realised they were standing in a group that- from above - formed the shape of a letter 'S'. (Take no notice of igor - we were better off before the monstrosity was unleashed.)[/p][/quote](I mean ivor - before he was unleashed.) ImpeturbableLawrence

11:39pm Wed 13 Mar 13

ImpeturbableLawrence says...

BOOKERite wrote:
Very poor judgement by Lesley Clarke in choosing the design of the wind tunnel - if it was her choice?
I wonder if it was the choice of Steve Hayes.
[quote][p][bold]BOOKERite[/bold] wrote: Very poor judgement by Lesley Clarke in choosing the design of the wind tunnel - if it was her choice?[/p][/quote]I wonder if it was the choice of Steve Hayes. ImpeturbableLawrence

11:41pm Wed 13 Mar 13

ImpeturbableLawrence says...

June Podbieleski is wearing a COOL hat in the photo!
June Podbieleski is wearing a COOL hat in the photo! ImpeturbableLawrence

6:36am Thu 14 Mar 13

1wycombe says...

my friend use to have his own small shop in the old octagon bit the RATES killed him off. so he left and 5 other traders half of the OCTAGON is empty. wait till john lewis opens its fashion selection it be GOOD BYE TO HOUSE OF FRASER..
my friend use to have his own small shop in the old octagon bit the RATES killed him off. so he left and 5 other traders half of the OCTAGON is empty. wait till john lewis opens its fashion selection it be GOOD BYE TO HOUSE OF FRASER.. 1wycombe

8:26am Thu 14 Mar 13

demoness the second says...

1wycombe wrote:
my friend use to have his own small shop in the old octagon bit the RATES killed him off. so he left and 5 other traders half of the OCTAGON is empty. wait till john lewis opens its fashion selection it be GOOD BYE TO HOUSE OF FRASER..
Why?
Are John Lewis going to be cheaper than the House of Fraser then?
Will they have more of a selection?
Will there be other shops moving in around it as well?
[quote][p][bold]1wycombe[/bold] wrote: my friend use to have his own small shop in the old octagon bit the RATES killed him off. so he left and 5 other traders half of the OCTAGON is empty. wait till john lewis opens its fashion selection it be GOOD BYE TO HOUSE OF FRASER..[/p][/quote]Why? Are John Lewis going to be cheaper than the House of Fraser then? Will they have more of a selection? Will there be other shops moving in around it as well? demoness the second

8:54am Thu 14 Mar 13

1wycombe says...

john lewis have more selection of designer cloths at cheaper prices compare to house of fraser. and also it's free parking up john lewis.
john lewis have more selection of designer cloths at cheaper prices compare to house of fraser. and also it's free parking up john lewis. 1wycombe

9:03am Thu 14 Mar 13

gotanybiscuits? says...

demoness the second wrote:
1wycombe wrote:
my friend use to have his own small shop in the old octagon bit the RATES killed him off. so he left and 5 other traders half of the OCTAGON is empty. wait till john lewis opens its fashion selection it be GOOD BYE TO HOUSE OF FRASER..
Why?
Are John Lewis going to be cheaper than the House of Fraser then?
Will they have more of a selection?
Will there be other shops moving in around it as well?
Because I can drive right up to John Lewis door, & park there for free.
.
Simples.
[quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1wycombe[/bold] wrote: my friend use to have his own small shop in the old octagon bit the RATES killed him off. so he left and 5 other traders half of the OCTAGON is empty. wait till john lewis opens its fashion selection it be GOOD BYE TO HOUSE OF FRASER..[/p][/quote]Why? Are John Lewis going to be cheaper than the House of Fraser then? Will they have more of a selection? Will there be other shops moving in around it as well?[/p][/quote]Because I can drive right up to John Lewis door, & park there for free. . Simples. gotanybiscuits?

9:17am Thu 14 Mar 13

Garrob says...

Yes it's better than what was there before (the dark, dingy and sometimes scary bus station), but the variety of shops is poor, great if you are a fashion concious caffine addict who changes their phone every month. Me, I just use Tesco's, M&S and the bus station, all of which we had before. Also great if you like getting dripped on, rained on or blown about, enjoy
Yes it's better than what was there before (the dark, dingy and sometimes scary bus station), but the variety of shops is poor, great if you are a fashion concious caffine addict who changes their phone every month. Me, I just use Tesco's, M&S and the bus station, all of which we had before. Also great if you like getting dripped on, rained on or blown about, enjoy Garrob

10:04am Thu 14 Mar 13

Ivor'sbestfriend says...

Garrob wrote:
Yes it's better than what was there before (the dark, dingy and sometimes scary bus station), but the variety of shops is poor, great if you are a fashion concious caffine addict who changes their phone every month. Me, I just use Tesco's, M&S and the bus station, all of which we had before. Also great if you like getting dripped on, rained on or blown about, enjoy
*Waits for Ivor to praise the wonderful design of the old bus station*.
[quote][p][bold]Garrob[/bold] wrote: Yes it's better than what was there before (the dark, dingy and sometimes scary bus station), but the variety of shops is poor, great if you are a fashion concious caffine addict who changes their phone every month. Me, I just use Tesco's, M&S and the bus station, all of which we had before. Also great if you like getting dripped on, rained on or blown about, enjoy[/p][/quote]*Waits for Ivor to praise the wonderful design of the old bus station*. Ivor'sbestfriend

10:47am Thu 14 Mar 13

johnmfritz says...

The shutting of Eden would cause more celebrations in my case!
The shutting of Eden would cause more celebrations in my case! johnmfritz

10:52am Thu 14 Mar 13

demoness the second says...

gotanybiscuits? wrote:
demoness the second wrote:
1wycombe wrote:
my friend use to have his own small shop in the old octagon bit the RATES killed him off. so he left and 5 other traders half of the OCTAGON is empty. wait till john lewis opens its fashion selection it be GOOD BYE TO HOUSE OF FRASER..
Why?
Are John Lewis going to be cheaper than the House of Fraser then?
Will they have more of a selection?
Will there be other shops moving in around it as well?
Because I can drive right up to John Lewis door, & park there for free.
.
Simples.
Well personally I think that it is a horrible place full of rude women who drive 4x4s and people who are basically snobs that like to boast they bought things from "John Lewis" because to them it indicates that they are somehow higher up on the social spectrum.
I loathe the place - the car park is awful.
[quote][p][bold]gotanybiscuits?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1wycombe[/bold] wrote: my friend use to have his own small shop in the old octagon bit the RATES killed him off. so he left and 5 other traders half of the OCTAGON is empty. wait till john lewis opens its fashion selection it be GOOD BYE TO HOUSE OF FRASER..[/p][/quote]Why? Are John Lewis going to be cheaper than the House of Fraser then? Will they have more of a selection? Will there be other shops moving in around it as well?[/p][/quote]Because I can drive right up to John Lewis door, & park there for free. . Simples.[/p][/quote]Well personally I think that it is a horrible place full of rude women who drive 4x4s and people who are basically snobs that like to boast they bought things from "John Lewis" because to them it indicates that they are somehow higher up on the social spectrum. I loathe the place - the car park is awful. demoness the second

12:16pm Thu 14 Mar 13

bennyfromtheblock says...

demoness the second wrote:
gotanybiscuits? wrote:
demoness the second wrote:
1wycombe wrote:
my friend use to have his own small shop in the old octagon bit the RATES killed him off. so he left and 5 other traders half of the OCTAGON is empty. wait till john lewis opens its fashion selection it be GOOD BYE TO HOUSE OF FRASER..
Why?
Are John Lewis going to be cheaper than the House of Fraser then?
Will they have more of a selection?
Will there be other shops moving in around it as well?
Because I can drive right up to John Lewis door, & park there for free.
.
Simples.
Well personally I think that it is a horrible place full of rude women who drive 4x4s and people who are basically snobs that like to boast they bought things from "John Lewis" because to them it indicates that they are somehow higher up on the social spectrum.
I loathe the place - the car park is awful.
AGREED!
[quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gotanybiscuits?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1wycombe[/bold] wrote: my friend use to have his own small shop in the old octagon bit the RATES killed him off. so he left and 5 other traders half of the OCTAGON is empty. wait till john lewis opens its fashion selection it be GOOD BYE TO HOUSE OF FRASER..[/p][/quote]Why? Are John Lewis going to be cheaper than the House of Fraser then? Will they have more of a selection? Will there be other shops moving in around it as well?[/p][/quote]Because I can drive right up to John Lewis door, & park there for free. . Simples.[/p][/quote]Well personally I think that it is a horrible place full of rude women who drive 4x4s and people who are basically snobs that like to boast they bought things from "John Lewis" because to them it indicates that they are somehow higher up on the social spectrum. I loathe the place - the car park is awful.[/p][/quote]AGREED! bennyfromtheblock

3:55pm Thu 14 Mar 13

readerabc says...

i dont use eden- wilkos, primark, market and sometimes tesco

i dont want to buy new clothes and change my mobile evey week- i can't afford to !!
i dont use eden- wilkos, primark, market and sometimes tesco i dont want to buy new clothes and change my mobile evey week- i can't afford to !! readerabc

4:37pm Thu 14 Mar 13

gotanybiscuits? says...

demoness the second wrote:
gotanybiscuits? wrote:
demoness the second wrote:
1wycombe wrote:
my friend use to have his own small shop in the old octagon bit the RATES killed him off. so he left and 5 other traders half of the OCTAGON is empty. wait till john lewis opens its fashion selection it be GOOD BYE TO HOUSE OF FRASER..
Why?
Are John Lewis going to be cheaper than the House of Fraser then?
Will they have more of a selection?
Will there be other shops moving in around it as well?
Because I can drive right up to John Lewis door, & park there for free.
.
Simples.
Well personally I think that it is a horrible place full of rude women who drive 4x4s and people who are basically snobs that like to boast they bought things from "John Lewis" because to them it indicates that they are somehow higher up on the social spectrum.
I loathe the place - the car park is awful.
dts: I agree totally!
I was merely stating the obvious reason for not visiting the hateful town centre.
John Lewis is convenient & readily accessible without penalty charges.
If you have half a day to waste, & don't mind the cost, inconvenience, etc., of going to HW, then carry on doing so.
It does not suit me.
[quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gotanybiscuits?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1wycombe[/bold] wrote: my friend use to have his own small shop in the old octagon bit the RATES killed him off. so he left and 5 other traders half of the OCTAGON is empty. wait till john lewis opens its fashion selection it be GOOD BYE TO HOUSE OF FRASER..[/p][/quote]Why? Are John Lewis going to be cheaper than the House of Fraser then? Will they have more of a selection? Will there be other shops moving in around it as well?[/p][/quote]Because I can drive right up to John Lewis door, & park there for free. . Simples.[/p][/quote]Well personally I think that it is a horrible place full of rude women who drive 4x4s and people who are basically snobs that like to boast they bought things from "John Lewis" because to them it indicates that they are somehow higher up on the social spectrum. I loathe the place - the car park is awful.[/p][/quote]dts: I agree totally! I was merely stating the obvious reason for not visiting the hateful town centre. John Lewis is convenient & readily accessible without penalty charges. If you have half a day to waste, & don't mind the cost, inconvenience, etc., of going to HW, then carry on doing so. It does not suit me. gotanybiscuits?

5:20pm Thu 14 Mar 13

1wycombe says...

johnmfritz wrote:
The shutting of Eden would cause more celebrations in my case!
not a bad idea it will stop the stabbings and car park jumpers. EDEN is well known for that..
[quote][p][bold]johnmfritz[/bold] wrote: The shutting of Eden would cause more celebrations in my case![/p][/quote]not a bad idea it will stop the stabbings and car park jumpers. EDEN is well known for that.. 1wycombe

8:05pm Thu 14 Mar 13

buser says...

Big feet as usual! Severely physically disabled, all I can say is, 'I love John Lewis'! They are very kind and helpful, if it is raining/ blowing a gale, I telephone in from my car and bless, someone will come out, get my trolley and walk me in. I do apologise for the 4x4, if I could actually get into a smaller car and fit wheelchair, walking trolley etc. in, plus drive it safely, I really would, for me it isn't a status symbol or a posing machine, it is my legs and my bit of independence.

Eden is lovely, lots of nice shops, but I hate the car park and for me personally, it is not very accessible, my problem, not the shopping centres fault, and in bad weather, it is jolly hard work!
Big feet as usual! Severely physically disabled, all I can say is, 'I love John Lewis'! They are very kind and helpful, if it is raining/ blowing a gale, I telephone in from my car and bless, someone will come out, get my trolley and walk me in. I do apologise for the 4x4, if I could actually get into a smaller car and fit wheelchair, walking trolley etc. in, plus drive it safely, I really would, for me it isn't a status symbol or a posing machine, it is my legs and my bit of independence. Eden is lovely, lots of nice shops, but I hate the car park and for me personally, it is not very accessible, my problem, not the shopping centres fault, and in bad weather, it is jolly hard work! buser

9:10pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Bounty8 says...

Eden and Wycombe would be improved without the hideous eye sore that is Tesco. Sadly Wycombe looks drap and dated as all the good work is hidden behind that Tesco store. It wouldn't be so bad if they bothered to up-date the store inside.
Think Tesco rules WDC...
Eden and Wycombe would be improved without the hideous eye sore that is Tesco. Sadly Wycombe looks drap and dated as all the good work is hidden behind that Tesco store. It wouldn't be so bad if they bothered to up-date the store inside. Think Tesco rules WDC... Bounty8

9:35pm Thu 14 Mar 13

buser says...

Tesco Store should have definitely been redeveloped along with the disgusting old bus station and the whinging, moaning, blogger, who writes so many blogs against Eden. Pity he can't be 'redeveloped' too!
Tesco Store should have definitely been redeveloped along with the disgusting old bus station and the whinging, moaning, blogger, who writes so many blogs against Eden. Pity he can't be 'redeveloped' too! buser

10:46pm Thu 14 Mar 13

demoness the second says...

buser wrote:
Big feet as usual! Severely physically disabled, all I can say is, 'I love John Lewis'! They are very kind and helpful, if it is raining/ blowing a gale, I telephone in from my car and bless, someone will come out, get my trolley and walk me in. I do apologise for the 4x4, if I could actually get into a smaller car and fit wheelchair, walking trolley etc. in, plus drive it safely, I really would, for me it isn't a status symbol or a posing machine, it is my legs and my bit of independence.

Eden is lovely, lots of nice shops, but I hate the car park and for me personally, it is not very accessible, my problem, not the shopping centres fault, and in bad weather, it is jolly hard work!
Sorry Buser - the 4x4 remark was not aimed at you. There is definitely a place for them.. but not all people who drive them need them and do it to "keep up with the Joneses IMO"
I still hate JL though :D
[quote][p][bold]buser[/bold] wrote: Big feet as usual! Severely physically disabled, all I can say is, 'I love John Lewis'! They are very kind and helpful, if it is raining/ blowing a gale, I telephone in from my car and bless, someone will come out, get my trolley and walk me in. I do apologise for the 4x4, if I could actually get into a smaller car and fit wheelchair, walking trolley etc. in, plus drive it safely, I really would, for me it isn't a status symbol or a posing machine, it is my legs and my bit of independence. Eden is lovely, lots of nice shops, but I hate the car park and for me personally, it is not very accessible, my problem, not the shopping centres fault, and in bad weather, it is jolly hard work![/p][/quote]Sorry Buser - the 4x4 remark was not aimed at you. There is definitely a place for them.. but not all people who drive them need them and do it to "keep up with the Joneses IMO" I still hate JL though :D demoness the second

11:23pm Thu 14 Mar 13

ImpeturbableLawrence says...

Ivor'sbestfriend wrote:
Garrob wrote:
Yes it's better than what was there before (the dark, dingy and sometimes scary bus station), but the variety of shops is poor, great if you are a fashion concious caffine addict who changes their phone every month. Me, I just use Tesco's, M&S and the bus station, all of which we had before. Also great if you like getting dripped on, rained on or blown about, enjoy
*Waits for Ivor to praise the wonderful design of the old bus station*.
He’s praised it in his latest blog - so silly, hackneyed, and predictable.
[quote][p][bold]Ivor'sbestfriend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Garrob[/bold] wrote: Yes it's better than what was there before (the dark, dingy and sometimes scary bus station), but the variety of shops is poor, great if you are a fashion concious caffine addict who changes their phone every month. Me, I just use Tesco's, M&S and the bus station, all of which we had before. Also great if you like getting dripped on, rained on or blown about, enjoy[/p][/quote]*Waits for Ivor to praise the wonderful design of the old bus station*.[/p][/quote]He’s praised it in his latest blog - so silly, hackneyed, and predictable. ImpeturbableLawrence

8:24am Fri 15 Mar 13

Elmo says...

All I know is the Eden signified the end of Uncles student burger. It's why I moved to Sunderland.
All I know is the Eden signified the end of Uncles student burger. It's why I moved to Sunderland. Elmo

11:19am Fri 15 Mar 13

ImpeturbableLawrence says...

Elmo wrote:
All I know is the Eden signified the end of Uncles student burger. It's why I moved to Sunderland.
I moved to New Zealand because of the decimalisation of the coinage (see: http://www.bucksfree
press.co.uk/yoursay/
opinion/blogs/885490
1.Remembering_D_Day/
)

(I came back again. )
[quote][p][bold]Elmo[/bold] wrote: All I know is the Eden signified the end of Uncles student burger. It's why I moved to Sunderland.[/p][/quote]I moved to New Zealand because of the decimalisation of the coinage (see: http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/yoursay/ opinion/blogs/885490 1.Remembering_D_Day/ ) (I came back again. ) ImpeturbableLawrence

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