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MP: NHS chief threatened me with legal action over corporate manslaughter claim
5:26pm Thursday 14th March 2013 in News By James Nadal
MP: NHS chief threatened me with legal action over corporate manslaughter claim
WYCOMBE MP Steve Baker told the House of Commons this afternoon that an NHS boss has threatened him with legal action.
Mr Baker said he got the warning after he raised the prospect that the trust in charge of Bucks' hospitals may be liable for corporate manslaughter.
He revealed he has sought legal advice about taking the health trust to court and cited two recent cases.
But NHS chiefs have reacted with shock at his actions.
See Mr Baker's statement to the Commons via this link HERE. His speech can be seen from after 15:25.
Edward Maitland died from respirational pneumonia at Wycombe Hospital as a result of being fed solids when he should not have been, an inquest found. Paul Ryan, who needed a leg amputation, faced a nine hour A&E wait at Stoke Mandeville in January and died a few days later, succumbing to peripheral vascular disease.
He said of the lawyers' advice to him regarding Mr Maitland: "They explained that in this case it may, at the preliminary stage, it may be that there is a case to answer for corporate manslaughter and liability for gross negligence manslaughter may well be attributable to one or more individual employees at the hospital.
"I don't want people to be prosecuted unnecessarily, I don't want to see taxpayers money wasted, but I want to see accountability. I believe that in the end courts provide that crucial accountability.
"I believe the court should be the ultimate way of sanctioning the NHS."
A recent Government report agrees, he said.
Wycombe Superintendent Gilbert Houlla has been briefed and the family has been passed the details of the lawyer's opinion.
He explained the case of Mr Ryan to MPs after his story was in last week's BFP.
Mr Baker told the commons: "Unfortunately this plays right into the publics fear. In Wycombe we lost A&E in 2005, we've recently lost our Emergency Medical Centre.
"We've just had two very similar repeat occurrences of the minor injuries unit failing to refer people across the car park to the excellent cardiovascular and stroke unit.
"We've had an enormous range of little problems. The little 85 year-old lady with dementia sent home at 2am in just her hospital gown. This cannot go on.
"The public's concerns are justified."
Then, Mr Baker launched an attack on management of the hospitals.
He said: "Finally I make a point on transparency. Yesterday I spoke to Anne Eden, the chief executive of the hospitals' trust and I'm not going to put on record the whole content of the conversation.
"But when I said I intended to raise this issue of corporate manslaughter, admittedly on the radio this morning, I was told in turn that to protect the reputation of the Bucks trust legal action would be sought.
"This is a matter of public interest raised by an MP in good faith. To be fair she was talking about radio. But I've had to rely on privilege to protect myself from being sued on this matter. It's not acceptable that such a matter should have to come to a MP to rely on privilege.
"It really is time for proper accountability and that must includes the court."
Bucks Healthcare NHS Trust has released the following statement.
It read: "“Buckinghamshire Healthcare NHS Trust is saddened and shocked by Steve Baker’s comments in the House today.
"We have strived to have an open and honest dialogue with all our MPs over recent years and are sorry if Steve does not feel that this has been the case and has used parliamentary privilege as a means to raise his concerns.
"We strongly encourage Steve or any other individual to contact us directly with any concerns, particularly those referred to today in the House, as we continuously strive to offer the best quality of care to our patients.”
Comments(18)
geoffW
says...
7:08pm Thu 14 Mar 13
One way to save money in the Health Service is to get rid of the plethora of different agencies and suits who just justify their own existence by making work for themselves.
Sorry, Anne (and the many "suits" like you):
I do not believe you are justify your salary.
I do not believe that you do a good job.
I do not believe that you care enough about people or patients.
geoffW
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7:10pm Thu 14 Mar 13
I do not believe that you care enough about the staff at the sharp end.
bucks boy
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8:14pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Does this not prove that Anne Eden and her board are GUILTY of the accusations levied against her and the Buckinghamshire Trust has total substance.
Time and time again she as CEO of the Trust have let us the people of Buckinghamshire down, she and her mismanagement are now under investigation. The quicker she is given the boot together with the rest of the board that prop up this failing Trust the better for us all.
I am reminded of a KING many years ago who said “Will no one rid us of this un-accountable Anne Eden the CEO” of Buckinghamshire’s failing Trust
I predict that she will get a large pay off when she finally gets the sack, funded by taxpayer’s money.
IT WILL BE WORTH IT!
Go ahead Steve Baker and accuse her of overseeing Corporate Manslaughter during her watch. Anne Eden does not have a leg to stand on.
I would finally point out that under Anne Edens watch the Trust have since 2008 attempted to obtain Foundation Status, Anne Eden has FAILED with every application and the last application has been suspended at her request, because they have no hope of approval and they do not want the record to show another rejection.
ChilternsBlue
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10:55pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Tom Jones
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10:58pm Thu 14 Mar 13
demoness the second
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7:06am Fri 15 Mar 13
washondo
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7:37am Fri 15 Mar 13
demoness the second wrote:Must there always be an ulterior motive?
And stop scapegoating the wrong people Mr Baker. I wonder what your real agenda is here.
~
Perhaps he's finally found out what he was elected for.
JoeBlogs321
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11:01am Fri 15 Mar 13
washondo wrote:Nice comment.
demoness the second wrote:Must there always be an ulterior motive?
And stop scapegoating the wrong people Mr Baker. I wonder what your real agenda is here.
~
Perhaps he's finally found out what he was elected for.
Kiwipuss
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11:11am Fri 15 Mar 13
Rowratty
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12:28pm Fri 15 Mar 13
I would make a comment but would be instantly threatened with legal action if I dare mention a matter that should be in the Public Interest.
sparky49
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2:15pm Fri 15 Mar 13
demoness the second wrote:I would assume the real agenda is to focus on corporate manslaughter which in turn takes attention away from the real agenda of total privatisation.
And stop scapegoating the wrong people Mr Baker. I wonder what your real agenda is here.
It was Mr Blairs government who in opposition along with Prescott's support tabled the new law. It was one of the first things that they did, however even after Potters Bar and the Yorkshire train disasters not one person has ever been convicted of corporate manslaughter.
s6blr
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6:25pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Our son is currently in hospital in Hillingdon, who are doing an absolutely appalling job of sorting his health out. Perhaps Mr. Baker's actions and stance will inspire the MP for Hillingdon to take them on!
Good on you Steve!
Marlow traveller
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8:40am Sat 16 Mar 13
Robert.M
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7:56am Mon 18 Mar 13
He is nothing more than a laughing stock, lining his already well lined pockets.
If he really cared about us he would never had let the closure of the main parts of Wycombe hospital close.
bucks boy
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9:20am Mon 18 Mar 13
You should be venting your spleen at Anne Eden the CEO of the Hospital Trust, she and the PCT are the culprits for the closures. Get your facts and statements right as you are only making yourself look silly.
Robert.M
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2:54pm Mon 18 Mar 13
bucks boy wrote:Maybe if Mr Baker had fought harder before the closures at WGH instead of trying to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, more people would have sympathy for him.
Are you on this planet Robert M? Why should Steve Baker be taken to court for impersonation, He is an MP and, he cares about his constituents. He has fought for the reopening of services at High Wycombe, He has also raised it Many times in the House of commons. He has even had meetings with the previous Health Secretary. That you should accuse him of lining his pocket, where is your proof for such a stupid statement? You should be venting your spleen at Anne Eden the CEO of the Hospital Trust, she and the PCT are the culprits for the closures. Get your facts and statements right as you are only making yourself look silly.
I personally do not like him,what his party stand for, or any of the conservative policies.
As for making stupid statements we are all entitled to our opinions, such as yours.
rjpastaw
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9:23am Mon 1 Apr 13
Robert.M wrote:That reads suspiciously like a labour party hack posting? -
bucks boy wrote:Maybe if Mr Baker had fought harder before the closures at WGH instead of trying to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, more people would have sympathy for him.
Are you on this planet Robert M? Why should Steve Baker be taken to court for impersonation, He is an MP and, he cares about his constituents. He has fought for the reopening of services at High Wycombe, He has also raised it Many times in the House of commons. He has even had meetings with the previous Health Secretary. That you should accuse him of lining his pocket, where is your proof for such a stupid statement? You should be venting your spleen at Anne Eden the CEO of the Hospital Trust, she and the PCT are the culprits for the closures. Get your facts and statements right as you are only making yourself look silly.
I personally do not like him,what his party stand for, or any of the conservative policies.
As for making stupid statements we are all entitled to our opinions, such as yours.
Steve Baker has consistently worked hard for Wycombe people especially
in his opposiiton to the changes in local health provision.
This coalition may not be perfect but they have been handed a poisoned chalice by the legacies of tony "evil eyes" blair - gordon "bigot" brown and the labour regimes of 1997-2010 - and the current nhs woes are just a part of their twisted legacy of failure and deceit.
Darren Hayday says...
7:00pm Thu 14 Mar 13
It's terrible that they are able to get away with this!