Beaconsfield MP: gay marriage bill 'badly conceived'

Beaconsfield MP: gay marriage bill 'badly conceived'

Beaconsfield MP: gay marriage bill 'badly conceived'

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THE Government's highly contentious same-sex marriage bill, which was passed by MPs this week, has been 'badly conceived', the Attorney General says.

Dominic Grieve, the Beaconsfield MP, abstained from the main vote in the House of Commons on Tuesday evening, as did Wycombe MP Steve Baker.

Cheryl Gillan, the Amersham and Chesham MP, and David Lidington, the Aylesbury MP voted against. Theresa May, Cookham's MP, voted in favour.

It was carried through despite 161 MPs voting against it.

Mr Grieve, who represents Marlow, said: "I have explained to my constituents that I think the legislation, while I can understand its intentions, was badly conceived. I would have done something entirely different.

"If you want to create equality then I actually think that I would pull the state out of civil marriage altogether and just have civil partnerships available to both same sex and opposite sex couples.

"And to allow people to marry in church according to whatever right or denomination they want and it's open to the church that wants to practice what they call same sex marriage, then they can marry at such a church.

"I've no doubt such a denomination would emerge in time."

He said he had received hundreds of letters on the subjects from constituents, mainly hostile to the proposal.

Mr Baker said: "It's been a hugely emotional question, the most emotional before Parliament.

"Throughout the course my view has been firmer, that we need a thorough rethink of the law's role in marriage.

"I knew it would be carried by a vast majority and I didn't want to support it but neither did I want to oppose it because it would only have the effect of wounding same sex couples, including some of my friends."

He advocates a 'civil union' type system similar to that in France and South Africa.

He said: "My preference, which I have argued for, would be for the law to offer a single secular relationship on top of which people could build marriages."

He said there was a large conflict between generations on the issue, with younger people mainly in favour, and older against.

His main belief on the matter is that people should be free to live according to own conscience as far as that does not harm others.

The Minister of Penn Free Methodist Church, Pastor Peter Simpson, was outside of the Commons on Monday to protest against the policy.

The House of Lords will now examine the proposals.

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6:42pm Thu 23 May 13

motco says...

Mr Grieve does not represent Marlow - his constituency home is in Marlow.
Mr Grieve does not represent Marlow - his constituency home is in Marlow. motco
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7:39pm Thu 23 May 13

craig239 says...

In this world of free speech i can comment on gay marriage but i can't speak about Muslims re police assuring us we are ok
Thanks for the censorship
In this world of free speech i can comment on gay marriage but i can't speak about Muslims re police assuring us we are ok Thanks for the censorship craig239
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10:38pm Thu 23 May 13

Mike Henson says...

motco wrote:
Mr Grieve does not represent Marlow - his constituency home is in Marlow.
Personally I would prefer an MP to vote yes or no, it's the weak who abstain!
[quote][p][bold]motco[/bold] wrote: Mr Grieve does not represent Marlow - his constituency home is in Marlow.[/p][/quote]Personally I would prefer an MP to vote yes or no, it's the weak who abstain! Mike Henson
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10:43pm Thu 23 May 13

Mike Henson says...

craig239 wrote:
In this world of free speech i can comment on gay marriage but i can't speak about Muslims re police assuring us we are ok
Thanks for the censorship
A valid point Craig.

15 men are on trial of have just been tried in Wycombe and Oxford for rape, trafficking and sexual offences against children. Apart from the crime, What do these men have in common?
[quote][p][bold]craig239[/bold] wrote: In this world of free speech i can comment on gay marriage but i can't speak about Muslims re police assuring us we are ok Thanks for the censorship[/p][/quote]A valid point Craig. 15 men are on trial of have just been tried in Wycombe and Oxford for rape, trafficking and sexual offences against children. Apart from the crime, What do these men have in common? Mike Henson
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12:31am Fri 24 May 13

Stand up for England says...

craig239 wrote:
In this world of free speech i can comment on gay marriage but i can't speak about Muslims re police assuring us we are ok
Thanks for the censorship
My thoughts exactly Craig .... can't touch that hot potato ... a minority might be offended ... what a load of **** ! .... or are they scared about hearing what the majority really want to say ... I think so !! .. if any readers agree with this statement, could you just re-post it .. it would make the point ..
[quote][p][bold]craig239[/bold] wrote: In this world of free speech i can comment on gay marriage but i can't speak about Muslims re police assuring us we are ok Thanks for the censorship[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly Craig .... can't touch that hot potato ... a minority might be offended ... what a load of **** ! .... or are they scared about hearing what the majority really want to say ... I think so !! .. if any readers agree with this statement, could you just re-post it .. it would make the point .. Stand up for England
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12:34am Fri 24 May 13

Stand up for England says...

Mike Henson wrote:
craig239 wrote:
In this world of free speech i can comment on gay marriage but i can't speak about Muslims re police assuring us we are ok
Thanks for the censorship
A valid point Craig.

15 men are on trial of have just been tried in Wycombe and Oxford for rape, trafficking and sexual offences against children. Apart from the crime, What do these men have in common?
Mike .. the censorship police might get you for this one .... let's see what happens but I share the intimation you're making :-)
[quote][p][bold]Mike Henson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]craig239[/bold] wrote: In this world of free speech i can comment on gay marriage but i can't speak about Muslims re police assuring us we are ok Thanks for the censorship[/p][/quote]A valid point Craig. 15 men are on trial of have just been tried in Wycombe and Oxford for rape, trafficking and sexual offences against children. Apart from the crime, What do these men have in common?[/p][/quote]Mike .. the censorship police might get you for this one .... let's see what happens but I share the intimation you're making :-) Stand up for England
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12:40am Fri 24 May 13

Stand up for England says...

craig239 wrote:
In this world of free speech i can comment on gay marriage but i can't speak about Muslims re police assuring us we are ok
Thanks for the censorship
Craig .. we know each other .. CC :-)
[quote][p][bold]craig239[/bold] wrote: In this world of free speech i can comment on gay marriage but i can't speak about Muslims re police assuring us we are ok Thanks for the censorship[/p][/quote]Craig .. we know each other .. CC :-) Stand up for England
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6:36pm Fri 24 May 13

tom.marlow2 says...

motco wrote:
Mr Grieve does not represent Marlow - his constituency home is in Marlow.
Marlow has been in the Beaconsfield constituency since the last boundary changes.
[quote][p][bold]motco[/bold] wrote: Mr Grieve does not represent Marlow - his constituency home is in Marlow.[/p][/quote]Marlow has been in the Beaconsfield constituency since the last boundary changes. tom.marlow2
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2:03am Sat 25 May 13

Old Paths says...

It is good and right that Cheryl and David stood for true conservative values by opposing the Gay agenda in this land.

What PM David Cameron has done is shameful and has effectively destroyed his own party - he is politically correct
but has rejected the Christian influence
in our laws. Proverbs 14 v 34
It is good and right that Cheryl and David stood for true conservative values by opposing the Gay agenda in this land. What PM David Cameron has done is shameful and has effectively destroyed his own party - he is politically correct but has rejected the Christian influence in our laws. Proverbs 14 v 34 Old Paths
  • Score: 0

7:51am Sat 25 May 13

Stand up for England says...

Old Paths wrote:
It is good and right that Cheryl and David stood for true conservative values by opposing the Gay agenda in this land.

What PM David Cameron has done is shameful and has effectively destroyed his own party - he is politically correct
but has rejected the Christian influence
in our laws. Proverbs 14 v 34
I agree Sir. Civil partnerships certainly but not marriage.
[quote][p][bold]Old Paths[/bold] wrote: It is good and right that Cheryl and David stood for true conservative values by opposing the Gay agenda in this land. What PM David Cameron has done is shameful and has effectively destroyed his own party - he is politically correct but has rejected the Christian influence in our laws. Proverbs 14 v 34[/p][/quote]I agree Sir. Civil partnerships certainly but not marriage. Stand up for England
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2:17pm Sat 15 Jun 13

DonRockell says...

tom.marlow2 wrote:
motco wrote:
Mr Grieve does not represent Marlow - his constituency home is in Marlow.
Marlow has been in the Beaconsfield constituency since the last boundary changes.
That would explain why we don't see him in Marlow - Its to far from London and not on the M40 for him to visit when there's no election going on
[quote][p][bold]tom.marlow2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motco[/bold] wrote: Mr Grieve does not represent Marlow - his constituency home is in Marlow.[/p][/quote]Marlow has been in the Beaconsfield constituency since the last boundary changes.[/p][/quote]That would explain why we don't see him in Marlow - Its to far from London and not on the M40 for him to visit when there's no election going on DonRockell
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