Call for new police forum after 'disorder in Wycombe'

Bucks Free Press: Zia Ullah (l) and Saqib Deshmukh (c) from Justice 4 Paps Zia Ullah (l) and Saqib Deshmukh (c) from Justice 4 Paps

A CALL for an Asian police forum received the support of residents at a meeting held in the wake of alleged disorder in an area of High Wycombe.

A motion put forward by Wycombe District Councillor Chauhdry Shafique to set up a police consultative body for Asian and ethnic minority residents was approved by the audience of about 75 people.

The aim of the forum is to set up communication channels between the community and officers - with the overall objective of holding the police to account.

Cllr Shafique told the meeting: "There’s work that needs to be taken up to build a relationship with our police...to rebuild confidence, an Asian police forum [is needed] with our colleagues and police on the same side of the table to talk about issues and to see both sides so we have a balanced view."

It comes after a meeting hosted by the Justice 4 Paps group last Monday raised concerns about a series of events in the Green Street area in recent weeks - with a wider focus on police operations in the town.

Green Street shop keepers stood up to say they had seen a number of incidents - ranging from drug dealing to vandalism - which they claimed police have failed to act upon.

Omar Baig, who runs the Al Madina Sweet Centre, told the meeting: "There are problems with drugs and selling drugs, it needs to be stopped - the community is not going to be happy if police don’t do something.

"There is an elderly woman - who is in her eighties - who is scared to come out of her flat to do her shopping because of it."

The Justice 4 Paps group has also launched a petition calling for a Public Inquiry into policing in High Wycombe.

Addressed to Wycombe MP Steve Baker, Thames Valley Police’s Chief Constable Sara Thornton and Police & Crime Commissioner Anthony Stansfeld, the petition states: "We are entitled to police services that work for us and not against us, to policing that is professional and thorough.

"We need accountability and transparency and respect for ALL victims of crime as well as action against officers that abuse their powers."

It goes on to state it does not believe officers have "acted professionally" in regards to incidents in Green Street, criticises police over Operation Ribbon and a "lack of action against Islamophobic and racial harassment".

Wycombe Commander Superintendent Gilbert Houalla and Chief Inspector Colin Seaton said they "would welcome any effective and constructive communication" with a new police forum.

They added transparency in policing was vital for public confidence but Supt Houalla rejected suggestions police had acted inappropriately in regards to the issues raised at the meeting.

See the Free Press website later this week for a full response from the police chiefs.

Comments (12)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

5:26pm Mon 2 Dec 13

Lane End Man says...

It goes on to state it does not believe officers have "acted professionally" in regards to incidents in Green Street, criticises police over Operation Ribbon and a "lack of action against Islamophobic and racial harassment".
~
LOL, was it not a couple asian gang's that was found by Operation Ribbon?
~
Racism also works both ways, Asian's are just as bad as White, Polish, Black, Chinese, Indian and all other races, every race will have racists amongst them it is not an everyone other than use disease, once the asian elders start to realize that, then perhaps Racism will start to wain a little in High Wycombe and around the world.
It goes on to state it does not believe officers have "acted professionally" in regards to incidents in Green Street, criticises police over Operation Ribbon and a "lack of action against Islamophobic and racial harassment". ~ LOL, was it not a couple asian gang's that was found by Operation Ribbon? ~ Racism also works both ways, Asian's are just as bad as White, Polish, Black, Chinese, Indian and all other races, every race will have racists amongst them it is not an everyone other than use disease, once the asian elders start to realize that, then perhaps Racism will start to wain a little in High Wycombe and around the world. Lane End Man

11:04am Tue 3 Dec 13

Darren Hayday says...

That is the first time in my life that I've heard the word 'Islamophobic'...Wou
ld the word 'Christianophoblic' also be a word? I am now reading a wiki page on Islamophobia and also anti-Semites but I cant see a page for Christianophobia.
That is the first time in my life that I've heard the word 'Islamophobic'...Wou ld the word 'Christianophoblic' also be a word? I am now reading a wiki page on Islamophobia and also anti-Semites but I cant see a page for Christianophobia. Darren Hayday

1:26pm Tue 3 Dec 13

BucksComment says...

Perhaps they can start by making sure all the cars abandoned near the Mosques during Friday prayers get the tickets they deserve. I'm sure little old Doris would park her car politely on her way to church in a Sunday..
Perhaps they can start by making sure all the cars abandoned near the Mosques during Friday prayers get the tickets they deserve. I'm sure little old Doris would park her car politely on her way to church in a Sunday.. BucksComment

2:56pm Tue 3 Dec 13

cant-polish-a-turd says...

"set up a police consultative body for Asian and ethnic minority residents"

Minority? Are you having a laugh???
"set up a police consultative body for Asian and ethnic minority residents" Minority? Are you having a laugh??? cant-polish-a-turd

9:50pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Stand up for England says...

So, they want preferential treatment, because of their race, over and above what can be expected by white, Anglo saxon Christians in say, Loudwater? What a crock of **** !! .... and the cops will pander to their requests for fear of being labels 'racist'. My message to the Asian community that feel they'r not being treated equally .... put your own house in order and work with the cops, not just when it suits !!
So, they want preferential treatment, because of their race, over and above what can be expected by white, Anglo saxon Christians in say, Loudwater? What a crock of **** !! .... and the cops will pander to their requests for fear of being labels 'racist'. My message to the Asian community that feel they'r not being treated equally .... put your own house in order and work with the cops, not just when it suits !! Stand up for England

11:53am Wed 4 Dec 13

FarleyUK says...

Are you kidding me?!??

Maybe when the 'community' starts treating the other communities with the respect they expect in return, we'll have something to talk about.
Are you kidding me?!?? Maybe when the 'community' starts treating the other communities with the respect they expect in return, we'll have something to talk about. FarleyUK

12:07am Thu 5 Dec 13

DocD says...

Share the concerns about this being a strictly Asian or 'ethnic minority' forums. I was at this meeting and personally don't want this and feel it serves as a distraction to the real problem of police corruption and incompetence that impacts on ALL in Wycombe.

However Asian & African Caribbean communities are disproportionally stop and searched and harassed by Thames Valley police and there are still questions to be asked about the deaths of Habib Ullah, Marcus Cottoy and Philmore Mills. The deaths of these 3 people in the last 5 years raises serious concerns about the nature of policing in the area
Share the concerns about this being a strictly Asian or 'ethnic minority' forums. I was at this meeting and personally don't want this and feel it serves as a distraction to the real problem of police corruption and incompetence that impacts on ALL in Wycombe. However Asian & African Caribbean communities are disproportionally stop and searched and harassed by Thames Valley police and there are still questions to be asked about the deaths of Habib Ullah, Marcus Cottoy and Philmore Mills. The deaths of these 3 people in the last 5 years raises serious concerns about the nature of policing in the area DocD

1:20am Thu 5 Dec 13

tigeran says...

DocD wrote:
Share the concerns about this being a strictly Asian or 'ethnic minority' forums. I was at this meeting and personally don't want this and feel it serves as a distraction to the real problem of police corruption and incompetence that impacts on ALL in Wycombe.

However Asian & African Caribbean communities are disproportionally stop and searched and harassed by Thames Valley police and there are still questions to be asked about the deaths of Habib Ullah, Marcus Cottoy and Philmore Mills. The deaths of these 3 people in the last 5 years raises serious concerns about the nature of policing in the area
Do you never stop to think just WHY stop and search single out certain groups? Perhaps it's is those groups that are committing the crimes? The police will only stop people fitting those descriptions. What's wrong with that? Commit the crime, suffer the consequence.
[quote][p][bold]DocD[/bold] wrote: Share the concerns about this being a strictly Asian or 'ethnic minority' forums. I was at this meeting and personally don't want this and feel it serves as a distraction to the real problem of police corruption and incompetence that impacts on ALL in Wycombe. However Asian & African Caribbean communities are disproportionally stop and searched and harassed by Thames Valley police and there are still questions to be asked about the deaths of Habib Ullah, Marcus Cottoy and Philmore Mills. The deaths of these 3 people in the last 5 years raises serious concerns about the nature of policing in the area[/p][/quote]Do you never stop to think just WHY stop and search single out certain groups? Perhaps it's is those groups that are committing the crimes? The police will only stop people fitting those descriptions. What's wrong with that? Commit the crime, suffer the consequence. tigeran

10:07pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Dickitdo says...

Do these people consider that they are exempt from this countries laws. Do they think that because they have different customs religion etc that they should get special dispensations,they should not !.When in Rome you do as the Romans do ! .
Do these people consider that they are exempt from this countries laws. Do they think that because they have different customs religion etc that they should get special dispensations,they should not !.When in Rome you do as the Romans do ! . Dickitdo

8:59am Sat 7 Dec 13

Disillusioned Optimist says...

my sons have been victims of a number of assaults and my nine year old witnessed a stabbing..not just witnessed but the victim was the 16 year old looking after him. On each occasion the assailants were pakistanis. I've seen, experienced, and heard of numerous similar accounts in the area. A one size fits all law is adequate..if the planned segregated consultation gets set up, i fear this will be misused to alert and conceal and would not have the transparency that would be promised
my sons have been victims of a number of assaults and my nine year old witnessed a stabbing..not just witnessed but the victim was the 16 year old looking after him. On each occasion the assailants were pakistanis. I've seen, experienced, and heard of numerous similar accounts in the area. A one size fits all law is adequate..if the planned segregated consultation gets set up, i fear this will be misused to alert and conceal and would not have the transparency that would be promised Disillusioned Optimist

2:32pm Sat 7 Dec 13

skruffy says...

Why does the "community" need to be treated in a way any different to the rest of the town??? I don't get it and am open to reason.
Unfortunately certain crimes are concentrated in particular communities. Roma = pick pocketing, we all know that and agree. Do we need to set up a forum for these guys? I think not. The wider pakistani community have chosen not to tackle criminal elements within its community, they have had ample chance but have done very little to tackle it apart from playing the race card over and over.
The Green street area of the town is virtually a no-go area for members of the Wycombe public. Cars park wherever they want and dare you say anything you will be chased, victimised and harassed, this isn't a wild accusation, I have experienced it and know of many people who have also experienced it. There has been a major problem with drugs, car crime and prostitution in that area also for many years.
The police always come up against a wall of silence and the threat of the racist card being pulled at any time.
IF, it was possible to eradicate these criminal enterprises and attitudes for the "community" then people wouldn't be pointing the finger. Why do the community persistently refuse to tackle the rotten eggs among them?
It would be for the greater good and would pave way for everyone to start living side by side.
There are other points also. Gangs of five and six asian lads mugging lone white kids, this has appeared in this paper on many occasions. What is giving these gangs this attitude? My mates and I wouldn't have dreamed of doing that when we were teens.
Until they decide to help us tackle the problems instead of pleading victimisation they will continue to slip into a completely separate, alienated group within society. Criminals are criminals, no matter which communities they belong to. They need to be caught, punished equally with no regard what-so-ever to their colour or religious beliefs.
Stop putting up smoke screens and tackle your problems.
Why does the "community" need to be treated in a way any different to the rest of the town??? I don't get it and am open to reason. Unfortunately certain crimes are concentrated in particular communities. Roma = pick pocketing, we all know that and agree. Do we need to set up a forum for these guys? I think not. The wider pakistani community have chosen not to tackle criminal elements within its community, they have had ample chance but have done very little to tackle it apart from playing the race card over and over. The Green street area of the town is virtually a no-go area for members of the Wycombe public. Cars park wherever they want and dare you say anything you will be chased, victimised and harassed, this isn't a wild accusation, I have experienced it and know of many people who have also experienced it. There has been a major problem with drugs, car crime and prostitution in that area also for many years. The police always come up against a wall of silence and the threat of the racist card being pulled at any time. IF, it was possible to eradicate these criminal enterprises and attitudes for the "community" then people wouldn't be pointing the finger. Why do the community persistently refuse to tackle the rotten eggs among them? It would be for the greater good and would pave way for everyone to start living side by side. There are other points also. Gangs of five and six asian lads mugging lone white kids, this has appeared in this paper on many occasions. What is giving these gangs this attitude? My mates and I wouldn't have dreamed of doing that when we were teens. Until they decide to help us tackle the problems instead of pleading victimisation they will continue to slip into a completely separate, alienated group within society. Criminals are criminals, no matter which communities they belong to. They need to be caught, punished equally with no regard what-so-ever to their colour or religious beliefs. Stop putting up smoke screens and tackle your problems. skruffy

6:39am Mon 9 Dec 13

1wycombe says...

wait til next year when romans & bulgarains gangs come over it be gang war ware in wycombe?...hahah
wait til next year when romans & bulgarains gangs come over it be gang war ware in wycombe?...hahah 1wycombe

Comments are closed on this article.

click2find

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree