Abbey Way Flyover partially reopened for Christmas shopping crowds

Bucks Free Press: Abbey Way Flyover reopened for Christmas shopping crowds Abbey Way Flyover reopened for Christmas shopping crowds

CHRISTMAS shoppers in Wycombe will face fewer queues from this weekend after the council announced it is partially reopening Abbey Way Flyover.

Cones on part of the closed lane will be removed to cope with the extra festive shopping traffic from this morning.

Transport for Bucks says traffic leaving Lily's walk turning left onto Abbey Way should see a marked improvement in flow toward the Eden roundabout where both lanes will be open.

Access into Lily's walk from Abbey Way will remain closed.

The decision has been taken after a traffic flow assessment and negotiations with Wycombe District Council and Eden.

Authorities hope the measures will improve the movement of vehicles west towards the Eden roundabout.

The flyover linking the east and west of town has been closed since May, with a study revealing deficiencies in its parapets.

It will require work to maintain its overall structure as an active highway over the next couple of years, according to Bucks County Council.

However, the route may become redundant and could be demolished after a £4million plan to reroute Wycombe’s road network was given the go ahead.

The new route will see traffic sent past Wycombe Hospital in Queen Alexander Road, through the old gasworks site, along Desborough Road, into Westbourne Street and onto a new roundabout on West Wycombe Road.

TfB has not yet announced when the lane closure will be put back in place.

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10:56am Fri 13 Dec 13

gordimil says...

So the "safety of drivers", which is the reason it has remained partially closed, is of no concern during this festive season.

All that appears to influence the decision, is the fact that the Eden Centre may not make as much money as it might, with the road fully open.

Bucks and Wycombe Councils are just hypocrites, and the Eden Centre money grabbing so and so's.
Wycombe's master plan is a shambles and should have been rejected. The BFP's own survey shows that the townsfolk are not in favour of it. Once again it shows a blatant disregard for the people who are the 'beneficiaries' of planning, by people who have no concern for others. Just a desire to go down in history, for their 'contribution' to the town.
So the "safety of drivers", which is the reason it has remained partially closed, is of no concern during this festive season. All that appears to influence the decision, is the fact that the Eden Centre may not make as much money as it might, with the road fully open. Bucks and Wycombe Councils are just hypocrites, and the Eden Centre money grabbing so and so's. Wycombe's master plan is a shambles and should have been rejected. The BFP's own survey shows that the townsfolk are not in favour of it. Once again it shows a blatant disregard for the people who are the 'beneficiaries' of planning, by people who have no concern for others. Just a desire to go down in history, for their 'contribution' to the town. gordimil

11:15am Fri 13 Dec 13

miccles says...

gordimil wrote:
So the "safety of drivers", which is the reason it has remained partially closed, is of no concern during this festive season.

All that appears to influence the decision, is the fact that the Eden Centre may not make as much money as it might, with the road fully open.

Bucks and Wycombe Councils are just hypocrites, and the Eden Centre money grabbing so and so's.
Wycombe's master plan is a shambles and should have been rejected. The BFP's own survey shows that the townsfolk are not in favour of it. Once again it shows a blatant disregard for the people who are the 'beneficiaries' of planning, by people who have no concern for others. Just a desire to go down in history, for their 'contribution' to the town.
Well said, I couldn't put it better myself.
BCC, WDC and TFB, are basically lying through their teeth, if it was as dangerous as they made out to be, WHY open it partially?
This masterplan is a shambles.
The folk of WDC area, did not come down in the last shower.
[quote][p][bold]gordimil[/bold] wrote: So the "safety of drivers", which is the reason it has remained partially closed, is of no concern during this festive season. All that appears to influence the decision, is the fact that the Eden Centre may not make as much money as it might, with the road fully open. Bucks and Wycombe Councils are just hypocrites, and the Eden Centre money grabbing so and so's. Wycombe's master plan is a shambles and should have been rejected. The BFP's own survey shows that the townsfolk are not in favour of it. Once again it shows a blatant disregard for the people who are the 'beneficiaries' of planning, by people who have no concern for others. Just a desire to go down in history, for their 'contribution' to the town.[/p][/quote]Well said, I couldn't put it better myself. BCC, WDC and TFB, are basically lying through their teeth, if it was as dangerous as they made out to be, WHY open it partially? This masterplan is a shambles. The folk of WDC area, did not come down in the last shower. miccles

12:49pm Fri 13 Dec 13

sidthesexist says...

If it's safe to open now, then why wasn't it safe to do so months ago? Yet more evidence that the plans to do away with the flyover and build a new road is politically motivated rather than being due to necessity. And likely involves large bungs being involved..
If it's safe to open now, then why wasn't it safe to do so months ago? Yet more evidence that the plans to do away with the flyover and build a new road is politically motivated rather than being due to necessity. And likely involves large bungs being involved.. sidthesexist

1:23pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Bartholomew HuckleBerry says...

This is what is known as dog whistle politics. Would it not be detrimental to the integrity of the structure of the flyover if more traffic is fed through through it, the same reason it was closed in the first place.
There must be some huge pay-offs and back handed payments to the councillors to allow this to happen because obviously the safety of all is really not a concern here. If it was then the flyover would remain shut. This is like saying "allow everything and anything just because it is christmas".. The decision makers of this failed council are not up to the job. There has to be a vote of confidence or a some sort to get these loosers out especially the incompetent leader !
This is what is known as dog whistle politics. Would it not be detrimental to the integrity of the structure of the flyover if more traffic is fed through through it, the same reason it was closed in the first place. There must be some huge pay-offs and back handed payments to the councillors to allow this to happen because obviously the safety of all is really not a concern here. If it was then the flyover would remain shut. This is like saying "allow everything and anything just because it is christmas".. The decision makers of this failed council are not up to the job. There has to be a vote of confidence or a some sort to get these loosers out especially the incompetent leader ! Bartholomew HuckleBerry

1:29pm Fri 13 Dec 13

big don g the 1st says...

This shows them to be either liars or a council with no regard for motorist's safety.

Also are shoppers more important than people going to and from work each day? What a bunch of ****s.
This shows them to be either liars or a council with no regard for motorist's safety. Also are shoppers more important than people going to and from work each day? What a bunch of ****s. big don g the 1st

1:53pm Fri 13 Dec 13

gordimil says...

Actually, it may have served it's purpose.

It might just have, (I don't think), been a means of testing what would happen with traffic, if it was closed completely.

It has been noticeable that during the period it has been closed, traffic has found alternative routes.

This is evidenced in the part of town that I am familiar with, by a marked increase in the amount of traffic using Gordon Road, Totteridge Avenue and Bowerdean Road. particularly at 'rush hour'.

As is often the case, when the obstruction on the 'old route' is removed, many motorists continue using the alternative routes they found.

Man is a creature of habit and the saying 'old habits die hard' is often very true.

It will be interesting to see what happens after the holiday season.

A closing thought..........doe
s anyone from the relevant council departments, read these comments?

I suppose it's even less likely that they would take into account any public opinion.
Actually, it may have served it's purpose. It might just have, (I don't think), been a means of testing what would happen with traffic, if it was closed completely. It has been noticeable that during the period it has been closed, traffic has found alternative routes. This is evidenced in the part of town that I am familiar with, by a marked increase in the amount of traffic using Gordon Road, Totteridge Avenue and Bowerdean Road. particularly at 'rush hour'. As is often the case, when the obstruction on the 'old route' is removed, many motorists continue using the alternative routes they found. Man is a creature of habit and the saying 'old habits die hard' is often very true. It will be interesting to see what happens after the holiday season. A closing thought..........doe s anyone from the relevant council departments, read these comments? I suppose it's even less likely that they would take into account any public opinion. gordimil

4:28pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Rye Observer says...

Finally some common sense from the powers that be over these lane closures. Previous comments seem to revolve purely around the fact that we are being fed a pack of lies & that the lane closures may have just been a ploy to test traffic flows for the master plan. I am not going to disagree with this, as this may well be true. However, since the news that the lane closures would remain in place following the structural survey & the identification of parapet issues I have wondered why the lane on the westbound carriage way wasn't reopened, as for the vast majority of this side of the flyover there are no parapets, there is a steel barrier between the highway and the Eden service road. Eastbound I can understand being closed as there is a concrete parapet past which is a drop to the footpath in front of the Travel lodge.

If we are to believe the govenors that there are structural issues then the decision to open both lanes westbound is an excellent one & will surely help to ease the traffic flowing out of Eden as is mentioned in the article.

It seems that most BFP readers providing comment are far too synical!
Finally some common sense from the powers that be over these lane closures. Previous comments seem to revolve purely around the fact that we are being fed a pack of lies & that the lane closures may have just been a ploy to test traffic flows for the master plan. I am not going to disagree with this, as this may well be true. However, since the news that the lane closures would remain in place following the structural survey & the identification of parapet issues I have wondered why the lane on the westbound carriage way wasn't reopened, as for the vast majority of this side of the flyover there are no parapets, there is a steel barrier between the highway and the Eden service road. Eastbound I can understand being closed as there is a concrete parapet past which is a drop to the footpath in front of the Travel lodge. If we are to believe the govenors that there are structural issues then the decision to open both lanes westbound is an excellent one & will surely help to ease the traffic flowing out of Eden as is mentioned in the article. It seems that most BFP readers providing comment are far too synical! Rye Observer

5:04pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Dickitdo says...

You can fool some people some of time ,But you can not fool all of the people all of the time !! This is exactly what is happening here in High Wycombe. Council Officials have no regard for the wishes of the majority of the people in this town, and why should they.These Officials are not Elected but what they say Go,s they have a Consultation with loaded questions , they know that they will get the result that they want mostly because they ask selected people . These Council officials are generally University educated and" Councillors are easily lead" by these people because they think that they Know best ," But they do not "Do not trust these people they are just trying to justify their existence with stupid Consultations and Schemes that nobody wants !!! .
You can fool some people some of time ,But you can not fool all of the people all of the time !! This is exactly what is happening here in High Wycombe. Council Officials have no regard for the wishes of the majority of the people in this town, and why should they.These Officials are not Elected but what they say Go,s they have a Consultation with loaded questions , they know that they will get the result that they want mostly because they ask selected people . These Council officials are generally University educated and" Councillors are easily lead" by these people because they think that they Know best ," But they do not "Do not trust these people they are just trying to justify their existence with stupid Consultations and Schemes that nobody wants !!! . Dickitdo

8:59pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Tony.. says...

Lifting sections of the road surface, as they did earlier in the year, and allowing rain to soak in wouldn't have helped any issues the flyover may have had...
And why haven't the Lily Walk traffic lights been turned back on?
Lifting sections of the road surface, as they did earlier in the year, and allowing rain to soak in wouldn't have helped any issues the flyover may have had... And why haven't the Lily Walk traffic lights been turned back on? Tony..

9:29pm Fri 13 Dec 13

J B Blackett says...

While good folk are abed and asleep , the unscrupulous evildoers creep and slither about by night and maliciously perform their pointless obnoxious deeds.
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Why do they do this ? Why ?
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Because we let them - that's why.
While good folk are abed and asleep , the unscrupulous evildoers creep and slither about by night and maliciously perform their pointless obnoxious deeds. . Why do they do this ? Why ? . Because we let them - that's why. J B Blackett

10:38pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Undercover Euro Yob says...

I wonder what the everyday folk of Wycombe - through whom ivor keeps his finger on the pulse of the town - are saying about the 'Marie Celeste of Flyovers' being 'partially reopened for Christmas shopping crowds'.
I wonder what the everyday folk of Wycombe - through whom ivor keeps his finger on the pulse of the town - are saying about the 'Marie Celeste of Flyovers' being 'partially reopened for Christmas shopping crowds'. Undercover Euro Yob

12:00pm Sat 14 Dec 13

aaaali says...

I have always thought that the reason for the partial closure was an experiment to see if traffic would find alternative routes, They did in some cases. Making Queen Alexander Road more chaotic and jammed than usual.

The next wonderful idea is to send traffic through the old Gasworks' site and along Desborough Road merging with the A40 just in front of another great development idea- the vast office block near the Job Centre, which I don't think has ever been fully occupied. More cost for very little improvement, if any. Surely by diverting the traffic in that direction it will mean more demolition and chaos. The Chapel Lane 'improvement' doesn't appear to have actually made any difference. Obviously we just needed to waste time sitting in unnecessary tailbacks!
I have always thought that the reason for the partial closure was an experiment to see if traffic would find alternative routes, They did in some cases. Making Queen Alexander Road more chaotic and jammed than usual. The next wonderful idea is to send traffic through the old Gasworks' site and along Desborough Road merging with the A40 just in front of another great development idea- the vast office block near the Job Centre, which I don't think has ever been fully occupied. More cost for very little improvement, if any. Surely by diverting the traffic in that direction it will mean more demolition and chaos. The Chapel Lane 'improvement' doesn't appear to have actually made any difference. Obviously we just needed to waste time sitting in unnecessary tailbacks! aaaali

5:45pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Mr Totterdge Hill says...

Perhaps they've put some tinsel on the sides to re-enforce it?
Perhaps they've put some tinsel on the sides to re-enforce it? Mr Totterdge Hill

3:00pm Sun 15 Dec 13

stevet123 says...

Ype, all the Tory Voters, now having a good moan, and they voted these idiots into office ha ha ha, nothing wrong with the fly over, if they are going to spend money build an under pass, from the big round about opps the school, that a come out by the job centre, at least the tory council will not be wasting money, like they normally do on surveys and consultancy fee's like the dodgy vote for red kite to take over the council houses, and what happens there is the council are still paying the rent on the less well off people,
Ype, all the Tory Voters, now having a good moan, and they voted these idiots into office ha ha ha, nothing wrong with the fly over, if they are going to spend money build an under pass, from the big round about opps the school, that a come out by the job centre, at least the tory council will not be wasting money, like they normally do on surveys and consultancy fee's like the dodgy vote for red kite to take over the council houses, and what happens there is the council are still paying the rent on the less well off people, stevet123

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