Council leader: 'No compelling case for Wycombe Town Council'

Bucks Free Press: WDC Leader Cllr Richard Scott WDC Leader Cllr Richard Scott

A COUNCIL chief has not seen a “compelling case” for a High Wycombe town council – as a petition is launched by residents to create parish councils in an area of Wycombe.

Wycombe District Council Leader Cllr Richard Scott told Full Council last night that he did not believe creating a town council, which could potentially see a rise in council tax for town residents, had any merits.

Cllr Trevor Snaith, who has been leading the call for a town council, asked the leader if he believed WDC should support a new Government initiative to encourage the creation of parish and town councils.

Cllr Scott said: “High Wycombe has a significant voice through its 24 members on this council and through the High Wycombe Town Committee.

“I am yet to see a compelling case...I do not believe it would be in the interest of town residents to offer a solution that would increase council tax.”

The Marlow-based Conservative added he was “puzzled” by Cllr Snaith’s proposal for a town council given his Liberal Democrat colleague Cllr Julia Wassell was spearheading a petition to set up separate parish councils in the Bowerdean, Micklefield and Totteridge areas of the town.

Cllr Wassell told the BFP that residents were in fact leading the scheme, with each proposed parish requiring 250 signatures from registered voters before it could be taken to WDC to spark an official review.

She added that she was unsure of the benefits of a town council - given many of the unparished wards were miles from the town centre - but she believes WDC is “past its sell by date” and a unitary authority is needed.

Cllr Wassell said: “I have spoken previously about the need for parish councils, there’s a national programme to create more.

“My view is that it’s power to the people, they should decide and I hope these residents – and the example set by the Daws Hill Neighbourhood Forum – will inspire others to take an interest and get involved.

“But clearly something has to give because the Town Committee is useless and I also believe there should be a unitary authority and then parish councils, as the district council is past its sell by date.”

Email yesparish@aol.com for more information about the petition to set up parish councils in Bowerdean, Micklefield and Totteridge.

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4:15pm Tue 17 Dec 13

miccles says...

Cllr Scott said: “High Wycombe has a significant voice through its 24 members on this council and through the High Wycombe Town Committee.

And what about all the people who have to put up with all the s**t you councillors throw at us, week by week, month by month, year by year, in that I mean the residents of Wycombe District, the people who have to pay their way in order for you lot to waste it away, don't we have a "significant voice" in this?
Cllr Scott said: “High Wycombe has a significant voice through its 24 members on this council and through the High Wycombe Town Committee. And what about all the people who have to put up with all the s**t you councillors throw at us, week by week, month by month, year by year, in that I mean the residents of Wycombe District, the people who have to pay their way in order for you lot to waste it away, don't we have a "significant voice" in this? miccles

6:25pm Tue 17 Dec 13

sparky49 says...

miccles wrote:
Cllr Scott said: “High Wycombe has a significant voice through its 24 members on this council and through the High Wycombe Town Committee.

And what about all the people who have to put up with all the s**t you councillors throw at us, week by week, month by month, year by year, in that I mean the residents of Wycombe District, the people who have to pay their way in order for you lot to waste it away, don't we have a "significant voice" in this?
Give Wycombe a town council and it takes away a bit more control from the power mad control freak that Scott is.
[quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: Cllr Scott said: “High Wycombe has a significant voice through its 24 members on this council and through the High Wycombe Town Committee. And what about all the people who have to put up with all the s**t you councillors throw at us, week by week, month by month, year by year, in that I mean the residents of Wycombe District, the people who have to pay their way in order for you lot to waste it away, don't we have a "significant voice" in this?[/p][/quote]Give Wycombe a town council and it takes away a bit more control from the power mad control freak that Scott is. sparky49

8:00pm Tue 17 Dec 13

valleyviewboy says...

Take Wycombe district, make it unitary and give it borough status for good measure, placing it on level footing with such other districts as Windsor and Maidehead, Bracknell Forest, Wokingham, Bedford.... they don't have to look to a town twenty miles away for their ultimate guidance, why should we. Centralise it all in High Wycombe!
Take Wycombe district, make it unitary and give it borough status for good measure, placing it on level footing with such other districts as Windsor and Maidehead, Bracknell Forest, Wokingham, Bedford.... they don't have to look to a town twenty miles away for their ultimate guidance, why should we. Centralise it all in High Wycombe! valleyviewboy

8:57pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Darren Hayday says...

Trevor is correct, Wycombe does need its own Town Council and I fully support that. However we first need a Unitary for this part of Bucks and then have a Town Council created at the same time.

BUT we all know that the real truth why this isn’t happening is that the Districts and County want to keep tightly hold of their own sovereignty and do not want to give up Tory power to anyone else.

This will carry on until enough people get together, and fight to change the system.

I do understand where Julie is coming from as other wards such as Sands, Booker & Cressex (plus all the other unparished wards in Wycombe) need their own Parish Councils in this vacuum of the inept Town Committee within WDC.

For everyone reading this that votes Tory, this will not change, unless you stop voting for them.
Trevor is correct, Wycombe does need its own Town Council and I fully support that. However we first need a Unitary for this part of Bucks and then have a Town Council created at the same time. BUT we all know that the real truth why this isn’t happening is that the Districts and County want to keep tightly hold of their own sovereignty and do not want to give up Tory power to anyone else. This will carry on until enough people get together, and fight to change the system. I do understand where Julie is coming from as other wards such as Sands, Booker & Cressex (plus all the other unparished wards in Wycombe) need their own Parish Councils in this vacuum of the inept Town Committee within WDC. For everyone reading this that votes Tory, this will not change, unless you stop voting for them. Darren Hayday

9:38pm Tue 17 Dec 13

williamjames says...

A Town Council will cost a lot more than the Charter Trustees. If Aylesbry is any form of a guide the costs will be c.a. 1.5 Million pounds rather more than the costs of the current situation and all for no significant benefit.
The answer is, surely, to put in place a sat of protocols within WDC that will give the Town Committee similar status to a Town Council for commenting on planing, environment etc.
Do we need another layer of Councillors who will insist on having allowances, offices and staff way in excess of the current situation.
A Town Council will cost a lot more than the Charter Trustees. If Aylesbry is any form of a guide the costs will be c.a. 1.5 Million pounds rather more than the costs of the current situation and all for no significant benefit. The answer is, surely, to put in place a sat of protocols within WDC that will give the Town Committee similar status to a Town Council for commenting on planing, environment etc. Do we need another layer of Councillors who will insist on having allowances, offices and staff way in excess of the current situation. williamjames

11:59pm Tue 17 Dec 13

yog says...

Parish Councils or Town Council?? Make up your mind!
Parish Councils or Town Council?? Make up your mind! yog

12:56am Wed 18 Dec 13

faircuppa says...

People will now decide not councillors
People will now decide not councillors faircuppa

8:03am Wed 18 Dec 13

yog says...

faircuppa wrote:
People will now decide not councillors
How sweet! Presumably those going around with a petition are informing residents how much their Council Tax will go up so that they can make an informed choice.
[quote][p][bold]faircuppa[/bold] wrote: People will now decide not councillors[/p][/quote]How sweet! Presumably those going around with a petition are informing residents how much their Council Tax will go up so that they can make an informed choice. yog

8:44am Wed 18 Dec 13

townraider says...

williamjames wrote:
A Town Council will cost a lot more than the Charter Trustees. If Aylesbry is any form of a guide the costs will be c.a. 1.5 Million pounds rather more than the costs of the current situation and all for no significant benefit.
The answer is, surely, to put in place a sat of protocols within WDC that will give the Town Committee similar status to a Town Council for commenting on planing, environment etc.
Do we need another layer of Councillors who will insist on having allowances, offices and staff way in excess of the current situation.
Been tried .. cant happen due to legal issues ..
Only answer is Town council
[quote][p][bold]williamjames[/bold] wrote: A Town Council will cost a lot more than the Charter Trustees. If Aylesbry is any form of a guide the costs will be c.a. 1.5 Million pounds rather more than the costs of the current situation and all for no significant benefit. The answer is, surely, to put in place a sat of protocols within WDC that will give the Town Committee similar status to a Town Council for commenting on planing, environment etc. Do we need another layer of Councillors who will insist on having allowances, offices and staff way in excess of the current situation.[/p][/quote]Been tried .. cant happen due to legal issues .. Only answer is Town council townraider

9:09am Wed 18 Dec 13

Darren Hayday says...

townraider wrote:
williamjames wrote:
A Town Council will cost a lot more than the Charter Trustees. If Aylesbry is any form of a guide the costs will be c.a. 1.5 Million pounds rather more than the costs of the current situation and all for no significant benefit.
The answer is, surely, to put in place a sat of protocols within WDC that will give the Town Committee similar status to a Town Council for commenting on planing, environment etc.
Do we need another layer of Councillors who will insist on having allowances, offices and staff way in excess of the current situation.
Been tried .. cant happen due to legal issues ..
Only answer is Town council
This is correct. But having a Town Council is not the answer without first creating a Unitary Council and getting rid of County and the Districts - otherwise it would be adding another layer of Cllrs into the pot.
[quote][p][bold]townraider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]williamjames[/bold] wrote: A Town Council will cost a lot more than the Charter Trustees. If Aylesbry is any form of a guide the costs will be c.a. 1.5 Million pounds rather more than the costs of the current situation and all for no significant benefit. The answer is, surely, to put in place a sat of protocols within WDC that will give the Town Committee similar status to a Town Council for commenting on planing, environment etc. Do we need another layer of Councillors who will insist on having allowances, offices and staff way in excess of the current situation.[/p][/quote]Been tried .. cant happen due to legal issues .. Only answer is Town council[/p][/quote]This is correct. But having a Town Council is not the answer without first creating a Unitary Council and getting rid of County and the Districts - otherwise it would be adding another layer of Cllrs into the pot. Darren Hayday

11:49am Wed 18 Dec 13

valleyviewboy says...

yog wrote:
Parish Councils or Town Council?? Make up your mind!
They're pretty much the same thing, a town council is a parish council which has declared itself to be a town, and therefore a town council. If a place is unparished it can have neither council.

The best way forward is surely to do as I said above, unitary status for Wycombe (borough) as it stands now, centralising all current county and district council powers in High Wycombe. Then the formation of a town council wouldn't be quite as necessary. It could still be created- just not as a priority. For comparion, I don't think Maidenhead has one, but Bracknell certainly does: two towns both parts of pretty small but intensive unitary authorities.
[quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: Parish Councils or Town Council?? Make up your mind![/p][/quote]They're pretty much the same thing, a town council is a parish council which has declared itself to be a town, and therefore a town council. If a place is unparished it can have neither council. The best way forward is surely to do as I said above, unitary status for Wycombe (borough) as it stands now, centralising all current county and district council powers in High Wycombe. Then the formation of a town council wouldn't be quite as necessary. It could still be created- just not as a priority. For comparion, I don't think Maidenhead has one, but Bracknell certainly does: two towns both parts of pretty small but intensive unitary authorities. valleyviewboy

1:59pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Verdamus says...

I don't hear any call for Marlow to give up its town council, nor Princes Risborough. The same rules apply, councillor Scott! Why should one community have the right but not another?
If you came to life in High Wycombe, you might understand the antipathy there is to being ruled by a Tory majority from outside the town. How many members of your cabinet are from High Wycombe? Nowhere near 50%! - the proportion of \high Wycombe people to the total in the District.
I don't hear any call for Marlow to give up its town council, nor Princes Risborough. The same rules apply, councillor Scott! Why should one community have the right but not another? If you came to life in High Wycombe, you might understand the antipathy there is to being ruled by a Tory majority from outside the town. How many members of your cabinet are from High Wycombe? Nowhere near 50%! - the proportion of \high Wycombe people to the total in the District. Verdamus

2:03pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Darren Hayday says...

Verdamus wrote:
I don't hear any call for Marlow to give up its town council, nor Princes Risborough. The same rules apply, councillor Scott! Why should one community have the right but not another?
If you came to life in High Wycombe, you might understand the antipathy there is to being ruled by a Tory majority from outside the town. How many members of your cabinet are from High Wycombe? Nowhere near 50%! - the proportion of \high Wycombe people to the total in the District.
This is very true!
[quote][p][bold]Verdamus[/bold] wrote: I don't hear any call for Marlow to give up its town council, nor Princes Risborough. The same rules apply, councillor Scott! Why should one community have the right but not another? If you came to life in High Wycombe, you might understand the antipathy there is to being ruled by a Tory majority from outside the town. How many members of your cabinet are from High Wycombe? Nowhere near 50%! - the proportion of \high Wycombe people to the total in the District.[/p][/quote]This is very true! Darren Hayday

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