Fresh calls for HS2 report to be made public

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A COUNCIL boss has renewed calls for a key report on HS2 to be made public, amid claims the Prime Minister could halt its publication.

Chiltern District Council Leader Nick Rose said failing to make the findings of the Major Projects Authority public was 'morally corrupt' and a 'stifling of democracy' at the authority's meeting of the cabinet on Tuesday.

He referred to a recent article in the Sunday Telegraph, which claimed David Cameron may use his power of veto to deny publication of the report despite requests under the Freedom of Information Act.

The article referred to the report as having been 'supressed', saying it raised huge concerns about the project.

Cllr Rose said during the meeting: "This clearly contains information which is uncomfortable at best or potentially damaging to the HS2 initiative. There have been a number of attempts to obtain the information through FOI requests which have been unsuccessful.

"There is the possibility of a veto by Cameron himself to suppress and stifle this information, which should be released for the public good.

"[The council's] Cabinet has asked me to write to Francis Maude, who's cabinet member responsible for this with regard the release of information from the MPA report. This was being withheld against the public interest.

"We'd like to express our continued disbelief at the stifling of democracy in this way. We believe it to be morally corrupt - there's clearly information in this report that should be in the public domain."

Cllr Rose also revealed he met with HS2 director general David Prout and ministerial under secretary of state for transport Robert Goodwill on November 27 to raise concerns about the controversial project.

He was critical of the timescale provided for consultation on the scheme's environmental statement, with members of the public being given 56 days to read and respond to a 50,000 page report.

Cllr Rose said: "Technically it's 56 days but with reductions with weekends and Christmas it's 35, which we feel is grossly inadequate and I said as much."

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8:27am Thu 19 Dec 13

Darren Hayday says...

Dear Cllr Nick Rose, you should be aware by now that in the UK we do not have a true democracy. The PM has already decided that HS2 will go ahead and everything else is purely a formality.

Those of us that have seen the 'other side' of the political curtain, knows that it doesn’t matter what is right or what the people want, it’s all about deals that have already been done behind closed doors and that the bodies are already buried.

Labour, Tory or Libdems - makes no difference that’s at the top - no backbone and a rotten democracy!
Dear Cllr Nick Rose, you should be aware by now that in the UK we do not have a true democracy. The PM has already decided that HS2 will go ahead and everything else is purely a formality. Those of us that have seen the 'other side' of the political curtain, knows that it doesn’t matter what is right or what the people want, it’s all about deals that have already been done behind closed doors and that the bodies are already buried. Labour, Tory or Libdems - makes no difference that’s at the top - no backbone and a rotten democracy! Darren Hayday

5:53pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Windsorian says...

All this HS2 hysteria will make people ill.

It's almost Christmas, so get a life !
All this HS2 hysteria will make people ill. It's almost Christmas, so get a life ! Windsorian

9:33pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Minority Report says...

Windsorian wrote:
All this HS2 hysteria will make people ill.

It's almost Christmas, so get a life !
May be you would welcome this useless waste of public money going through your garden. Oddly I can not understand why all the politicians who believe and back this stupid project are not investing their life's saving and pension fund into it! This would save the public purse and they would reap the rewards they are certain HS2 will create. Many other counties including in Europe solved the capacity problem by having double decker trains, way to simple I know for our educated politicians. May be it's more about deals behind closed doors than being sensible with public money, the economy and national infrastructure.
[quote][p][bold]Windsorian[/bold] wrote: All this HS2 hysteria will make people ill. It's almost Christmas, so get a life ![/p][/quote]May be you would welcome this useless waste of public money going through your garden. Oddly I can not understand why all the politicians who believe and back this stupid project are not investing their life's saving and pension fund into it! This would save the public purse and they would reap the rewards they are certain HS2 will create. Many other counties including in Europe solved the capacity problem by having double decker trains, way to simple I know for our educated politicians. May be it's more about deals behind closed doors than being sensible with public money, the economy and national infrastructure. Minority Report

9:33pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Minority Report says...

Windsorian wrote:
All this HS2 hysteria will make people ill.

It's almost Christmas, so get a life !
May be you would welcome this useless waste of public money going through your garden. Oddly I can not understand why all the politicians who believe and back this stupid project are not investing their life's saving and pension fund into it! This would save the public purse and they would reap the rewards they are certain HS2 will create. Many other counties including in Europe solved the capacity problem by having double decker trains, way to simple I know for our educated politicians. May be it's more about deals behind closed doors than being sensible with public money, the economy and national infrastructure.
[quote][p][bold]Windsorian[/bold] wrote: All this HS2 hysteria will make people ill. It's almost Christmas, so get a life ![/p][/quote]May be you would welcome this useless waste of public money going through your garden. Oddly I can not understand why all the politicians who believe and back this stupid project are not investing their life's saving and pension fund into it! This would save the public purse and they would reap the rewards they are certain HS2 will create. Many other counties including in Europe solved the capacity problem by having double decker trains, way to simple I know for our educated politicians. May be it's more about deals behind closed doors than being sensible with public money, the economy and national infrastructure. Minority Report

10:46am Mon 23 Dec 13

Carl-Ake U says...

The HS2-project is a really bad solution. Of course thar is the best solution when there are no other better solutions. But there are and one of them is the German Transrapid with it´s newly developed version TR09. It was indeed a very calm and soft ride we made at their testplant in Lathen Germany in summer 2011. As I understand noone neither from Sweden nor Brittain have ride this new version.

Anyway the earlier version TR08 have been in commersial operation since 31st of December 2003. That is almost ten years.

From the beginning it had an avvailability of 99.7 percent for today lay on 99.98 percent. The total daily delay towards timetable is within seconds. The train system do have better result than the Japanese Shinkansen.

China implement an own designed low speed in Beijing China. The first line of totally seven lines. The S1-line 30 kilometre long will go from the third ring to city center in Beijing. They also construct a high speed version able of a top speed 500 km/h 311 mph.

Japan have extended their test track for Maglev from 18.2 kilometre to 42.7 kilometre. Test ride for ordinary people will be allowed in a couple of month. Start of operation in year 2027 between Tokyo and Nagoya. Also top speed 500 km/h.

A proposal for the German Maglev have been made via the UK Ultraspeed. There technical handbook have been almost unchanged sjnce beginning that is still valid.

London - Glasgow 800 kilometre double track will cost £16 bln for all the way.

As effect of shorter acceleration - and deceleration distance it can manage higher average speed about the double then wheel on rail HSR (High Speed Rail), that is higher passenger capacity lower maintenance costs as effect of contactfree operation, less environmently impact as effect of possible colocating to existing high ways.

Japan had said why they got that good result re their Shinkansen.
* Dedicated lines for passenger traffic.
* Dedicated lines for HSR that is Shinkansen.
To get shorteast possible travelling time, Shinkansen have to have frequent departure as well as calling at same station as ordinary train but on completely separated tracks. That means any compatibility is of no need.

The Maglev train operate on an uplifted track with prefabricated concrete segments every 25 metre. The building can be done in a short period of time. 129 kilometre in four years divided in one stage.

Compared to HSR it´s a cheeper solution, with extreme weather unindependent prestanda. Lack of mechanical tearing and wearing or mechanical parts to be replaced, more environmently friendly as effect of no catenary or ordinary brakes. No carbon dust or brake dust etc etc.

WHY DON´T TAKE THAT SOLUTION INSTEAD WITH ALMOST TEN YEARS EXPERIENCE.

Every single intermediate stop extend the travelling time with four extra minutes. Definitively more effective than the proposed HS2. You still have the upportonity to change.
The HS2-project is a really bad solution. Of course thar is the best solution when there are no other better solutions. But there are and one of them is the German Transrapid with it´s newly developed version TR09. It was indeed a very calm and soft ride we made at their testplant in Lathen Germany in summer 2011. As I understand noone neither from Sweden nor Brittain have ride this new version. Anyway the earlier version TR08 have been in commersial operation since 31st of December 2003. That is almost ten years. From the beginning it had an avvailability of 99.7 percent for today lay on 99.98 percent. The total daily delay towards timetable is within seconds. The train system do have better result than the Japanese Shinkansen. China implement an own designed low speed in Beijing China. The first line of totally seven lines. The S1-line 30 kilometre long will go from the third ring to city center in Beijing. They also construct a high speed version able of a top speed 500 km/h 311 mph. Japan have extended their test track for Maglev from 18.2 kilometre to 42.7 kilometre. Test ride for ordinary people will be allowed in a couple of month. Start of operation in year 2027 between Tokyo and Nagoya. Also top speed 500 km/h. A proposal for the German Maglev have been made via the UK Ultraspeed. There technical handbook have been almost unchanged sjnce beginning that is still valid. London - Glasgow 800 kilometre double track will cost £16 bln for all the way. As effect of shorter acceleration - and deceleration distance it can manage higher average speed about the double then wheel on rail HSR (High Speed Rail), that is higher passenger capacity lower maintenance costs as effect of contactfree operation, less environmently impact as effect of possible colocating to existing high ways. Japan had said why they got that good result re their Shinkansen. * Dedicated lines for passenger traffic. * Dedicated lines for HSR that is Shinkansen. To get shorteast possible travelling time, Shinkansen have to have frequent departure as well as calling at same station as ordinary train but on completely separated tracks. That means any compatibility is of no need. The Maglev train operate on an uplifted track with prefabricated concrete segments every 25 metre. The building can be done in a short period of time. 129 kilometre in four years divided in one stage. Compared to HSR it´s a cheeper solution, with extreme weather unindependent prestanda. Lack of mechanical tearing and wearing or mechanical parts to be replaced, more environmently friendly as effect of no catenary or ordinary brakes. No carbon dust or brake dust etc etc. WHY DON´T TAKE THAT SOLUTION INSTEAD WITH ALMOST TEN YEARS EXPERIENCE. Every single intermediate stop extend the travelling time with four extra minutes. Definitively more effective than the proposed HS2. You still have the upportonity to change. Carl-Ake U

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