Attorney General Dominic Grieve denies making racist remarks in Telegraph interview amid Wycombe Cllr's call for his resignation

Bucks Free Press: Attorney General denies using racist language after calls for resignation Attorney General denies using racist language after calls for resignation

THE Attorney General said claims he made racist comments in a newspaper interview are "complete nonsense" amid calls for his resignation from the future Mayor of High Wycombe.

Cllr Khalil Ahmed asked Wycombe District Council Cabinet members what was being done to promote racial cohesion in the district following the closure of the Wycombe Racial Equality Council in 2011.

He said the closure was of concern to residents of an ethnic minority as it would have helped with issues including police stop and search tactics and "the racist comments about British Pakistanis by Dominic Grieve".

The Disraeli councillor asked if the Conservative led-council would support Wycombe Labour’s call for Mr Grieve’s resignation at Thursday’s Full Council meeting.

Cllr John Gibbs, WDC's Cabinet member for Community, said "it’s not my place to call for any MP’s resignation" after stating he was confident residents still had access to the REC’s services via the Citizens Advice Bureau.

Cllr Ahmed was referring to an interview Mr Grieve, the MP for Beaconsfield, gave to The Telegraph in November.

It appeared on the frontpage of the paper under the headline ‘Minister: Corruption is rife in the Pakistani community’.

He was quoted as saying MPs needed to "wake up" to the issue of corruption, which has grown "because we have minority communities in this country which come from backgrounds where corruption is endemic."

Mr Grieve, who apologised for any offense his comments caused, said he was discussing the broad issue of electoral fraud and an example case in Slough which had been highlighted by the Electoral Commission.

The Attorney General today told the BFP: "It’s regretful the headline in The Telegraph didn’t represent what I said in the body of the story and I expressed my regret about the headline at the time, as I found it offensive.

"I attended a public meeting held by Steve Baker, which I believe was attended by Labour and community representatives. We had an extremely good discussion and I think they seemed very well satisfied [with my explanation].

"I also went on Awaaz Radio and have addressed the matter in various forms since. If Cllr Ahmed would like to contact me, I am always happy to meet with locally elected councillors if he has any concerns.

"No-one has ever suggested that I have ever made any racist remarks, not even Labour parliamentarians in Westminster, it is complete nonsense."

Mr Grieve stands by his comments about electoral corruption which, he said, was an issue of concern to him and should be to everyone else.

Wycombe Labour group leader Cllr Ian Bates said: "The Tories have tried to sweep the whole thing under the carpet. Well it won’t stay there. People remember what Mr Grieve said."

Tory Cllr Chaudhary Shafique, chairman of the Council for Wycombe Christian Muslim Relations, said the issue was "water under the bridge".

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3:48pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Ivor'sbestfriend says...

Facts are never prejudiced, obviously some people dislike the facts.
Facts are never prejudiced, obviously some people dislike the facts. Ivor'sbestfriend
  • Score: 18

4:25pm Wed 5 Mar 14

J B Blackett says...

Facts ? From politicians ? They who always speak the 'Truth' without fail. And never put their own spin on the 'facts' ?
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Wishful thinking , we are afraid.
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At least people one could see Pinocchio was lying (allegedly) , but with politicians - never. Not even a blink of their eye.
Facts ? From politicians ? They who always speak the 'Truth' without fail. And never put their own spin on the 'facts' ? . Wishful thinking , we are afraid. . At least people one could see Pinocchio was lying (allegedly) , but with politicians - never. Not even a blink of their eye. J B Blackett
  • Score: 0

4:39pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Scarletto says...

Seems like fuss about nought as he apologised and attended meeting. Some people are too touchy and swing a political axe with little need.
Seems like fuss about nought as he apologised and attended meeting. Some people are too touchy and swing a political axe with little need. Scarletto
  • Score: 21

5:21pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Welwyn Dowd says...

A racist incident encompasses ‘any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person’ (The Macpherson Report, 1999).
A racist incident encompasses ‘any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person’ (The Macpherson Report, 1999). Welwyn Dowd
  • Score: 0

7:58pm Wed 5 Mar 14

jayeatman says...

Welwyn, who, in this case, would be the victim?
That's a daft definition: So if I perceive somebody is being racist towards me no matter how paranoid, deluded or simply mendacious I am, that defines it as racist?
Welwyn, who, in this case, would be the victim? That's a daft definition: So if I perceive somebody is being racist towards me no matter how paranoid, deluded or simply mendacious I am, that defines it as racist? jayeatman
  • Score: 15

1:25am Thu 6 Mar 14

Dickitdo says...

Is this coming from Mister Unelected Mayor the man that won an unconstitutional name out of the hat Election ?. Should it be unelected or nonelected ?. Im not sure .
Is this coming from Mister Unelected Mayor the man that won an unconstitutional name out of the hat Election ?. Should it be unelected or nonelected ?. Im not sure . Dickitdo
  • Score: 23

10:43am Thu 6 Mar 14

sparky49 says...

Hold on a minute mayor elect. How many restaurants have been raided in the area over the last 2 years with overstayers being arrested, how big is the divide between younger generations who scream racism when their is no basis yet go around making snide racist remarks to White people.
I do not believe DG actually singled out the Pakistani community, if you read it that way then you are either over sensitive or there is some hidden guilt.
Corruption is everywhere even in politics.
People should stop looking for a stick to beat others with and learn to live with each other respecting different cultures, including the British culture.
Hold on a minute mayor elect. How many restaurants have been raided in the area over the last 2 years with overstayers being arrested, how big is the divide between younger generations who scream racism when their is no basis yet go around making snide racist remarks to White people. I do not believe DG actually singled out the Pakistani community, if you read it that way then you are either over sensitive or there is some hidden guilt. Corruption is everywhere even in politics. People should stop looking for a stick to beat others with and learn to live with each other respecting different cultures, including the British culture. sparky49
  • Score: 15

11:44am Thu 6 Mar 14

marlowbucks says...

"because we have minority communities in this country which come from backgrounds where corruption is endemic."
According to this:
http://www.transpare
ncy.org/cpi2013/resu
lts
Pakistan is no more corrupt than Russia, Mali or Nicaragua, so what's the problem? :-)
"because we have minority communities in this country which come from backgrounds where corruption is endemic." According to this: http://www.transpare ncy.org/cpi2013/resu lts Pakistan is no more corrupt than Russia, Mali or Nicaragua, so what's the problem? :-) marlowbucks
  • Score: 2

2:25pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Peter Beswick says...

Grieve is a liar, he lied to Parliament about Dr David Kelly, he will lie about anything to anyone.
Grieve is a liar, he lied to Parliament about Dr David Kelly, he will lie about anything to anyone. Peter Beswick
  • Score: -1

11:05pm Thu 6 Mar 14

121Truth says...

Really Mr Kahlil Ahmed !!! Let it go man.
I heard a young bloke (I think he was from labour party) challenged Mr Grieve at wycombe Library to point his finger toward other country/communities he will be force to resign within hours. Pakistan & its people have became a punching bag for people like you & others who blame everything on them.
Mr Grieve admitted that It was talking Conservative councilors who committed electoral corruption.
Sadly Mr Grieve refuse Sue the Reporter/Newspaper or ask for apology from them & to openly admit Tories rigged election !!
Really Mr Kahlil Ahmed !!! Let it go man. I heard a young bloke (I think he was from labour party) challenged Mr Grieve at wycombe Library to point his finger toward other country/communities he will be force to resign within hours. Pakistan & its people have became a punching bag for people like you & others who blame everything on them. Mr Grieve admitted that It was talking Conservative councilors who committed electoral corruption. Sadly Mr Grieve refuse Sue the Reporter/Newspaper or ask for apology from them & to openly admit Tories rigged election !! 121Truth
  • Score: -9

1:32am Fri 7 Mar 14

Dickitdo says...

sparky49 wrote:
Hold on a minute mayor elect. How many restaurants have been raided in the area over the last 2 years with overstayers being arrested, how big is the divide between younger generations who scream racism when their is no basis yet go around making snide racist remarks to White people.
I do not believe DG actually singled out the Pakistani community, if you read it that way then you are either over sensitive or there is some hidden guilt.
Corruption is everywhere even in politics.
People should stop looking for a stick to beat others with and learn to live with each other respecting different cultures, including the British culture.
Hang on a minute , please get it right .This person has not been elected in the true sense , his name was drawn from a hat unconstitutionally ,which is unfair to him and also unfair to other candidate , hence he is the Mr. Unelected Mayor.
[quote][p][bold]sparky49[/bold] wrote: Hold on a minute mayor elect. How many restaurants have been raided in the area over the last 2 years with overstayers being arrested, how big is the divide between younger generations who scream racism when their is no basis yet go around making snide racist remarks to White people. I do not believe DG actually singled out the Pakistani community, if you read it that way then you are either over sensitive or there is some hidden guilt. Corruption is everywhere even in politics. People should stop looking for a stick to beat others with and learn to live with each other respecting different cultures, including the British culture.[/p][/quote]Hang on a minute , please get it right .This person has not been elected in the true sense , his name was drawn from a hat unconstitutionally ,which is unfair to him and also unfair to other candidate , hence he is the Mr. Unelected Mayor. Dickitdo
  • Score: 16

8:55am Fri 7 Mar 14

MunsterX says...

I am sure the Electoral Commission are empowered to investigate these issues of electoral fraud and get right down to the nitty gritty of who voted for who, even though it is by definition the vote is secret, when reasonable suspicion is aroused the voting must be investigated with CCTV and all other means.

I suppose when you get 200 Ahmed's coming back to vote at the same polling station in one night, as well as 150 chicks wearing a head veil, those administering the poll are expected to turn a blind eye are they?

Electoral fraud is a very serious matter and I hope the Electoral Commission are given all the tools they need to get to the bottom of it as it sounds like the scale of the deceit has got the better of them in certain boroughs and wards.

Maybe start off with Disraeli ward? :-)
I am sure the Electoral Commission are empowered to investigate these issues of electoral fraud and get right down to the nitty gritty of who voted for who, even though it is by definition the vote is secret, when reasonable suspicion is aroused the voting must be investigated with CCTV and all other means. I suppose when you get 200 Ahmed's coming back to vote at the same polling station in one night, as well as 150 chicks wearing a head veil, those administering the poll are expected to turn a blind eye are they? Electoral fraud is a very serious matter and I hope the Electoral Commission are given all the tools they need to get to the bottom of it as it sounds like the scale of the deceit has got the better of them in certain boroughs and wards. Maybe start off with Disraeli ward? :-) MunsterX
  • Score: 3

9:24am Fri 7 Mar 14

jayeatman says...

Electoral fraud is indeed an extremely serious matter and anyone who alleges it had better have some pretty good evidence (MunsterX). It seems to me the the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli Ward makes it a pretty safe seat for Labour candidate of Pakistani ethnicity. Turnout in Disraeli was very similar to other wards so I somehow doubt fraud in Wycombe. That's not to say it hasn't happened in other parts of the country of course.
Electoral fraud is indeed an extremely serious matter and anyone who alleges it had better have some pretty good evidence (MunsterX). It seems to me the the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli Ward makes it a pretty safe seat for Labour candidate of Pakistani ethnicity. Turnout in Disraeli was very similar to other wards so I somehow doubt fraud in Wycombe. That's not to say it hasn't happened in other parts of the country of course. jayeatman
  • Score: -2

12:11pm Fri 7 Mar 14

MunsterX says...

jayeatman wrote:
Electoral fraud is indeed an extremely serious matter and anyone who alleges it had better have some pretty good evidence (MunsterX). It seems to me the the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli Ward makes it a pretty safe seat for Labour candidate of Pakistani ethnicity. Turnout in Disraeli was very similar to other wards so I somehow doubt fraud in Wycombe. That's not to say it hasn't happened in other parts of the country of course.
What does the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli ward have to do with the ethnicity of a successful candidate Jayeatman?

Are you suggesting that Pakistanis only vote for Pakistanis? If this is accurate you are averring that the Pakistani community is narrow minded or it is inaccurate and you are a bigot. Maybe you could clarify, do Pakistanis really vote for Pakistanis?
[quote][p][bold]jayeatman[/bold] wrote: Electoral fraud is indeed an extremely serious matter and anyone who alleges it had better have some pretty good evidence (MunsterX). It seems to me the the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli Ward makes it a pretty safe seat for Labour candidate of Pakistani ethnicity. Turnout in Disraeli was very similar to other wards so I somehow doubt fraud in Wycombe. That's not to say it hasn't happened in other parts of the country of course.[/p][/quote]What does the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli ward have to do with the ethnicity of a successful candidate Jayeatman? Are you suggesting that Pakistanis only vote for Pakistanis? If this is accurate you are averring that the Pakistani community is narrow minded or it is inaccurate and you are a bigot. Maybe you could clarify, do Pakistanis really vote for Pakistanis? MunsterX
  • Score: 0

12:13pm Fri 7 Mar 14

MunsterX says...

Peter Beswick wrote:
Grieve is a liar, he lied to Parliament about Dr David Kelly, he will lie about anything to anyone.
Peter, you have just called our Attorney General a liar, hadn't you better take that back or provide evidence to substantiate your claim?
[quote][p][bold]Peter Beswick[/bold] wrote: Grieve is a liar, he lied to Parliament about Dr David Kelly, he will lie about anything to anyone.[/p][/quote]Peter, you have just called our Attorney General a liar, hadn't you better take that back or provide evidence to substantiate your claim? MunsterX
  • Score: 5

12:40pm Fri 7 Mar 14

jayeatman says...

MunsterX wrote:
jayeatman wrote:
Electoral fraud is indeed an extremely serious matter and anyone who alleges it had better have some pretty good evidence (MunsterX). It seems to me the the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli Ward makes it a pretty safe seat for Labour candidate of Pakistani ethnicity. Turnout in Disraeli was very similar to other wards so I somehow doubt fraud in Wycombe. That's not to say it hasn't happened in other parts of the country of course.
What does the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli ward have to do with the ethnicity of a successful candidate Jayeatman?

Are you suggesting that Pakistanis only vote for Pakistanis? If this is accurate you are averring that the Pakistani community is narrow minded or it is inaccurate and you are a bigot. Maybe you could clarify, do Pakistanis really vote for Pakistanis?
I am suggesting the people of ANY ethnicity, are more likely to vote for someone whom they can associate with, better understands their issues and represent them better because of it. That makes them human, not narrow-minded.
Being called a bigot by somebody who refers to '200 Ahmeds and 150 chicks wearing a head veil' is mildly risible.
[quote][p][bold]MunsterX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayeatman[/bold] wrote: Electoral fraud is indeed an extremely serious matter and anyone who alleges it had better have some pretty good evidence (MunsterX). It seems to me the the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli Ward makes it a pretty safe seat for Labour candidate of Pakistani ethnicity. Turnout in Disraeli was very similar to other wards so I somehow doubt fraud in Wycombe. That's not to say it hasn't happened in other parts of the country of course.[/p][/quote]What does the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli ward have to do with the ethnicity of a successful candidate Jayeatman? Are you suggesting that Pakistanis only vote for Pakistanis? If this is accurate you are averring that the Pakistani community is narrow minded or it is inaccurate and you are a bigot. Maybe you could clarify, do Pakistanis really vote for Pakistanis?[/p][/quote]I am suggesting the people of ANY ethnicity, are more likely to vote for someone whom they can associate with, better understands their issues and represent them better because of it. That makes them human, not narrow-minded. Being called a bigot by somebody who refers to '200 Ahmeds and 150 chicks wearing a head veil' is mildly risible. jayeatman
  • Score: 2

1:14pm Fri 7 Mar 14

MunsterX says...

jayeatman wrote:
MunsterX wrote:
jayeatman wrote:
Electoral fraud is indeed an extremely serious matter and anyone who alleges it had better have some pretty good evidence (MunsterX). It seems to me the the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli Ward makes it a pretty safe seat for Labour candidate of Pakistani ethnicity. Turnout in Disraeli was very similar to other wards so I somehow doubt fraud in Wycombe. That's not to say it hasn't happened in other parts of the country of course.
What does the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli ward have to do with the ethnicity of a successful candidate Jayeatman?

Are you suggesting that Pakistanis only vote for Pakistanis? If this is accurate you are averring that the Pakistani community is narrow minded or it is inaccurate and you are a bigot. Maybe you could clarify, do Pakistanis really vote for Pakistanis?
I am suggesting the people of ANY ethnicity, are more likely to vote for someone whom they can associate with, better understands their issues and represent them better because of it. That makes them human, not narrow-minded.
Being called a bigot by somebody who refers to '200 Ahmeds and 150 chicks wearing a head veil' is mildly risible.
Well I am sure every Pakistani in HW will be delighted Jayeatman that now you have acknowledged "them" as "human"!
[quote][p][bold]jayeatman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MunsterX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayeatman[/bold] wrote: Electoral fraud is indeed an extremely serious matter and anyone who alleges it had better have some pretty good evidence (MunsterX). It seems to me the the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli Ward makes it a pretty safe seat for Labour candidate of Pakistani ethnicity. Turnout in Disraeli was very similar to other wards so I somehow doubt fraud in Wycombe. That's not to say it hasn't happened in other parts of the country of course.[/p][/quote]What does the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli ward have to do with the ethnicity of a successful candidate Jayeatman? Are you suggesting that Pakistanis only vote for Pakistanis? If this is accurate you are averring that the Pakistani community is narrow minded or it is inaccurate and you are a bigot. Maybe you could clarify, do Pakistanis really vote for Pakistanis?[/p][/quote]I am suggesting the people of ANY ethnicity, are more likely to vote for someone whom they can associate with, better understands their issues and represent them better because of it. That makes them human, not narrow-minded. Being called a bigot by somebody who refers to '200 Ahmeds and 150 chicks wearing a head veil' is mildly risible.[/p][/quote]Well I am sure every Pakistani in HW will be delighted Jayeatman that now you have acknowledged "them" as "human"! MunsterX
  • Score: 0

1:40am Sat 8 Mar 14

Dickitdo says...

jayeatman wrote:
Electoral fraud is indeed an extremely serious matter and anyone who alleges it had better have some pretty good evidence (MunsterX). It seems to me the the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli Ward makes it a pretty safe seat for Labour candidate of Pakistani ethnicity. Turnout in Disraeli was very similar to other wards so I somehow doubt fraud in Wycombe. That's not to say it hasn't happened in other parts of the country of course.
Maybe you don' t get out enough . A friend of mine whose polling station was in Micklefield was unable to vote on one occasion , his way was blocked by private hire cars and others , Please draw your own conclusions !
[quote][p][bold]jayeatman[/bold] wrote: Electoral fraud is indeed an extremely serious matter and anyone who alleges it had better have some pretty good evidence (MunsterX). It seems to me the the social and ethnic demographic of the Disraeli Ward makes it a pretty safe seat for Labour candidate of Pakistani ethnicity. Turnout in Disraeli was very similar to other wards so I somehow doubt fraud in Wycombe. That's not to say it hasn't happened in other parts of the country of course.[/p][/quote]Maybe you don' t get out enough . A friend of mine whose polling station was in Micklefield was unable to vote on one occasion , his way was blocked by private hire cars and others , Please draw your own conclusions ! Dickitdo
  • Score: 14

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