RAF said they were given permission to pump water onto road

RAF said they were given permission to pump water onto road

RAF said they were given permission to pump water onto road

First published in News Bucks Free Press: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

WATER pumped away from an electricity substation by the RAF has been causing delays for drivers in Saunderton.

Council workers have been working around the clock to reduce flooding in the village, which has been blighting the area for more than two weeks.

Traffic lights have been put up on the A4010 Wycombe Road at the junction with Slough Lane.

Yesterday it was revealed staff at RAF High Wycombe were given permission by Transport for Bucks (TfB) to pump water away from the Saunderton substation onto the road to go into storm drains to avoid power outage.

TfB, Bucks County Council's Highways Agency, has been in Saunderton 24 hours a day to alleviate the floodwater using a static pump and two 30,000 litre tankers.

Mike Blackwell, who lives at Deanfield Close, said on Wednesday evening one of the pumps broke down and flood water rose rapidly. By 10.30pm another one was in place.

He said: "The tankers have been brilliant. If it wasn't for them we would be wearing flippers."

He said there have been lengthy queues during rush hour due to the traffic lights, and council workers have had to stop traffic for the large number of ambulances which use the road.

He said: "People said it was a bad idea to move the A&E to Stoke. The main road connects the whole of Bucks.

"It is the main join up point for traffic on the motorways.

"If this road gets closed because of flooding it is going to be absolute mayhem."

Dan Elworthy, a spokesman for TfB, said until water levels subside, they are unable to determine the source of the flooding.

The council has provided 550 sandbags for residents and built sandbag walls.

He said: "Traffic lights remain on the A4010 to manage traffic in a safe manner whilst flood water remains on the carriageway.

"All the above measures are to try to ensure that part of this key road is kept open whilst flooding occurs, as well as helping the local residents affected by this event."

An MOD spokesman said: "On Friday staff at RAF High Wycombe became aware that the water level within Saunderton Sub-Station was rising, risking power supply to both the RAF station and Saunderton village.

"In order to avoid a power outage it was decided, with the permission of Buckinghamshire highways agency (Transport for Bucks), to pump the excess water onto the road to allow storm drains to transport it away.

"On Sunday staff were advised by the highways agency that the drains had reached capacity and pumping was stopped immediately. The water is now being removed using tankers."

However, a statement from a TfB spokesman in reply to this said yesterday: "We cooperated with the MOD for them to alleviate their flooding problem, by discharging excess water in to the adjacent highways ditches, but did not give direct permission to pump directly on to the road."

FURTHER down in Bradenham Road, West Wycombe residents have had to cope with flooding in their back gardens for more than a week.

Helen Fiordelisi said the water comes up to their back door but no-one seems willing to help.

Water was initially pumped away from the Saunderton site towards West Wycombe, until they realised it was affecting householders, and they are now using tankers.

Her sons, 19 and 24, are staying at friends, so the household can use as little water as possible.

Mrs Fiordelisi and her husband, Marcus, had been off work since last Thursday trying to contain the water.

Mr Fiordelisi said his wife went back into work yesterday but he has had to stay at home.

He said: "I am conscious that if it starts raining it will go up again. If there is no one here it will go in the house."

Spokesman for Thames Water, Becky Trotman, said: "Our sewer network has been overwhelmed by floodwater from rivers and groundwater and this has unfortunately led to it backing up and dilute waste water spilling out from manholes."

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7:03pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Dickitdo says...

How can we live with such incompetence ! . These are the people that are supposed to protect us ! Why did they not use tankers to transport the water away from the electricity substation . It would appear that , whoever it was at R.A.F. High Wycombe that ordered that this action to be taken has effectively ruined persons lives down in West Wycombe they have flooded gardens , people have had to employ sandbags in an attempt to protect their homes from flooding !. I do sincerely hope that they send some personnel down to assist these people in clearing up the mess that they have been the cause of . to say nothing for the inconvenience to the traffic on the A4010 and the holding up of ambulances on route to Stoke Mandeville hospital with injured people on board .
How can we live with such incompetence ! . These are the people that are supposed to protect us ! Why did they not use tankers to transport the water away from the electricity substation . It would appear that , whoever it was at R.A.F. High Wycombe that ordered that this action to be taken has effectively ruined persons lives down in West Wycombe they have flooded gardens , people have had to employ sandbags in an attempt to protect their homes from flooding !. I do sincerely hope that they send some personnel down to assist these people in clearing up the mess that they have been the cause of . to say nothing for the inconvenience to the traffic on the A4010 and the holding up of ambulances on route to Stoke Mandeville hospital with injured people on board . Dickitdo
  • Score: 32

10:14pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Darren Hayday says...

I have been in contact with the residents of Bradenham Road earlier in the week but I've just sent an email to the powers that be in BCC to insist that we go down to help with the clear up in West Wycombe as a result of this **** up.
I have been in contact with the residents of Bradenham Road earlier in the week but I've just sent an email to the powers that be in BCC to insist that we go down to help with the clear up in West Wycombe as a result of this **** up. Darren Hayday
  • Score: 12

12:26pm Sat 8 Mar 14

bluebanana says...

Dickitdo wrote:
How can we live with such incompetence ! . These are the people that are supposed to protect us ! Why did they not use tankers to transport the water away from the electricity substation . It would appear that , whoever it was at R.A.F. High Wycombe that ordered that this action to be taken has effectively ruined persons lives down in West Wycombe they have flooded gardens , people have had to employ sandbags in an attempt to protect their homes from flooding !. I do sincerely hope that they send some personnel down to assist these people in clearing up the mess that they have been the cause of . to say nothing for the inconvenience to the traffic on the A4010 and the holding up of ambulances on route to Stoke Mandeville hospital with injured people on board .
Tankers? Seriously!? Then i'm sure you'd complain at the 24/7 convoy of tankers required. As soon as its pumped/tankered away, more water takes its place. Thats groundwater flooding for you!

Protecting the substation is a priority. A bit of congestion is not. Unfortunately.
[quote][p][bold]Dickitdo[/bold] wrote: How can we live with such incompetence ! . These are the people that are supposed to protect us ! Why did they not use tankers to transport the water away from the electricity substation . It would appear that , whoever it was at R.A.F. High Wycombe that ordered that this action to be taken has effectively ruined persons lives down in West Wycombe they have flooded gardens , people have had to employ sandbags in an attempt to protect their homes from flooding !. I do sincerely hope that they send some personnel down to assist these people in clearing up the mess that they have been the cause of . to say nothing for the inconvenience to the traffic on the A4010 and the holding up of ambulances on route to Stoke Mandeville hospital with injured people on board .[/p][/quote]Tankers? Seriously!? Then i'm sure you'd complain at the 24/7 convoy of tankers required. As soon as its pumped/tankered away, more water takes its place. Thats groundwater flooding for you! Protecting the substation is a priority. A bit of congestion is not. Unfortunately. bluebanana
  • Score: -23

2:09pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Dickitdo says...

bluebanana wrote:
Dickitdo wrote:
How can we live with such incompetence ! . These are the people that are supposed to protect us ! Why did they not use tankers to transport the water away from the electricity substation . It would appear that , whoever it was at R.A.F. High Wycombe that ordered that this action to be taken has effectively ruined persons lives down in West Wycombe they have flooded gardens , people have had to employ sandbags in an attempt to protect their homes from flooding !. I do sincerely hope that they send some personnel down to assist these people in clearing up the mess that they have been the cause of . to say nothing for the inconvenience to the traffic on the A4010 and the holding up of ambulances on route to Stoke Mandeville hospital with injured people on board .
Tankers? Seriously!? Then i'm sure you'd complain at the 24/7 convoy of tankers required. As soon as its pumped/tankered away, more water takes its place. Thats groundwater flooding for you!

Protecting the substation is a priority. A bit of congestion is not. Unfortunately.
I would suggest that you read the article , before making inane comments on what I have written . Or is it that you are somewhat Moronic ?.
[quote][p][bold]bluebanana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dickitdo[/bold] wrote: How can we live with such incompetence ! . These are the people that are supposed to protect us ! Why did they not use tankers to transport the water away from the electricity substation . It would appear that , whoever it was at R.A.F. High Wycombe that ordered that this action to be taken has effectively ruined persons lives down in West Wycombe they have flooded gardens , people have had to employ sandbags in an attempt to protect their homes from flooding !. I do sincerely hope that they send some personnel down to assist these people in clearing up the mess that they have been the cause of . to say nothing for the inconvenience to the traffic on the A4010 and the holding up of ambulances on route to Stoke Mandeville hospital with injured people on board .[/p][/quote]Tankers? Seriously!? Then i'm sure you'd complain at the 24/7 convoy of tankers required. As soon as its pumped/tankered away, more water takes its place. Thats groundwater flooding for you! Protecting the substation is a priority. A bit of congestion is not. Unfortunately.[/p][/quote]I would suggest that you read the article , before making inane comments on what I have written . Or is it that you are somewhat Moronic ?. Dickitdo
  • Score: 24

2:10pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Dickitdo says...

bluebanana wrote:
Dickitdo wrote:
How can we live with such incompetence ! . These are the people that are supposed to protect us ! Why did they not use tankers to transport the water away from the electricity substation . It would appear that , whoever it was at R.A.F. High Wycombe that ordered that this action to be taken has effectively ruined persons lives down in West Wycombe they have flooded gardens , people have had to employ sandbags in an attempt to protect their homes from flooding !. I do sincerely hope that they send some personnel down to assist these people in clearing up the mess that they have been the cause of . to say nothing for the inconvenience to the traffic on the A4010 and the holding up of ambulances on route to Stoke Mandeville hospital with injured people on board .
Tankers? Seriously!? Then i'm sure you'd complain at the 24/7 convoy of tankers required. As soon as its pumped/tankered away, more water takes its place. Thats groundwater flooding for you!

Protecting the substation is a priority. A bit of congestion is not. Unfortunately.
I would suggest that you read the article , before making inane comments on what I have written . Or is it that you are somewhat Moronic ?.
[quote][p][bold]bluebanana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dickitdo[/bold] wrote: How can we live with such incompetence ! . These are the people that are supposed to protect us ! Why did they not use tankers to transport the water away from the electricity substation . It would appear that , whoever it was at R.A.F. High Wycombe that ordered that this action to be taken has effectively ruined persons lives down in West Wycombe they have flooded gardens , people have had to employ sandbags in an attempt to protect their homes from flooding !. I do sincerely hope that they send some personnel down to assist these people in clearing up the mess that they have been the cause of . to say nothing for the inconvenience to the traffic on the A4010 and the holding up of ambulances on route to Stoke Mandeville hospital with injured people on board .[/p][/quote]Tankers? Seriously!? Then i'm sure you'd complain at the 24/7 convoy of tankers required. As soon as its pumped/tankered away, more water takes its place. Thats groundwater flooding for you! Protecting the substation is a priority. A bit of congestion is not. Unfortunately.[/p][/quote]I would suggest that you read the article , before making inane comments on what I have written . Or is it that you are somewhat Moronic ?. Dickitdo
  • Score: 24

8:14pm Sat 8 Mar 14

bluebanana says...

Yeah i read what you had spewed out in between bursts of laughter and frowns of confusion. Try reading up on what groundwater flooding actually is and then realise that suggesting tankers makes you look like a fool.
Yeah i read what you had spewed out in between bursts of laughter and frowns of confusion. Try reading up on what groundwater flooding actually is and then realise that suggesting tankers makes you look like a fool. bluebanana
  • Score: -19

8:46pm Sat 8 Mar 14

allrightnow2 says...

bluebanana wrote:
Dickitdo wrote:
How can we live with such incompetence ! . These are the people that are supposed to protect us ! Why did they not use tankers to transport the water away from the electricity substation . It would appear that , whoever it was at R.A.F. High Wycombe that ordered that this action to be taken has effectively ruined persons lives down in West Wycombe they have flooded gardens , people have had to employ sandbags in an attempt to protect their homes from flooding !. I do sincerely hope that they send some personnel down to assist these people in clearing up the mess that they have been the cause of . to say nothing for the inconvenience to the traffic on the A4010 and the holding up of ambulances on route to Stoke Mandeville hospital with injured people on board .
Tankers? Seriously!? Then i'm sure you'd complain at the 24/7 convoy of tankers required. As soon as its pumped/tankered away, more water takes its place. Thats groundwater flooding for you!

Protecting the substation is a priority. A bit of congestion is not. Unfortunately.
Protecting the substation is a priority but ambulances being able to get to Stoke Mandeville without delay also needs to be a priority. Therefore i'd rather have the tankers any day/night.
[quote][p][bold]bluebanana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dickitdo[/bold] wrote: How can we live with such incompetence ! . These are the people that are supposed to protect us ! Why did they not use tankers to transport the water away from the electricity substation . It would appear that , whoever it was at R.A.F. High Wycombe that ordered that this action to be taken has effectively ruined persons lives down in West Wycombe they have flooded gardens , people have had to employ sandbags in an attempt to protect their homes from flooding !. I do sincerely hope that they send some personnel down to assist these people in clearing up the mess that they have been the cause of . to say nothing for the inconvenience to the traffic on the A4010 and the holding up of ambulances on route to Stoke Mandeville hospital with injured people on board .[/p][/quote]Tankers? Seriously!? Then i'm sure you'd complain at the 24/7 convoy of tankers required. As soon as its pumped/tankered away, more water takes its place. Thats groundwater flooding for you! Protecting the substation is a priority. A bit of congestion is not. Unfortunately.[/p][/quote]Protecting the substation is a priority but ambulances being able to get to Stoke Mandeville without delay also needs to be a priority. Therefore i'd rather have the tankers any day/night. allrightnow2
  • Score: 24

8:48pm Sat 8 Mar 14

allrightnow2 says...

bluebanana wrote:
Yeah i read what you had spewed out in between bursts of laughter and frowns of confusion. Try reading up on what groundwater flooding actually is and then realise that suggesting tankers makes you look like a fool.
But they are using tankers now so not that foolish. It just means instead of being pumped into the road it's being pumped into a tanker and taken somewhere else. As long as there are enough tankers for one to always be there....
[quote][p][bold]bluebanana[/bold] wrote: Yeah i read what you had spewed out in between bursts of laughter and frowns of confusion. Try reading up on what groundwater flooding actually is and then realise that suggesting tankers makes you look like a fool.[/p][/quote]But they are using tankers now so not that foolish. It just means instead of being pumped into the road it's being pumped into a tanker and taken somewhere else. As long as there are enough tankers for one to always be there.... allrightnow2
  • Score: 25

2:44am Sun 9 Mar 14

Dickitdo says...

bluebanana wrote:
Yeah i read what you had spewed out in between bursts of laughter and frowns of confusion. Try reading up on what groundwater flooding actually is and then realise that suggesting tankers makes you look like a fool.
I had better explain in simple terms as it would seem as you are obviously very lacking in the comprehension dept . Tankers are being used to take the flood water away from Slough Lane !. Can you not understand why the tankers were not deployed to remove the flood water from the electric sub station , that is where the water was coming from .Instead of pumping onto the road and cause more problems for every body including people that need to use the road , and houses down the road that were in danger of flooding , to say nothing of the seriously injured persons being transport to A. E. at Stoke Mandeville hospital . Now if you are still unable to understand you are a bigger idiot than you give yourself credit for ! please do not bother replying , as I do not suffer fools gladly .
[quote][p][bold]bluebanana[/bold] wrote: Yeah i read what you had spewed out in between bursts of laughter and frowns of confusion. Try reading up on what groundwater flooding actually is and then realise that suggesting tankers makes you look like a fool.[/p][/quote]I had better explain in simple terms as it would seem as you are obviously very lacking in the comprehension dept . Tankers are being used to take the flood water away from Slough Lane !. Can you not understand why the tankers were not deployed to remove the flood water from the electric sub station , that is where the water was coming from .Instead of pumping onto the road and cause more problems for every body including people that need to use the road , and houses down the road that were in danger of flooding , to say nothing of the seriously injured persons being transport to A. E. at Stoke Mandeville hospital . Now if you are still unable to understand you are a bigger idiot than you give yourself credit for ! please do not bother replying , as I do not suffer fools gladly . Dickitdo
  • Score: 22

2:46am Sun 9 Mar 14

Dickitdo says...

bluebanana wrote:
Yeah i read what you had spewed out in between bursts of laughter and frowns of confusion. Try reading up on what groundwater flooding actually is and then realise that suggesting tankers makes you look like a fool.
I had better explain in simple terms as it would seem as you are obviously very lacking in the comprehension dept . Tankers are being used to take the flood water away from Slough Lane !. Can you not understand why the tankers were not deployed to remove the flood water from the electric sub station , that is where the water was coming from .Instead of pumping onto the road and cause more problems for every body including people that need to use the road , and houses down the road that were in danger of flooding , to say nothing of the seriously injured persons being transport to A. E. at Stoke Mandeville hospital . Now if you are still unable to understand you are a bigger idiot than you give yourself credit for ! please do not bother replying , as I do not suffer fools gladly .
[quote][p][bold]bluebanana[/bold] wrote: Yeah i read what you had spewed out in between bursts of laughter and frowns of confusion. Try reading up on what groundwater flooding actually is and then realise that suggesting tankers makes you look like a fool.[/p][/quote]I had better explain in simple terms as it would seem as you are obviously very lacking in the comprehension dept . Tankers are being used to take the flood water away from Slough Lane !. Can you not understand why the tankers were not deployed to remove the flood water from the electric sub station , that is where the water was coming from .Instead of pumping onto the road and cause more problems for every body including people that need to use the road , and houses down the road that were in danger of flooding , to say nothing of the seriously injured persons being transport to A. E. at Stoke Mandeville hospital . Now if you are still unable to understand you are a bigger idiot than you give yourself credit for ! please do not bother replying , as I do not suffer fools gladly . Dickitdo
  • Score: 17

11:21am Sun 9 Mar 14

bluebanana says...

I wish i also felt so important that I had to post everything twice. I'm ever so grateful for you putting it so simply for me. Many thanks, I now understand!! It's a shame you hadn't entered politics many years ago and put your brain to good use as with you pulling the strings, the country would be a much better place. It's funny isn't it, a bit of flooding and all of a sudden everyone is a hydrologist!
I wish i also felt so important that I had to post everything twice. I'm ever so grateful for you putting it so simply for me. Many thanks, I now understand!! It's a shame you hadn't entered politics many years ago and put your brain to good use as with you pulling the strings, the country would be a much better place. It's funny isn't it, a bit of flooding and all of a sudden everyone is a hydrologist! bluebanana
  • Score: -15

1:08am Mon 10 Mar 14

Dickitdo says...

bluebanana wrote:
I wish i also felt so important that I had to post everything twice. I'm ever so grateful for you putting it so simply for me. Many thanks, I now understand!! It's a shame you hadn't entered politics many years ago and put your brain to good use as with you pulling the strings, the country would be a much better place. It's funny isn't it, a bit of flooding and all of a sudden everyone is a hydrologist!
I had to post it twice because I knew you would not understand if I put it on just once , what with you being a bit slow, but never mind you got there in the end, I would hate to go into politics because I would hate to keep repeating myself to thickos. Ring any bells ! .
[quote][p][bold]bluebanana[/bold] wrote: I wish i also felt so important that I had to post everything twice. I'm ever so grateful for you putting it so simply for me. Many thanks, I now understand!! It's a shame you hadn't entered politics many years ago and put your brain to good use as with you pulling the strings, the country would be a much better place. It's funny isn't it, a bit of flooding and all of a sudden everyone is a hydrologist![/p][/quote]I had to post it twice because I knew you would not understand if I put it on just once , what with you being a bit slow, but never mind you got there in the end, I would hate to go into politics because I would hate to keep repeating myself to thickos. Ring any bells ! . Dickitdo
  • Score: 16

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