Downley pub set to be converted in to Morrisons store

Downley pub set to be converted in Morrisons store

Downley pub set to be converted in Morrisons store

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A PUB in Downley is set to be converted into a Morrisons convenience store – which a resident believes would a “massive blow to the village.”

The Downley Donkey in Plomer Green Lane is expected to become a Morrisons’ M Local store, the Free Press has learnt.

The supermarket giant confirmed today that it was in “the early stages of planning” and it will share its plans with residents “as things progress”.

In a statement, Enterprise Inns said: “Enterprise has continued to invest in The Downley Donkey in recent years.

“But despite advertising the permanent lease during that time we have not received any viable long-term offers from prospective publicans.”

Downley Parish Council Chairman Cllr Barry Gay said the first the council had heard about the proposals was on Friday.

He said the council was “very concerned” but would not comment further until additional information about the plans had been revealed.

Resident and Donkey regular Paul Brookes said: “It’s a massive blow to Downley. It’s another nail in the coffin for local traders in the area.

“It’s also another place gone for the community to go to socialise. The feeling is strong in Downley; it would be a massive loss to the village.”

He added residents and shopkeepers planned to launch a petition in a bid to prevent the pub from being turned into a convenience store.

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5:38pm Mon 24 Mar 14

am i the only sane one says...

The Donkey used to be a lovely pub a years ago but with the chavs, drugs and lock in's it changed so much, not a happy place to be and I certainly wouldn't take my children there now! Good luck Morrisons, I think its a great idea!
The Donkey used to be a lovely pub a years ago but with the chavs, drugs and lock in's it changed so much, not a happy place to be and I certainly wouldn't take my children there now! Good luck Morrisons, I think its a great idea! am i the only sane one
  • Score: 15

6:10pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Casey1993 says...

I think this is a terrible idea! Think of all the other shops in the village, why do we need a Morrisons when there is a lovely little Tesco express just down the road?! Ridiculous! Bcc need to think about what they are doing because this is only going to anger not only the businesses but the local people aswell. I will be sure to sign that petition.
I think this is a terrible idea! Think of all the other shops in the village, why do we need a Morrisons when there is a lovely little Tesco express just down the road?! Ridiculous! Bcc need to think about what they are doing because this is only going to anger not only the businesses but the local people aswell. I will be sure to sign that petition. Casey1993
  • Score: -9

6:46pm Mon 24 Mar 14

stir up says...

To Cassey1993 This has nothing to do with BCC it is a district council issue.
To Cassey1993 This has nothing to do with BCC it is a district council issue. stir up
  • Score: 2

7:44pm Mon 24 Mar 14

marlow12 says...

Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves
Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves marlow12
  • Score: 6

8:04pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Anita21072 says...

marlow12 wrote:
Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves
I couldn't agree more! I also grew up in Downley and still live there. I think a morrisons local will be an asset to the village and I will definitely use it unlike the drug den pub
[quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more! I also grew up in Downley and still live there. I think a morrisons local will be an asset to the village and I will definitely use it unlike the drug den pub Anita21072
  • Score: 4

8:48pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Old Rebel says...

Has anyone who has given a negative review of the Donkey been there in recent weeks. The landlord is a great guy who has kicked out the bad element and put in an offer for the pub but was gazumped by Morrisons. This report regarding what Enterprise has said makes me so angry, as the landlord has clearly indicated he wants to continue with the pub. They have placed a variety of unsuitable landlords despite reassuring us that they have the best interests of the community at heart. This was clearly what they had in mind. Now because the pub is no longer in the hands of Enterprise it probably means that the site will either become a Morrisons or housing. Downley Parish Council its time to step up. If the store goes ahead this will put paid to the local shop and we will end up with another takeaway shop.
Has anyone who has given a negative review of the Donkey been there in recent weeks. The landlord is a great guy who has kicked out the bad element and put in an offer for the pub but was gazumped by Morrisons. This report regarding what Enterprise has said makes me so angry, as the landlord has clearly indicated he wants to continue with the pub. They have placed a variety of unsuitable landlords despite reassuring us that they have the best interests of the community at heart. This was clearly what they had in mind. Now because the pub is no longer in the hands of Enterprise it probably means that the site will either become a Morrisons or housing. Downley Parish Council its time to step up. If the store goes ahead this will put paid to the local shop and we will end up with another takeaway shop. Old Rebel
  • Score: 20

9:09pm Mon 24 Mar 14

marlow12 says...

Old Rebel wrote:
Has anyone who has given a negative review of the Donkey been there in recent weeks. The landlord is a great guy who has kicked out the bad element and put in an offer for the pub but was gazumped by Morrisons. This report regarding what Enterprise has said makes me so angry, as the landlord has clearly indicated he wants to continue with the pub. They have placed a variety of unsuitable landlords despite reassuring us that they have the best interests of the community at heart. This was clearly what they had in mind. Now because the pub is no longer in the hands of Enterprise it probably means that the site will either become a Morrisons or housing. Downley Parish Council its time to step up. If the store goes ahead this will put paid to the local shop and we will end up with another takeaway shop.
Then it should be you local put your foot down and get it turning a profit make it look welcoming stop the chavs and drugies using it and before you jump on your high horse yes I can say that I'm downley born and bread and again before you say anything if it does get turned into a Morrison's at least it will bea shop that will be well stocked uunlike other shops in the local area
[quote][p][bold]Old Rebel[/bold] wrote: Has anyone who has given a negative review of the Donkey been there in recent weeks. The landlord is a great guy who has kicked out the bad element and put in an offer for the pub but was gazumped by Morrisons. This report regarding what Enterprise has said makes me so angry, as the landlord has clearly indicated he wants to continue with the pub. They have placed a variety of unsuitable landlords despite reassuring us that they have the best interests of the community at heart. This was clearly what they had in mind. Now because the pub is no longer in the hands of Enterprise it probably means that the site will either become a Morrisons or housing. Downley Parish Council its time to step up. If the store goes ahead this will put paid to the local shop and we will end up with another takeaway shop.[/p][/quote]Then it should be you local put your foot down and get it turning a profit make it look welcoming stop the chavs and drugies using it and before you jump on your high horse yes I can say that I'm downley born and bread and again before you say anything if it does get turned into a Morrison's at least it will bea shop that will be well stocked uunlike other shops in the local area marlow12
  • Score: -7

9:10pm Mon 24 Mar 14

marlow12 says...

Rather have a Morrison's or Islamic centre choice is the village of downley
Rather have a Morrison's or Islamic centre choice is the village of downley marlow12
  • Score: -12

10:52pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Lucky Eddie says...

In December, before the new landlord took over, it was common knowledge that Morrisons were bidding on the plot and that the Police, licensing and the council planners favoured this over the pub reopening, hence the limitations placed on the premises licence. It's reputation for drugs, disturbances and anti-social behaviour sealed it's fate a long time ago. There's the Le De which has it's woodland setting, small country pub feel and the Bricklayers which has space for families, live music plus it's awesome Sunday carvery, so all is not lost. You can even support starlight as an independent local shop if the idea of Tesco and Morrisons corporate giants is not to your liking.
In December, before the new landlord took over, it was common knowledge that Morrisons were bidding on the plot and that the Police, licensing and the council planners favoured this over the pub reopening, hence the limitations placed on the premises licence. It's reputation for drugs, disturbances and anti-social behaviour sealed it's fate a long time ago. There's the Le De which has it's woodland setting, small country pub feel and the Bricklayers which has space for families, live music plus it's awesome Sunday carvery, so all is not lost. You can even support starlight as an independent local shop if the idea of Tesco and Morrisons corporate giants is not to your liking. Lucky Eddie
  • Score: 12

1:08am Tue 25 Mar 14

buftonp13 says...

Makes me laugh at the amount of unhappy, sour and pathetic people there are around moaning about young people and so called chavs. Young people and chavs are just apart of the local community as anyone else, and just because of the way someone looks and dresses it doesn't give anyone the right to judge or label them a bad person or that there all selling or taking drugs, because I can assure you there not. I used to regularly drink up the Golden Fleece pub on Hatters lane which had a bad reputation, but it had a great atmosphere in there. It was a place where the community's of Micklefield and Totteridge could come together and socialise. There would be young people, "chavs", middle aged and OAPs all together, all getting on and chatting, like a proper community. Yeah there would be trouble from time to time but it is a pub not a church, it's to be expected. But that place for the local people to come together has now gone forever, such a shame. And for what, another tesco express. Like we need more of them I'm the area. I hope the Donkey is saved for the people of Downley. If your local and don't drink I'm there or any of the local pubs your the problem, don't moan at the people who do drink in them. Start drinking in the Donkey and change it from the inside not moaning from a far
Makes me laugh at the amount of unhappy, sour and pathetic people there are around moaning about young people and so called chavs. Young people and chavs are just apart of the local community as anyone else, and just because of the way someone looks and dresses it doesn't give anyone the right to judge or label them a bad person or that there all selling or taking drugs, because I can assure you there not. I used to regularly drink up the Golden Fleece pub on Hatters lane which had a bad reputation, but it had a great atmosphere in there. It was a place where the community's of Micklefield and Totteridge could come together and socialise. There would be young people, "chavs", middle aged and OAPs all together, all getting on and chatting, like a proper community. Yeah there would be trouble from time to time but it is a pub not a church, it's to be expected. But that place for the local people to come together has now gone forever, such a shame. And for what, another tesco express. Like we need more of them I'm the area. I hope the Donkey is saved for the people of Downley. If your local and don't drink I'm there or any of the local pubs your the problem, don't moan at the people who do drink in them. Start drinking in the Donkey and change it from the inside not moaning from a far buftonp13
  • Score: 11

7:43am Tue 25 Mar 14

brooksybubba says...

The community of downley needs to be united on a decision which will have such an impact for future generations.The reason why the donkey opened in 1969 was to provide a meeting place for house owners and council tenants in a new community and what we seem to forget is most of the homes are now privately owned in these changing times,but once the pub has gone it will never return.Downley residents be very careful what you wish for when you realise the impact a morrisons will have with more traffic and a building which will operate eighteen hours a day 24 7
The community of downley needs to be united on a decision which will have such an impact for future generations.The reason why the donkey opened in 1969 was to provide a meeting place for house owners and council tenants in a new community and what we seem to forget is most of the homes are now privately owned in these changing times,but once the pub has gone it will never return.Downley residents be very careful what you wish for when you realise the impact a morrisons will have with more traffic and a building which will operate eighteen hours a day 24 7 brooksybubba
  • Score: 5

9:10am Tue 25 Mar 14

downleylocal says...

marlow12 wrote:
Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves
I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.
[quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves[/p][/quote]I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school. downleylocal
  • Score: 6

9:15am Tue 25 Mar 14

downleylocal says...

This is a totally awful idea. I have to take some blame for The Donkey closing as I never drank there but Downley does not need another grocery store. The Tesco Local is very handy but Starlight stores now struggle to compete despite their amazing range of fruit and veg. Another store within a few hundred yards is ridiculous. If the pub isnt viable, build some more houses. Everyone is always banging on about the lack of those. I will be writing to the Parish Council and BCC and to Morrison's to find out how to oppose this. First thing is a boycott of Morrison's by all Downley residents?
This is a totally awful idea. I have to take some blame for The Donkey closing as I never drank there but Downley does not need another grocery store. The Tesco Local is very handy but Starlight stores now struggle to compete despite their amazing range of fruit and veg. Another store within a few hundred yards is ridiculous. If the pub isnt viable, build some more houses. Everyone is always banging on about the lack of those. I will be writing to the Parish Council and BCC and to Morrison's to find out how to oppose this. First thing is a boycott of Morrison's by all Downley residents? downleylocal
  • Score: 12

11:52am Tue 25 Mar 14

yoloswag420 says...

When the new landlord decided to increase prices and run the pub at the bare minimum in order to get a lower asking-price for the lease, its their own bloody fault when morrisons bid higher. BFP is always complaining about pubs and then suddenly defending them when they close. People are going to whine if it became housing, another pub, or a morrisons. At least Morrisons will pay tax unlike 99% of the patrons of the pub.
When the new landlord decided to increase prices and run the pub at the bare minimum in order to get a lower asking-price for the lease, its their own bloody fault when morrisons bid higher. BFP is always complaining about pubs and then suddenly defending them when they close. People are going to whine if it became housing, another pub, or a morrisons. At least Morrisons will pay tax unlike 99% of the patrons of the pub. yoloswag420
  • Score: -1

12:33pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Plastic Paddy1975 says...

A sad day for me personally. What a pub. What great friends ive made. Good times over 20+ years all to be bulldozed for a Morrisons. Really!! Disgrace!!. Yes i drink in Downley Donkey but im no chav or druggie!! Lets all get together and stop this madness i say !
A sad day for me personally. What a pub. What great friends ive made. Good times over 20+ years all to be bulldozed for a Morrisons. Really!! Disgrace!!. Yes i drink in Downley Donkey but im no chav or druggie!! Lets all get together and stop this madness i say ! Plastic Paddy1975
  • Score: 7

2:23pm Tue 25 Mar 14

marlow12 says...

downleylocal wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves
I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.
20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there
[quote][p][bold]downleylocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves[/p][/quote]I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.[/p][/quote]20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there marlow12
  • Score: -7

2:49pm Tue 25 Mar 14

M40 says...

stir up wrote:
To Cassey1993 This has nothing to do with BCC it is a district council issue.
BCC are responsible for roads, It would be problem to sort out if traffic congestion were experienced blocking access to the Pastures or the village, already parents with small children complain of the dangers experienced crossing that spot.

Occasionally there have been emergencies along the West Wycombe Road or on the M40 on these occasions diverted traffic often relieves the congestion using Hithercroft Road or the Pastures. the location is not suitable for a superstore.
[quote][p][bold]stir up[/bold] wrote: To Cassey1993 This has nothing to do with BCC it is a district council issue.[/p][/quote]BCC are responsible for roads, It would be problem to sort out if traffic congestion were experienced blocking access to the Pastures or the village, already parents with small children complain of the dangers experienced crossing that spot. Occasionally there have been emergencies along the West Wycombe Road or on the M40 on these occasions diverted traffic often relieves the congestion using Hithercroft Road or the Pastures. the location is not suitable for a superstore. M40
  • Score: 1

3:35pm Tue 25 Mar 14

sparky49 says...

ENTERPRISE INNS AGAIN, THE BRITANNIA, THE HARE AND HOUNDS, THE MAYFLOWER. NEED I SAY MORE
ENTERPRISE INNS AGAIN, THE BRITANNIA, THE HARE AND HOUNDS, THE MAYFLOWER. NEED I SAY MORE sparky49
  • Score: 6

5:23pm Tue 25 Mar 14

i_hate_u says...

marlow12 wrote:
downleylocal wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves
I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.
20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there
So Mr Marlow12 you say you are in local government, you are either a district or county councillor or you work in either WDC or BCC as an officer. Pretty responsible when you are refer to people as chavs and highlight issues of drug dealing. Maybe you are a buyer of drugs yourself? If you are so proud of being born and schooled there then why use your screen name as marlow12? Get a life and stop talking nonsense as I do hate people like you!
[quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]downleylocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves[/p][/quote]I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.[/p][/quote]20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there[/p][/quote]So Mr Marlow12 you say you are in local government, you are either a district or county councillor or you work in either WDC or BCC as an officer. Pretty responsible when you are refer to people as chavs and highlight issues of drug dealing. Maybe you are a buyer of drugs yourself? If you are so proud of being born and schooled there then why use your screen name as marlow12? Get a life and stop talking nonsense as I do hate people like you! i_hate_u
  • Score: 2

5:48pm Tue 25 Mar 14

marlow12 says...

i_hate_u wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
downleylocal wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves
I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.
20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there
So Mr Marlow12 you say you are in local government, you are either a district or county councillor or you work in either WDC or BCC as an officer. Pretty responsible when you are refer to people as chavs and highlight issues of drug dealing. Maybe you are a buyer of drugs yourself? If you are so proud of being born and schooled there then why use your screen name as marlow12? Get a life and stop talking nonsense as I do hate people like you!
No never touched or used drugs not a councilor nor work within there offices name Marlow as that's where I am based solely for work reasons have a very good life with no problems people like yourself should move with the times and while your in gods waiting room maybe you should tell us how long you have lived in downley or are you just a London computer perhaps its you that should get a life or are you one of the office white powder up the nose on a weekend club
[quote][p][bold]i_hate_u[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]downleylocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves[/p][/quote]I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.[/p][/quote]20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there[/p][/quote]So Mr Marlow12 you say you are in local government, you are either a district or county councillor or you work in either WDC or BCC as an officer. Pretty responsible when you are refer to people as chavs and highlight issues of drug dealing. Maybe you are a buyer of drugs yourself? If you are so proud of being born and schooled there then why use your screen name as marlow12? Get a life and stop talking nonsense as I do hate people like you![/p][/quote]No never touched or used drugs not a councilor nor work within there offices name Marlow as that's where I am based solely for work reasons have a very good life with no problems people like yourself should move with the times and while your in gods waiting room maybe you should tell us how long you have lived in downley or are you just a London computer perhaps its you that should get a life or are you one of the office white powder up the nose on a weekend club marlow12
  • Score: -3

6:04pm Tue 25 Mar 14

i_hate_u says...

marlow12 wrote:
i_hate_u wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
downleylocal wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves
I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.
20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there
So Mr Marlow12 you say you are in local government, you are either a district or county councillor or you work in either WDC or BCC as an officer. Pretty responsible when you are refer to people as chavs and highlight issues of drug dealing. Maybe you are a buyer of drugs yourself? If you are so proud of being born and schooled there then why use your screen name as marlow12? Get a life and stop talking nonsense as I do hate people like you!
No never touched or used drugs not a councilor nor work within there offices name Marlow as that's where I am based solely for work reasons have a very good life with no problems people like yourself should move with the times and while your in gods waiting room maybe you should tell us how long you have lived in downley or are you just a London computer perhaps its you that should get a life or are you one of the office white powder up the nose on a weekend club
Born, bred, schooled and still live AND work in the Disraeli Ward and proud of it!
[quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i_hate_u[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]downleylocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves[/p][/quote]I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.[/p][/quote]20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there[/p][/quote]So Mr Marlow12 you say you are in local government, you are either a district or county councillor or you work in either WDC or BCC as an officer. Pretty responsible when you are refer to people as chavs and highlight issues of drug dealing. Maybe you are a buyer of drugs yourself? If you are so proud of being born and schooled there then why use your screen name as marlow12? Get a life and stop talking nonsense as I do hate people like you![/p][/quote]No never touched or used drugs not a councilor nor work within there offices name Marlow as that's where I am based solely for work reasons have a very good life with no problems people like yourself should move with the times and while your in gods waiting room maybe you should tell us how long you have lived in downley or are you just a London computer perhaps its you that should get a life or are you one of the office white powder up the nose on a weekend club[/p][/quote]Born, bred, schooled and still live AND work in the Disraeli Ward and proud of it! i_hate_u
  • Score: 0

6:11pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Plastic Paddy1975 says...

End of the day we are all going to have divided opinions about said subject. So lets just agree to disagree hey. But from a personal point of view sad times.
End of the day we are all going to have divided opinions about said subject. So lets just agree to disagree hey. But from a personal point of view sad times. Plastic Paddy1975
  • Score: 1

6:22pm Tue 25 Mar 14

marlow12 says...

Plastic Paddy1975 wrote:
End of the day we are all going to have divided opinions about said subject. So lets just agree to disagree hey. But from a personal point of view sad times.
I 100% agree sad times and I wasn't the one who made it personal but in the long run it will be good for the local economy it will take time but people will see that in the end
[quote][p][bold]Plastic Paddy1975[/bold] wrote: End of the day we are all going to have divided opinions about said subject. So lets just agree to disagree hey. But from a personal point of view sad times.[/p][/quote]I 100% agree sad times and I wasn't the one who made it personal but in the long run it will be good for the local economy it will take time but people will see that in the end marlow12
  • Score: 0

6:25pm Tue 25 Mar 14

marlow12 says...

i_hate_u wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
i_hate_u wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
downleylocal wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves
I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.
20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there
So Mr Marlow12 you say you are in local government, you are either a district or county councillor or you work in either WDC or BCC as an officer. Pretty responsible when you are refer to people as chavs and highlight issues of drug dealing. Maybe you are a buyer of drugs yourself? If you are so proud of being born and schooled there then why use your screen name as marlow12? Get a life and stop talking nonsense as I do hate people like you!
No never touched or used drugs not a councilor nor work within there offices name Marlow as that's where I am based solely for work reasons have a very good life with no problems people like yourself should move with the times and while your in gods waiting room maybe you should tell us how long you have lived in downley or are you just a London computer perhaps its you that should get a life or are you one of the office white powder up the nose on a weekend club
Born, bred, schooled and still live AND work in the Disraeli Ward and proud of it!
Small minded people like you are killing Wycombe stuck in the past
[quote][p][bold]i_hate_u[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i_hate_u[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]downleylocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves[/p][/quote]I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.[/p][/quote]20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there[/p][/quote]So Mr Marlow12 you say you are in local government, you are either a district or county councillor or you work in either WDC or BCC as an officer. Pretty responsible when you are refer to people as chavs and highlight issues of drug dealing. Maybe you are a buyer of drugs yourself? If you are so proud of being born and schooled there then why use your screen name as marlow12? Get a life and stop talking nonsense as I do hate people like you![/p][/quote]No never touched or used drugs not a councilor nor work within there offices name Marlow as that's where I am based solely for work reasons have a very good life with no problems people like yourself should move with the times and while your in gods waiting room maybe you should tell us how long you have lived in downley or are you just a London computer perhaps its you that should get a life or are you one of the office white powder up the nose on a weekend club[/p][/quote]Born, bred, schooled and still live AND work in the Disraeli Ward and proud of it![/p][/quote]Small minded people like you are killing Wycombe stuck in the past marlow12
  • Score: -2

7:35pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Old Rebel says...

marlow12 wrote:
Old Rebel wrote:
Has anyone who has given a negative review of the Donkey been there in recent weeks. The landlord is a great guy who has kicked out the bad element and put in an offer for the pub but was gazumped by Morrisons. This report regarding what Enterprise has said makes me so angry, as the landlord has clearly indicated he wants to continue with the pub. They have placed a variety of unsuitable landlords despite reassuring us that they have the best interests of the community at heart. This was clearly what they had in mind. Now because the pub is no longer in the hands of Enterprise it probably means that the site will either become a Morrisons or housing. Downley Parish Council its time to step up. If the store goes ahead this will put paid to the local shop and we will end up with another takeaway shop.
Then it should be you local put your foot down and get it turning a profit make it look welcoming stop the chavs and drugies using it and before you jump on your high horse yes I can say that I'm downley born and bread and again before you say anything if it does get turned into a Morrison's at least it will bea shop that will be well stocked uunlike other shops in the local area
Your missing the point, it has been sold to Morrisons so there is nothing we can do about it. Enterprise Inns forced Dawn out years ago and put a series of landlords in place that drove the mainstay of their clients away. We wrote to Enterprise after Dawn left expressing our views that the Donkey was a very family orientated pub and they told us not to worry they had the best interests of the community at heart!
Regarding your comments on a well stocked store, what about Tesco Express. How big do you want a store to be?
[quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Rebel[/bold] wrote: Has anyone who has given a negative review of the Donkey been there in recent weeks. The landlord is a great guy who has kicked out the bad element and put in an offer for the pub but was gazumped by Morrisons. This report regarding what Enterprise has said makes me so angry, as the landlord has clearly indicated he wants to continue with the pub. They have placed a variety of unsuitable landlords despite reassuring us that they have the best interests of the community at heart. This was clearly what they had in mind. Now because the pub is no longer in the hands of Enterprise it probably means that the site will either become a Morrisons or housing. Downley Parish Council its time to step up. If the store goes ahead this will put paid to the local shop and we will end up with another takeaway shop.[/p][/quote]Then it should be you local put your foot down and get it turning a profit make it look welcoming stop the chavs and drugies using it and before you jump on your high horse yes I can say that I'm downley born and bread and again before you say anything if it does get turned into a Morrison's at least it will bea shop that will be well stocked uunlike other shops in the local area[/p][/quote]Your missing the point, it has been sold to Morrisons so there is nothing we can do about it. Enterprise Inns forced Dawn out years ago and put a series of landlords in place that drove the mainstay of their clients away. We wrote to Enterprise after Dawn left expressing our views that the Donkey was a very family orientated pub and they told us not to worry they had the best interests of the community at heart! Regarding your comments on a well stocked store, what about Tesco Express. How big do you want a store to be? Old Rebel
  • Score: 3

7:47pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Old Rebel says...

marlow12 wrote:
Plastic Paddy1975 wrote:
End of the day we are all going to have divided opinions about said subject. So lets just agree to disagree hey. But from a personal point of view sad times.
I 100% agree sad times and I wasn't the one who made it personal but in the long run it will be good for the local economy it will take time but people will see that in the end
Sorry, but you live in Marlow, maybe when Morrisons, Tesco etc want to build next door to you. Or perhaps your favourite local pub landlord is forced out and the brewery want to make a quick buck so turn it into a drug den we will sympathise with you. As I have stated the Donkey has had at least 3 landlords, the most recent, who you obviously have no idea about is a very decent bloke who has turned it around and wants to buy it but the brewery said "no, we are selling to Morrisons. Why don't you buy the Antelope instead"
[quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Paddy1975[/bold] wrote: End of the day we are all going to have divided opinions about said subject. So lets just agree to disagree hey. But from a personal point of view sad times.[/p][/quote]I 100% agree sad times and I wasn't the one who made it personal but in the long run it will be good for the local economy it will take time but people will see that in the end[/p][/quote]Sorry, but you live in Marlow, maybe when Morrisons, Tesco etc want to build next door to you. Or perhaps your favourite local pub landlord is forced out and the brewery want to make a quick buck so turn it into a drug den we will sympathise with you. As I have stated the Donkey has had at least 3 landlords, the most recent, who you obviously have no idea about is a very decent bloke who has turned it around and wants to buy it but the brewery said "no, we are selling to Morrisons. Why don't you buy the Antelope instead" Old Rebel
  • Score: 2

7:59pm Tue 25 Mar 14

bluefeet says...

marlow12 wrote:
downleylocal wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves
I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.
20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there
Marlow12. If you had been born & bought up in Downley, you would know that the masters is not in Downley & never has been. That's like saying "if you want to see the real Marlow, go to Wycombe!" Save us from the muppets & go peddle your seedy photos elsewhere!. I think it's a shame that another community pub is closing.
[quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]downleylocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves[/p][/quote]I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.[/p][/quote]20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there[/p][/quote]Marlow12. If you had been born & bought up in Downley, you would know that the masters is not in Downley & never has been. That's like saying "if you want to see the real Marlow, go to Wycombe!" Save us from the muppets & go peddle your seedy photos elsewhere!. I think it's a shame that another community pub is closing. bluefeet
  • Score: 6

8:04pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Old Rebel says...

Lucky Eddie wrote:
In December, before the new landlord took over, it was common knowledge that Morrisons were bidding on the plot and that the Police, licensing and the council planners favoured this over the pub reopening, hence the limitations placed on the premises licence. It's reputation for drugs, disturbances and anti-social behaviour sealed it's fate a long time ago. There's the Le De which has it's woodland setting, small country pub feel and the Bricklayers which has space for families, live music plus it's awesome Sunday carvery, so all is not lost. You can even support starlight as an independent local shop if the idea of Tesco and Morrisons corporate giants is not to your liking.
I appreciate what you are saying, its interesting that everyone seemed to know what was going on up there. However, why did the police do nothing. The Le De is a beautiful pub but the victim of its own success. Its always too busy and I do not feel comfortable around dogs and unfortunately there are always quite a few whenever I visit. Despite not using it since the dodgy landlords the new guy was doing a great job. The Donkey is my local and will be sad to see it go.
[quote][p][bold]Lucky Eddie[/bold] wrote: In December, before the new landlord took over, it was common knowledge that Morrisons were bidding on the plot and that the Police, licensing and the council planners favoured this over the pub reopening, hence the limitations placed on the premises licence. It's reputation for drugs, disturbances and anti-social behaviour sealed it's fate a long time ago. There's the Le De which has it's woodland setting, small country pub feel and the Bricklayers which has space for families, live music plus it's awesome Sunday carvery, so all is not lost. You can even support starlight as an independent local shop if the idea of Tesco and Morrisons corporate giants is not to your liking.[/p][/quote]I appreciate what you are saying, its interesting that everyone seemed to know what was going on up there. However, why did the police do nothing. The Le De is a beautiful pub but the victim of its own success. Its always too busy and I do not feel comfortable around dogs and unfortunately there are always quite a few whenever I visit. Despite not using it since the dodgy landlords the new guy was doing a great job. The Donkey is my local and will be sad to see it go. Old Rebel
  • Score: 1

8:13pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Old Rebel says...

brooksybubba wrote:
The community of downley needs to be united on a decision which will have such an impact for future generations.The reason why the donkey opened in 1969 was to provide a meeting place for house owners and council tenants in a new community and what we seem to forget is most of the homes are now privately owned in these changing times,but once the pub has gone it will never return.Downley residents be very careful what you wish for when you realise the impact a morrisons will have with more traffic and a building which will operate eighteen hours a day 24 7
I completely agree with you. However, as I understand it, the site has been or will be purchased by Morrisons, Sainsburys etc, it is clear the brewery do not want it. There was an interesting article which explains that because a pub is a retail outfit then it does not require planning permission to be turned into a supermarket as their is no change of use its still a retail unit. Hence, I guess why they buy pubs. So not sure on what grounds we can fight it.
[quote][p][bold]brooksybubba[/bold] wrote: The community of downley needs to be united on a decision which will have such an impact for future generations.The reason why the donkey opened in 1969 was to provide a meeting place for house owners and council tenants in a new community and what we seem to forget is most of the homes are now privately owned in these changing times,but once the pub has gone it will never return.Downley residents be very careful what you wish for when you realise the impact a morrisons will have with more traffic and a building which will operate eighteen hours a day 24 7[/p][/quote]I completely agree with you. However, as I understand it, the site has been or will be purchased by Morrisons, Sainsburys etc, it is clear the brewery do not want it. There was an interesting article which explains that because a pub is a retail outfit then it does not require planning permission to be turned into a supermarket as their is no change of use its still a retail unit. Hence, I guess why they buy pubs. So not sure on what grounds we can fight it. Old Rebel
  • Score: 0

8:47pm Tue 25 Mar 14

brooksybubba says...

Old Rebel wrote:
brooksybubba wrote:
The community of downley needs to be united on a decision which will have such an impact for future generations.The reason why the donkey opened in 1969 was to provide a meeting place for house owners and council tenants in a new community and what we seem to forget is most of the homes are now privately owned in these changing times,but once the pub has gone it will never return.Downley residents be very careful what you wish for when you realise the impact a morrisons will have with more traffic and a building which will operate eighteen hours a day 24 7
I completely agree with you. However, as I understand it, the site has been or will be purchased by Morrisons, Sainsburys etc, it is clear the brewery do not want it. There was an interesting article which explains that because a pub is a retail outfit then it does not require planning permission to be turned into a supermarket as their is no change of use its still a retail unit. Hence, I guess why they buy pubs. So not sure on what grounds we can fight it.
We will probably lose the fight but if you feel passionate about something you attempt to put a spanner in the works.If you look at the enterprise inns website and read about the downley donkey,I quote in the cooler months there are open fires which goes to show these asset strippers don't give a **** about your community whether its downley,marlow or cryers hill.Also Wycombe district council don't care and will be glad once this has been pushed through.And lucky Eddie,when you say we have 2 more pubs what will you say when they are gone and the village has nowhere to go and socialise
[quote][p][bold]Old Rebel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brooksybubba[/bold] wrote: The community of downley needs to be united on a decision which will have such an impact for future generations.The reason why the donkey opened in 1969 was to provide a meeting place for house owners and council tenants in a new community and what we seem to forget is most of the homes are now privately owned in these changing times,but once the pub has gone it will never return.Downley residents be very careful what you wish for when you realise the impact a morrisons will have with more traffic and a building which will operate eighteen hours a day 24 7[/p][/quote]I completely agree with you. However, as I understand it, the site has been or will be purchased by Morrisons, Sainsburys etc, it is clear the brewery do not want it. There was an interesting article which explains that because a pub is a retail outfit then it does not require planning permission to be turned into a supermarket as their is no change of use its still a retail unit. Hence, I guess why they buy pubs. So not sure on what grounds we can fight it.[/p][/quote]We will probably lose the fight but if you feel passionate about something you attempt to put a spanner in the works.If you look at the enterprise inns website and read about the downley donkey,I quote in the cooler months there are open fires which goes to show these asset strippers don't give a **** about your community whether its downley,marlow or cryers hill.Also Wycombe district council don't care and will be glad once this has been pushed through.And lucky Eddie,when you say we have 2 more pubs what will you say when they are gone and the village has nowhere to go and socialise brooksybubba
  • Score: 2

9:19pm Tue 25 Mar 14

WillDrawPencils says...

Aboslutely disgraceful if this goes ahead! We already have a Tesco, why does a small village such as Downley need a Morrisons? I don't see how Downley News and Starlight will able to survive this. Let's hope the local council quashes these rediculous plans!
Aboslutely disgraceful if this goes ahead! We already have a Tesco, why does a small village such as Downley need a Morrisons? I don't see how Downley News and Starlight will able to survive this. Let's hope the local council quashes these rediculous plans! WillDrawPencils
  • Score: 5

9:27pm Tue 25 Mar 14

downleylocal says...

marlow12 wrote:
downleylocal wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves
I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.
20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there
The Masters is near Disraeli School? So not in Downley by a long way. Neither the Ward or the Parish. It is in Disraeli Ward and is just part of High Wycombe. Now that pub would benefit from having a supermarket built on it.
[quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]downleylocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves[/p][/quote]I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.[/p][/quote]20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there[/p][/quote]The Masters is near Disraeli School? So not in Downley by a long way. Neither the Ward or the Parish. It is in Disraeli Ward and is just part of High Wycombe. Now that pub would benefit from having a supermarket built on it. downleylocal
  • Score: 2

9:49pm Tue 25 Mar 14

marlow12 says...

Old Rebel wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
Plastic Paddy1975 wrote:
End of the day we are all going to have divided opinions about said subject. So lets just agree to disagree hey. But from a personal point of view sad times.
I 100% agree sad times and I wasn't the one who made it personal but in the long run it will be good for the local economy it will take time but people will see that in the end
Sorry, but you live in Marlow, maybe when Morrisons, Tesco etc want to build next door to you. Or perhaps your favourite local pub landlord is forced out and the brewery want to make a quick buck so turn it into a drug den we will sympathise with you. As I have stated the Donkey has had at least 3 landlords, the most recent, who you obviously have no idea about is a very decent bloke who has turned it around and wants to buy it but the brewery said "no, we are selling to Morrisons. Why don't you buy the Antelope instead"
Oldreble once again I do not live in Marlow I live in downley if you judge make sure information is correct
[quote][p][bold]Old Rebel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Paddy1975[/bold] wrote: End of the day we are all going to have divided opinions about said subject. So lets just agree to disagree hey. But from a personal point of view sad times.[/p][/quote]I 100% agree sad times and I wasn't the one who made it personal but in the long run it will be good for the local economy it will take time but people will see that in the end[/p][/quote]Sorry, but you live in Marlow, maybe when Morrisons, Tesco etc want to build next door to you. Or perhaps your favourite local pub landlord is forced out and the brewery want to make a quick buck so turn it into a drug den we will sympathise with you. As I have stated the Donkey has had at least 3 landlords, the most recent, who you obviously have no idea about is a very decent bloke who has turned it around and wants to buy it but the brewery said "no, we are selling to Morrisons. Why don't you buy the Antelope instead"[/p][/quote]Oldreble once again I do not live in Marlow I live in downley if you judge make sure information is correct marlow12
  • Score: 0

9:53pm Tue 25 Mar 14

marlow12 says...

bluefeet wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
downleylocal wrote:
marlow12 wrote:
Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves
I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.
20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there
Marlow12. If you had been born & bought up in Downley, you would know that the masters is not in Downley & never has been. That's like saying "if you want to see the real Marlow, go to Wycombe!" Save us from the muppets & go peddle your seedy photos elsewhere!. I think it's a shame that another community pub is closing.
Maybe I should show the pics of an area buy the common about 30m2 where a company doing some work found 15 needles a needle box and about 30 used Herroin wraps
[quote][p][bold]bluefeet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]downleylocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marlow12[/bold] wrote: Good luck Morrison's having grown up in downley I can say this will be a good thing look at the masters it was run by drug dealers used by chavs and drug users and look what a mess that area is now the best they could do there now is knock the lot down shops as well downley used to be such a nice place but the people that live there now have killed it so I say let Morrison's build or it will only open as a drug den again the people of downley can only blame themselves[/p][/quote]I have lived in Downley for 20 years and I don't recognise a single thing you describe. I think either you haven't been there for a while or perhaps never at all. Downley is a nice place to live with a good mix of people and a lovely school.[/p][/quote]20 years you can't call yourself a downley height and if you wanna see the real downley go down to the masters and walk around or I could email you some pics I work in local government so have many pics I can share if you would like and yes I'm in downley 4/5 times a week so 20 years is nothing sorry to say I was born and schooled there[/p][/quote]Marlow12. If you had been born & bought up in Downley, you would know that the masters is not in Downley & never has been. That's like saying "if you want to see the real Marlow, go to Wycombe!" Save us from the muppets & go peddle your seedy photos elsewhere!. I think it's a shame that another community pub is closing.[/p][/quote]Maybe I should show the pics of an area buy the common about 30m2 where a company doing some work found 15 needles a needle box and about 30 used Herroin wraps marlow12
  • Score: -1

9:56pm Tue 25 Mar 14

bluefeet says...

Marlow12, you don't even seem to know where Downley is if you thin the masters is there! I suspect you are a wannabe. Best quote from you is "I work in local government & have many pics I can share" & your employer would have no problem with this? Hmmm you must be on the dust carts then! Sinister!
Marlow12, you don't even seem to know where Downley is if you thin the masters is there! I suspect you are a wannabe. Best quote from you is "I work in local government & have many pics I can share" & your employer would have no problem with this? Hmmm you must be on the dust carts then! Sinister! bluefeet
  • Score: 2

11:20pm Tue 25 Mar 14

i_hate_u says...

bluefeet wrote:
Marlow12, you don't even seem to know where Downley is if you thin the masters is there! I suspect you are a wannabe. Best quote from you is "I work in local government & have many pics I can share" & your employer would have no problem with this? Hmmm you must be on the dust carts then! Sinister!
Here here Bluefeet! I agree that Marlow12 is a wannabee and full of s***. Buy yourself a map of the Wycombe District mr Marlow12 and go and annoy someone else or sort out the flooding issue!
[quote][p][bold]bluefeet[/bold] wrote: Marlow12, you don't even seem to know where Downley is if you thin the masters is there! I suspect you are a wannabe. Best quote from you is "I work in local government & have many pics I can share" & your employer would have no problem with this? Hmmm you must be on the dust carts then! Sinister![/p][/quote]Here here Bluefeet! I agree that Marlow12 is a wannabee and full of s***. Buy yourself a map of the Wycombe District mr Marlow12 and go and annoy someone else or sort out the flooding issue! i_hate_u
  • Score: 0

1:07am Wed 26 Mar 14

Lucky Eddie says...

brooksybubba wrote:
Old Rebel wrote:
brooksybubba wrote:
The community of downley needs to be united on a decision which will have such an impact for future generations.The reason why the donkey opened in 1969 was to provide a meeting place for house owners and council tenants in a new community and what we seem to forget is most of the homes are now privately owned in these changing times,but once the pub has gone it will never return.Downley residents be very careful what you wish for when you realise the impact a morrisons will have with more traffic and a building which will operate eighteen hours a day 24 7
I completely agree with you. However, as I understand it, the site has been or will be purchased by Morrisons, Sainsburys etc, it is clear the brewery do not want it. There was an interesting article which explains that because a pub is a retail outfit then it does not require planning permission to be turned into a supermarket as their is no change of use its still a retail unit. Hence, I guess why they buy pubs. So not sure on what grounds we can fight it.
We will probably lose the fight but if you feel passionate about something you attempt to put a spanner in the works.If you look at the enterprise inns website and read about the downley donkey,I quote in the cooler months there are open fires which goes to show these asset strippers don't give a **** about your community whether its downley,marlow or cryers hill.Also Wycombe district council don't care and will be glad once this has been pushed through.And lucky Eddie,when you say we have 2 more pubs what will you say when they are gone and the village has nowhere to go and socialise
I agree, the prospect of no pubs is very real... But if people want pubs to socialise in as part of the community, they need to use them. The pubs know it's no longer a case of opening the doors and expecting people to come in and drink beer. Open mic nights, live music, quiz nights, bbq's etc. etc. etc. are what they put on to give people a reason to go out rather than sit at home with a 4 pack from Tesco. The prospect of no independent retailers like Starlight is equally real, it's no different to the libraries and post offices closing. They need to stay relevant to their customers and their customers need some loyalty. The range of fresh fruit and veg they carry is amazing, not to mention the bread backed on site. It's fine going to Asda for the weekly shop, but shop local when you need a couple of things, it is almost certainly cheaper when you consider petrol cost etc.
[quote][p][bold]brooksybubba[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Rebel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brooksybubba[/bold] wrote: The community of downley needs to be united on a decision which will have such an impact for future generations.The reason why the donkey opened in 1969 was to provide a meeting place for house owners and council tenants in a new community and what we seem to forget is most of the homes are now privately owned in these changing times,but once the pub has gone it will never return.Downley residents be very careful what you wish for when you realise the impact a morrisons will have with more traffic and a building which will operate eighteen hours a day 24 7[/p][/quote]I completely agree with you. However, as I understand it, the site has been or will be purchased by Morrisons, Sainsburys etc, it is clear the brewery do not want it. There was an interesting article which explains that because a pub is a retail outfit then it does not require planning permission to be turned into a supermarket as their is no change of use its still a retail unit. Hence, I guess why they buy pubs. So not sure on what grounds we can fight it.[/p][/quote]We will probably lose the fight but if you feel passionate about something you attempt to put a spanner in the works.If you look at the enterprise inns website and read about the downley donkey,I quote in the cooler months there are open fires which goes to show these asset strippers don't give a **** about your community whether its downley,marlow or cryers hill.Also Wycombe district council don't care and will be glad once this has been pushed through.And lucky Eddie,when you say we have 2 more pubs what will you say when they are gone and the village has nowhere to go and socialise[/p][/quote]I agree, the prospect of no pubs is very real... But if people want pubs to socialise in as part of the community, they need to use them. The pubs know it's no longer a case of opening the doors and expecting people to come in and drink beer. Open mic nights, live music, quiz nights, bbq's etc. etc. etc. are what they put on to give people a reason to go out rather than sit at home with a 4 pack from Tesco. The prospect of no independent retailers like Starlight is equally real, it's no different to the libraries and post offices closing. They need to stay relevant to their customers and their customers need some loyalty. The range of fresh fruit and veg they carry is amazing, not to mention the bread backed on site. It's fine going to Asda for the weekly shop, but shop local when you need a couple of things, it is almost certainly cheaper when you consider petrol cost etc. Lucky Eddie
  • Score: 2

9:24am Wed 26 Mar 14

brooksybubba says...

A message to downley residents.The bucks free press photographer will be attending the downley donkey today at 4pm (26th march)It is time for the community to be here and support local businesses and show our feelings to enterprise inns Wycombe district council and morrisons that downley is still a village with spirit
A message to downley residents.The bucks free press photographer will be attending the downley donkey today at 4pm (26th march)It is time for the community to be here and support local businesses and show our feelings to enterprise inns Wycombe district council and morrisons that downley is still a village with spirit brooksybubba
  • Score: 1

10:12am Wed 26 Mar 14

Little Miss says...

As the previous poster has commented, if you want to get your voice heard, attend the press photograph opportunity and stand together as a community.

It's a sad fact that many pubs are closing each week now, partly because of the rising prices, the fact that we are still in a tough economic climate, and it's generally cheaper to have a drink at home or with friends. Whether in Downley, Wycombe or wherever, we have had so many historic and once popular pubs close, and it is sad, but what can be done? Short of people making a stand and supporting these pubs by using them, then sadly there's not a lot that can be done. In all my life I think I can probably count the amount of times I have visited the Donkey on one hand, and have fingers to spare. The first time I went there was as a very small child when my family were visiting friends, it was their local and I remember it being very busy and very popular. Fast forward a few decades, and every time in recent years I've been past the place it has been dead as a door nail.

I'll be honest rather than seeing it turned into another convenience type store, Downley (in my opinion, and this is based from the time I spent living there) would greatly benefit from an independent coffee shop/cafe, or even a restaurant, or perhaps a pub that offered a really good level of food that was an attraction.

Coffee shop/cafe personally I think would have been great, having had my first child whilst living in Downley, it would have been great to have been able to have walked somewhere local to meet with friends, and a soft play area for the kids would have gone down really well. There are of course many really great baby groups in Downley such as at the Disraeli school, however these don't always fit with a working parent, or a child that like to sleep mid morning or mid afternoon when the classes/sessions you want to attend are on. I'd have found this so much more beneficial than another convenience style shop. Personally.
As the previous poster has commented, if you want to get your voice heard, attend the press photograph opportunity and stand together as a community. It's a sad fact that many pubs are closing each week now, partly because of the rising prices, the fact that we are still in a tough economic climate, and it's generally cheaper to have a drink at home or with friends. Whether in Downley, Wycombe or wherever, we have had so many historic and once popular pubs close, and it is sad, but what can be done? Short of people making a stand and supporting these pubs by using them, then sadly there's not a lot that can be done. In all my life I think I can probably count the amount of times I have visited the Donkey on one hand, and have fingers to spare. The first time I went there was as a very small child when my family were visiting friends, it was their local and I remember it being very busy and very popular. Fast forward a few decades, and every time in recent years I've been past the place it has been dead as a door nail. I'll be honest rather than seeing it turned into another convenience type store, Downley (in my opinion, and this is based from the time I spent living there) would greatly benefit from an independent coffee shop/cafe, or even a restaurant, or perhaps a pub that offered a really good level of food that was an attraction. Coffee shop/cafe personally I think would have been great, having had my first child whilst living in Downley, it would have been great to have been able to have walked somewhere local to meet with friends, and a soft play area for the kids would have gone down really well. There are of course many really great baby groups in Downley such as at the Disraeli school, however these don't always fit with a working parent, or a child that like to sleep mid morning or mid afternoon when the classes/sessions you want to attend are on. I'd have found this so much more beneficial than another convenience style shop. Personally. Little Miss
  • Score: 0

10:17am Wed 26 Mar 14

Little Miss says...

Oops and of course I don't want to add fuel to the location fire, in that the Disraeli school is not actually part of Downley, so apologies for my mistake there.
Oops and of course I don't want to add fuel to the location fire, in that the Disraeli school is not actually part of Downley, so apologies for my mistake there. Little Miss
  • Score: 0

3:25pm Wed 26 Mar 14

cocobay says...

I live about 2 mins away from here. i think its a good idea. ive lived in Downley majority of my life, and always shop at morrisons anyway, so a more "local" store.. im for it.
I live about 2 mins away from here. i think its a good idea. ive lived in Downley majority of my life, and always shop at morrisons anyway, so a more "local" store.. im for it. cocobay
  • Score: -3

3:48pm Wed 26 Mar 14

M40 says...

If Morrison's take over they will need to apply for change of use, that change of use should only be allowed if alcohol were not sold by those operating the new venture and not detrimental to the surrounding area.
Morrison's were not happy with their market share nationwide last year although accumulating massive profits, it is disgusting that Morrison's policy of selling cheap booze without any thought of the harm excessive drinking causes continues without the same restraints or responsibilities expected from pub landlords.
Daily pubs are putting the shutters up forced out by the Morrison's of this world who then step in on the cheap when they are gone to challenge competition from other supermarket chains for what is a limited market, the fallout from this is others like Starlight Stores and those on the parade of shops opposite the Downley Donkey risk losing their businesses and the community a number of treasured assets, that many of us take for granted until they are gone, even the launderette may suffer with Morrison's operation a dry cleaning business.
The money grabbers must be stopped from destroying rural communities.
If Morrison's take over they will need to apply for change of use, that change of use should only be allowed if alcohol were not sold by those operating the new venture and not detrimental to the surrounding area. Morrison's were not happy with their market share nationwide last year although accumulating massive profits, it is disgusting that Morrison's policy of selling cheap booze without any thought of the harm excessive drinking causes continues without the same restraints or responsibilities expected from pub landlords. Daily pubs are putting the shutters up forced out by the Morrison's of this world who then step in on the cheap when they are gone to challenge competition from other supermarket chains for what is a limited market, the fallout from this is others like Starlight Stores and those on the parade of shops opposite the Downley Donkey risk losing their businesses and the community a number of treasured assets, that many of us take for granted until they are gone, even the launderette may suffer with Morrison's operation a dry cleaning business. The money grabbers must be stopped from destroying rural communities. M40
  • Score: 3

4:25pm Wed 26 Mar 14

brooksybubba says...

Thank you people who turned up for photograph parish council meeting tonight at 7.45pm and it is an open meeting to discuss the impact this will have on our community please attend
Thank you people who turned up for photograph parish council meeting tonight at 7.45pm and it is an open meeting to discuss the impact this will have on our community please attend brooksybubba
  • Score: 2

4:27pm Wed 26 Mar 14

brooksybubba says...

This is at old school community centre downley
This is at old school community centre downley brooksybubba
  • Score: 1

7:53pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Plastic Paddy1975 says...

And lets all have a jolly old beer up in our local this weekend for the last time. :-) Heres to The Downley Donkey :-)
And lets all have a jolly old beer up in our local this weekend for the last time. :-) Heres to The Downley Donkey :-) Plastic Paddy1975
  • Score: 2

9:42pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Old Rebel says...

M40 wrote:
If Morrison's take over they will need to apply for change of use, that change of use should only be allowed if alcohol were not sold by those operating the new venture and not detrimental to the surrounding area.
Morrison's were not happy with their market share nationwide last year although accumulating massive profits, it is disgusting that Morrison's policy of selling cheap booze without any thought of the harm excessive drinking causes continues without the same restraints or responsibilities expected from pub landlords.
Daily pubs are putting the shutters up forced out by the Morrison's of this world who then step in on the cheap when they are gone to challenge competition from other supermarket chains for what is a limited market, the fallout from this is others like Starlight Stores and those on the parade of shops opposite the Downley Donkey risk losing their businesses and the community a number of treasured assets, that many of us take for granted until they are gone, even the launderette may suffer with Morrison's operation a dry cleaning business.
The money grabbers must be stopped from destroying rural communities.
There is an article published in the Guardian that explains that pub sites are popular with supermarkets simply because they do not need planning permission or to change of use as the pub is already a retail outfit which is the same as a supermarket. This leaves the local communities very little to fight with.
[quote][p][bold]M40[/bold] wrote: If Morrison's take over they will need to apply for change of use, that change of use should only be allowed if alcohol were not sold by those operating the new venture and not detrimental to the surrounding area. Morrison's were not happy with their market share nationwide last year although accumulating massive profits, it is disgusting that Morrison's policy of selling cheap booze without any thought of the harm excessive drinking causes continues without the same restraints or responsibilities expected from pub landlords. Daily pubs are putting the shutters up forced out by the Morrison's of this world who then step in on the cheap when they are gone to challenge competition from other supermarket chains for what is a limited market, the fallout from this is others like Starlight Stores and those on the parade of shops opposite the Downley Donkey risk losing their businesses and the community a number of treasured assets, that many of us take for granted until they are gone, even the launderette may suffer with Morrison's operation a dry cleaning business. The money grabbers must be stopped from destroying rural communities.[/p][/quote]There is an article published in the Guardian that explains that pub sites are popular with supermarkets simply because they do not need planning permission or to change of use as the pub is already a retail outfit which is the same as a supermarket. This leaves the local communities very little to fight with. Old Rebel
  • Score: 1

9:48pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Old Rebel says...

brooksybubba wrote:
A message to downley residents.The bucks free press photographer will be attending the downley donkey today at 4pm (26th march)It is time for the community to be here and support local businesses and show our feelings to enterprise inns Wycombe district council and morrisons that downley is still a village with spirit
I'm really sorry I missed this. I would have even taken time out from work to attend. Is there any other way we can all communicate these things as a community say Facebook and messages in the local shops the more that know the better.
[quote][p][bold]brooksybubba[/bold] wrote: A message to downley residents.The bucks free press photographer will be attending the downley donkey today at 4pm (26th march)It is time for the community to be here and support local businesses and show our feelings to enterprise inns Wycombe district council and morrisons that downley is still a village with spirit[/p][/quote]I'm really sorry I missed this. I would have even taken time out from work to attend. Is there any other way we can all communicate these things as a community say Facebook and messages in the local shops the more that know the better. Old Rebel
  • Score: 0

11:13am Thu 27 Mar 14

Downleyview says...

Lucky Eddie wrote:
In December, before the new landlord took over, it was common knowledge that Morrisons were bidding on the plot and that the Police, licensing and the council planners favoured this over the pub reopening, hence the limitations placed on the premises licence. It's reputation for drugs, disturbances and anti-social behaviour sealed it's fate a long time ago. There's the Le De which has it's woodland setting, small country pub feel and the Bricklayers which has space for families, live music plus it's awesome Sunday carvery, so all is not lost. You can even support starlight as an independent local shop if the idea of Tesco and Morrisons corporate giants is not to your liking.
Common knowledge to who? Certainly not the Parish council, (who should be notified of proposed changes in their area).
At last nights meeting they were adamant that this matter had only just been draw to their attention.
If the police were knew anything, why did they not mention it at previous meetings?
Council planners would, surely, have drawn attention to a proposed supermarket.
[quote][p][bold]Lucky Eddie[/bold] wrote: In December, before the new landlord took over, it was common knowledge that Morrisons were bidding on the plot and that the Police, licensing and the council planners favoured this over the pub reopening, hence the limitations placed on the premises licence. It's reputation for drugs, disturbances and anti-social behaviour sealed it's fate a long time ago. There's the Le De which has it's woodland setting, small country pub feel and the Bricklayers which has space for families, live music plus it's awesome Sunday carvery, so all is not lost. You can even support starlight as an independent local shop if the idea of Tesco and Morrisons corporate giants is not to your liking.[/p][/quote]Common knowledge to who? Certainly not the Parish council, (who should be notified of proposed changes in their area). At last nights meeting they were adamant that this matter had only just been draw to their attention. If the police were knew anything, why did they not mention it at previous meetings? Council planners would, surely, have drawn attention to a proposed supermarket. Downleyview
  • Score: 1

3:35pm Sun 20 Apr 14

RichardWW says...

As a small business owner, the thought of yet another corporate giant opening up in the villages outside High Wycombe fills me with dread. The independent shops in Downley are fighting for their lives and, while I appreciate people won't do a weekly shop, they provide cover for the essential items. They are not called 'convenience shops' for nothing.
The likes of Downley News and Starlight Stores obviously aren't competing like for like with Tesco Express (it is worth noting that the 'Express' and 'Local' shops don't always carry the same cheap offers as their parent stores) but what they have is character and personal service that is sadly lacking in faceless supermarkets.
Tesco moving into Bellfield Road has obviously had a huge impact on the small business's in the area, but to now have Morrison's landing on the site of the Downley Donkey, the local shopkeepers must be tearing their hair out.
Is another 'name' supermarket really necessary? Bear in mind the main branch is less than a mile and a half from the new store and you begin to see the stranglehold the so called 'Big Four' are exerting.
I think the ' use 'em or lose 'em tag has never been more appropriate. Please use the local shops, they have been in Downley for a very long time and, with your support, will hopefully be there for a long time to come.
As a small business owner, the thought of yet another corporate giant opening up in the villages outside High Wycombe fills me with dread. The independent shops in Downley are fighting for their lives and, while I appreciate people won't do a weekly shop, they provide cover for the essential items. They are not called 'convenience shops' for nothing. The likes of Downley News and Starlight Stores obviously aren't competing like for like with Tesco Express (it is worth noting that the 'Express' and 'Local' shops don't always carry the same cheap offers as their parent stores) but what they have is character and personal service that is sadly lacking in faceless supermarkets. Tesco moving into Bellfield Road has obviously had a huge impact on the small business's in the area, but to now have Morrison's landing on the site of the Downley Donkey, the local shopkeepers must be tearing their hair out. Is another 'name' supermarket really necessary? Bear in mind the main branch is less than a mile and a half from the new store and you begin to see the stranglehold the so called 'Big Four' are exerting. I think the ' use 'em or lose 'em tag has never been more appropriate. Please use the local shops, they have been in Downley for a very long time and, with your support, will hopefully be there for a long time to come. RichardWW
  • Score: 0

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