Residents: 'We don't want Morrisons in Downley'

Residents: 'We don't want Morrisons in Downley'

Residents: 'We don't want Morrisons in Downley'

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MORRISONS has been emphatically told it is not welcome in Downley as residents rally to save The Downley Donkey pub.

Residents defiantly raised their hands to inform the supermarket giants that a new store is not wanted or needed in the village during a packed emergency meeting of Downley Parish Council last night.

The pub in Plomer Green Lane could be closed as early as Sunday.

The parish council is leading an 11th hour campaign to have The Donkey and other key buildings in the village registered as a Community Asset in a bid to prevent them from being lost to “predatory entities”.

DPC chairman Cllr Barry Gay, who knew nothing of the plans until last Friday, has also arranged a meeting with Morrisons’ bosses to put across the feelings of villagers, who fear it would “rip the soul out of Downley”.

One resident told the meeting: “We don’t need another supermarket in the village, we already have Tesco and the big Morrisons is only a mile away, it would destroy the other shops.

“Is Downley just going to become a smaller version of High Wycombe town centre, riddled with supermarkets and charity shops?

“How hard do the families that run the small businesses need to work? There seems to be no interest in community from the powers that be.”

Another villager urged residents to boycott Morrisons and shop at the independent Starlight Stores and Downley News.

Residents also fear the impact additional traffic movements would have on Plomer Green Lane, calling it a “death trap waiting to happen”.

Cllr Gay said the parish would do all it can to save the pub - but if the deal cannot be stopped it would work hard to influence Morrisons’ plans.

Morrisons told the BFP it was in the “early stages of planning” for the M Local store and it would soon share its proposals with the community.

Wycombe District Council confirmed Morrisons does not require its approval to change the use of the building from a pub into a shop, unless the retailer proposes to alter or extend the existing building.

It added: “As we have no control over the change of use we cannot consider any impact in terms of traffic generation, highways or access and vehicles exiting from the site.”

In a statement, Enterprise Inns, which owns the pub, said: “Enterprise has continued to invest in The Downley Donkey in recent years.

“But despite advertising the permanent lease during that time we have not received any viable long-term offers from prospective publicans.”

Resident and Donkey regular Paul Brookes said: “It’s a massive blow to Downley. It’s another nail in the coffin for local traders in the area.

“It’s also another place gone for the community to go to socialise. The feeling is strong in Downley; it would be a massive loss to the village.”

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12:53pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Fit2drop says...

Well you didnt want the pub either. it shut because not enough people drank there.
Well you didnt want the pub either. it shut because not enough people drank there. Fit2drop
  • Score: 35

12:57pm Thu 27 Mar 14

i_hate_u says...

“Is Downley just going to become a smaller version of High Wycombe town centre, riddled with supermarkets and charity shops?

Whats that all about then?
“Is Downley just going to become a smaller version of High Wycombe town centre, riddled with supermarkets and charity shops? Whats that all about then? i_hate_u
  • Score: 15

1:54pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Bartholomew HuckleBerry says...

I am not particularly for the plans to introduce another supermarket in such a small community where smaller businesses are struggling to survive. Only last week one such grocery business raised its concerns that it will shut down due to loosing customers. This plan must have hit them even harder now.
However there is a flaw whenever it comes to residents getting concerned over increased traffic. Because despite of numerous residents being against the idea , you cannot have an influx of traffic if already they are saying that do not want the store to be there. Either they WILL be going there to shop or they are expecting people to drive from miles and miles away just to visit he Downley Morrissons ! As they will be better off visitng the main store in the town centre without any resistnce from Downley residents.
I am not particularly for the plans to introduce another supermarket in such a small community where smaller businesses are struggling to survive. Only last week one such grocery business raised its concerns that it will shut down due to loosing customers. This plan must have hit them even harder now. However there is a flaw whenever it comes to residents getting concerned over increased traffic. Because despite of numerous residents being against the idea , you cannot have an influx of traffic if already they are saying that do not want the store to be there. Either they WILL be going there to shop or they are expecting people to drive from miles and miles away just to visit he Downley Morrissons ! As they will be better off visitng the main store in the town centre without any resistnce from Downley residents. Bartholomew HuckleBerry
  • Score: 11

2:19pm Thu 27 Mar 14

mother henpeck says...

get over it downley its a dump anyway
get over it downley its a dump anyway mother henpeck
  • Score: 0

4:06pm Thu 27 Mar 14

sparky49 says...

mother henpeck wrote:
get over it downley its a dump anyway
Don't you mean Dumpley?
Look at the bigger picture here!
Enterprise Inns are well known for shoddy practice, they encourage tenants then hold them to ransom forcing them to use their preferred suppliers at a very competitive price which passed onto the customer resulting in high bar prices, if the landlord drops the price he can not survive and is prevented from using a competitive supplier. This is a well known Enterprise trick as they then sell the pub off to a major high street chain, citing that know one has come forward to take up the lease.

As well as this I'm afraid the great British public do not visit pubs in the numbers they used to do.

The residents could help by using the pub, having family nights, family days, watch the sport there. After all they have 2 bars. Support your Landlord, drive out the idiots and stand together.

I suspect this will go ahead which would be a great shame
[quote][p][bold]mother henpeck[/bold] wrote: get over it downley its a dump anyway[/p][/quote]Don't you mean Dumpley? Look at the bigger picture here! Enterprise Inns are well known for shoddy practice, they encourage tenants then hold them to ransom forcing them to use their preferred suppliers at a very competitive price which passed onto the customer resulting in high bar prices, if the landlord drops the price he can not survive and is prevented from using a competitive supplier. This is a well known Enterprise trick as they then sell the pub off to a major high street chain, citing that know one has come forward to take up the lease. As well as this I'm afraid the great British public do not visit pubs in the numbers they used to do. The residents could help by using the pub, having family nights, family days, watch the sport there. After all they have 2 bars. Support your Landlord, drive out the idiots and stand together. I suspect this will go ahead which would be a great shame sparky49
  • Score: 6

4:07pm Thu 27 Mar 14

sparky49 says...

sparky49 wrote:
mother henpeck wrote:
get over it downley its a dump anyway
Don't you mean Dumpley?
Look at the bigger picture here!
Enterprise Inns are well known for shoddy practice, they encourage tenants then hold them to ransom forcing them to use their preferred suppliers at a very competitive price which passed onto the customer resulting in high bar prices, if the landlord drops the price he can not survive and is prevented from using a competitive supplier. This is a well known Enterprise trick as they then sell the pub off to a major high street chain, citing that know one has come forward to take up the lease.

As well as this I'm afraid the great British public do not visit pubs in the numbers they used to do.

The residents could help by using the pub, having family nights, family days, watch the sport there. After all they have 2 bars. Support your Landlord, drive out the idiots and stand together.

I suspect this will go ahead which would be a great shame
should read uncompetitive suppliers
[quote][p][bold]sparky49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mother henpeck[/bold] wrote: get over it downley its a dump anyway[/p][/quote]Don't you mean Dumpley? Look at the bigger picture here! Enterprise Inns are well known for shoddy practice, they encourage tenants then hold them to ransom forcing them to use their preferred suppliers at a very competitive price which passed onto the customer resulting in high bar prices, if the landlord drops the price he can not survive and is prevented from using a competitive supplier. This is a well known Enterprise trick as they then sell the pub off to a major high street chain, citing that know one has come forward to take up the lease. As well as this I'm afraid the great British public do not visit pubs in the numbers they used to do. The residents could help by using the pub, having family nights, family days, watch the sport there. After all they have 2 bars. Support your Landlord, drive out the idiots and stand together. I suspect this will go ahead which would be a great shame[/p][/quote]should read uncompetitive suppliers sparky49
  • Score: 2

4:10pm Thu 27 Mar 14

jont82 says...

**** those charity shops and their attempts to help people.
**** those charity shops and their attempts to help people. jont82
  • Score: 3

5:49pm Thu 27 Mar 14

mikeyt17 says...

Come on morrisons save your money here and spend it on sorting out your wycombe store ...understaffed lack of stock...no management control
Come on morrisons save your money here and spend it on sorting out your wycombe store ...understaffed lack of stock...no management control mikeyt17
  • Score: 12

6:15pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Carernurse says...

Tescos is adequate for the size of our community,this is still classed as a village and to add an unnecessary eyesore is complete madness,High Wycombe is dying a slow death so lets preserve what we have left in Downley,we don't want to be an extension of a lost cause,
Tescos is adequate for the size of our community,this is still classed as a village and to add an unnecessary eyesore is complete madness,High Wycombe is dying a slow death so lets preserve what we have left in Downley,we don't want to be an extension of a lost cause, Carernurse
  • Score: 8

6:40pm Thu 27 Mar 14

KP1995 says...

Why do we need another huge supermarket in Wycombe we have everyone imaginable (Tesco, Morrison, ASDA, Sainsbury, Lidl etc.). There is even a Tesco around the corner from The Downley Donkey. Imagine the severe consequences on the local business who have been providing the village for over 25 years. Its a shame the big firms can just open up where ever they want. The Downley Donkey and local convenience stores have provided me with countless memories... In summary the point I'm conveying: WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER BIG STORE DRIVING AWAY OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
Why do we need another huge supermarket in Wycombe we have everyone imaginable (Tesco, Morrison, ASDA, Sainsbury, Lidl etc.). There is even a Tesco around the corner from The Downley Donkey. Imagine the severe consequences on the local business who have been providing the village for over 25 years. Its a shame the big firms can just open up where ever they want. The Downley Donkey and local convenience stores have provided me with countless memories... In summary the point I'm conveying: WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER BIG STORE DRIVING AWAY OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. KP1995
  • Score: 4

7:54pm Thu 27 Mar 14

sambucadan says...

We certainly DONT need another chain store but I fear that its a done deal and people will just fall in line and use it.. Morrison's won't be put off like the other big chains they don't care at all about local communities its just business to them. They know full well that after the dust has settled they'll make a killing there. The same thing happened to the Fleece and the same thing happened in Flackwell, people scream and shout about it but you can be sure they'll mostly end up using the new store more than most of them use the current pub!! Just hope the Brickies doesn't sell either because thats still on the Market!!!
We certainly DONT need another chain store but I fear that its a done deal and people will just fall in line and use it.. Morrison's won't be put off like the other big chains they don't care at all about local communities its just business to them. They know full well that after the dust has settled they'll make a killing there. The same thing happened to the Fleece and the same thing happened in Flackwell, people scream and shout about it but you can be sure they'll mostly end up using the new store more than most of them use the current pub!! Just hope the Brickies doesn't sell either because thats still on the Market!!! sambucadan
  • Score: 2

7:57pm Thu 27 Mar 14

sambucadan says...

sambucadan wrote:
We certainly DONT need another chain store but I fear that its a done deal and people will just fall in line and use it.. Morrison's won't be put off like the other big chains they don't care at all about local communities its just business to them. They know full well that after the dust has settled they'll make a killing there. The same thing happened to the Fleece and the same thing happened in Flackwell, people scream and shout about it but you can be sure they'll mostly end up using the new store more than most of them use the current pub!! Just hope the Brickies doesn't sell either because thats still on the Market!!!
Correction, its up for lease still...............
....but then we all know what that could lead to!!
[quote][p][bold]sambucadan[/bold] wrote: We certainly DONT need another chain store but I fear that its a done deal and people will just fall in line and use it.. Morrison's won't be put off like the other big chains they don't care at all about local communities its just business to them. They know full well that after the dust has settled they'll make a killing there. The same thing happened to the Fleece and the same thing happened in Flackwell, people scream and shout about it but you can be sure they'll mostly end up using the new store more than most of them use the current pub!! Just hope the Brickies doesn't sell either because thats still on the Market!!![/p][/quote]Correction, its up for lease still............... ....but then we all know what that could lead to!! sambucadan
  • Score: 0

11:11pm Thu 27 Mar 14

commuter wycombe to london says...

knock the ugly pub down, landscape the whole area into a new green space with trees and flower beds and maybe a small memorial for those who have shown real commitment and bought change to the Downley community - eg Edwin Burrows who I believe introduced the fabulous event of the torch light procession on the common on fireworks night, wardens at burrows house, nurses and carers at the heights, past teachers, community litter pickers, playgroup and brownie/scout/cub/gu
ide leaders, Sunday school / religious representatives, environmentalists, anyone who really did make that difference to our lives and who is no longer with us. there is a vast loss of gardens to concrete driveways and downley is becoming an ugly bland noisy concrete mass. Lets give the natural world a bigger share of our area and make downley a bit prettier. We have a self serve Tesco on the doorstep surrounded by struggling independent stores. Morrisons main store is only a short distance away and most families have more than one car to take them there and back in a jiffy. we just do not need another store, even for the sake of variety.
knock the ugly pub down, landscape the whole area into a new green space with trees and flower beds and maybe a small memorial for those who have shown real commitment and bought change to the Downley community - eg Edwin Burrows who I believe introduced the fabulous event of the torch light procession on the common on fireworks night, wardens at burrows house, nurses and carers at the heights, past teachers, community litter pickers, playgroup and brownie/scout/cub/gu ide leaders, Sunday school / religious representatives, environmentalists, anyone who really did make that difference to our lives and who is no longer with us. there is a vast loss of gardens to concrete driveways and downley is becoming an ugly bland noisy concrete mass. Lets give the natural world a bigger share of our area and make downley a bit prettier. We have a self serve Tesco on the doorstep surrounded by struggling independent stores. Morrisons main store is only a short distance away and most families have more than one car to take them there and back in a jiffy. we just do not need another store, even for the sake of variety. commuter wycombe to london
  • Score: 7

11:33pm Thu 27 Mar 14

chris740 says...

a pound shop would be better
a pound shop would be better chris740
  • Score: -1

6:06am Fri 28 Mar 14

1wycombe says...

good luck morrisons. all the best
from downly boy since 1980
good luck morrisons. all the best from downly boy since 1980 1wycombe
  • Score: -1

8:45am Fri 28 Mar 14

piran says...

More Buckinghamshire NIMBYs frightened of change. The pub is closing because they did not use it. If a store arrives, easy answer - you are free not to use it! But I bet they all will !! Double standards or what!
More Buckinghamshire NIMBYs frightened of change. The pub is closing because they did not use it. If a store arrives, easy answer - you are free not to use it! But I bet they all will !! Double standards or what! piran
  • Score: 4

10:24am Fri 28 Mar 14

Anita21072 says...

I've lived in Downley for 30 years and I still think a morrisons local is a fabulous idea. It will bring more employment and get rid of the drug den pub. People are concerned about extra traffic but at least they won't be drink drivers like before therefore protecting our residents. My family and I will definitely use it and fully support morrisons
I've lived in Downley for 30 years and I still think a morrisons local is a fabulous idea. It will bring more employment and get rid of the drug den pub. People are concerned about extra traffic but at least they won't be drink drivers like before therefore protecting our residents. My family and I will definitely use it and fully support morrisons Anita21072
  • Score: 4

3:33pm Fri 28 Mar 14

downleylocal says...

Yet more Downley is a drug den comments. I don't know where you all think Downley is. The Downley I have lived in for 20+ years is a very family-centred residential area with a great primary school and good access to the countryside. There is a misconception that most of The Pastures and Hithercroft Road and points east of there are in Downley but they are not and never have been.
Plomer Green Lane (where the Donkey is) is a residential street and the obvious thing to do with the site if the pub is not viable, is get the Council to allow housing to be built on it. There would be lots of builders keen to have such a prime site.
Yet more Downley is a drug den comments. I don't know where you all think Downley is. The Downley I have lived in for 20+ years is a very family-centred residential area with a great primary school and good access to the countryside. There is a misconception that most of The Pastures and Hithercroft Road and points east of there are in Downley but they are not and never have been. Plomer Green Lane (where the Donkey is) is a residential street and the obvious thing to do with the site if the pub is not viable, is get the Council to allow housing to be built on it. There would be lots of builders keen to have such a prime site. downleylocal
  • Score: 7

5:09pm Fri 28 Mar 14

RayKing says...

If the pub hasn't been used it isn't a viable business. The other 2 pubs in Downley are doing farely well so I suspect the Downley Donkey just isn't a great place to spend an evening anymore. Downley village is a lovely picturesque place and a lovely place to live. The best thing would be to knock the pub down and build some more (but not too many) houses, in keeping with the existing nearby houses. Another supermarket would be a complete disaster for this lovely village.
If the pub hasn't been used it isn't a viable business. The other 2 pubs in Downley are doing farely well so I suspect the Downley Donkey just isn't a great place to spend an evening anymore. Downley village is a lovely picturesque place and a lovely place to live. The best thing would be to knock the pub down and build some more (but not too many) houses, in keeping with the existing nearby houses. Another supermarket would be a complete disaster for this lovely village. RayKing
  • Score: 2

7:22pm Fri 28 Mar 14

retchub says...

the simp;e answer is DON,T support morrisons if it goes ahead ,
the simp;e answer is DON,T support morrisons if it goes ahead , retchub
  • Score: 0

11:18am Sat 29 Mar 14

bluefeet says...

The Donkey site is the gateway to Downley. Admittedly, the Donkey is an ugly pub but do we really want the entrance to the village marked by a Morrisons?
The Donkey site is the gateway to Downley. Admittedly, the Donkey is an ugly pub but do we really want the entrance to the village marked by a Morrisons? bluefeet
  • Score: 0

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