Family appeal to find driver after puppy badly hurt in crash

Family appeal to find driver after puppy badly hurt in crash

Family appeal to find driver after puppy badly hurt in crash

First published in News Bucks Free Press: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

A DEVASTATED family from Marlow have made an emotional plea to find the driver of a car who hit their beloved puppy and drove away, leaving it with a badly broken leg.

Amy Vass, 30, was walking eight-month old Jack Russell Darcey on Wiltshire Road near her home with her sister in law Carly Hall and daughter Melissa last Tuesday, April 22 around 9.30am.

Darcy slipped her lead, darted off the pavement and was struck by a passing car.

After stopping initially, Amy said the woman behind the wheel drove away despite the shocked trio asking the driver to wait while they went inside to find a blanket for the injured dog.

Amy’s partner Justin Hall, 29, said the family is determined to find the driver, a woman estimated to be in her forties, after Darcey had to undergo expensive operations to fix her broken leg.

And while he concedes the dog was loose when the accident happened, he claims it does not excuse the driver’s actions, which he says have been extremely stressful his heavily pregnant girlfriend.

He said: "The vehicle hit the dog and my sister and girlfriend picked her up. The lady in the car asked if the dog was OK, and my girlfriend said she thought her leg was broken.

"They went inside to get a blanket for her and when they came back outside the driver was gone. The dog was badly hurt and her back leg was flopping around everywhere.

"It’s the fact that the woman has driven off that most annoys us. It’s difficult and stressful for my girlfriend, she’s pregnant and due on May 5.

"We’re appealing for the driver to come forward - I have had to take time off work because of this, and the vets bills are getting on for £2000. More to the point it is about honesty."

We aware of the situation and that the dog ran in the road but it is a criminal offence to drive off, it is like hitting a child and not stopping. I’m not going to let this lie; we will keep going until we find her because it’s just not right."

Amy has described the driver as a woman in her forties, with short brown hair possibly greying at the roots and with dark rimmed glasses.

They believe the car could be a new shape Volkswagen Passatt or Vauxhall Astra with bright ‘ice white’ headlights.

Police have confirmed they were called on Tuesday, April 22 to Wiltshire Road after reports that a car had collided with a dog and driven away after initially stopping.

If you have any information on the incident, contact the police on the non emergency number 101.

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10:32am Mon 5 May 14

Possum1 says...

Road Traffic Accidents Involving Dogs
The Road Traffic Act 1988 covers dogs involved in road traffic accidents and also makes it an offence for a dog to be offlead on a designated road. Road traffic accident does not include dogs travelling in a car that is involved in an accident or accidents involving vehicles that are not intended or adapted for use on roads. However if a dog runs into the road and is hit or causes an accident there are a number of steps that must be taken. Firstly the driver of the vehicle must stop and the owner or person in charge of the dog can ask the driver to supply their name and address. If the driver is not the owner of the vehicle then he must supply the owner’s details if requested. If a driver refuses or fails to stop and give details they must report it as soon as possible, at least within 24 hours. Failure to do so could lead to prosecution of the driver unless the magistrates believe the driver was unaware of the accident.
Road Traffic Accidents Involving Dogs The Road Traffic Act 1988 covers dogs involved in road traffic accidents and also makes it an offence for a dog to be offlead on a designated road. Road traffic accident does not include dogs travelling in a car that is involved in an accident or accidents involving vehicles that are not intended or adapted for use on roads. However if a dog runs into the road and is hit or causes an accident there are a number of steps that must be taken. Firstly the driver of the vehicle must stop and the owner or person in charge of the dog can ask the driver to supply their name and address. If the driver is not the owner of the vehicle then he must supply the owner’s details if requested. If a driver refuses or fails to stop and give details they must report it as soon as possible, at least within 24 hours. Failure to do so could lead to prosecution of the driver unless the magistrates believe the driver was unaware of the accident. Possum1
  • Score: 10

11:06am Mon 5 May 14

A VOTER says...

Not wanting to start an argument, but...
The dog was off it's lead and ran into the road.
The driver unintentionally hit the dog, and then stopped, as per the Road Traffic Laws. The driver got out of the car and spoke to the owner of the dog.
The owner of the dog went inside, with the dog, without asking for details of the driver. It would seem obvious to many that the driver thought that was the end of it, so continued on her journey, and was possibly equally distressed.
Whilst it's unfortunate that the dog was injured, it was an accident, nothing more. Trying now to hunt down the driver reeks of persecution for something that was the real responsibility of the dog owner. If anything, the dog owner is the one who should be held fully liable for this accident.
Not wanting to start an argument, but... The dog was off it's lead and ran into the road. The driver unintentionally hit the dog, and then stopped, as per the Road Traffic Laws. The driver got out of the car and spoke to the owner of the dog. The owner of the dog went inside, with the dog, without asking for details of the driver. It would seem obvious to many that the driver thought that was the end of it, so continued on her journey, and was possibly equally distressed. Whilst it's unfortunate that the dog was injured, it was an accident, nothing more. Trying now to hunt down the driver reeks of persecution for something that was the real responsibility of the dog owner. If anything, the dog owner is the one who should be held fully liable for this accident. A VOTER
  • Score: 86

11:45am Mon 5 May 14

Good Life says...

Devastated?? The dog is still alive thankfully with just a broken leg and as any responsible dog owner they should have ensured it was on an appropriate strong enough lead whilst on the highway/path also most responsible pet owners have insurance for injuries/illness and third party liability,
The only reason they are devastated is because they probably have no insurance and think the car driver is responsible to pay the vet bills but sorry not responsible as the law has been broken by the dog owner for failing to keep the dog under control and on the lead.
The only offence which is not a criminal one is to not report it within 24 hours.
Devastated?? The dog is still alive thankfully with just a broken leg and as any responsible dog owner they should have ensured it was on an appropriate strong enough lead whilst on the highway/path also most responsible pet owners have insurance for injuries/illness and third party liability, The only reason they are devastated is because they probably have no insurance and think the car driver is responsible to pay the vet bills but sorry not responsible as the law has been broken by the dog owner for failing to keep the dog under control and on the lead. The only offence which is not a criminal one is to not report it within 24 hours. Good Life
  • Score: 57

12:50pm Mon 5 May 14

retchub says...

THE FACT REMAINS THE DRIVER WENT OFF WITHOUT GIVING DETAILS AND HAS STILL NOT REPORTED IT. PERHAPS THERE WAS SOME REASON FOR THIS ??????
THE FACT REMAINS THE DRIVER WENT OFF WITHOUT GIVING DETAILS AND HAS STILL NOT REPORTED IT. PERHAPS THERE WAS SOME REASON FOR THIS ?????? retchub
  • Score: -61

12:52pm Mon 5 May 14

retchub says...

THE FACT REMAINS THE DRIVER DID NOT GIVE HER DETAILS OR REPORT IT WHICH IS AN OFFENCE WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. PERHAPS SHE HAD SOME REASON NOT TO DO SO ?????????????? !!!
THE FACT REMAINS THE DRIVER DID NOT GIVE HER DETAILS OR REPORT IT WHICH IS AN OFFENCE WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. PERHAPS SHE HAD SOME REASON NOT TO DO SO ?????????????? !!! retchub
  • Score: -57

12:57pm Mon 5 May 14

retchub says...

A VOTER wrote:
Not wanting to start an argument, but...
The dog was off it's lead and ran into the road.
The driver unintentionally hit the dog, and then stopped, as per the Road Traffic Laws. The driver got out of the car and spoke to the owner of the dog.
The owner of the dog went inside, with the dog, without asking for details of the driver. It would seem obvious to many that the driver thought that was the end of it, so continued on her journey, and was possibly equally distressed.
Whilst it's unfortunate that the dog was injured, it was an accident, nothing more. Trying now to hunt down the driver reeks of persecution for something that was the real responsibility of the dog owner. If anything, the dog owner is the one who should be held fully liable for this accident.
WHY DID SHE NOT REPORT IT TO THE POLICE THEN?????????????
[quote][p][bold]A VOTER[/bold] wrote: Not wanting to start an argument, but... The dog was off it's lead and ran into the road. The driver unintentionally hit the dog, and then stopped, as per the Road Traffic Laws. The driver got out of the car and spoke to the owner of the dog. The owner of the dog went inside, with the dog, without asking for details of the driver. It would seem obvious to many that the driver thought that was the end of it, so continued on her journey, and was possibly equally distressed. Whilst it's unfortunate that the dog was injured, it was an accident, nothing more. Trying now to hunt down the driver reeks of persecution for something that was the real responsibility of the dog owner. If anything, the dog owner is the one who should be held fully liable for this accident.[/p][/quote]WHY DID SHE NOT REPORT IT TO THE POLICE THEN????????????? retchub
  • Score: -54

1:16pm Mon 5 May 14

richhoops says...

"it is like hitting a child and not stopping"

No it's not . It's like hitting a dog. And stopping.
"it is like hitting a child and not stopping" No it's not . It's like hitting a dog. And stopping. richhoops
  • Score: 70

1:39pm Mon 5 May 14

Dave.. says...

Pathetic why are they trying to blame the driver. It their fault for letting the dog run into the road. END OF STOREY
Pathetic why are they trying to blame the driver. It their fault for letting the dog run into the road. END OF STOREY Dave..
  • Score: 61

3:20pm Mon 5 May 14

Scarletto says...

Dave can't spell...It's "story" not "storey" and such errrrrrors undermine the kase you're putting foreward! Geddit?

A heartless person drives on without offering help. This family might also like help with the vet's bill too. No excuse. Possibly shameful. Best to comply with the law.
We should all hope she sees this family's appeal and gets in touch. Perhaps she misunderstood the situation though.
Dave can't spell...It's "story" not "storey" and such errrrrrors undermine the kase you're putting foreward! Geddit? A heartless person drives on without offering help. This family might also like help with the vet's bill too. No excuse. Possibly shameful. Best to comply with the law. We should all hope she sees this family's appeal and gets in touch. Perhaps she misunderstood the situation though. Scarletto
  • Score: -56

4:42pm Mon 5 May 14

A VOTER says...

Scarletto wrote:
Dave can't spell...It's "story" not "storey" and such errrrrrors undermine the kase you're putting foreward! Geddit?

A heartless person drives on without offering help. This family might also like help with the vet's bill too. No excuse. Possibly shameful. Best to comply with the law.
We should all hope she sees this family's appeal and gets in touch. Perhaps she misunderstood the situation though.
But the fault was 100% with the dog owner.
Why should the driver have to pay for the irresponsibility and carelessness of the dog owner?
Who would have paid for the damage to the vehicle, had the driver swerved to avoid the dog, and ended-up hitting a wall?
What would have happened had the driver hit that wall, and died as a result of that dog owner's lack of control of the dog?

The bottom line is, the driver stopped. The dog owner picked-up the dog and walked away with it. The dog owner did this without asking for any details from the driver.
The driver probably assumed that was the end of it, so drove away.
[quote][p][bold]Scarletto[/bold] wrote: Dave can't spell...It's "story" not "storey" and such errrrrrors undermine the kase you're putting foreward! Geddit? A heartless person drives on without offering help. This family might also like help with the vet's bill too. No excuse. Possibly shameful. Best to comply with the law. We should all hope she sees this family's appeal and gets in touch. Perhaps she misunderstood the situation though.[/p][/quote]But the fault was 100% with the dog owner. Why should the driver have to pay for the irresponsibility and carelessness of the dog owner? Who would have paid for the damage to the vehicle, had the driver swerved to avoid the dog, and ended-up hitting a wall? What would have happened had the driver hit that wall, and died as a result of that dog owner's lack of control of the dog? The bottom line is, the driver stopped. The dog owner picked-up the dog and walked away with it. The dog owner did this without asking for any details from the driver. The driver probably assumed that was the end of it, so drove away. A VOTER
  • Score: 70

8:22pm Mon 5 May 14

bluefeet says...

So these idiots let their dog run in front of a car and then have the nerve to blame the driver who stopped to ask if the dog was ok? Good grief what planet are they on? Presumably the "I can't pay my vet bill so I'll see if I can fob it off on someone else'" planet! Some people should not be allowed to have animals. Sadly, no such laws apply to children - as if being 'heavily pregnant' is an excuse for letting your dog run into the road then trying to blame an innocent driver.
So these idiots let their dog run in front of a car and then have the nerve to blame the driver who stopped to ask if the dog was ok? Good grief what planet are they on? Presumably the "I can't pay my vet bill so I'll see if I can fob it off on someone else'" planet! Some people should not be allowed to have animals. Sadly, no such laws apply to children - as if being 'heavily pregnant' is an excuse for letting your dog run into the road then trying to blame an innocent driver. bluefeet
  • Score: 58

8:30pm Mon 5 May 14

southguy says...

The main thing is the dog is alive.i saw a dog get killed on sheepridge lane last september or october.i cried for days and the poor man had to carry the dog home while with another dog.the driver didnt even stop.it happend right infront ov me as no car was in front.i rushed out of my car to it and strocked it until it passed.so just be greatful its alive
The main thing is the dog is alive.i saw a dog get killed on sheepridge lane last september or october.i cried for days and the poor man had to carry the dog home while with another dog.the driver didnt even stop.it happend right infront ov me as no car was in front.i rushed out of my car to it and strocked it until it passed.so just be greatful its alive southguy
  • Score: 19

9:11pm Mon 5 May 14

Lara B says...

My aunties dog got run over by a horse lorry but it was sadly an accident as my auntie had her dog on a retractable lead and whilst she thought she had pulled the lead in, clearly it failed and sadly an incident driven crushed the beautiful dog.
At no time would my auntie of said it was the drivers fault or tried to blame the driver.
These people are shameless!
If your dog slipped it's lead then it's your fault and nobody else's.
Maybe train the dog so it doesn't run into the road or perhaps get a decent lead!
Sick of people like this blaming others.
My aunties dog got run over by a horse lorry but it was sadly an accident as my auntie had her dog on a retractable lead and whilst she thought she had pulled the lead in, clearly it failed and sadly an incident driven crushed the beautiful dog. At no time would my auntie of said it was the drivers fault or tried to blame the driver. These people are shameless! If your dog slipped it's lead then it's your fault and nobody else's. Maybe train the dog so it doesn't run into the road or perhaps get a decent lead! Sick of people like this blaming others. Lara B
  • Score: 46

5:58am Tue 6 May 14

MunsterX says...

So think twice next time when you let the dog of the lead you daft twonk; it's a bit like getting an ugly bird up the duff adter a few drinks - don't do it unless you can cope with your actions when sober!
So think twice next time when you let the dog of the lead you daft twonk; it's a bit like getting an ugly bird up the duff adter a few drinks - don't do it unless you can cope with your actions when sober! MunsterX
  • Score: 18

7:42am Tue 6 May 14

Gaulnut says...

How ignorant, trying to blame the driver for their own stupid mistake. A driver that did the decent thing and stopped. Bring back dog licensing so people like this can be banned from owning them.
How ignorant, trying to blame the driver for their own stupid mistake. A driver that did the decent thing and stopped. Bring back dog licensing so people like this can be banned from owning them. Gaulnut
  • Score: 32

2:40pm Tue 6 May 14

Marmite XO says...

Perhaps the female driver drove off to get to hospital as she suffered whiplash breaking to avoid the reckless dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she sued. At the very least this dangerous dog should be put down.
Perhaps the female driver drove off to get to hospital as she suffered whiplash breaking to avoid the reckless dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she sued. At the very least this dangerous dog should be put down. Marmite XO
  • Score: 8

2:58pm Tue 6 May 14

buser says...

We too lost a much loved dog when somebody unbolted the 6' side gate and opened it. The dog ran out onto the road and was killed. Certainly not the lorry driver's fault!! The gate is now padlocked and triple bolted, and the dogs are thus protected, you learn from your mistakes.
Just returned from a trip to Ashridge. Every single dog there, from the smallest to the biggest, yes, even a young Great Dane, was on a harness and lead, virtually impossible to 'slip' if fitted properly. Just what sort of moron walks a puppy along a road, on a collar and lead, which it can slip, and blames the nearest motorist when the little dear slips the collar and runs into the road? A totally irresponsible dog owner.
We too lost a much loved dog when somebody unbolted the 6' side gate and opened it. The dog ran out onto the road and was killed. Certainly not the lorry driver's fault!! The gate is now padlocked and triple bolted, and the dogs are thus protected, you learn from your mistakes. Just returned from a trip to Ashridge. Every single dog there, from the smallest to the biggest, yes, even a young Great Dane, was on a harness and lead, virtually impossible to 'slip' if fitted properly. Just what sort of moron walks a puppy along a road, on a collar and lead, which it can slip, and blames the nearest motorist when the little dear slips the collar and runs into the road? A totally irresponsible dog owner. buser
  • Score: 25

3:07pm Tue 6 May 14

buser says...

Marmite XO wrote:
Perhaps the female driver drove off to get to hospital as she suffered whiplash breaking to avoid the reckless dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she sued. At the very least this dangerous dog should be put down.
Oh hang on! Put the dog down? The dog obviously isn't properly trained but that isn't the dog's fault that is down to the stupid owners! If you have a dog it is your responsibility to train it and keep it under control. I'm with the ban the owner's brigade, not a single thought for the car driver, the trauma or injury she possibly suffered or any damage to her vehicle.
[quote][p][bold]Marmite XO[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the female driver drove off to get to hospital as she suffered whiplash breaking to avoid the reckless dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she sued. At the very least this dangerous dog should be put down.[/p][/quote]Oh hang on! Put the dog down? The dog obviously isn't properly trained but that isn't the dog's fault that is down to the stupid owners! If you have a dog it is your responsibility to train it and keep it under control. I'm with the ban the owner's brigade, not a single thought for the car driver, the trauma or injury she possibly suffered or any damage to her vehicle. buser
  • Score: 21

6:22am Wed 7 May 14

demoness the second says...

A VOTER wrote:
Scarletto wrote:
Dave can't spell...It's "story" not "storey" and such errrrrrors undermine the kase you're putting foreward! Geddit?

A heartless person drives on without offering help. This family might also like help with the vet's bill too. No excuse. Possibly shameful. Best to comply with the law.
We should all hope she sees this family's appeal and gets in touch. Perhaps she misunderstood the situation though.
But the fault was 100% with the dog owner.
Why should the driver have to pay for the irresponsibility and carelessness of the dog owner?
Who would have paid for the damage to the vehicle, had the driver swerved to avoid the dog, and ended-up hitting a wall?
What would have happened had the driver hit that wall, and died as a result of that dog owner's lack of control of the dog?

The bottom line is, the driver stopped. The dog owner picked-up the dog and walked away with it. The dog owner did this without asking for any details from the driver.
The driver probably assumed that was the end of it, so drove away.
It is called being a decent human being. I know darn well ( god forbid) if I ever did such a thing, I would stop until I was satisfied that the situation was under control. Hell I would even offer to run the owner and dog to the vets.
The owner was probably in shock .
And if you read the article, she was asked to wait but drove off anyway.
And as for the people who are bleating on about the damage to the car... well my mind boggles. Presumably she is insured - or perhaps she isn't which is why she drove off.
I love the self righteous remarks from other dog owners as well.

I am sure I will be arrowed down for this but as far as I am concerned this woman should have waited. The chances are she would not have been asked to pay for anything - a lot of assumptions are being made here.
[quote][p][bold]A VOTER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarletto[/bold] wrote: Dave can't spell...It's "story" not "storey" and such errrrrrors undermine the kase you're putting foreward! Geddit? A heartless person drives on without offering help. This family might also like help with the vet's bill too. No excuse. Possibly shameful. Best to comply with the law. We should all hope she sees this family's appeal and gets in touch. Perhaps she misunderstood the situation though.[/p][/quote]But the fault was 100% with the dog owner. Why should the driver have to pay for the irresponsibility and carelessness of the dog owner? Who would have paid for the damage to the vehicle, had the driver swerved to avoid the dog, and ended-up hitting a wall? What would have happened had the driver hit that wall, and died as a result of that dog owner's lack of control of the dog? The bottom line is, the driver stopped. The dog owner picked-up the dog and walked away with it. The dog owner did this without asking for any details from the driver. The driver probably assumed that was the end of it, so drove away.[/p][/quote]It is called being a decent human being. I know darn well ( god forbid) if I ever did such a thing, I would stop until I was satisfied that the situation was under control. Hell I would even offer to run the owner and dog to the vets. The owner was probably in shock . And if you read the article, she was asked to wait but drove off anyway. And as for the people who are bleating on about the damage to the car... well my mind boggles. Presumably she is insured - or perhaps she isn't which is why she drove off. I love the self righteous remarks from other dog owners as well. I am sure I will be arrowed down for this but as far as I am concerned this woman should have waited. The chances are she would not have been asked to pay for anything - a lot of assumptions are being made here. demoness the second
  • Score: -19

6:26am Wed 7 May 14

demoness the second says...

buser wrote:
We too lost a much loved dog when somebody unbolted the 6' side gate and opened it. The dog ran out onto the road and was killed. Certainly not the lorry driver's fault!! The gate is now padlocked and triple bolted, and the dogs are thus protected, you learn from your mistakes.
Just returned from a trip to Ashridge. Every single dog there, from the smallest to the biggest, yes, even a young Great Dane, was on a harness and lead, virtually impossible to 'slip' if fitted properly. Just what sort of moron walks a puppy along a road, on a collar and lead, which it can slip, and blames the nearest motorist when the little dear slips the collar and runs into the road? A totally irresponsible dog owner.
How lovely.
Calling someone a moron.
Well does that make you a moron when you made a mistake and got a dog killed? Should you have been banned from keeping a dog as clearly you did not know how to secure your garden?
I am sure this couple will "learn from their mistakes" as well.
[quote][p][bold]buser[/bold] wrote: We too lost a much loved dog when somebody unbolted the 6' side gate and opened it. The dog ran out onto the road and was killed. Certainly not the lorry driver's fault!! The gate is now padlocked and triple bolted, and the dogs are thus protected, you learn from your mistakes. Just returned from a trip to Ashridge. Every single dog there, from the smallest to the biggest, yes, even a young Great Dane, was on a harness and lead, virtually impossible to 'slip' if fitted properly. Just what sort of moron walks a puppy along a road, on a collar and lead, which it can slip, and blames the nearest motorist when the little dear slips the collar and runs into the road? A totally irresponsible dog owner.[/p][/quote]How lovely. Calling someone a moron. Well does that make you a moron when you made a mistake and got a dog killed? Should you have been banned from keeping a dog as clearly you did not know how to secure your garden? I am sure this couple will "learn from their mistakes" as well. demoness the second
  • Score: -14

8:56am Wed 7 May 14

buser says...

Just for the record, in the case of the sad lose of our dog, the 6' solid wooden side gate was bolted, at the top, on the garden side. The person climbed up, unbolted the gate, gained unauthorised access and left the gate unlatched. Had we been aware that this person required access, the dog would not have had access to the rear garden. It was an unfortunate incident, the lorry driver didn't stop, probably unaware that his vehicle had struck the dog, and we didn't feel it warranted a police complaint or a newspaper report. Each to their own way of coping, Thankfully, in this case, the little dog survived, the motorist did stop and life goes on. . I'll happily apologise for the use of' 'moron', 'irresponsible' is more apt, and I acknowledge that accidents occur,. For me, dogs and their owners should be trained and the owner is responsible for their dog at all times.
Just for the record, in the case of the sad lose of our dog, the 6' solid wooden side gate was bolted, at the top, on the garden side. The person climbed up, unbolted the gate, gained unauthorised access and left the gate unlatched. Had we been aware that this person required access, the dog would not have had access to the rear garden. It was an unfortunate incident, the lorry driver didn't stop, probably unaware that his vehicle had struck the dog, and we didn't feel it warranted a police complaint or a newspaper report. Each to their own way of coping, Thankfully, in this case, the little dog survived, the motorist did stop and life goes on. . I'll happily apologise for the use of' 'moron', 'irresponsible' is more apt, and I acknowledge that accidents occur,. For me, dogs and their owners should be trained and the owner is responsible for their dog at all times. buser
  • Score: 14

9:35am Wed 7 May 14

demoness the second says...

buser wrote:
Marmite XO wrote:
Perhaps the female driver drove off to get to hospital as she suffered whiplash breaking to avoid the reckless dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she sued. At the very least this dangerous dog should be put down.
Oh hang on! Put the dog down? The dog obviously isn't properly trained but that isn't the dog's fault that is down to the stupid owners! If you have a dog it is your responsibility to train it and keep it under control. I'm with the ban the owner's brigade, not a single thought for the car driver, the trauma or injury she possibly suffered or any damage to her vehicle.
Let's see.
Driver in a metal box with a seat belt on which probably weighs over a ton.
Defenseless small animal without protection at all.

*thinks hard*
Nope can't feel any sympathy for the human being well protected in the car at all.
[quote][p][bold]buser[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marmite XO[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the female driver drove off to get to hospital as she suffered whiplash breaking to avoid the reckless dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she sued. At the very least this dangerous dog should be put down.[/p][/quote]Oh hang on! Put the dog down? The dog obviously isn't properly trained but that isn't the dog's fault that is down to the stupid owners! If you have a dog it is your responsibility to train it and keep it under control. I'm with the ban the owner's brigade, not a single thought for the car driver, the trauma or injury she possibly suffered or any damage to her vehicle.[/p][/quote]Let's see. Driver in a metal box with a seat belt on which probably weighs over a ton. Defenseless small animal without protection at all. *thinks hard* Nope can't feel any sympathy for the human being well protected in the car at all. demoness the second
  • Score: -18

9:58am Wed 7 May 14

Gaulnut says...

demoness the second wrote:
buser wrote:
Marmite XO wrote:
Perhaps the female driver drove off to get to hospital as she suffered whiplash breaking to avoid the reckless dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she sued. At the very least this dangerous dog should be put down.
Oh hang on! Put the dog down? The dog obviously isn't properly trained but that isn't the dog's fault that is down to the stupid owners! If you have a dog it is your responsibility to train it and keep it under control. I'm with the ban the owner's brigade, not a single thought for the car driver, the trauma or injury she possibly suffered or any damage to her vehicle.
Let's see.
Driver in a metal box with a seat belt on which probably weighs over a ton.
Defenseless small animal without protection at all.

*thinks hard*
Nope can't feel any sympathy for the human being well protected in the car at all.
Clearly you didn't think hard enough. What if the driver had swerved to avoid the dog, mounted the path, and run over a few pedestrians? What if the car had swerved and hit a wall and killed the driver? Metal boxes and seat belts do not stop injuries and death, even at low speeds, even involving defenceless animals.

I feel sympathy for the pet owners, but I don't respect their trying to blame the driver at all.
[quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buser[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marmite XO[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the female driver drove off to get to hospital as she suffered whiplash breaking to avoid the reckless dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she sued. At the very least this dangerous dog should be put down.[/p][/quote]Oh hang on! Put the dog down? The dog obviously isn't properly trained but that isn't the dog's fault that is down to the stupid owners! If you have a dog it is your responsibility to train it and keep it under control. I'm with the ban the owner's brigade, not a single thought for the car driver, the trauma or injury she possibly suffered or any damage to her vehicle.[/p][/quote]Let's see. Driver in a metal box with a seat belt on which probably weighs over a ton. Defenseless small animal without protection at all. *thinks hard* Nope can't feel any sympathy for the human being well protected in the car at all.[/p][/quote]Clearly you didn't think hard enough. What if the driver had swerved to avoid the dog, mounted the path, and run over a few pedestrians? What if the car had swerved and hit a wall and killed the driver? Metal boxes and seat belts do not stop injuries and death, even at low speeds, even involving defenceless animals. I feel sympathy for the pet owners, but I don't respect their trying to blame the driver at all. Gaulnut
  • Score: 18

10:21am Wed 7 May 14

demoness the second says...

Gaulnut wrote:
demoness the second wrote:
buser wrote:
Marmite XO wrote:
Perhaps the female driver drove off to get to hospital as she suffered whiplash breaking to avoid the reckless dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she sued. At the very least this dangerous dog should be put down.
Oh hang on! Put the dog down? The dog obviously isn't properly trained but that isn't the dog's fault that is down to the stupid owners! If you have a dog it is your responsibility to train it and keep it under control. I'm with the ban the owner's brigade, not a single thought for the car driver, the trauma or injury she possibly suffered or any damage to her vehicle.
Let's see.
Driver in a metal box with a seat belt on which probably weighs over a ton.
Defenseless small animal without protection at all.

*thinks hard*
Nope can't feel any sympathy for the human being well protected in the car at all.
Clearly you didn't think hard enough. What if the driver had swerved to avoid the dog, mounted the path, and run over a few pedestrians? What if the car had swerved and hit a wall and killed the driver? Metal boxes and seat belts do not stop injuries and death, even at low speeds, even involving defenceless animals.

I feel sympathy for the pet owners, but I don't respect their trying to blame the driver at all.
But she didn't!
Had she had done then fair enough.
This story is not about the what ifs..
It is about the what happened.
I agree that the dog's owners were incredibly feckless in making sure that the dog could not slip it's lead. But I also do not have any sympathy for the driver either. She is not the victim. The owners are not the victim. The dog is.
[quote][p][bold]Gaulnut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buser[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marmite XO[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the female driver drove off to get to hospital as she suffered whiplash breaking to avoid the reckless dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she sued. At the very least this dangerous dog should be put down.[/p][/quote]Oh hang on! Put the dog down? The dog obviously isn't properly trained but that isn't the dog's fault that is down to the stupid owners! If you have a dog it is your responsibility to train it and keep it under control. I'm with the ban the owner's brigade, not a single thought for the car driver, the trauma or injury she possibly suffered or any damage to her vehicle.[/p][/quote]Let's see. Driver in a metal box with a seat belt on which probably weighs over a ton. Defenseless small animal without protection at all. *thinks hard* Nope can't feel any sympathy for the human being well protected in the car at all.[/p][/quote]Clearly you didn't think hard enough. What if the driver had swerved to avoid the dog, mounted the path, and run over a few pedestrians? What if the car had swerved and hit a wall and killed the driver? Metal boxes and seat belts do not stop injuries and death, even at low speeds, even involving defenceless animals. I feel sympathy for the pet owners, but I don't respect their trying to blame the driver at all.[/p][/quote]But she didn't! Had she had done then fair enough. This story is not about the what ifs.. It is about the what happened. I agree that the dog's owners were incredibly feckless in making sure that the dog could not slip it's lead. But I also do not have any sympathy for the driver either. She is not the victim. The owners are not the victim. The dog is. demoness the second
  • Score: -13

3:41pm Wed 7 May 14

BabyBoosh says...

Very obviously the family did not mean to harm their puppy but it was their actions that caused it to get injured. The driver did stop and ask after the puppy's health but I too would assume this would be enough if the accident was not the driver's fault. You are however supposed to exchange details but feel this is extremely unfair and could cause someone to lose their no claims bonus if the owner of this puppy had argued fault. If I was the driver I would go to the police now and claim ingorance of the finer points of the law. Let this be a lesson to all dog owners - if your dog runs out into the road and causes an accident YOU are liable! Get your dog insured as this could be anything from vet bills through to medical bills, loss of earnings and multiple car repairs!
Very obviously the family did not mean to harm their puppy but it was their actions that caused it to get injured. The driver did stop and ask after the puppy's health but I too would assume this would be enough if the accident was not the driver's fault. You are however supposed to exchange details but feel this is extremely unfair and could cause someone to lose their no claims bonus if the owner of this puppy had argued fault. If I was the driver I would go to the police now and claim ingorance of the finer points of the law. Let this be a lesson to all dog owners - if your dog runs out into the road and causes an accident YOU are liable! Get your dog insured as this could be anything from vet bills through to medical bills, loss of earnings and multiple car repairs! BabyBoosh
  • Score: 21

1:26am Thu 8 May 14

marlowbucks says...

Saw a small brown dog get its back broken a couple of nights ago. The driver stopped and 'phoned a nearby vet whom she knew. I made it clear to her that I'd seen the dog earlier, dashing onto the road and the accident was not the fault of the driver.
I was walking a dog on a lead at the time and, I must say, owners who can't control their dogs are a nuisance (to put it politely).
Saw a small brown dog get its back broken a couple of nights ago. The driver stopped and 'phoned a nearby vet whom she knew. I made it clear to her that I'd seen the dog earlier, dashing onto the road and the accident was not the fault of the driver. I was walking a dog on a lead at the time and, I must say, owners who can't control their dogs are a nuisance (to put it politely). marlowbucks
  • Score: 12

7:05am Thu 8 May 14

MunsterX says...

Why isn't the lady speaking up for herself; controlling behaviour here that needs to be investigated a little further?
Why isn't the lady speaking up for herself; controlling behaviour here that needs to be investigated a little further? MunsterX
  • Score: -4

12:52pm Thu 8 May 14

cant-polish-a-turd says...

Irresponsible dog owner if you ask me.
Irresponsible dog owner if you ask me. cant-polish-a-turd
  • Score: 13

2:35pm Thu 8 May 14

Carly Hall says...

Thank you for your carless, heartless and judgemental comments. A VOTER- the dog was on the lead and my report clearly says! I think you need to re read this article. How could you possibly continue your journey if she’s hit a dog? I understand accidents happen but she’s failed to stop as the police have told us this is an offence.

Goodlife- yes we are very happy that the puppy is still alive. Yes we have invested in a stronger lead for the puppy. More to the point she slipped her lead so surly this wouldn’t make a difference? We are not begging for money as the bet bill. Has been paid and it was paid the day we collected the puppy from the vets, more to the point the lady driver didn’t stop we could of done more to support this! Keeping the dog under control as you said, but it’s a puppy that’s not put of control at all very judgemental!

Richhoops - it’s like hitting a child yes if it was a child would she of stopped?

Dave- like it clearly says the dog slipped the lead and we have invested in a stronger lead. We are not blaming we are saying please could the heartless driver come forward and show her support at this point in time a sorry would mean much more than nothing. Surely that’s easy to understand?

Scarletto- thanks for your support. Yes! We could of done with more support from the lady driver as this was a stressful experience there was nothing to miss understand.

We are not careless at all. Ask yourself what would you all do if your puppy? It clearly says we asked the driver to stay there at this point in time it was important to get the puppy inside and comfortable surely this is not careless? If we were careless why do we want someone to come forward?

Bluefeet- we are on the same planet if you didn’t realise. We are very shocked at some of your support i just ask myself how can people be so heartless? We have paid the vet bill thank you! What we would like is the careless driver to come forward.. Not sure what you mean when you said children? Justin and Amy are 29 and 30...

Lara b- shameless... What for asking for support what’s so wrong in that?
Thank you for your carless, heartless and judgemental comments. A VOTER- the dog was on the lead and my report clearly says! I think you need to re read this article. How could you possibly continue your journey if she’s hit a dog? I understand accidents happen but she’s failed to stop as the police have told us this is an offence. Goodlife- yes we are very happy that the puppy is still alive. Yes we have invested in a stronger lead for the puppy. More to the point she slipped her lead so surly this wouldn’t make a difference? We are not begging for money as the bet bill. Has been paid and it was paid the day we collected the puppy from the vets, more to the point the lady driver didn’t stop we could of done more to support this! Keeping the dog under control as you said, but it’s a puppy that’s not put of control at all very judgemental! Richhoops - it’s like hitting a child yes if it was a child would she of stopped? Dave- like it clearly says the dog slipped the lead and we have invested in a stronger lead. We are not blaming we are saying please could the heartless driver come forward and show her support at this point in time a sorry would mean much more than nothing. Surely that’s easy to understand? Scarletto- thanks for your support. Yes! We could of done with more support from the lady driver as this was a stressful experience there was nothing to miss understand. We are not careless at all. Ask yourself what would you all do if your puppy? It clearly says we asked the driver to stay there at this point in time it was important to get the puppy inside and comfortable surely this is not careless? If we were careless why do we want someone to come forward? Bluefeet- we are on the same planet if you didn’t realise. We are very shocked at some of your support i just ask myself how can people be so heartless? We have paid the vet bill thank you! What we would like is the careless driver to come forward.. Not sure what you mean when you said children? Justin and Amy are 29 and 30... Lara b- shameless... What for asking for support what’s so wrong in that? Carly Hall
  • Score: -28

3:27pm Thu 8 May 14

A VOTER says...

Carly Hall wrote:
Thank you for your careless, heartless and judgemental comments. A VOTER- the dog was on the lead and my report clearly says! I think you need to re read this article. How could you possibly continue your journey if she’s hit a dog? I understand accidents happen but she’s failed to stop as the police have told us this is an offence.
Had the dog not slipped its lead, then the dog would have been ‘on’ it’s lead. We can only assume that you hadn't secured the lead properly, otherwise the dog wouldn't have got free.
The report very clearly states that the driver ‘did’ stop, as required by law, and you even spoke to her.
Being ‘judgemental’ is what every reader of this report has done, and have judged your case accordingly, this time in favour of the innocent female driver. I am neither careless nor heartless. The carelessness lies fully with you and your lack of control over your dog. Indeed, you have now stated that you have invested in a stronger lead… I wonder why, because you then state that the stronger lead wouldn't have made any difference. Then maybe your dog needs a harness which would be almost impossible to escape from.

There is nothing to be gained by hunting down a driver who did stop and did speak to you, unless you are seeking retribution for your own carelessness and mishandling of your dog.

Given the facts as stated, the blame for the accident lays firmly with you, not the driver.
[quote][bold] Carly Hall [/bold] wrote: Thank you for your careless, heartless and judgemental comments. A VOTER- the dog was on the lead and my report clearly says! I think you need to re read this article. How could you possibly continue your journey if she’s hit a dog? I understand accidents happen but she’s failed to stop as the police have told us this is an offence. [/quote] Had the dog not slipped its lead, then the dog would have been ‘on’ it’s lead. We can only assume that you hadn't secured the lead properly, otherwise the dog wouldn't have got free. The report very clearly states that the driver ‘did’ stop, as required by law, and you even spoke to her. Being ‘judgemental’ is what every reader of this report has done, and have judged your case accordingly, this time in favour of the innocent female driver. I am neither careless nor heartless. The carelessness lies fully with you and your lack of control over your dog. Indeed, you have now stated that you have invested in a stronger lead… I wonder why, because you then state that the stronger lead wouldn't have made any difference. Then maybe your dog needs a harness which would be almost impossible to escape from. There is nothing to be gained by hunting down a driver who did stop and did speak to you, unless you are seeking retribution for your own carelessness and mishandling of your dog. Given the facts as stated, the blame for the accident lays firmly with you, not the driver. A VOTER
  • Score: 24

3:35pm Thu 8 May 14

A VOTER says...

Carly Hall wrote:
surely this is not careless? If we were careless why do we want someone to come forward?
So what you are saying is that ‘you’ are not careless, but the driver was, and you therefore want to place the blame squarely on her, even though she stopped and spoke to you.
[quote][bold] Carly Hall [/bold] wrote: surely this is not careless? If we were careless why do we want someone to come forward? [/quote] So what you are saying is that ‘you’ are not careless, but the driver was, and you therefore want to place the blame squarely on her, even though she stopped and spoke to you. A VOTER
  • Score: 17

4:17pm Thu 8 May 14

richhoops says...

Carly Hall wrote:
Thank you for your carless, heartless and judgemental comments. A VOTER- the dog was on the lead and my report clearly says! I think you need to re read this article. How could you possibly continue your journey if she’s hit a dog? I understand accidents happen but she’s failed to stop as the police have told us this is an offence.

Goodlife- yes we are very happy that the puppy is still alive. Yes we have invested in a stronger lead for the puppy. More to the point she slipped her lead so surly this wouldn’t make a difference? We are not begging for money as the bet bill. Has been paid and it was paid the day we collected the puppy from the vets, more to the point the lady driver didn’t stop we could of done more to support this! Keeping the dog under control as you said, but it’s a puppy that’s not put of control at all very judgemental!

Richhoops - it’s like hitting a child yes if it was a child would she of stopped?

Dave- like it clearly says the dog slipped the lead and we have invested in a stronger lead. We are not blaming we are saying please could the heartless driver come forward and show her support at this point in time a sorry would mean much more than nothing. Surely that’s easy to understand?

Scarletto- thanks for your support. Yes! We could of done with more support from the lady driver as this was a stressful experience there was nothing to miss understand.

We are not careless at all. Ask yourself what would you all do if your puppy? It clearly says we asked the driver to stay there at this point in time it was important to get the puppy inside and comfortable surely this is not careless? If we were careless why do we want someone to come forward?

Bluefeet- we are on the same planet if you didn’t realise. We are very shocked at some of your support i just ask myself how can people be so heartless? We have paid the vet bill thank you! What we would like is the careless driver to come forward.. Not sure what you mean when you said children? Justin and Amy are 29 and 30...

Lara b- shameless... What for asking for support what’s so wrong in that?
Carly Hall wrote:
Richhoops - it’s like hitting a child yes if it was a child would she of stopped?

As she did stop for hitting a dog I imagine she would have but I'm not her.

Fundamentally disagree with the analogy though. There is absolutely no comparison between hitting a dog and running over a child.
[quote][p][bold]Carly Hall[/bold] wrote: Thank you for your carless, heartless and judgemental comments. A VOTER- the dog was on the lead and my report clearly says! I think you need to re read this article. How could you possibly continue your journey if she’s hit a dog? I understand accidents happen but she’s failed to stop as the police have told us this is an offence. Goodlife- yes we are very happy that the puppy is still alive. Yes we have invested in a stronger lead for the puppy. More to the point she slipped her lead so surly this wouldn’t make a difference? We are not begging for money as the bet bill. Has been paid and it was paid the day we collected the puppy from the vets, more to the point the lady driver didn’t stop we could of done more to support this! Keeping the dog under control as you said, but it’s a puppy that’s not put of control at all very judgemental! Richhoops - it’s like hitting a child yes if it was a child would she of stopped? Dave- like it clearly says the dog slipped the lead and we have invested in a stronger lead. We are not blaming we are saying please could the heartless driver come forward and show her support at this point in time a sorry would mean much more than nothing. Surely that’s easy to understand? Scarletto- thanks for your support. Yes! We could of done with more support from the lady driver as this was a stressful experience there was nothing to miss understand. We are not careless at all. Ask yourself what would you all do if your puppy? It clearly says we asked the driver to stay there at this point in time it was important to get the puppy inside and comfortable surely this is not careless? If we were careless why do we want someone to come forward? Bluefeet- we are on the same planet if you didn’t realise. We are very shocked at some of your support i just ask myself how can people be so heartless? We have paid the vet bill thank you! What we would like is the careless driver to come forward.. Not sure what you mean when you said children? Justin and Amy are 29 and 30... Lara b- shameless... What for asking for support what’s so wrong in that?[/p][/quote]Carly Hall wrote: Richhoops - it’s like hitting a child yes if it was a child would she of stopped? As she did stop for hitting a dog I imagine she would have but I'm not her. Fundamentally disagree with the analogy though. There is absolutely no comparison between hitting a dog and running over a child. richhoops
  • Score: 13

8:20pm Thu 8 May 14

buser says...

Dear Carly,
As a life long dog owner, I wonder perhaps it is time to look at this incident objectively. You were lucky! Without being judgemental and for whatever reason, your 8 month old dog was out of control on the public highway. This was caused, according to the report, by the afore said 8 month old puppy not being securely tethered to a harness or collar which she couldn't slip. It is very unfortunate that she did slip the collar, she ran into the road and was injured. Fortunately the dog survived, the motorist did stop although she didn't exchange details. From the report, you moved away from the situation and the motorist continued on her way although you requested that she should wait, but she did actually stop.
Now, personally, I have always taken my dogs to a professional trainer/ dog training classes as soon as they completed their vaccinations. The trainers have always recommended harnesses for the dogs and they have been trained to walk along a busy road. We can learn from our mistakes and thus avoid a repeat of an unhappy experience, as I have said in my previous posts. Perhaps, rather than further upsetting yourself it is time to say that this was an unfortunate incident, and count your blessings, the dog has survived! Next, a serious road accident involving human injury/ vehicle damage etc was avoided. Was this really was a news worthy event and did you really want this publicity? Perhaps it is time to invest in a dog harness and a few training classes, enjoy your puppy and family and move on.
Dear Carly, As a life long dog owner, I wonder perhaps it is time to look at this incident objectively. You were lucky! Without being judgemental and for whatever reason, your 8 month old dog was out of control on the public highway. This was caused, according to the report, by the afore said 8 month old puppy not being securely tethered to a harness or collar which she couldn't slip. It is very unfortunate that she did slip the collar, she ran into the road and was injured. Fortunately the dog survived, the motorist did stop although she didn't exchange details. From the report, you moved away from the situation and the motorist continued on her way although you requested that she should wait, but she did actually stop. Now, personally, I have always taken my dogs to a professional trainer/ dog training classes as soon as they completed their vaccinations. The trainers have always recommended harnesses for the dogs and they have been trained to walk along a busy road. We can learn from our mistakes and thus avoid a repeat of an unhappy experience, as I have said in my previous posts. Perhaps, rather than further upsetting yourself it is time to say that this was an unfortunate incident, and count your blessings, the dog has survived! Next, a serious road accident involving human injury/ vehicle damage etc was avoided. Was this really was a news worthy event and did you really want this publicity? Perhaps it is time to invest in a dog harness and a few training classes, enjoy your puppy and family and move on. buser
  • Score: 11

8:29pm Thu 8 May 14

Anna Smith says...

A couple of months ago I was driving home from a night shift in Aylesbury when a very large dog (I am not sure what breed) bounded across the road in front of me. I performed an emergency stop....the first I have ever had to make in over 25 years of driving. I narrowly missed the animal and was shaken up for the rest of my journey home. The owner was in a group of 4 or 5 adults and they made no attempt to signal an apology to me. Had I hit the dog I would of course have stopped. However, I would not have known that the law is that I would have to report the incident to the police. I would have been furious if the owner had expected ME to pay out towards any vet's bills! Similarly, I would have been angry if I'd lost my no claims bonus due to any damage been done to my car.
It is a shame that the dog in this article was injured, but to suggest that the driver should contribute any money is simply laughable. The driver stopped and checked the dog was alive. I doubt very much that she knew she should report the accident.
A couple of months ago I was driving home from a night shift in Aylesbury when a very large dog (I am not sure what breed) bounded across the road in front of me. I performed an emergency stop....the first I have ever had to make in over 25 years of driving. I narrowly missed the animal and was shaken up for the rest of my journey home. The owner was in a group of 4 or 5 adults and they made no attempt to signal an apology to me. Had I hit the dog I would of course have stopped. However, I would not have known that the law is that I would have to report the incident to the police. I would have been furious if the owner had expected ME to pay out towards any vet's bills! Similarly, I would have been angry if I'd lost my no claims bonus due to any damage been done to my car. It is a shame that the dog in this article was injured, but to suggest that the driver should contribute any money is simply laughable. The driver stopped and checked the dog was alive. I doubt very much that she knew she should report the accident. Anna Smith
  • Score: 12

9:47pm Thu 8 May 14

bluefeet says...

I'm a touch confused about the comments from Carly Hall. These feckless people were allegedly not seeking any financial compensation from the driver, they were just appealing for "support"? In what sense? Idiots. If their dog had caused any damage to the car or driver, they would be liable. What "support" was it they want then if not money grubbing? I think you will find that if the driver does decide to come forward, she is the one who will be entitled to compensation so if I were this family, I would pray that she does not take this further. However, shame on you BFP - I can't help feeling that you have set these people up for this by publishing this non-story.
I'm a touch confused about the comments from Carly Hall. These feckless people were allegedly not seeking any financial compensation from the driver, they were just appealing for "support"? In what sense? Idiots. If their dog had caused any damage to the car or driver, they would be liable. What "support" was it they want then if not money grubbing? I think you will find that if the driver does decide to come forward, she is the one who will be entitled to compensation so if I were this family, I would pray that she does not take this further. However, shame on you BFP - I can't help feeling that you have set these people up for this by publishing this non-story. bluefeet
  • Score: 13

7:52am Fri 9 May 14

mylar2000 says...

Totally agree with bluefeet, YOU broke the law, You caused this accident, YOU are negligent, YOU went running to the paper and YOU want an apology. Idiots. If I was this women I would be checking my car looking for the slightest blemish that could of been caused by YOUR out of control dog and taking you through the civil courts. Like Bluefeet says, pray that she doesn't because you'll have just more than your vet bills to fork out for.
Totally agree with bluefeet, YOU broke the law, You caused this accident, YOU are negligent, YOU went running to the paper and YOU want an apology. Idiots. If I was this women I would be checking my car looking for the slightest blemish that could of been caused by YOUR out of control dog and taking you through the civil courts. Like Bluefeet says, pray that she doesn't because you'll have just more than your vet bills to fork out for. mylar2000
  • Score: 12

6:33pm Fri 9 May 14

Lambs lettuce says...

The dog was not on a lead!
Would they have gone to the papers if it had bit someone?
I hope they have more control over their children and don't blame everyone else for any behaviour issues they may have in the future.
As for being pregnant well it is a natural condition not an illness and most woman deal with life and all it brings whilst in that state.
In the grand scheme of things this should be put down to one of life's lessons
Have your dog on a well fitted lead and collar and don't just think about yourselves . The car driver is not a demon, Stuff happens!
The dog was not on a lead! Would they have gone to the papers if it had bit someone? I hope they have more control over their children and don't blame everyone else for any behaviour issues they may have in the future. As for being pregnant well it is a natural condition not an illness and most woman deal with life and all it brings whilst in that state. In the grand scheme of things this should be put down to one of life's lessons Have your dog on a well fitted lead and collar and don't just think about yourselves . The car driver is not a demon, Stuff happens! Lambs lettuce
  • Score: 10

9:50pm Fri 9 May 14

Gaulnut says...

"Carly Hall wrote:
Thank you for your carless, heartless and judgemental comments."

Clearly the attempt at a guilt trip fell on deaf ears, and rightly so.
"Carly Hall wrote: Thank you for your carless, heartless and judgemental comments." Clearly the attempt at a guilt trip fell on deaf ears, and rightly so. Gaulnut
  • Score: 10

10:02am Sat 10 May 14

Carly Hall says...

You lot are all judgemental. And rude. Im not beating myself up about this because i no my dog comes from an amazing family. The bill has been paid so for all of you thinking its still about the money i think you need to read my last comment. And fully understand it before your judgemental side kicks in. Thanks for the comments still no support so i dont want any comments back. We are happy that the puppy is ok. But all of my family will not let this go.
Thanks! And its and 8year old puppy thens never bitten and your comments are pointless!
You lot are all judgemental. And rude. Im not beating myself up about this because i no my dog comes from an amazing family. The bill has been paid so for all of you thinking its still about the money i think you need to read my last comment. And fully understand it before your judgemental side kicks in. Thanks for the comments still no support so i dont want any comments back. We are happy that the puppy is ok. But all of my family will not let this go. Thanks! And its and 8year old puppy thens never bitten and your comments are pointless! Carly Hall
  • Score: -14

11:47am Sat 10 May 14

A VOTER says...

Carly Hall wrote:
You lot are all judgemental. And rude. Im not beating myself up about this because i no my dog comes from an amazing family. The bill has been paid so for all of you thinking its still about the money i think you need to read my last comment. And fully understand it before your judgemental side kicks in. Thanks for the comments still no support so i dont want any comments back. We are happy that the puppy is ok. But all of my family will not let this go.
Thanks! And its and 8year old puppy thens never bitten and your comments are pointless!
Us lot have all read the story, and most have arrived at similar conclusions. That's all.
You state that your family will not let this go. So just what is it that your family are aiming to achieve?

And at what age does your 8 year old puppy cease to be a puppy?
[quote][p][bold]Carly Hall[/bold] wrote: You lot are all judgemental. And rude. Im not beating myself up about this because i no my dog comes from an amazing family. The bill has been paid so for all of you thinking its still about the money i think you need to read my last comment. And fully understand it before your judgemental side kicks in. Thanks for the comments still no support so i dont want any comments back. We are happy that the puppy is ok. But all of my family will not let this go. Thanks! And its and 8year old puppy thens never bitten and your comments are pointless![/p][/quote]Us lot have all read the story, and most have arrived at similar conclusions. That's all. You state that your family will not let this go. So just what is it that your family are aiming to achieve? And at what age does your 8 year old puppy cease to be a puppy? A VOTER
  • Score: 11

10:27pm Sat 10 May 14

Carly Hall says...

8month old puppy sorry spelling error now leave your comments at the door thanks!
8month old puppy sorry spelling error now leave your comments at the door thanks! Carly Hall
  • Score: -9

8:08am Sun 11 May 14

Gaulnut says...

Carly Hall wrote:
8month old puppy sorry spelling error now leave your comments at the door thanks!
Or rather, this public forum on the internet.

It is quite clear you and your family are unrepentant, I can only hope the passage of time will help you to understand the overwhelming response in favour of the driver that you have received here, although I'm not going to be holding my breath.
[quote][p][bold]Carly Hall[/bold] wrote: 8month old puppy sorry spelling error now leave your comments at the door thanks![/p][/quote]Or rather, this public forum on the internet. It is quite clear you and your family are unrepentant, I can only hope the passage of time will help you to understand the overwhelming response in favour of the driver that you have received here, although I'm not going to be holding my breath. Gaulnut
  • Score: 6

12:19pm Sun 11 May 14

buser says...

Carly Hall wrote:
8month old puppy sorry spelling error now leave your comments at the door thanks!
We can, and do, all make errors and your previous angry post contains rather more than most! Most of us are big enough to admit our errors, including errors of judgement, apologise as Gaulnut suggests, and move on. Lots of us have endured similar situations with a less happy outcome.

Personally, I would rather see our police spending their valuable time sorting major incidents such as the dreadful hit and run in the press today where a young child has been killed, rather than being involved in the minor incident which you are pursuing. Of course, each to their own.
[quote][p][bold]Carly Hall[/bold] wrote: 8month old puppy sorry spelling error now leave your comments at the door thanks![/p][/quote]We can, and do, all make errors and your previous angry post contains rather more than most! Most of us are big enough to admit our errors, including errors of judgement, apologise as Gaulnut suggests, and move on. Lots of us have endured similar situations with a less happy outcome. Personally, I would rather see our police spending their valuable time sorting major incidents such as the dreadful hit and run in the press today where a young child has been killed, rather than being involved in the minor incident which you are pursuing. Of course, each to their own. buser
  • Score: 5

12:19pm Sun 11 May 14

buser says...

Carly Hall wrote:
8month old puppy sorry spelling error now leave your comments at the door thanks!
We can, and do, all make errors and your previous angry post contains rather more than most! Most of us are big enough to admit our errors, including errors of judgement, apologise as Gaulnut suggests, and move on. Lots of us have endured similar situations with a less happy outcome.

Personally, I would rather see our police spending their valuable time sorting major incidents such as the dreadful hit and run in the press today where a young child has been killed, rather than being involved in the minor incident which you are pursuing. Of course, each to their own.
[quote][p][bold]Carly Hall[/bold] wrote: 8month old puppy sorry spelling error now leave your comments at the door thanks![/p][/quote]We can, and do, all make errors and your previous angry post contains rather more than most! Most of us are big enough to admit our errors, including errors of judgement, apologise as Gaulnut suggests, and move on. Lots of us have endured similar situations with a less happy outcome. Personally, I would rather see our police spending their valuable time sorting major incidents such as the dreadful hit and run in the press today where a young child has been killed, rather than being involved in the minor incident which you are pursuing. Of course, each to their own. buser
  • Score: 5

4:10pm Sun 11 May 14

A VOTER says...

Carly Hall wrote:
8month old puppy sorry spelling error now leave your comments at the door thanks!
You previously stated that your family will not let this go.
So just what is it that your family are aiming to achieve by dragging this sorry story out?
[quote][p][bold]Carly Hall[/bold] wrote: 8month old puppy sorry spelling error now leave your comments at the door thanks![/p][/quote]You previously stated that your family will not let this go. So just what is it that your family are aiming to achieve by dragging this sorry story out? A VOTER
  • Score: 8

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