Outcry over new bright street lights in Beaconsfield

Bucks Free Press: Outcry over new bright street lights Outcry over new bright street lights

CONCERNS have been raised over new LED street lights which have been erected in Beaconsfield.

The new fixtures which are brighter than the former street lights have concerned one resident who believes there are serious health risks which have not yet been researched.

Malcolm Parr, who lives in Knotty Green, said: “Once again our local authority has blindly followed fashion without consultation or trial and installed LED lights despite a national outcry that they are bad for your health.

“Studies have proven that LED lights disrupt sleep by suppressing the body’s production of melatonin, a hormone which governs our sleep patterns.

“The light given off by these lights is overwhelmingly blue which suppresses our biological clock, resulting in lower-quality sleep.”

He added: “No consultation was made. Nothing has been done to ask residents what they think. They were just put up one day.”

It has also been reported some councils who have installed these lights have been forced to dim them after complaints were received.

Transport for Buckinghamshire spokesman, Dan Elworthy, said: “The countywide LED street light replacement programme started in autumn 2013, following the Buckinghamshire County Council Business Investment Group (BIG) approving a three year LED (Light Emitting Diode) lighting replacement strategy.

“The new LED lanterns last approximately three times longer than regular lamps, meaning that around 16,000 individual lamp changes will be saved across the county over the approximate 15 year life of the new lanterns.

“This means staff time, journey time, equipment, vehicle wear and tear and all the costs associated with these will be saved. In addition to this, LED lights are more environmentally friendly, with the project set to save approximately 495 metric tonnes of carbon.

“The lighting is already dimmed although the process of dimming is almost imperceptible to the naked eye. “They dim to 70% of their total light output between 22:00 and 06:00 and, in some areas, are dimmed even further to 50% of their total light output between 23:00 and 05:00. “Where further manipulation of light is required, we will be installing shields to prevent the light being as visible to those affected.”

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5:12pm Sun 11 May 14

mother henpeck says...

if it helps reduce crime and muggins im all for it
if it helps reduce crime and muggins im all for it mother henpeck
  • Score: 8

7:38pm Sun 11 May 14

Ivan Idea says...

These new LED lights are great!
I live in the centre of High Wycombe and we've had them for about a year. The street is much brighter and I feel much safer at night. We no longer need a security light at the front of the house.
Initially the bright light affected my sleep but a blackout blind helped with that.
These new LED lights are great! I live in the centre of High Wycombe and we've had them for about a year. The street is much brighter and I feel much safer at night. We no longer need a security light at the front of the house. Initially the bright light affected my sleep but a blackout blind helped with that. Ivan Idea
  • Score: 5

7:52pm Sun 11 May 14

erm says...

I think they are great lights.
I think they are great lights. erm
  • Score: 6

8:03pm Sun 11 May 14

abucks says...

They are way too bright for the quiet streets here that do not need bright lights all night, just hoping it takes them a long time to get round to our particular street.
They are way too bright for the quiet streets here that do not need bright lights all night, just hoping it takes them a long time to get round to our particular street. abucks
  • Score: -2

10:46pm Sun 11 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

mother henpeck wrote:
if it helps reduce crime and muggins im all for it
Muggins is entitled to live too you know.
[quote][p][bold]mother henpeck[/bold] wrote: if it helps reduce crime and muggins im all for it[/p][/quote]Muggins is entitled to live too you know. Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 8

10:55pm Sun 11 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

I think the orange lights were ugly - these ones are like moonlight in colour and night photographs look much more natural in them.

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com/watch?v=PYhG9XvL
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I think the orange lights were ugly - these ones are like moonlight in colour and night photographs look much more natural in them. https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=PYhG9XvL o2M https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=3rlBBU2A 5Yg Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 5

10:58pm Sun 11 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

I remember that the orange ones were unpopular when they were introduced many years ago.
I remember that the orange ones were unpopular when they were introduced many years ago. Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 8

12:05am Mon 12 May 14

J B Blackett says...

Undercover Euro Yob wrote:
mother henpeck wrote:
if it helps reduce crime and muggins im all for it
Muggins is entitled to live too you know.
Yes , it's muggins turn this time.
[quote][p][bold]Undercover Euro Yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mother henpeck[/bold] wrote: if it helps reduce crime and muggins im all for it[/p][/quote]Muggins is entitled to live too you know.[/p][/quote]Yes , it's muggins turn this time. J B Blackett
  • Score: 5

9:49am Mon 12 May 14

Edgar Brooks says...

Have they stopped making heavy, lined curtains, these days, then?
Have they stopped making heavy, lined curtains, these days, then? Edgar Brooks
  • Score: 4

10:32am Mon 12 May 14

jayeatman says...

Maybe Malcolm Parr should draw his curtains at night.
Maybe Malcolm Parr should draw his curtains at night. jayeatman
  • Score: 5

12:13pm Mon 12 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...


“Studies have proven that LED lights disrupt sleep by suppressing the body’s production of melatonin, a hormone which governs our sleep patterns.
“The light given off by these lights is overwhelmingly blue which suppresses our biological clock, resulting in lower-quality sleep.”

This sounds superficially plausible and knowledgeable but dodgy on further consideration - a bit like the facts used by Bucks County Council Education Department and County Councilors to ‘explain’ educational selection.

Please explain this a little further Mr Parr - particularly:
Studies - who by? Also:

‘The light … is overwhelmingly blue’

And: ‘lower-quality sleep.”’
[italic][bold] [/bold] [/italic] [italic] “Studies have proven that LED lights disrupt sleep by suppressing the body’s production of melatonin, a hormone which governs our sleep patterns. “The light given off by these lights is overwhelmingly blue which suppresses our biological clock, resulting in lower-quality sleep.” [/italic] This sounds superficially plausible and knowledgeable but dodgy on further consideration - a bit like the facts used by Bucks County Council Education Department and County Councilors to ‘explain’ educational selection. Please explain this a little further Mr Parr - particularly: [italic] Studies [/italic] - who by? Also: [italic] ‘The light … is overwhelmingly blue’ [/italic] And: [italic] ‘lower-quality sleep.”’ [/italic] Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 1

12:23pm Mon 12 May 14

jayeatman says...

Aye, far be it for the BFP reporter to actually check the bo11ocks he is regurgitating. And does one crank really make an 'outcry'? I suppose it just about makes a headline.
Aye, far be it for the BFP reporter to actually check the bo11ocks he is regurgitating. And does one crank really make an 'outcry'? I suppose it just about makes a headline. jayeatman
  • Score: 5

4:10pm Mon 12 May 14

Emma179 says...

They could do with being more directional. They shine through my bedroom window on the A40 and definitely affect my sleep even with heavy curtains. They're good for the roads, but don't need to light up our houses too!
They could do with being more directional. They shine through my bedroom window on the A40 and definitely affect my sleep even with heavy curtains. They're good for the roads, but don't need to light up our houses too! Emma179
  • Score: 1

6:31pm Mon 12 May 14

displayed says...

You wanna live in a close of 11 ouses, we had 2 street lights, now they turned one of em off, I ask you......
There aving a giraffe!
You wanna live in a close of 11 ouses, we had 2 street lights, now they turned one of em off, I ask you...... There aving a giraffe! displayed
  • Score: 2

7:58pm Mon 12 May 14

wicksandrea says...

Fine for London and big cities, but do we know if these brighter lights worsen the light pollution that makes it difficult to see the night sky? I think the council should have considered (& hopefully did) light pollution before making sweeping changes.
Fine for London and big cities, but do we know if these brighter lights worsen the light pollution that makes it difficult to see the night sky? I think the council should have considered (& hopefully did) light pollution before making sweeping changes. wicksandrea
  • Score: 1

10:35pm Mon 12 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

wicksandrea wrote:
Fine for London and big cities, but do we know if these brighter lights worsen the light pollution that makes it difficult to see the night sky? I think the council should have considered (& hopefully did) light pollution before making sweeping changes.
Dodgy science and every other reason to disapprove of the new lighting has been brought forward and BFO readers have made reasonable replies so finally … ‘light pollution’.

Transport for Bucks does not tell us of the brightness of the new lights in comparison with the old ones, however it does say:

a three year LED lighting replacement strategy which will mainly be implemented across the A & B road network … The programme to replace street lights in residential areas across the county …

(See: http://www.transport
forbucks.net/Roadwor
ks-Centre/Street-Lig
hting-Works/Street-l
ighting-LED-replacem
ent-programme.aspx)

I deeply resent being put in a position where I am saying something on behalf of Bucks County Council but I would ask how many A and B roads and residential areas are not already adversely affected by light pollution - a phenomenon largely of interest to astronomers who view the sky from isolated high dark places rather than busy roads in the SE and the English Midlands?

(The TfB website says: ‘For more information call: 0845 2302882 or email: tfb@buckscc.gov.uk
)
[quote][p][bold]wicksandrea[/bold] wrote: Fine for London and big cities, but do we know if these brighter lights worsen the light pollution that makes it difficult to see the night sky? I think the council should have considered (& hopefully did) light pollution before making sweeping changes.[/p][/quote]Dodgy science and every other reason to disapprove of the new lighting has been brought forward and BFO readers have made reasonable replies so finally … ‘light pollution’. Transport for Bucks does not tell us of the brightness of the new lights in comparison with the old ones, however it does say: [italic] a three year LED lighting replacement strategy which will mainly be implemented across the A & B road network … The programme to replace street lights in residential areas across the county … [/italic] (See: http://www.transport forbucks.net/Roadwor ks-Centre/Street-Lig hting-Works/Street-l ighting-LED-replacem ent-programme.aspx) I deeply resent being put in a position where I am saying something on behalf of Bucks County Council but I would ask how many A and B roads and residential areas are not already adversely affected by light pollution - a phenomenon largely of interest to astronomers who view the sky from isolated high dark places rather than busy roads in the SE and the English Midlands? (The TfB website says: ‘For more information call: 0845 2302882 or email: tfb@buckscc.gov.uk ) Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: -6

2:18pm Tue 13 May 14

Her Next Door says...

People love to have something to moan about don't they. They moan when the lights are switched off and they moan when they are replaced.
Try buying some thicker curtains.
People love to have something to moan about don't they. They moan when the lights are switched off and they moan when they are replaced. Try buying some thicker curtains. Her Next Door
  • Score: 2

5:22pm Tue 13 May 14

russell23 says...

There's an increasing amount of very serious research published on this area highlighting the risk of circadian rhythms being interrupted by the melatonin suppression these lights can cause. Most the research centres on the way that the LEDs being selected for use in street lighting emit a lot of light in the blue spectrum end and the way this suppresses melatonin production.
Check out this study as just one example: Limiting the impact of light pollution on human health, environment and stellar visibility. http://www.ncbi.nlm.
nih.gov/pubmed/21745
709

As for thicker curtains, you'd be thick not to.
There's an increasing amount of very serious research published on this area highlighting the risk of circadian rhythms being interrupted by the melatonin suppression these lights can cause. Most the research centres on the way that the LEDs being selected for use in street lighting emit a lot of light in the blue spectrum end and the way this suppresses melatonin production. Check out this study as just one example: Limiting the impact of light pollution on human health, environment and stellar visibility. http://www.ncbi.nlm. nih.gov/pubmed/21745 709 As for thicker curtains, you'd be thick not to. russell23
  • Score: 0

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