Police go to the Wye Valley School in Bourne End after egg-throwing

Teachers call police after students throw eggs outside school

Teachers call police after students throw eggs outside school

First published in News Bucks Free Press: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

TEACHERS called police after Year 11 students started throwing eggs outside their school following a surprise leavers’ assembly.

Officers warned The Wye Valley School students and moved them on but some Year 11s claim they were unfairly treated.

The incident occurred after the assembly for school leavers on Thursday, May 8.

The police were forced to return the following day as students again caused trouble after they were refused entry to the building.

It was a sour end to what should have been a happy day for the school as it was the last day that all the year 11s would be together, even though some would be due back for extra lessons.

The school threw a party for the leavers on Thursday in a special assembly, providing them with pizzas and soft drinks in a two-hour celebration.

This came as a surprise to some students who had been expecting their farewell party the following day.

Some branded the school’s actions and police intervention as heavy handed.

One anonymous student contacted the Bucks Free Press to say they had been treated disrespectfully and accused the school of bringing forward the leavers’ assembly by 24 hours to get rid of them.

The student said: “I would like you to report on the absolute disrespect that The Wye Valley School has subjected Year 11 students to.

“We got into the gym and there was all our leavers hoodies laid out and pizza boxes, to soften the blow if you like.

“Anyway we were then subjected to a rushed, half-hearted leavers assembly, which usually takes place today (Friday, May 9) as with thousands of schools nationwide.

“After this assembly we were told that “today is your last day” with no warning or grounds upon to make the decision. We were then marched out the back of the gymnasium and down the alley parallel to the school.

“We were then told to leave and return for study on Monday. We were not allowed back on the school premises.”

But head Andrea Jacobson denied the allegations.

She said: “The Wye Valley School held a celebration event for Y11 on Thursday. This event was planned by the school but, as many other schools do with Year 11, the students didn’t know the date of when this would take place.

“It lasted two hours during which the students had a pizza lunch, soft drinks, a Celebration Assembly showing photographs of their school years to music, an opportunity to sign each other’s shirts and collected their Y11 ‘hoodies’. “There was a lovely atmosphere where many kind words were said by staff and students and they enjoyed the occasion.”

She added: “The police arrived when the students left school and helped keep the atmosphere calm and positive as the students said their ‘goodbyes’ to each other.”

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9:31am Mon 26 May 14

Wycombe-buddy says...

Ramsay did the exact same with students a few years back, we were in a maths lesson and half way through the period 1 we were told
It was our last day and we had an assembly, we rushed to get our shirts signed and went to assembly, they then marched us out and told us we were not allowed back it as it would be tresspassing!, I really dont understand why schools do this, a few others have had a "surprise leavers" !
Ramsay did the exact same with students a few years back, we were in a maths lesson and half way through the period 1 we were told It was our last day and we had an assembly, we rushed to get our shirts signed and went to assembly, they then marched us out and told us we were not allowed back it as it would be tresspassing!, I really dont understand why schools do this, a few others have had a "surprise leavers" ! Wycombe-buddy
  • Score: 25

9:32am Mon 26 May 14

Wycombe-buddy says...

We didnt even stay the full day, we were told to leave at 12!
We didnt even stay the full day, we were told to leave at 12! Wycombe-buddy
  • Score: 23

9:52am Mon 26 May 14

CatherineAB says...

One doesn't DEMAND respect - it has to be earned. And who is affluent enough to waste good food by throwing it around? Sounds like an almighty misunderstanding somewhere along the line. As in so many walks of life, a lack of GOOD communication causes so much trouble.
One doesn't DEMAND respect - it has to be earned. And who is affluent enough to waste good food by throwing it around? Sounds like an almighty misunderstanding somewhere along the line. As in so many walks of life, a lack of GOOD communication causes so much trouble. CatherineAB
  • Score: 11

10:09am Mon 26 May 14

mistamina says...

The child reporting to BFP is right, all students need and deserve respect.
This is not a Grammar School, these kids have been knocked back enough to last a life time. We must be sympathetic and understanding.
These are not Victorian times, Do not use draconian measures on our children.
The child reporting to BFP is right, all students need and deserve respect. This is not a Grammar School, these kids have been knocked back enough to last a life time. We must be sympathetic and understanding. These are not Victorian times, Do not use draconian measures on our children. mistamina
  • Score: -16

10:51am Mon 26 May 14

abucks says...

The schools move leaving days when they suspect that the pupils have pranks planned - this was obviously the case here and the pupils should blame the ones planning trouble not the staff. The staff gave them a proper last day with food. They will see each other again, the exams are not over by a long chalk and they will all attend for their results in August. The lack of respect is by pupils thinking they can act how they wish with no respect to staff and other pupils. Respect is not a right.
The schools move leaving days when they suspect that the pupils have pranks planned - this was obviously the case here and the pupils should blame the ones planning trouble not the staff. The staff gave them a proper last day with food. They will see each other again, the exams are not over by a long chalk and they will all attend for their results in August. The lack of respect is by pupils thinking they can act how they wish with no respect to staff and other pupils. Respect is not a right. abucks
  • Score: 22

11:24am Mon 26 May 14

Malc London says...

Sounds like the school made an effort for the pupils with a farewell party, food gifts and drinks.

Do any of them think to THANK the school for arranging this?
Sounds like the school made an effort for the pupils with a farewell party, food gifts and drinks. Do any of them think to THANK the school for arranging this? Malc London
  • Score: 16

12:22pm Mon 26 May 14

mistamina says...

Respect is the right of everyone.
We cannot treat and manipulate secondary modern school children like this. These are clever, young people, just because they did not get 121 does not mean they cannot see, hear and learn. They can smell manipulation same as us.
If we keep being blinkered on respecting, rights & communication for our children, eggs will be the least of our problem.
And as for calling the Police in! Talk about over-reaction and abrogating responsibility!
Respect is the right of everyone. We cannot treat and manipulate secondary modern school children like this. These are clever, young people, just because they did not get 121 does not mean they cannot see, hear and learn. They can smell manipulation same as us. If we keep being blinkered on respecting, rights & communication for our children, eggs will be the least of our problem. And as for calling the Police in! Talk about over-reaction and abrogating responsibility! mistamina
  • Score: -14

12:41pm Mon 26 May 14

stir up says...

You cannot run Wye valley as a grammar school it was in fact getting back on its feet and would have been OK if left to sort itself out. The students were treated in a very off hand manner and just pushed out, there is no defence for what was done to them. What an over reaction calling the police somebody at the school should apologise to the students.
You cannot run Wye valley as a grammar school it was in fact getting back on its feet and would have been OK if left to sort itself out. The students were treated in a very off hand manner and just pushed out, there is no defence for what was done to them. What an over reaction calling the police somebody at the school should apologise to the students. stir up
  • Score: -6

1:28pm Mon 26 May 14

abucks says...

neither of my children got 121 - I know all about ,clever young people, as my son is taking his GCSEs now and expected to get all As and Bs from a secondary school. This is nothing to do with manipulating young people it is about trying to avert the trouble that some of those pupils planned. the blame is at the feet of those pupils silly enough to think they would get away with it.
neither of my children got 121 - I know all about ,clever young people, as my son is taking his GCSEs now and expected to get all As and Bs from a secondary school. This is nothing to do with manipulating young people it is about trying to avert the trouble that some of those pupils planned. the blame is at the feet of those pupils silly enough to think they would get away with it. abucks
  • Score: 19

1:34pm Mon 26 May 14

mistamina says...

stir up wrote:
You cannot run Wye valley as a grammar school it was in fact getting back on its feet and would have been OK if left to sort itself out. The students were treated in a very off hand manner and just pushed out, there is no defence for what was done to them. What an over reaction calling the police somebody at the school should apologise to the students.
''You cannot run Wye valley as a grammar school''
This is correct. Fundamental difference being these are 80% of our children we marked as failed at 10 years age.
The failed kids will 'behave' and have 'respect' well but only to a limit. Any further injustice, or perceived injustice will bring a reaction. We all must collectively understand how much help Secondary Moderns need.
[quote][p][bold]stir up[/bold] wrote: You cannot run Wye valley as a grammar school it was in fact getting back on its feet and would have been OK if left to sort itself out. The students were treated in a very off hand manner and just pushed out, there is no defence for what was done to them. What an over reaction calling the police somebody at the school should apologise to the students.[/p][/quote]''You cannot run Wye valley as a grammar school'' This is correct. Fundamental difference being these are 80% of our children we marked as failed at 10 years age. The failed kids will 'behave' and have 'respect' well but only to a limit. Any further injustice, or perceived injustice will bring a reaction. We all must collectively understand how much help Secondary Moderns need. mistamina
  • Score: -13

1:42pm Mon 26 May 14

MYSTERYPOSTER says...

The way the school has treated the Year 11s this year was absolutely disgusting. What with the change of day and the lack of correct information and then the complete **** up over exam timetables which meant students were late to sit their exams I do not think they deserve the request several of the commenters have mentioned. If anything it is the students that should be given a formal apology for letting there students down. Most of our children have not had decent teachers to cover core subjects throughout there past 2 years of schooling. The school is a shambles. Try visiting it and then see what the students have had to put up with.
The way the school has treated the Year 11s this year was absolutely disgusting. What with the change of day and the lack of correct information and then the complete **** up over exam timetables which meant students were late to sit their exams I do not think they deserve the request several of the commenters have mentioned. If anything it is the students that should be given a formal apology for letting there students down. Most of our children have not had decent teachers to cover core subjects throughout there past 2 years of schooling. The school is a shambles. Try visiting it and then see what the students have had to put up with. MYSTERYPOSTER
  • Score: -1

1:47pm Mon 26 May 14

abucks says...

I think you are the one showing disrespect to these children Mistamina! To imply that these children cannot behave as well as children in a Grammar School because they were marked as failures at 11, insults the children in Secondary Schools.. My sons and their friends know how to behave properly and do so. Those that don't behave well are not doing so because they failed the 11+ they do so due to a variety of factors, often these factors start at home well before they even take the 11+. Excusing bad behaviour on the 11+ is not helping them to learn respect for themselves or others. Respect is not a right it is earned - everyone deserves to be treated fairly but that is not the same thing.
I think you are the one showing disrespect to these children Mistamina! To imply that these children cannot behave as well as children in a Grammar School because they were marked as failures at 11, insults the children in Secondary Schools.. My sons and their friends know how to behave properly and do so. Those that don't behave well are not doing so because they failed the 11+ they do so due to a variety of factors, often these factors start at home well before they even take the 11+. Excusing bad behaviour on the 11+ is not helping them to learn respect for themselves or others. Respect is not a right it is earned - everyone deserves to be treated fairly but that is not the same thing. abucks
  • Score: 20

1:52pm Mon 26 May 14

mistamina says...

abucks wrote:
neither of my children got 121 - I know all about ,clever young people, as my son is taking his GCSEs now and expected to get all As and Bs from a secondary school. This is nothing to do with manipulating young people it is about trying to avert the trouble that some of those pupils planned. the blame is at the feet of those pupils silly enough to think they would get away with it.
Genuine well done, you are a good parent. doing everything possibly to ensure your kids get the best they are capable of, whatever the system throws at you. Some of us have the capability to go the extra mile.
On 'avert the trouble' there is nothing mentioned in the article. I will respectfully take your word for it.
But calling the Police! Please let us all remember we are in leafy, rich, Bourne End not some demented, out of control, Inner London area.
Let us expect better.
[quote][p][bold]abucks[/bold] wrote: neither of my children got 121 - I know all about ,clever young people, as my son is taking his GCSEs now and expected to get all As and Bs from a secondary school. This is nothing to do with manipulating young people it is about trying to avert the trouble that some of those pupils planned. the blame is at the feet of those pupils silly enough to think they would get away with it.[/p][/quote]Genuine well done, you are a good parent. doing everything possibly to ensure your kids get the best they are capable of, whatever the system throws at you. Some of us have the capability to go the extra mile. On 'avert the trouble' there is nothing mentioned in the article. I will respectfully take your word for it. But calling the Police! Please let us all remember we are in leafy, rich, Bourne End not some demented, out of control, Inner London area. Let us expect better. mistamina
  • Score: -12

2:06pm Mon 26 May 14

Mr Totterdge Hill says...

Bunch of hooligans, bring back the cane!
Bunch of hooligans, bring back the cane! Mr Totterdge Hill
  • Score: 18

2:19pm Mon 26 May 14

mistamina says...

Mr Totterdge Hill wrote:
Bunch of hooligans, bring back the cane!
Where is your dungeon, Mr Totterdge Hill?
[quote][p][bold]Mr Totterdge Hill[/bold] wrote: Bunch of hooligans, bring back the cane![/p][/quote]Where is your dungeon, Mr Totterdge Hill? mistamina
  • Score: -19

4:47pm Mon 26 May 14

Themartian18 says...

Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police.

My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid).

My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day!

By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!!

Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly
Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police. My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid). My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day! By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!! Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly Themartian18
  • Score: 17

6:26pm Mon 26 May 14

stir up says...

In my opinion it is not the school that has let the year 11's down it is just about how they are treated by calling the police just about sums up attitude f for goodness sake somebody at the school apologies
In my opinion it is not the school that has let the year 11's down it is just about how they are treated by calling the police just about sums up attitude f for goodness sake somebody at the school apologies stir up
  • Score: -4

6:47pm Mon 26 May 14

Marlow Mum says...

Wow, what a surprise... So the new head and her cohorts kicked out / forced out (amongst others) excellent teachers and members of the senior leadership team - who could control the kids quite comfortably - and now they have to call the police any time the kids go a bit bonkers. And you know why they went bonkers? Well that's because they were unceremoniously escorted off school premises a day early without prior warning.
Have no doubt about it, this school is in utter chaos. If you live in catchment area, I suggest you do whatever you can to make sure your child does not get sent to this school.
Simply put, the 'nice' ladies of Wycombe High School have no idea how to manage kids who've not had a lifetime of ponies, pistes and privilege.
*facepalm*
Wow, what a surprise... So the new head and her cohorts kicked out / forced out (amongst others) excellent teachers and members of the senior leadership team - who could control the kids quite comfortably - and now they have to call the police any time the kids go a bit bonkers. And you know why they went bonkers? Well that's because they were unceremoniously escorted off school premises a day early without prior warning. Have no doubt about it, this school is in utter chaos. If you live in catchment area, I suggest you do whatever you can to make sure your child does not get sent to this school. Simply put, the 'nice' ladies of Wycombe High School have no idea how to manage kids who've not had a lifetime of ponies, pistes and privilege. *facepalm* Marlow Mum
  • Score: 18

7:01pm Mon 26 May 14

thetruth134 says...

Wye valley are not the only school, I remember ramsay students complaining about this a few years back,
The school forced them out a few days before they were suppose to
Finish.
Wye valley are not the only school, I remember ramsay students complaining about this a few years back, The school forced them out a few days before they were suppose to Finish. thetruth134
  • Score: 3

7:20pm Mon 26 May 14

fatgardener says...

I heard from my son that it is traditional for Year 11 students to plan pranks on the last official day at school. He said that local youngsters feel that Wye Valley School 'did the dirty on their pupils' by moving their last day to avoid the pranks. My son's school warned pupils that if anyone did anything then they would not be able to take exams at their school - so no-one did. Students were not even allowed to take photographs of themselves with teachers they like - how sad! About 40 children from his year will be going elsewhere - so they will have no other chance to celebrate/ say goodbye.

Why do they have the official last day at school before the exams? Surely this disrupts student's learning across the school? Why can't all schools set a day after the exams, to celebrate the end of Year 11?

Young people today have it much tougher than I ever did at school in the 1970s. They work extremely hard for their exams - at all the school in the Wycombe area - grammar and upper schools. Many schools have compulsory extra tuition - for example, some Year 11 pupils at Highcrest had to stay behind for extra lessons 4 days per week. Also, looking at the work pupils do for GCSE maths and science, I have compared it to my O level work, and it tends to be more extensive/ at greater depth. Further to this, students now take about 25 exams over May and June, when I only had one exam per subject.

These same young people will have to pay for their college education - when my generation got it for free (and also received a grant for living).
I heard from my son that it is traditional for Year 11 students to plan pranks on the last official day at school. He said that local youngsters feel that Wye Valley School 'did the dirty on their pupils' by moving their last day to avoid the pranks. My son's school warned pupils that if anyone did anything then they would not be able to take exams at their school - so no-one did. Students were not even allowed to take photographs of themselves with teachers they like - how sad! About 40 children from his year will be going elsewhere - so they will have no other chance to celebrate/ say goodbye. Why do they have the official last day at school before the exams? Surely this disrupts student's learning across the school? Why can't all schools set a day after the exams, to celebrate the end of Year 11? Young people today have it much tougher than I ever did at school in the 1970s. They work extremely hard for their exams - at all the school in the Wycombe area - grammar and upper schools. Many schools have compulsory extra tuition - for example, some Year 11 pupils at Highcrest had to stay behind for extra lessons 4 days per week. Also, looking at the work pupils do for GCSE maths and science, I have compared it to my O level work, and it tends to be more extensive/ at greater depth. Further to this, students now take about 25 exams over May and June, when I only had one exam per subject. These same young people will have to pay for their college education - when my generation got it for free (and also received a grant for living). fatgardener
  • Score: 4

7:40pm Mon 26 May 14

andy40 says...

abucks wrote:
I think you are the one showing disrespect to these children Mistamina! To imply that these children cannot behave as well as children in a Grammar School because they were marked as failures at 11, insults the children in Secondary Schools.. My sons and their friends know how to behave properly and do so. Those that don't behave well are not doing so because they failed the 11+ they do so due to a variety of factors, often these factors start at home well before they even take the 11+. Excusing bad behaviour on the 11+ is not helping them to learn respect for themselves or others. Respect is not a right it is earned - everyone deserves to be treated fairly but that is not the same thing.
Well said. What has the 11+ got to do with having good manners? These should be taught at home. Parents can't leave the raising of their children to school and then blame "the system" when they don't turn out the way they hoped.
[quote][p][bold]abucks[/bold] wrote: I think you are the one showing disrespect to these children Mistamina! To imply that these children cannot behave as well as children in a Grammar School because they were marked as failures at 11, insults the children in Secondary Schools.. My sons and their friends know how to behave properly and do so. Those that don't behave well are not doing so because they failed the 11+ they do so due to a variety of factors, often these factors start at home well before they even take the 11+. Excusing bad behaviour on the 11+ is not helping them to learn respect for themselves or others. Respect is not a right it is earned - everyone deserves to be treated fairly but that is not the same thing.[/p][/quote]Well said. What has the 11+ got to do with having good manners? These should be taught at home. Parents can't leave the raising of their children to school and then blame "the system" when they don't turn out the way they hoped. andy40
  • Score: 15

8:11pm Mon 26 May 14

Wycombe-buddy says...

We didnt have a proper leavers, schools usually set a date which allows
Students to say good bye and get their school shirts signed, however many schools end classes early giving students no time to say bye, they obviously plan it well before as they have "food snacks" all prepared. They also treat you like intruders after that day and we have to
Ring into reception and get a "visitors" pass even though we spent 5 years in that place, ramsay staff act like police officers running around on their "walkie talkies" . Its very unprofessional and harsh for schools to do this.
We didnt have a proper leavers, schools usually set a date which allows Students to say good bye and get their school shirts signed, however many schools end classes early giving students no time to say bye, they obviously plan it well before as they have "food snacks" all prepared. They also treat you like intruders after that day and we have to Ring into reception and get a "visitors" pass even though we spent 5 years in that place, ramsay staff act like police officers running around on their "walkie talkies" . Its very unprofessional and harsh for schools to do this. Wycombe-buddy
  • Score: 7

8:12pm Mon 26 May 14

andy40 says...

" Further to this, students now take about 25 exams over May and June, when I only had one exam per subject."

I am also of an age when I only took 1 (or maybe 2) exams per subject. But these were 3 hours long so the whole 2 year syllabus was tested in one exam rather than being broken down into manageable chunks and tested in 3 one hour exams as it is now. Don't get me started on controlled assessments.........
" Further to this, students now take about 25 exams over May and June, when I only had one exam per subject." I am also of an age when I only took 1 (or maybe 2) exams per subject. But these were 3 hours long so the whole 2 year syllabus was tested in one exam rather than being broken down into manageable chunks and tested in 3 one hour exams as it is now. Don't get me started on controlled assessments......... andy40
  • Score: 2

11:14pm Mon 26 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

abucks wrote:
The schools move leaving days when they suspect that the pupils have pranks planned - this was obviously the case here and the pupils should blame the ones planning trouble not the staff. The staff gave them a proper last day with food. They will see each other again, the exams are not over by a long chalk and they will all attend for their results in August. The lack of respect is by pupils thinking they can act how they wish with no respect to staff and other pupils. Respect is not a right.
Yeah - it's strange they had eggs handy - were they all cooking enthusiasts?
[quote][p][bold]abucks[/bold] wrote: The schools move leaving days when they suspect that the pupils have pranks planned - this was obviously the case here and the pupils should blame the ones planning trouble not the staff. The staff gave them a proper last day with food. They will see each other again, the exams are not over by a long chalk and they will all attend for their results in August. The lack of respect is by pupils thinking they can act how they wish with no respect to staff and other pupils. Respect is not a right.[/p][/quote]Yeah - it's strange they had eggs handy - were they all cooking enthusiasts? Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 7

11:18pm Mon 26 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

Mr Totterdge Hill wrote:
Bunch of hooligans, bring back the cane!
For the young WOMEN - round my house!
[quote][p][bold]Mr Totterdge Hill[/bold] wrote: Bunch of hooligans, bring back the cane![/p][/quote]For the young WOMEN - round my house! Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 8

11:29pm Mon 26 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

Themartian18 wrote:
Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police.

My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid).

My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day!

By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!!

Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly
' TEACHERS called police after Year 11 students started throwing eggs outside their school following a surprise leavers’ assembly.

The incident occurred after the assembly for school leavers on Thursday, May 8.
The police were forced to return the following day as students again caused trouble after they were refused entry to the building.'


It sounds as if the eggs were the following day.
[quote][p][bold]Themartian18[/bold] wrote: Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police. My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid). My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day! By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!! Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly[/p][/quote]'[italic] TEACHERS called police after Year 11 students started throwing eggs outside their school following a surprise leavers’ assembly. … The incident occurred after the assembly for school leavers on Thursday, May 8. The police were forced to return the following day as students again caused trouble after they were refused entry to the building.' [/italic] It sounds as if the eggs were the following day. Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 3

12:02am Tue 27 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

Undercover Euro Yob wrote:
Themartian18 wrote:
Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police.

My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid).

My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day!

By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!!

Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly
' TEACHERS called police after Year 11 students started throwing eggs outside their school following a surprise leavers’ assembly.

The incident occurred after the assembly for school leavers on Thursday, May 8.
The police were forced to return the following day as students again caused trouble after they were refused entry to the building.'


It sounds as if the eggs were the following day.
It sounds that way but but we shall never know with certainty as this is a report in the Bucks Free Press.
[quote][p][bold]Undercover Euro Yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Themartian18[/bold] wrote: Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police. My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid). My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day! By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!! Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly[/p][/quote]'[italic] TEACHERS called police after Year 11 students started throwing eggs outside their school following a surprise leavers’ assembly. … The incident occurred after the assembly for school leavers on Thursday, May 8. The police were forced to return the following day as students again caused trouble after they were refused entry to the building.' [/italic] It sounds as if the eggs were the following day.[/p][/quote]It sounds that way but but we shall never know with certainty as this is a report in the Bucks Free Press. Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 0

12:12am Tue 27 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

(I wonder if the BFP is going to report the meeting tomorrow at Mezzanine Room 2, County Hall, Aylesbury, where Professor Steve Strand of University of Oxford Department of Education, when Professor Strand's report into the 'Gap' in BCC education provision will be discussed.)
(I wonder if the BFP is going to report the meeting tomorrow at Mezzanine Room 2, County Hall, Aylesbury, where Professor Steve Strand of University of Oxford Department of Education, when Professor Strand's report into the 'Gap' in BCC education provision will be discussed.) Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 2

12:13am Tue 27 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

Some local people suspected the report might never see the light of day as it was anti-selection in tendency.
Some local people suspected the report might never see the light of day as it was anti-selection in tendency. Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 1

1:45am Tue 27 May 14

OnANeedToKnowBasis says...

Undercover Euro Yob wrote:
Themartian18 wrote:
Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police.

My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid).

My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day!

By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!!

Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly
' TEACHERS called police after Year 11 students started throwing eggs outside their school following a surprise leavers’ assembly.

The incident occurred after the assembly for school leavers on Thursday, May 8.
The police were forced to return the following day as students again caused trouble after they were refused entry to the building.'


It sounds as if the eggs were the following day.
I'm a year 11 student and I was there on both Thursday 8th when we were forced out and Friday 9th when we returned for an attempt to be let in . On the first day we did not do anything to the school; apart from dropping a couple stink bombs which we only had on us because we were distributing them among us for the following day. These were only dropped in the school gym where we were herded and they were used in an attempt for us to be let back out into the rest of the school, rather than locked and guarded in one room. On the following day it was only 3 members of us who actually had eggs on them and threw them. They did not even have many on them and it was he sheer brutality of the police even throwing some of us to the floor in an attempt of get us away from the school that we were disgusted with.
[quote][p][bold]Undercover Euro Yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Themartian18[/bold] wrote: Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police. My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid). My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day! By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!! Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly[/p][/quote]'[italic] TEACHERS called police after Year 11 students started throwing eggs outside their school following a surprise leavers’ assembly. … The incident occurred after the assembly for school leavers on Thursday, May 8. The police were forced to return the following day as students again caused trouble after they were refused entry to the building.' [/italic] It sounds as if the eggs were the following day.[/p][/quote]I'm a year 11 student and I was there on both Thursday 8th when we were forced out and Friday 9th when we returned for an attempt to be let in . On the first day we did not do anything to the school; apart from dropping a couple stink bombs which we only had on us because we were distributing them among us for the following day. These were only dropped in the school gym where we were herded and they were used in an attempt for us to be let back out into the rest of the school, rather than locked and guarded in one room. On the following day it was only 3 members of us who actually had eggs on them and threw them. They did not even have many on them and it was he sheer brutality of the police even throwing some of us to the floor in an attempt of get us away from the school that we were disgusted with. OnANeedToKnowBasis
  • Score: -5

7:55am Tue 27 May 14

MYSTERYPOSTER says...

Themartian18 wrote:
Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police.

My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid).

My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day!

By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!!

Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly
The kids didnt have eggs. The head closed the school because she heard the children were bringing in eggs on the friday. All it needed was to moniter bags on the friday to check for eggs rather than close the school.
[quote][p][bold]Themartian18[/bold] wrote: Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police. My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid). My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day! By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!! Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly[/p][/quote]The kids didnt have eggs. The head closed the school because she heard the children were bringing in eggs on the friday. All it needed was to moniter bags on the friday to check for eggs rather than close the school. MYSTERYPOSTER
  • Score: 0

9:36am Tue 27 May 14

Mr Totterdge Hill says...

mistamina wrote:
Mr Totterdge Hill wrote:
Bunch of hooligans, bring back the cane!
Where is your dungeon, Mr Totterdge Hill?
As I said a bunch of hooligans... not all of them... worst thing, I bet the teachers know who they are, So why a general ban? I suspect it's the worry about the herd mentality of students brought up without adequate parental supervision as well as a general disrespect for authority.
[quote][p][bold]mistamina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Totterdge Hill[/bold] wrote: Bunch of hooligans, bring back the cane![/p][/quote]Where is your dungeon, Mr Totterdge Hill?[/p][/quote]As I said a bunch of hooligans... not all of them... worst thing, I bet the teachers know who they are, So why a general ban? I suspect it's the worry about the herd mentality of students brought up without adequate parental supervision as well as a general disrespect for authority. Mr Totterdge Hill
  • Score: 1

10:26am Tue 27 May 14

mistamina says...

Marlow Mum wrote:
Wow, what a surprise... So the new head and her cohorts kicked out / forced out (amongst others) excellent teachers and members of the senior leadership team - who could control the kids quite comfortably - and now they have to call the police any time the kids go a bit bonkers. And you know why they went bonkers? Well that's because they were unceremoniously escorted off school premises a day early without prior warning.
Have no doubt about it, this school is in utter chaos. If you live in catchment area, I suggest you do whatever you can to make sure your child does not get sent to this school.
Simply put, the 'nice' ladies of Wycombe High School have no idea how to manage kids who've not had a lifetime of ponies, pistes and privilege.
*facepalm*
So surprise. Sponsored Academies do not work.
[quote][p][bold]Marlow Mum[/bold] wrote: Wow, what a surprise... So the new head and her cohorts kicked out / forced out (amongst others) excellent teachers and members of the senior leadership team - who could control the kids quite comfortably - and now they have to call the police any time the kids go a bit bonkers. And you know why they went bonkers? Well that's because they were unceremoniously escorted off school premises a day early without prior warning. Have no doubt about it, this school is in utter chaos. If you live in catchment area, I suggest you do whatever you can to make sure your child does not get sent to this school. Simply put, the 'nice' ladies of Wycombe High School have no idea how to manage kids who've not had a lifetime of ponies, pistes and privilege. *facepalm*[/p][/quote]So surprise. Sponsored Academies do not work. mistamina
  • Score: 3

10:40am Tue 27 May 14

mistamina says...

MYSTERYPOSTER wrote:
Themartian18 wrote:
Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police.

My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid).

My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day!

By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!!

Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly
The kids didnt have eggs. The head closed the school because she heard the children were bringing in eggs on the friday. All it needed was to moniter bags on the friday to check for eggs rather than close the school.
Respect to you young Padawan. you speak sense.
[quote][p][bold]MYSTERYPOSTER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Themartian18[/bold] wrote: Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police. My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid). My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day! By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!! Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly[/p][/quote]The kids didnt have eggs. The head closed the school because she heard the children were bringing in eggs on the friday. All it needed was to moniter bags on the friday to check for eggs rather than close the school.[/p][/quote]Respect to you young Padawan. you speak sense. mistamina
  • Score: 1

12:04pm Tue 27 May 14

mistamina says...

OnANeedToKnowBasis wrote:
Undercover Euro Yob wrote:
Themartian18 wrote:
Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police.

My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid).

My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day!

By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!!

Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly
' TEACHERS called police after Year 11 students started throwing eggs outside their school following a surprise leavers’ assembly.

The incident occurred after the assembly for school leavers on Thursday, May 8.
The police were forced to return the following day as students again caused trouble after they were refused entry to the building.'


It sounds as if the eggs were the following day.
I'm a year 11 student and I was there on both Thursday 8th when we were forced out and Friday 9th when we returned for an attempt to be let in . On the first day we did not do anything to the school; apart from dropping a couple stink bombs which we only had on us because we were distributing them among us for the following day. These were only dropped in the school gym where we were herded and they were used in an attempt for us to be let back out into the rest of the school, rather than locked and guarded in one room. On the following day it was only 3 members of us who actually had eggs on them and threw them. They did not even have many on them and it was he sheer brutality of the police even throwing some of us to the floor in an attempt of get us away from the school that we were disgusted with.
''sheer brutality of the police even throwing some of us to the floor in an attempt of get us away''
Oh my word!
[quote][p][bold]OnANeedToKnowBasis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Undercover Euro Yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Themartian18[/bold] wrote: Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police. My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid). My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day! By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!! Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly[/p][/quote]'[italic] TEACHERS called police after Year 11 students started throwing eggs outside their school following a surprise leavers’ assembly. … The incident occurred after the assembly for school leavers on Thursday, May 8. The police were forced to return the following day as students again caused trouble after they were refused entry to the building.' [/italic] It sounds as if the eggs were the following day.[/p][/quote]I'm a year 11 student and I was there on both Thursday 8th when we were forced out and Friday 9th when we returned for an attempt to be let in . On the first day we did not do anything to the school; apart from dropping a couple stink bombs which we only had on us because we were distributing them among us for the following day. These were only dropped in the school gym where we were herded and they were used in an attempt for us to be let back out into the rest of the school, rather than locked and guarded in one room. On the following day it was only 3 members of us who actually had eggs on them and threw them. They did not even have many on them and it was he sheer brutality of the police even throwing some of us to the floor in an attempt of get us away from the school that we were disgusted with.[/p][/quote]''sheer brutality of the police even throwing some of us to the floor in an attempt of get us away'' Oh my word! mistamina
  • Score: 2

2:56pm Tue 27 May 14

ArnyP_HW says...

If police truly were throwing minors to the floor then some kind of enquiry should probably follow as that is wholly unacceptable (unless it was in self-defence.

However call me naive but I don't believe that the police would have shown up without being given genuine cause to. They're not dial-a-security guard so I suspect they were called in response to genuine concerns for school/staff/student safety.

Perhaps this article could be a little less convoluted and a little more factual based?
If police truly were throwing minors to the floor then some kind of enquiry should probably follow as that is wholly unacceptable (unless it was in self-defence. However call me naive but I don't believe that the police would have shown up without being given genuine cause to. They're not dial-a-security guard so I suspect they were called in response to genuine concerns for school/staff/student safety. Perhaps this article could be a little less convoluted and a little more factual based? ArnyP_HW
  • Score: 5

3:26pm Tue 27 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

OnANeedToKnowBasis wrote:
Undercover Euro Yob wrote:
Themartian18 wrote:
Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police.

My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid).

My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day!

By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!!

Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly
' TEACHERS called police after Year 11 students started throwing eggs outside their school following a surprise leavers’ assembly.

The incident occurred after the assembly for school leavers on Thursday, May 8.
The police were forced to return the following day as students again caused trouble after they were refused entry to the building.'


It sounds as if the eggs were the following day.
I'm a year 11 student and I was there on both Thursday 8th when we were forced out and Friday 9th when we returned for an attempt to be let in . On the first day we did not do anything to the school; apart from dropping a couple stink bombs which we only had on us because we were distributing them among us for the following day. These were only dropped in the school gym where we were herded and they were used in an attempt for us to be let back out into the rest of the school, rather than locked and guarded in one room. On the following day it was only 3 members of us who actually had eggs on them and threw them. They did not even have many on them and it was he sheer brutality of the police even throwing some of us to the floor in an attempt of get us away from the school that we were disgusted with.
… dropping a couple stink bombs which we only had on us because we were distributing them among us for the following day. These were only dropped in the school gym where we were herded and they were used in an attempt for us to be let back out into the rest of the school, rather than locked and guarded in one room. On the following day it was only 3 members of us who actually had eggs on them and threw them.
LOL!

So you lot had no thoughts of troublemaking then!


Did you like the smell of your own stink bombs in the gym the first day?
How many had eggs but did not throw them?[
[quote][p][bold]OnANeedToKnowBasis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Undercover Euro Yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Themartian18[/bold] wrote: Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police. My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid). My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day! By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!! Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly[/p][/quote]'[italic] TEACHERS called police after Year 11 students started throwing eggs outside their school following a surprise leavers’ assembly. … The incident occurred after the assembly for school leavers on Thursday, May 8. The police were forced to return the following day as students again caused trouble after they were refused entry to the building.' [/italic] It sounds as if the eggs were the following day.[/p][/quote]I'm a year 11 student and I was there on both Thursday 8th when we were forced out and Friday 9th when we returned for an attempt to be let in . On the first day we did not do anything to the school; apart from dropping a couple stink bombs which we only had on us because we were distributing them among us for the following day. These were only dropped in the school gym where we were herded and they were used in an attempt for us to be let back out into the rest of the school, rather than locked and guarded in one room. On the following day it was only 3 members of us who actually had eggs on them and threw them. They did not even have many on them and it was he sheer brutality of the police even throwing some of us to the floor in an attempt of get us away from the school that we were disgusted with.[/p][/quote][italic]… dropping a couple stink bombs which we only had on us because we were distributing them among us for the following day. These were only dropped in the school gym where we were herded and they were used in an attempt for us to be let back out into the rest of the school, rather than locked and guarded in one room. On the following day it was only 3 members of us who actually had eggs on them and threw them. [/italic] LOL! So you lot had no thoughts of troublemaking then! Did you like the smell of your own stink bombs in the gym the first day? How many had eggs but did not throw them?[ Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 1

3:33pm Tue 27 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

MYSTERYPOSTER wrote:
Themartian18 wrote:
Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police.

My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid).

My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day!

By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!!

Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly
The kids didnt have eggs. The head closed the school because she heard the children were bringing in eggs on the friday. All it needed was to moniter bags on the friday to check for eggs rather than close the school.
According to 'OnANeedToKnowBasis' there were stink bombs one day and eggs the next.


All it needed was to moniter (sic) bags on the friday (sic) to check for eggs rather than close the school.


Or better still all that was needed was that you should leave the eggs at home.

(I don't suppose you paid for them in a shop.)

Eggs (and stink bombs) are being used as harassment and bullying by kids (or yobs who any other time would claim they were adults) who feel that it is just a joke - a joke they don't pay for or clear up after.
[quote][p][bold]MYSTERYPOSTER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Themartian18[/bold] wrote: Actually to clarify this, NO eggs were thrown on that day, the children were herded like sheep out of the school, to the awaiting police. My daughter had her PE kit in school and had to have special permission from the Head and be escorted back into the school by a teacher (who actually thought the whole thing was stupid). My daughter has gone through her school life with an exemplary behaviour record, why should all the kids be treated like prisoners, just because one or two may have been out to cause trouble the next day! By the way, if the kids didn't know anything about leaving that day, how did they all get eggs!! Wye Valley you have let your Year 11's down badly[/p][/quote]The kids didnt have eggs. The head closed the school because she heard the children were bringing in eggs on the friday. All it needed was to moniter bags on the friday to check for eggs rather than close the school.[/p][/quote]According to 'OnANeedToKnowBasis' there were stink bombs one day and eggs the next. [italic] All it needed was to moniter (sic) bags on the friday (sic) to check for eggs rather than close the school. [/italic] Or better still all that was needed was that you should leave the eggs at home. (I don't suppose you paid for them in a shop.) Eggs (and stink bombs) are being used as harassment and bullying by kids (or yobs who any other time would claim they were adults) who feel that it is just a joke - a joke they don't pay for or clear up after. Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 4

8:53am Wed 28 May 14

KrissieJS says...

Malc London wrote:
Sounds like the school made an effort for the pupils with a farewell party, food gifts and drinks.

Do any of them think to THANK the school for arranging this?
probably not. My son had a fab end of yr 11 there last year. No incidents at all.
They all got on with their teachers very well and respected them and in return the teachers respected them. But that was last year. a lot has happened since then at the school.
[quote][p][bold]Malc London[/bold] wrote: Sounds like the school made an effort for the pupils with a farewell party, food gifts and drinks. Do any of them think to THANK the school for arranging this?[/p][/quote]probably not. My son had a fab end of yr 11 there last year. No incidents at all. They all got on with their teachers very well and respected them and in return the teachers respected them. But that was last year. a lot has happened since then at the school. KrissieJS
  • Score: 8

10:57am Wed 28 May 14

abucks says...

The year 11 student ( ?'OnANeedToKnowBasis
' ) needs to re-read his/her post and have a long think. Obviously they had plans to throw stink bombs/eggs the next day - do they really think they had a right to do this??? They went back the next day in an ' attempt to be let in' why?? they had been told not too. GROW UP!! - you were found out ahead of time and the teachers took action to prevent your silly little pranks but instead of accepting this you came back to try again! As for your claim of 'sheer police brutality - for heavens sake!!! In addition you are responsible for the rest of the year 11s, who can behave, missing out on their planned last day.
The year 11 student ( ?'OnANeedToKnowBasis ' ) needs to re-read his/her post and have a long think. Obviously they had plans to throw stink bombs/eggs the next day - do they really think they had a right to do this??? They went back the next day in an ' attempt to be let in' why?? they had been told not too. GROW UP!! - you were found out ahead of time and the teachers took action to prevent your silly little pranks but instead of accepting this you came back to try again! As for your claim of 'sheer police brutality - for heavens sake!!! In addition you are responsible for the rest of the year 11s, who can behave, missing out on their planned last day. abucks
  • Score: 3

11:16am Wed 28 May 14

abucks says...

I told my secondary school year 11 son about the above story - his attitude was that the year 11s had been' out-smarted' by the teachers, didn't seem to share the outrage expressed by the students here.
I told my secondary school year 11 son about the above story - his attitude was that the year 11s had been' out-smarted' by the teachers, didn't seem to share the outrage expressed by the students here. abucks
  • Score: 5

12:14pm Wed 28 May 14

Marlow Mum says...

abucks wrote:
I told my secondary school year 11 son about the above story - his attitude was that the year 11s had been' out-smarted' by the teachers, didn't seem to share the outrage expressed by the students here.
I agree to a degree with your comment, abucks. The kids were indeed caught out. However, the bigger issue here is that this incident *would not have happened* a couple of years ago as there were teachers in place who knew the kids well and - importantly - were respected by the kids.
They would have singled out the few troublemakers and dealt with them effectively - rather than turfing *all* the kids out.
Have no doubt, this is a school in chaos. The teachers, in the main, are struggling to control the kids and the kids know it...
[quote][p][bold]abucks[/bold] wrote: I told my secondary school year 11 son about the above story - his attitude was that the year 11s had been' out-smarted' by the teachers, didn't seem to share the outrage expressed by the students here.[/p][/quote]I agree to a degree with your comment, abucks. The kids were indeed caught out. However, the bigger issue here is that this incident *would not have happened* a couple of years ago as there were teachers in place who knew the kids well and - importantly - were respected by the kids. They would have singled out the few troublemakers and dealt with them effectively - rather than turfing *all* the kids out. Have no doubt, this is a school in chaos. The teachers, in the main, are struggling to control the kids and the kids know it... Marlow Mum
  • Score: 6

12:33pm Wed 28 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

abucks wrote:
I told my secondary school year 11 son about the above story - his attitude was that the year 11s had been' out-smarted' by the teachers, didn't seem to share the outrage expressed by the students here.
Your son is not a yob from the Wye Valley School catchment area - round there they seem to feel entitlement when it comes to harassing people.


I think the police are partly to blame for not having a word with them before they start confidently throwing their weight around at school - I suppose women PCSOs feel frightened by a crowd of yobs and this confirms the confidence of the yobs that they are men who can do what they like with their hangers on - this is where the trouble starts.
[quote][p][bold]abucks[/bold] wrote: I told my secondary school year 11 son about the above story - his attitude was that the year 11s had been' out-smarted' by the teachers, didn't seem to share the outrage expressed by the students here.[/p][/quote]Your son is not a yob from the Wye Valley School catchment area - round there they seem to feel entitlement when it comes to harassing people. I think the police are partly to blame for not having a word with them before they start confidently throwing their weight around at school - I suppose women PCSOs feel frightened by a crowd of yobs and this confirms the confidence of the yobs that they are men who can do what they like with their hangers on - this is where the trouble starts. Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 0

12:44pm Wed 28 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

KrissieJS wrote:
Malc London wrote:
Sounds like the school made an effort for the pupils with a farewell party, food gifts and drinks.

Do any of them think to THANK the school for arranging this?
probably not. My son had a fab end of yr 11 there last year. No incidents at all.
They all got on with their teachers very well and respected them and in return the teachers respected them. But that was last year. a lot has happened since then at the school.
I don't want to be unpleasant personally to Mike Appleyard, but the Cabinet Member of BCC for Education and Training was head governor at the school during the period before it was taken into special measures - if the Cabinet Member with these responsibilities was unable, or unwilling, to take action to prevent the situation we see here from developing, or unaware that it was developing, then what does this say about secondary modern schools in the county and about accountability and personal responsibility?

If a comprehensive school in a Labour area had the history of the last eighteen months behind it that Wye Valley and Mike Appleyard do, then it would be treated by the Conservative party and press as proof of the failed educational policies of their ideological opponent.

The role of public oversight of the school in the case of Wye Valley has not been carried out by the governors but by Ofsted - is there accountability in our county’s educational system?
[quote][p][bold]KrissieJS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malc London[/bold] wrote: Sounds like the school made an effort for the pupils with a farewell party, food gifts and drinks. Do any of them think to THANK the school for arranging this?[/p][/quote]probably not. My son had a fab end of yr 11 there last year. No incidents at all. They all got on with their teachers very well and respected them and in return the teachers respected them. But that was last year. a lot has happened since then at the school.[/p][/quote]I don't want to be unpleasant personally to Mike Appleyard, but the Cabinet Member of BCC for Education and Training was head governor at the school during the period before it was taken into special measures - if the Cabinet Member with these responsibilities was unable, or unwilling, to take action to prevent the situation we see here from developing, or unaware that it was developing, then what does this say about secondary modern schools in the county and about accountability and personal responsibility? If a comprehensive school in a Labour area had the history of the last eighteen months behind it that Wye Valley and Mike Appleyard do, then it would be treated by the Conservative party and press as proof of the failed educational policies of their ideological opponent. The role of public oversight of the school in the case of Wye Valley has not been carried out by the governors but by Ofsted - is there accountability in our county’s educational system? Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 3

1:01pm Wed 28 May 14

mistamina says...

Undercover Euro Yob wrote:
KrissieJS wrote:
Malc London wrote:
Sounds like the school made an effort for the pupils with a farewell party, food gifts and drinks.

Do any of them think to THANK the school for arranging this?
probably not. My son had a fab end of yr 11 there last year. No incidents at all.
They all got on with their teachers very well and respected them and in return the teachers respected them. But that was last year. a lot has happened since then at the school.
I don't want to be unpleasant personally to Mike Appleyard, but the Cabinet Member of BCC for Education and Training was head governor at the school during the period before it was taken into special measures - if the Cabinet Member with these responsibilities was unable, or unwilling, to take action to prevent the situation we see here from developing, or unaware that it was developing, then what does this say about secondary modern schools in the county and about accountability and personal responsibility?

If a comprehensive school in a Labour area had the history of the last eighteen months behind it that Wye Valley and Mike Appleyard do, then it would be treated by the Conservative party and press as proof of the failed educational policies of their ideological opponent.

The role of public oversight of the school in the case of Wye Valley has not been carried out by the governors but by Ofsted - is there accountability in our county’s educational system?
Good point Yob. it is not personal, it is Institutional.
[quote][p][bold]Undercover Euro Yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KrissieJS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malc London[/bold] wrote: Sounds like the school made an effort for the pupils with a farewell party, food gifts and drinks. Do any of them think to THANK the school for arranging this?[/p][/quote]probably not. My son had a fab end of yr 11 there last year. No incidents at all. They all got on with their teachers very well and respected them and in return the teachers respected them. But that was last year. a lot has happened since then at the school.[/p][/quote]I don't want to be unpleasant personally to Mike Appleyard, but the Cabinet Member of BCC for Education and Training was head governor at the school during the period before it was taken into special measures - if the Cabinet Member with these responsibilities was unable, or unwilling, to take action to prevent the situation we see here from developing, or unaware that it was developing, then what does this say about secondary modern schools in the county and about accountability and personal responsibility? If a comprehensive school in a Labour area had the history of the last eighteen months behind it that Wye Valley and Mike Appleyard do, then it would be treated by the Conservative party and press as proof of the failed educational policies of their ideological opponent. The role of public oversight of the school in the case of Wye Valley has not been carried out by the governors but by Ofsted - is there accountability in our county’s educational system?[/p][/quote]Good point Yob. it is not personal, it is Institutional. mistamina
  • Score: 2

2:10pm Wed 28 May 14

mistamina says...

Marlow Mum wrote:
abucks wrote:
I told my secondary school year 11 son about the above story - his attitude was that the year 11s had been' out-smarted' by the teachers, didn't seem to share the outrage expressed by the students here.
I agree to a degree with your comment, abucks. The kids were indeed caught out. However, the bigger issue here is that this incident *would not have happened* a couple of years ago as there were teachers in place who knew the kids well and - importantly - were respected by the kids.
They would have singled out the few troublemakers and dealt with them effectively - rather than turfing *all* the kids out.
Have no doubt, this is a school in chaos. The teachers, in the main, are struggling to control the kids and the kids know it...
Wish you were my Mum.
May i please add. For a One-to-one with students (very good and proven practice indeed!) these teachers would have to be motivated and very hard working. It would bring understanding and respect from these (or any) kids. Going by quite a few previous blog comments, teachers ownership and their moral appears low. Turfing all the kids out and setting the police on them was a knee-jerk over-reaction. It appears the police over-reacted too.
The nice ladies of Wycombe High School could buy the Wye kids some ponies, pistes and privileges. That would be nice. I can guarantee, this will get the ladies the respect they appear to want for free.

PS. What's for dinner, Mum?
[quote][p][bold]Marlow Mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abucks[/bold] wrote: I told my secondary school year 11 son about the above story - his attitude was that the year 11s had been' out-smarted' by the teachers, didn't seem to share the outrage expressed by the students here.[/p][/quote]I agree to a degree with your comment, abucks. The kids were indeed caught out. However, the bigger issue here is that this incident *would not have happened* a couple of years ago as there were teachers in place who knew the kids well and - importantly - were respected by the kids. They would have singled out the few troublemakers and dealt with them effectively - rather than turfing *all* the kids out. Have no doubt, this is a school in chaos. The teachers, in the main, are struggling to control the kids and the kids know it...[/p][/quote]Wish you were my Mum. May i please add. For a One-to-one with students (very good and proven practice indeed!) these teachers would have to be motivated and very hard working. It would bring understanding and respect from these (or any) kids. Going by quite a few previous blog comments, teachers ownership and their moral appears low. Turfing all the kids out and setting the police on them was a knee-jerk over-reaction. It appears the police over-reacted too. The nice ladies of Wycombe High School could buy the Wye kids some ponies, pistes and privileges. That would be nice. I can guarantee, this will get the ladies the respect they appear to want for free. PS. What's for dinner, Mum? mistamina
  • Score: -5

8:33pm Wed 28 May 14

abucks says...

Undercover Euro Yob - no my son isn't a yob but then most of the children from the Wye Valley catchment area are not yobs either. Most of them will be ordinary children who are going to a school which obviously has a lot of problems. Most pupils going to any school are not yobs but 100% are not angels either, Grammar Schools included.
Undercover Euro Yob - no my son isn't a yob but then most of the children from the Wye Valley catchment area are not yobs either. Most of them will be ordinary children who are going to a school which obviously has a lot of problems. Most pupils going to any school are not yobs but 100% are not angels either, Grammar Schools included. abucks
  • Score: 3

8:45pm Wed 28 May 14

abucks says...

mistamina - I sense that you feel I am painting my sons as angels - believe me they are far from that - they just have the sense to know what's likely to get them into big trouble and when the 'games up'. I agree that the relationship with teachers and pupils is the key and that ideally the teachers would be able to make the likely candidates 'see the light' - however some pupils -particularly those not returning to sixth form, maybe already banned from the prom and feeling they have nothing to lose- wille be known to be planning trouble. I think that people also forget that younger children at the school can be intimidated by the idea of older pupils causing trouble - I have often had to reassure year 7s I know that 'muck up day' will not result in them being pelted by eggs etc. These year 11 boys are not children- many of them are 6 ft tall. fyi - meatballs for tea.
mistamina - I sense that you feel I am painting my sons as angels - believe me they are far from that - they just have the sense to know what's likely to get them into big trouble and when the 'games up'. I agree that the relationship with teachers and pupils is the key and that ideally the teachers would be able to make the likely candidates 'see the light' - however some pupils -particularly those not returning to sixth form, maybe already banned from the prom and feeling they have nothing to lose- wille be known to be planning trouble. I think that people also forget that younger children at the school can be intimidated by the idea of older pupils causing trouble - I have often had to reassure year 7s I know that 'muck up day' will not result in them being pelted by eggs etc. These year 11 boys are not children- many of them are 6 ft tall. fyi - meatballs for tea. abucks
  • Score: 4

11:29pm Wed 28 May 14

DocD says...

How have we allowed the use of police in situations like these to be normalised? This was not a public order situation this was a leavers day!
How have we allowed the use of police in situations like these to be normalised? This was not a public order situation this was a leavers day! DocD
  • Score: -3

12:08pm Thu 29 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

mistamina wrote:
Undercover Euro Yob wrote:
KrissieJS wrote:
Malc London wrote:
Sounds like the school made an effort for the pupils with a farewell party, food gifts and drinks.

Do any of them think to THANK the school for arranging this?
probably not. My son had a fab end of yr 11 there last year. No incidents at all.
They all got on with their teachers very well and respected them and in return the teachers respected them. But that was last year. a lot has happened since then at the school.
I don't want to be unpleasant personally to Mike Appleyard, but the Cabinet Member of BCC for Education and Training was head governor at the school during the period before it was taken into special measures - if the Cabinet Member with these responsibilities was unable, or unwilling, to take action to prevent the situation we see here from developing, or unaware that it was developing, then what does this say about secondary modern schools in the county and about accountability and personal responsibility?

If a comprehensive school in a Labour area had the history of the last eighteen months behind it that Wye Valley and Mike Appleyard do, then it would be treated by the Conservative party and press as proof of the failed educational policies of their ideological opponent.

The role of public oversight of the school in the case of Wye Valley has not been carried out by the governors but by Ofsted - is there accountability in our county’s educational system?
Good point Yob. it is not personal, it is Institutional.
I think it's a bit of both actually and arises at least partly from the fact that this is a safe Conservative area and local politicians and local institutions have become complacent and lazy like Labour councils in working class industrial areas in the past.

Val Letheren recently refused to respond to Labour criticisms of the 'gap review' BCC is going through the motions of having. (This was reported in the Bucks Herald but not here - see: http://www.buckshera
ld.co.uk/news/more-n
ews/education-report
-slammed-as-superfic
ial-but-its-author-i
s-left-fuming-mad-1-
6019492) and Mike Appleyard was here on a video clip saying he did not want to discuss the 11+ and he has refused to do so in private correspondence with me.

Political people are not professional or conscientious and voters are indifferent.
[quote][p][bold]mistamina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Undercover Euro Yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KrissieJS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malc London[/bold] wrote: Sounds like the school made an effort for the pupils with a farewell party, food gifts and drinks. Do any of them think to THANK the school for arranging this?[/p][/quote]probably not. My son had a fab end of yr 11 there last year. No incidents at all. They all got on with their teachers very well and respected them and in return the teachers respected them. But that was last year. a lot has happened since then at the school.[/p][/quote]I don't want to be unpleasant personally to Mike Appleyard, but the Cabinet Member of BCC for Education and Training was head governor at the school during the period before it was taken into special measures - if the Cabinet Member with these responsibilities was unable, or unwilling, to take action to prevent the situation we see here from developing, or unaware that it was developing, then what does this say about secondary modern schools in the county and about accountability and personal responsibility? If a comprehensive school in a Labour area had the history of the last eighteen months behind it that Wye Valley and Mike Appleyard do, then it would be treated by the Conservative party and press as proof of the failed educational policies of their ideological opponent. The role of public oversight of the school in the case of Wye Valley has not been carried out by the governors but by Ofsted - is there accountability in our county’s educational system?[/p][/quote]Good point Yob. it is not personal, it is Institutional.[/p][/quote]I think it's a bit of both actually and arises at least partly from the fact that this is a safe Conservative area and local politicians and local institutions have become complacent and lazy like Labour councils in working class industrial areas in the past. Val Letheren recently refused to respond to Labour criticisms of the 'gap review' BCC is going through the motions of having. (This was reported in the Bucks Herald but not here - see: http://www.buckshera ld.co.uk/news/more-n ews/education-report -slammed-as-superfic ial-but-its-author-i s-left-fuming-mad-1- 6019492) and Mike Appleyard was here on a video clip saying he did not want to discuss the 11+ and he has refused to do so in private correspondence with me. Political people are not professional or conscientious and voters are indifferent. Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 2

12:12pm Thu 29 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

DocD wrote:
How have we allowed the use of police in situations like these to be normalised? This was not a public order situation this was a leavers day!
It's mot really 'normalised' is it if the situation is reported in the BFP?

I looks as if it was a leavers' day that was turned into a public order situation.
[quote][p][bold]DocD[/bold] wrote: How have we allowed the use of police in situations like these to be normalised? This was not a public order situation this was a leavers day![/p][/quote]It's mot really 'normalised' is it if the situation is reported in the BFP? I looks as if it was a leavers' day that was turned into a public order situation. Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 1

12:18pm Thu 29 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

abucks wrote:
Undercover Euro Yob - no my son isn't a yob but then most of the children from the Wye Valley catchment area are not yobs either. Most of them will be ordinary children who are going to a school which obviously has a lot of problems. Most pupils going to any school are not yobs but 100% are not angels either, Grammar Schools included.
When I said 'Your son is not a yob from the Wye Valley School catchment area ... ' I meant that he was not one of a bunch of yobs in the news - I
was not suggesting he was a yob from somewhere else than the Wye Valley School catchment area.


(Have you considered that he might be secret yob - my mum did not think I was a yob until I was 35?)
[quote][p][bold]abucks[/bold] wrote: Undercover Euro Yob - no my son isn't a yob but then most of the children from the Wye Valley catchment area are not yobs either. Most of them will be ordinary children who are going to a school which obviously has a lot of problems. Most pupils going to any school are not yobs but 100% are not angels either, Grammar Schools included.[/p][/quote]When I said 'Your son is not a yob from the Wye Valley School catchment area ... ' I meant that he was not one of a bunch of yobs in the news - I was not suggesting he was a yob from somewhere else than the Wye Valley School catchment area. (Have you considered that he might be secret yob - my mum did not think I was a yob until I was 35?) Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: -1

3:05pm Thu 29 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

*might be a secret yob*
*might be a secret yob* Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 0

3:53pm Thu 29 May 14

abucks says...

Undercover Euro Yob says... *might be a secret yob*

Of course he might be - not sure where he would fit it in - school, army cadets, football, cinema trips, girls etc -..... He certainly is no angel , just a normal like his friends. Serious point though - i think the busier they are in 'healthy' stuff' - the less likely to find time for 'yobbish stuff'.
Undercover Euro Yob says... *might be a secret yob* Of course he might be - not sure where he would fit it in - school, army cadets, football, cinema trips, girls etc -..... He certainly is no angel , just a normal like his friends. Serious point though - i think the busier they are in 'healthy' stuff' - the less likely to find time for 'yobbish stuff'. abucks
  • Score: 1

3:54pm Thu 29 May 14

abucks says...

Undercover Euro Yob wrote:
Mr Totterdge Hill wrote:
Bunch of hooligans, bring back the cane!
For the young WOMEN - round my house!
yuk
[quote][p][bold]Undercover Euro Yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Totterdge Hill[/bold] wrote: Bunch of hooligans, bring back the cane![/p][/quote]For the young WOMEN - round my house![/p][/quote]yuk abucks
  • Score: 0

11:08am Fri 30 May 14

mistamina says...

Undercover Euro Yob wrote:
mistamina wrote:
Undercover Euro Yob wrote:
KrissieJS wrote:
Malc London wrote:
Sounds like the school made an effort for the pupils with a farewell party, food gifts and drinks.

Do any of them think to THANK the school for arranging this?
probably not. My son had a fab end of yr 11 there last year. No incidents at all.
They all got on with their teachers very well and respected them and in return the teachers respected them. But that was last year. a lot has happened since then at the school.
I don't want to be unpleasant personally to Mike Appleyard, but the Cabinet Member of BCC for Education and Training was head governor at the school during the period before it was taken into special measures - if the Cabinet Member with these responsibilities was unable, or unwilling, to take action to prevent the situation we see here from developing, or unaware that it was developing, then what does this say about secondary modern schools in the county and about accountability and personal responsibility?

If a comprehensive school in a Labour area had the history of the last eighteen months behind it that Wye Valley and Mike Appleyard do, then it would be treated by the Conservative party and press as proof of the failed educational policies of their ideological opponent.

The role of public oversight of the school in the case of Wye Valley has not been carried out by the governors but by Ofsted - is there accountability in our county’s educational system?
Good point Yob. it is not personal, it is Institutional.
I think it's a bit of both actually and arises at least partly from the fact that this is a safe Conservative area and local politicians and local institutions have become complacent and lazy like Labour councils in working class industrial areas in the past.

Val Letheren recently refused to respond to Labour criticisms of the 'gap review' BCC is going through the motions of having. (This was reported in the Bucks Herald but not here - see: http://www.buckshera

ld.co.uk/news/more-n

ews/education-report

-slammed-as-superfic

ial-but-its-author-i

s-left-fuming-mad-1-

6019492) and Mike Appleyard was here on a video clip saying he did not want to discuss the 11+ and he has refused to do so in private correspondence with me.

Political people are not professional or conscientious and voters are indifferent.
Yob,
We accept complacency and bad decision making does set in, if a party or person remains in power too long, e.g. Magnificent Maggie, Tremendous Tony, etc., etc.
R U saying this is the reason why we are being vilified in Bucks for having a Big Gap?
And why do we have the big Gap anyway? Troubled inner city councils have been reducing thoers for a decade now?
Sirely we are cleverer, richer, more savie than THEM!
[quote][p][bold]Undercover Euro Yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mistamina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Undercover Euro Yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KrissieJS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malc London[/bold] wrote: Sounds like the school made an effort for the pupils with a farewell party, food gifts and drinks. Do any of them think to THANK the school for arranging this?[/p][/quote]probably not. My son had a fab end of yr 11 there last year. No incidents at all. They all got on with their teachers very well and respected them and in return the teachers respected them. But that was last year. a lot has happened since then at the school.[/p][/quote]I don't want to be unpleasant personally to Mike Appleyard, but the Cabinet Member of BCC for Education and Training was head governor at the school during the period before it was taken into special measures - if the Cabinet Member with these responsibilities was unable, or unwilling, to take action to prevent the situation we see here from developing, or unaware that it was developing, then what does this say about secondary modern schools in the county and about accountability and personal responsibility? If a comprehensive school in a Labour area had the history of the last eighteen months behind it that Wye Valley and Mike Appleyard do, then it would be treated by the Conservative party and press as proof of the failed educational policies of their ideological opponent. The role of public oversight of the school in the case of Wye Valley has not been carried out by the governors but by Ofsted - is there accountability in our county’s educational system?[/p][/quote]Good point Yob. it is not personal, it is Institutional.[/p][/quote]I think it's a bit of both actually and arises at least partly from the fact that this is a safe Conservative area and local politicians and local institutions have become complacent and lazy like Labour councils in working class industrial areas in the past. Val Letheren recently refused to respond to Labour criticisms of the 'gap review' BCC is going through the motions of having. (This was reported in the Bucks Herald but not here - see: http://www.buckshera ld.co.uk/news/more-n ews/education-report -slammed-as-superfic ial-but-its-author-i s-left-fuming-mad-1- 6019492) and Mike Appleyard was here on a video clip saying he did not want to discuss the 11+ and he has refused to do so in private correspondence with me. Political people are not professional or conscientious and voters are indifferent.[/p][/quote]Yob, We accept complacency and bad decision making does set in, if a party or person remains in power too long, e.g. Magnificent Maggie, Tremendous Tony, etc., etc. R U saying this is the reason why we are being vilified in Bucks for having a Big Gap? And why do we have the big Gap anyway? Troubled inner city councils have been reducing thoers for a decade now? Sirely we are cleverer, richer, more savie than THEM! mistamina
  • Score: 0

11:22am Fri 30 May 14

mistamina says...

abucks wrote:
mistamina - I sense that you feel I am painting my sons as angels - believe me they are far from that - they just have the sense to know what's likely to get them into big trouble and when the 'games up'. I agree that the relationship with teachers and pupils is the key and that ideally the teachers would be able to make the likely candidates 'see the light' - however some pupils -particularly those not returning to sixth form, maybe already banned from the prom and feeling they have nothing to lose- wille be known to be planning trouble. I think that people also forget that younger children at the school can be intimidated by the idea of older pupils causing trouble - I have often had to reassure year 7s I know that 'muck up day' will not result in them being pelted by eggs etc. These year 11 boys are not children- many of them are 6 ft tall. fyi - meatballs for tea.
Love our children, but they are no angels. If any teenagers did not push at the boundaries, there will be cause for concern. It is only natural.
So for the majority of Bucks students, we have behavior and massive achievement problems in our Secondary Moderns (refer to Police & recent Ofsteds). Something in our system is not right.
Any thoughts why?
(Parents aside - all parents want the best for their children.)
[quote][p][bold]abucks[/bold] wrote: mistamina - I sense that you feel I am painting my sons as angels - believe me they are far from that - they just have the sense to know what's likely to get them into big trouble and when the 'games up'. I agree that the relationship with teachers and pupils is the key and that ideally the teachers would be able to make the likely candidates 'see the light' - however some pupils -particularly those not returning to sixth form, maybe already banned from the prom and feeling they have nothing to lose- wille be known to be planning trouble. I think that people also forget that younger children at the school can be intimidated by the idea of older pupils causing trouble - I have often had to reassure year 7s I know that 'muck up day' will not result in them being pelted by eggs etc. These year 11 boys are not children- many of them are 6 ft tall. fyi - meatballs for tea.[/p][/quote]Love our children, but they are no angels. If any teenagers did not push at the boundaries, there will be cause for concern. It is only natural. So for the majority of Bucks students, we have behavior and massive achievement problems in our Secondary Moderns (refer to Police & recent Ofsteds). Something in our system is not right. Any thoughts why? (Parents aside - all parents want the best for their children.) mistamina
  • Score: 1

1:35pm Fri 30 May 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

abucks wrote:
Undercover Euro Yob wrote:
Mr Totterdge Hill wrote:
Bunch of hooligans, bring back the cane!
For the young WOMEN - round my house!
yuk
I put it in as a response to Mr Totteridge Hill.

Yob looks thoughtful: 'it takes all sorts you know!'
[quote][p][bold]abucks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Undercover Euro Yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Totterdge Hill[/bold] wrote: Bunch of hooligans, bring back the cane![/p][/quote]For the young WOMEN - round my house![/p][/quote]yuk[/p][/quote]I put it in as a response to Mr Totteridge Hill. Yob looks thoughtful: 'it takes all sorts you know!' Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 0

10:12am Thu 5 Jun 14

hillyparent says...

I've read all the above and there is no mention that OFSTED came in on the Friday. no wonder the Y11 kids werent there on Friday. with a new management team in place, they should have been able to show the ofsted inspectors what progress had been made and been proud to share the last publicised day with the kids.
I've read all the above and there is no mention that OFSTED came in on the Friday. no wonder the Y11 kids werent there on Friday. with a new management team in place, they should have been able to show the ofsted inspectors what progress had been made and been proud to share the last publicised day with the kids. hillyparent
  • Score: 2

10:20am Thu 5 Jun 14

Marlow Mum says...

hillyparent wrote:
I've read all the above and there is no mention that OFSTED came in on the Friday. no wonder the Y11 kids werent there on Friday. with a new management team in place, they should have been able to show the ofsted inspectors what progress had been made and been proud to share the last publicised day with the kids.
Oh that's genius! Nope, didn't know that. Very interesting...
[quote][p][bold]hillyparent[/bold] wrote: I've read all the above and there is no mention that OFSTED came in on the Friday. no wonder the Y11 kids werent there on Friday. with a new management team in place, they should have been able to show the ofsted inspectors what progress had been made and been proud to share the last publicised day with the kids.[/p][/quote]Oh that's genius! Nope, didn't know that. Very interesting... Marlow Mum
  • Score: 1

1:08pm Thu 5 Jun 14

mistamina says...

Marlow Mum wrote:
hillyparent wrote:
I've read all the above and there is no mention that OFSTED came in on the Friday. no wonder the Y11 kids werent there on Friday. with a new management team in place, they should have been able to show the ofsted inspectors what progress had been made and been proud to share the last publicised day with the kids.
Oh that's genius! Nope, didn't know that. Very interesting...
Yes, thanks for that insight. Will be very interesting to see how this school's Governors make the school accountable for their immoral actions.
Unfortunately, dumping on the children is becoming common practice.

Ultimately backfired big time, now, not only is Ofsted monitoring the school but parents are watching the school like a hawk for any further unfair actions towards their children.
[quote][p][bold]Marlow Mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hillyparent[/bold] wrote: I've read all the above and there is no mention that OFSTED came in on the Friday. no wonder the Y11 kids werent there on Friday. with a new management team in place, they should have been able to show the ofsted inspectors what progress had been made and been proud to share the last publicised day with the kids.[/p][/quote]Oh that's genius! Nope, didn't know that. Very interesting...[/p][/quote]Yes, thanks for that insight. Will be very interesting to see how this school's Governors make the school accountable for their immoral actions. Unfortunately, dumping on the children is becoming common practice. Ultimately backfired big time, now, not only is Ofsted monitoring the school but parents are watching the school like a hawk for any further unfair actions towards their children. mistamina
  • Score: 0

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