Staff could protest over Wycombe Hospital car-parking

Bucks Free Press: Staff could protest over Wycombe Hospital car-parking Staff could protest over Wycombe Hospital car-parking

HOSPITAL workers have warned patients’ care could be affected because of a lack of parking for staff and an “aggressive” stance taken by parking wardens.

A Wycombe Hospital worker told the BFP doctors, nurses and midwives are known to be late on to shifts due to a lack of available parking bays.

Workers – who pay a monthly fee to park on-site – have been ticketed for paying additional money to use the pay-and-display public car-park.

One worker was taken to court and fined £300 after refusing to pay the parking charge notice.

A staff member, who asked not to be named, told the Free Press that members in their team would consider a sit-in protest in the car-park if the “aggressive” car-park clamp down continues.

The employee, who has been fined, said: “People are often late for shifts because they can’t find a space, which has a knock on effect for patients.

“We received a letter to warn us that we risk a fine if we take a space away from the public and we should find somewhere else to park – but we pay monthly to park, yet often can’t find a space and there’s nowhere else to go.

“Most of us have decided that if we get fined again we will sit in our cars until something is done. The Trust says it’s not their problem but this is a big issue.”

The employee said the parking issues also extended to visitors and patients.

The worker urged Buckinghamshire Health NHS Trust to lay on additional parking at the Queen Alexandra Road-based hospital and to speak to its parking enforcement contractor to take a less forceful approach towards staff.

In a statement, the trust said like any organisation in a large town centre, parking provision for staff and visitors is a “delicate balancing act”.

It added: “While there is provision for 600 on-site staff parking places, together with a free park-and-ride, we advise staff that a space cannot be guaranteed and that we must take steps to ensure there is adequate parking space for those patients and visitors who need it.

“Where appropriate, we do support staff with issues around parking tickets but, equally, staff need to follow the correct process around parking notices.”

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12:46pm Thu 12 Jun 14

rem708 says...

"The Trust says it’s not their problem but this is a big issue.” what happened to their duty of care to staff?
"The Trust says it’s not their problem but this is a big issue.” what happened to their duty of care to staff? rem708
  • Score: 26

12:49pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Flackwell says...

Like many public services the workers assume they only exist for them rather than their "customers"
Like many public services the workers assume they only exist for them rather than their "customers" Flackwell
  • Score: -35

2:39pm Thu 12 Jun 14

L1OVE says...

I would first have to question the aforementioned ‘600 onsite parking spaces’ ? May I ask, would the figure given include the Private Hospital Parking which is also situated within the site? I find it hard to believe there are so many spaces available, let alone 600 solely dedicated for staff?
May I also highlight the fact there could indeed be more than 600 Staff members including Doctors, Surgeons, Nurses, Pharmacists, Midwives, Healthcare Assistants, Admin Staff, Domestic and Household, Catering, as well as Help Desk and Porters on site at any given time or site.
Patients and Visitors park in the Staff Parking bays regularly and are not given tickets. Is this because the Trusts Mission Statement would be called into question?
Please don’t get me wrong, I do think there should be AFFORDABLE parking facilities for Staff, Patients and Relatives but as Staff are having to pay twice to enable them to do their job I don’t feel that Parking should be a profitable exercise for others.
The Trust need to ensure they support their employees, especially those having to work between sites, i.e., both Wycombe and Stoke Mandeville.
This is clearly going to be a provocative debate but I do believe in fairness to all.
I would first have to question the aforementioned ‘600 onsite parking spaces’ ? May I ask, would the figure given include the Private Hospital Parking which is also situated within the site? I find it hard to believe there are so many spaces available, let alone 600 solely dedicated for staff? May I also highlight the fact there could indeed be more than 600 Staff members including Doctors, Surgeons, Nurses, Pharmacists, Midwives, Healthcare Assistants, Admin Staff, Domestic and Household, Catering, as well as Help Desk and Porters on site at any given time or site. Patients and Visitors park in the Staff Parking bays regularly and are not given tickets. Is this because the Trusts Mission Statement would be called into question? Please don’t get me wrong, I do think there should be AFFORDABLE parking facilities for Staff, Patients and Relatives but as Staff are having to pay twice to enable them to do their job I don’t feel that Parking should be a profitable exercise for others. The Trust need to ensure they support their employees, especially those having to work between sites, i.e., both Wycombe and Stoke Mandeville. This is clearly going to be a provocative debate but I do believe in fairness to all. L1OVE
  • Score: 30

2:46pm Thu 12 Jun 14

J B Blackett says...

'an “aggressive” stance taken by parking wardens'.
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Is that legs apart and arms akimbo ?
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Or perhaps with facial gestures and a spear like the Maoris.
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Having and driving a car is stressful enough in itself without having to cope with over-zealous officials once you reach your destination. Possibly
'an “aggressive” stance taken by parking wardens'. . Is that legs apart and arms akimbo ? . Or perhaps with facial gestures and a spear like the Maoris. . Having and driving a car is stressful enough in itself without having to cope with over-zealous officials once you reach your destination. Possibly J B Blackett
  • Score: 13

6:36pm Thu 12 Jun 14

GC1972 says...

Flackwell wrote:
Like many public services the workers assume they only exist for them rather than their "customers"
Look at it this way:

You have a job that involves going from a base to people's homes. Sometimes you are called to either location in emergency circumstances. To do this you need a car and to park at that base. To park at that base you are charged £20 a month, which is automatically deducted from your salary. However, this does not guarantee a car parking space. In emergency circumstances, you may need to park in an unauthorised area. You will do this to provide medical care as quickly as possible. You will be fined by a private company.

Now tell me how selfish these people are being.
[quote][p][bold]Flackwell[/bold] wrote: Like many public services the workers assume they only exist for them rather than their "customers"[/p][/quote]Look at it this way: You have a job that involves going from a base to people's homes. Sometimes you are called to either location in emergency circumstances. To do this you need a car and to park at that base. To park at that base you are charged £20 a month, which is automatically deducted from your salary. However, this does not guarantee a car parking space. In emergency circumstances, you may need to park in an unauthorised area. You will do this to provide medical care as quickly as possible. You will be fined by a private company. Now tell me how selfish these people are being. GC1972
  • Score: 38

11:37pm Thu 12 Jun 14

11df4c06@opayq.com says...

We are told the car park is now being patrolled 24 hours a day, by a private company, this is not to make sure patients and visitors are able to find somewhere to park, it is targeting staff who are working shifts. There used to be leeway when double parking in the staff car-park if a contact number was left in the car. This is now deemed to be an 'offence' and we are liable for a fine. The Trust are reaping the rewards for fining staff. This is a money grabbing exercise which is rigid in its approach with no thought for staff. We are often traveling from one hospital to another, so arriving early is not an option. We have to pay to use the car park to then incur fines on top of this is unreasonable. When morale is low everyone and everything suffers.
We are told the car park is now being patrolled 24 hours a day, by a private company, this is not to make sure patients and visitors are able to find somewhere to park, it is targeting staff who are working shifts. There used to be leeway when double parking in the staff car-park if a contact number was left in the car. This is now deemed to be an 'offence' and we are liable for a fine. The Trust are reaping the rewards for fining staff. This is a money grabbing exercise which is rigid in its approach with no thought for staff. We are often traveling from one hospital to another, so arriving early is not an option. We have to pay to use the car park to then incur fines on top of this is unreasonable. When morale is low everyone and everything suffers. 11df4c06@opayq.com
  • Score: 22

12:31pm Fri 13 Jun 14

kerlmann says...

Crying out for a park & ride scheme this. Should have incorporated one into the Handy X redevelopment. You could also feasibly have one on the east side and make use of the otherwise empty bus lane on the A40.
Crying out for a park & ride scheme this. Should have incorporated one into the Handy X redevelopment. You could also feasibly have one on the east side and make use of the otherwise empty bus lane on the A40. kerlmann
  • Score: 0

3:52pm Fri 13 Jun 14

PiffleMan says...

Open your eyes sheeple.

If this is a private company enforcing on private land (on behalf of the NHS trust) then they are issuing Parking Charge Notices and they are no more enforceable than many other debts. The company would have to take you to small claims court to actually force you to pay up.

search online for 'Parking Charge Notice' and investigate......
Open your eyes sheeple. If this is a private company enforcing on private land (on behalf of the NHS trust) then they are issuing Parking Charge Notices and they are no more enforceable than many other debts. The company would have to take you to small claims court to actually force you to pay up. search online for 'Parking Charge Notice' and investigate...... PiffleMan
  • Score: 11

8:25pm Fri 13 Jun 14

J.B.1962 says...

I fail to see why we should pay fines when we already pay to park in the grounds. I pay my parking monthly out of my wages. If I cannot get parked in the staff car park, I park the hospital car parks. I do receive fines but never pay, or acknowledge them. This is a Ridiculous situation. The trust take our money knowing full well there is not sufficient parking.
I fail to see why we should pay fines when we already pay to park in the grounds. I pay my parking monthly out of my wages. If I cannot get parked in the staff car park, I park the hospital car parks. I do receive fines but never pay, or acknowledge them. This is a Ridiculous situation. The trust take our money knowing full well there is not sufficient parking. J.B.1962
  • Score: 12

8:57pm Fri 13 Jun 14

11df4c06@opayq.com says...

PiffleMan wrote:
Open your eyes sheeple.

If this is a private company enforcing on private land (on behalf of the NHS trust) then they are issuing Parking Charge Notices and they are no more enforceable than many other debts. The company would have to take you to small claims court to actually force you to pay up.

search online for 'Parking Charge Notice' and investigate......
They ARE taking some members of staff to court
[quote][p][bold]PiffleMan[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes sheeple. If this is a private company enforcing on private land (on behalf of the NHS trust) then they are issuing Parking Charge Notices and they are no more enforceable than many other debts. The company would have to take you to small claims court to actually force you to pay up. search online for 'Parking Charge Notice' and investigate......[/p][/quote]They ARE taking some members of staff to court 11df4c06@opayq.com
  • Score: 2

10:10pm Fri 13 Jun 14

mistlethrush says...

Members of staff have been taken to court, as mentioned in the article. Park and Ride would work for employees who work daytime hours, it would not be feasible for those who work late shifts or for those who work beyond the time their shift should end (a common occurrence). It cannot work for those staff who are called in for emergencies, they do not have the time to wait around for public transport. The persons, essentially the Trust board, who have the power to remedy the ridiculous situation where staff called in urgently, have paid for a parking permit but are unable to find a designated staff parking space, are fined, appear to be either totally ignorant of how some sectors of the service function or deliberately taking money from staff who are purely responding to an emergency summons. Extortion.
Members of staff have been taken to court, as mentioned in the article. Park and Ride would work for employees who work daytime hours, it would not be feasible for those who work late shifts or for those who work beyond the time their shift should end (a common occurrence). It cannot work for those staff who are called in for emergencies, they do not have the time to wait around for public transport. The persons, essentially the Trust board, who have the power to remedy the ridiculous situation where staff called in urgently, have paid for a parking permit but are unable to find a designated staff parking space, are fined, appear to be either totally ignorant of how some sectors of the service function or deliberately taking money from staff who are purely responding to an emergency summons. Extortion. mistlethrush
  • Score: 6

11:27am Mon 16 Jun 14

PiffleMan says...

11df4c06@opayq.com wrote:
PiffleMan wrote:
Open your eyes sheeple.

If this is a private company enforcing on private land (on behalf of the NHS trust) then they are issuing Parking Charge Notices and they are no more enforceable than many other debts. The company would have to take you to small claims court to actually force you to pay up.

search online for 'Parking Charge Notice' and investigate......
They ARE taking some members of staff to court
It says one member of staff was taken to court for £300, but i accept that that doesnt mean that they havent taken others to court.

The cost of taking such claims to court is quite expensive, and uttterly ridiculous an action for an NHS trust to be doing to its OWN staff.

I would suggest getting your union involved.
[quote][p][bold]11df4c06@opayq.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PiffleMan[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes sheeple. If this is a private company enforcing on private land (on behalf of the NHS trust) then they are issuing Parking Charge Notices and they are no more enforceable than many other debts. The company would have to take you to small claims court to actually force you to pay up. search online for 'Parking Charge Notice' and investigate......[/p][/quote]They ARE taking some members of staff to court[/p][/quote]It says one member of staff was taken to court for £300, but i accept that that doesnt mean that they havent taken others to court. The cost of taking such claims to court is quite expensive, and uttterly ridiculous an action for an NHS trust to be doing to its OWN staff. I would suggest getting your union involved. PiffleMan
  • Score: 1

10:33am Wed 2 Jul 14

Ostell says...

They are NOT fines. No private company can issue fines. Go to pepipoo.com to see how to fight them.

The trust are not getting the charges, the private parking company are.
They are NOT fines. No private company can issue fines. Go to pepipoo.com to see how to fight them. The trust are not getting the charges, the private parking company are. Ostell
  • Score: 1

10:42am Wed 2 Jul 14

brimson1 says...

I work for another hospital trust but cover Wycombe Hospital. I was given a free permit but if I arrived late was told to hide the permit. I pay and claim the cost back in my expenses so the NHS pay. I forgot to hide the permit and receive a parking invoice from UK PC. I appealed on NHS headed paper but was turned down. I wrote to my local MP who challenged the invoice but in the mean time I appealed to POPLA. This took 7 months. My local MP was successful in quashing my parking invoice. This took more NHS and parliamentary time than the parking charge notice cost! 90% of people pay up but you can get help at parking forum pepipoo.com
I work for another hospital trust but cover Wycombe Hospital. I was given a free permit but if I arrived late was told to hide the permit. I pay and claim the cost back in my expenses so the NHS pay. I forgot to hide the permit and receive a parking invoice from UK PC. I appealed on NHS headed paper but was turned down. I wrote to my local MP who challenged the invoice but in the mean time I appealed to POPLA. This took 7 months. My local MP was successful in quashing my parking invoice. This took more NHS and parliamentary time than the parking charge notice cost! 90% of people pay up but you can get help at parking forum pepipoo.com brimson1
  • Score: 2

11:36am Wed 2 Jul 14

brimson1 says...

The parking charge is am invoice and not legal. It's contractual agreement so is not law. Usually people will pay up to advoid the hastle. You can find more on twitter to under parking prankster or parking cowboys. Look out for automatic number plate recognition ANPR cameras too on free car parks. Over the free time and you receive a parking invoice. It's not a fine as it's a private company. People need to be aware of this.
The parking charge is am invoice and not legal. It's contractual agreement so is not law. Usually people will pay up to advoid the hastle. You can find more on twitter to under parking prankster or parking cowboys. Look out for automatic number plate recognition ANPR cameras too on free car parks. Over the free time and you receive a parking invoice. It's not a fine as it's a private company. People need to be aware of this. brimson1
  • Score: 1

11:54am Wed 2 Jul 14

brimson1 says...

If a member of staff pays for a permit then pays again to park the hospital and the private parking company in this case UKPC receive even more money. Then they try to slap you with a fine for even more. In this case £30. How do they justify the cost as they haven't lost anything financially they have gained from the second payment. If a staff members partner visits say for a clinic would they get a ticket if they forgot to hide the permit too?
If a member of staff pays for a permit then pays again to park the hospital and the private parking company in this case UKPC receive even more money. Then they try to slap you with a fine for even more. In this case £30. How do they justify the cost as they haven't lost anything financially they have gained from the second payment. If a staff members partner visits say for a clinic would they get a ticket if they forgot to hide the permit too? brimson1
  • Score: 1

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