Pub boss 'can't understand' order to take down lights

Pub boss 'can't understand' order to take down lights

Pub boss 'can't understand' order to take down lights

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A BREWERY boss says he doesn’t understand why his Marlow pub has been told it can't keep its car park lighting, which he says is only there to keep people safe.

Peter Furness-Smith, managing director of McMullen and Sons, which runs Marlow’s Brittania, said the pub should be thanked for pumping money into the building and not penalised.

It comes after Wycombe District Council rejected its application to keep two five-metre LED floodlights in the car park, which were initially put up without permission.

And while the pub company claims the lights are to keep customers safe, planners agreed with neighbours who complained the lights were too bright.

Mr Furness-Smith said: “It seems quite bizarre that they allow you to have a big pub and car park which attracts a wide range and age of customers then make it difficult to have proper lighting.

“Particularly our older guests struggle need a safe environment to park and make their way into the pub and I do not understand it.

“We have taken a really grotty pub and spent lots of money making it into a really welcoming place appreciated by the local community judging by the number of customers we have.

“The neighbours must be delighted compared to what was there before so I don’t understand it at all.”

The Britannia reopened in November 2012 following a £650,000 refit. McMullen also operates Baroosh on the High Street.

The lights were installed over a year ago after complaints about the lack of light in the car park, but McMullen were forced to request retrospective permission to keep them up.

Last week, WDC ruled the lights have an “unacceptable overbearing and visually intrusive impact” on neighbouring residents along Bobmore Lane.

Neighbour Gillian Southon complained to the council that the five-metre high white LED lights shine into her main bedroom and make it difficult to sleep.

She said: “Whilst I realise there is a need for car park safety, I feel that local residents needs would be better served by the floodlights being replaced with lights of a more considerate design, height and light intensity.

“I would strongly urge that local residents be consulted regarding the final design and exact location, since a small change could have a real impact on my day to day life and that of my neighbours.”

Mr Furness-Smith said he the company intends to appeal against the decision.

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5:24pm Tue 1 Jul 14

jayeatman says...

Yet another outbreak of NeverHeardofCurtains
itis. Goodness only knows how they sleep beyond 4am at this time of year. Pesky sun!
Yet another outbreak of NeverHeardofCurtains itis. Goodness only knows how they sleep beyond 4am at this time of year. Pesky sun! jayeatman
  • Score: -3

6:32pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Paris_ says...

Shame the owners of the Britannia didn't consider the neighbours before put them up. I don't think they really care though to be honest.

I live close to the Britannia, but I'm not affected by the lights. However, the noise in the summer makes it difficult to sleep at night. Being woken up at 1:30 am by people still hanging around the tables outside is no fun when you have to get up for work at 5:00 am. When I phoned them them to mention this, their response was people can stay here by law until 1:00 am. I was very polite about it too, but they don't care - it doesn't affect them.
Shame the owners of the Britannia didn't consider the neighbours before put them up. I don't think they really care though to be honest. I live close to the Britannia, but I'm not affected by the lights. However, the noise in the summer makes it difficult to sleep at night. Being woken up at 1:30 am by people still hanging around the tables outside is no fun when you have to get up for work at 5:00 am. When I phoned them them to mention this, their response was people can stay here by law until 1:00 am. I was very polite about it too, but they don't care - it doesn't affect them. Paris_
  • Score: 14

9:29pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Marl25 says...

Seriously! Surely safety is important.
Seriously! Surely safety is important. Marl25
  • Score: -6

7:41am Wed 2 Jul 14

MCarey says...

Typical no thought for the neighbours he only needs to get lights that hang down and everyone is happy
Typical no thought for the neighbours he only needs to get lights that hang down and everyone is happy MCarey
  • Score: 13

11:26am Wed 2 Jul 14

Gaulnut says...

jayeatman wrote:
Yet another outbreak of NeverHeardofCurtains itis. Goodness only knows how they sleep beyond 4am at this time of year. Pesky sun!
Muppet. So you're saying that all the neighbours have to spend their money and replace their curtains with either lined (which still wont block out all the light) or blinds? Erm, no, that is not acceptable. This country is already blighted with light polution, this business just wants to have the cheapest option, there is a reason why these things need planning permission and this is an example of the planning policy working as it should. There are plenty of other options that would work for both parties, the pub will just have to spend a bit more money implementing them.
[quote][p][bold]jayeatman[/bold] wrote: Yet another outbreak of NeverHeardofCurtains itis. Goodness only knows how they sleep beyond 4am at this time of year. Pesky sun![/p][/quote]Muppet. So you're saying that all the neighbours have to spend their money and replace their curtains with either lined (which still wont block out all the light) or blinds? Erm, no, that is not acceptable. This country is already blighted with light polution, this business just wants to have the cheapest option, there is a reason why these things need planning permission and this is an example of the planning policy working as it should. There are plenty of other options that would work for both parties, the pub will just have to spend a bit more money implementing them. Gaulnut
  • Score: 14

12:18pm Wed 2 Jul 14

DeeeKay says...

Gaulnut wrote:
jayeatman wrote:
Yet another outbreak of NeverHeardofCurtains itis. Goodness only knows how they sleep beyond 4am at this time of year. Pesky sun!
Muppet. So you're saying that all the neighbours have to spend their money and replace their curtains with either lined (which still wont block out all the light) or blinds? Erm, no, that is not acceptable. This country is already blighted with light polution, this business just wants to have the cheapest option, there is a reason why these things need planning permission and this is an example of the planning policy working as it should. There are plenty of other options that would work for both parties, the pub will just have to spend a bit more money implementing them.
"So you're saying that all the neighbours have to spend their money and replace their curtains with either lined (which still wont block out all the light) or blinds?" - I don't think jayeatman said that. I think he that was clarified by backing up the statement by quoting the sun.
Surely if these lights are getting through the current curtains then so is the sun. Or are you of the opinion that these lights are brighter than the sun therefore needing new curtains?
[quote][p][bold]Gaulnut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayeatman[/bold] wrote: Yet another outbreak of NeverHeardofCurtains itis. Goodness only knows how they sleep beyond 4am at this time of year. Pesky sun![/p][/quote]Muppet. So you're saying that all the neighbours have to spend their money and replace their curtains with either lined (which still wont block out all the light) or blinds? Erm, no, that is not acceptable. This country is already blighted with light polution, this business just wants to have the cheapest option, there is a reason why these things need planning permission and this is an example of the planning policy working as it should. There are plenty of other options that would work for both parties, the pub will just have to spend a bit more money implementing them.[/p][/quote]"So you're saying that all the neighbours have to spend their money and replace their curtains with either lined (which still wont block out all the light) or blinds?" - I don't think jayeatman said that. I think he that was clarified by backing up the statement by quoting the sun. Surely if these lights are getting through the current curtains then so is the sun. Or are you of the opinion that these lights are brighter than the sun therefore needing new curtains? DeeeKay
  • Score: -7

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