It's just like groundhog day isn't it!

Has anyone seen Bill Murray on the M40 recently...?

Far safer to use the old A40. Maybe not as quick but far fewer accidents.

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Ivor wrote:
Far safer to use the old A40. Maybe not as quick but far fewer accidents. Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “Opinion” link on the menu on the left then click on “Readers Bucks Blog”.

What a great suggestion, it would be safer as no one will be able to move dues to the sheer weight of traffic.

I on the other hand will risk driving on the M40 and will arrive at my destination in record time.

This was a different part of the M40 to where most other accidents have occurred lately.

Delays caused by rubber necking ... and the Bucks Free Press want to know what you saw!

Maybe the BFP could start the Bucks Free Press Rubber Neckers Club.

I think we should blame the trucks. Maybe they were not responsible for this incident, but they annoy the hell out of me when they overtake eachother and take 3 hours doing so. There should be a law where trucks are not allowed to overtake during the morning and evening rush hour periods. This may not reduce the number of accidents, but it will dure as hell make me happy.

The trucks have no place on the roads between 7am and 10pm.

I think we should blame Ivor, I don't have a good reason other than to annoy him

erm wrote:
I think we should blame Ivor, I don't have a good reason other than to annoy him

You can't blame as I don't use the new-fangled M40. It's safer and far more pleasant on the A40. (But unfortunately not as quick!)

Is there anyway to find out the causes of all the accidents that have happened recently? I have no clue how we find that out, but i would like to know what they put each accident down too. Like the accident a couple of months ago, when the lorry went through the barriers in loudwater, killing a few people. What have the police put the cause down too?? We never seem to hear about that. I live by the m40 and daily sirens is a daily thing now to be heard. It has always been a bad motorway for accidents, but this is getting stupid. Something needs to be done. OBVIOUSLY! Cone on WDC, get to work on this motorway,before anyone else gets killed.

Thomas the Tank Engine used to blame the trucks for all his problems too. They were so naughty :-)

Seriously though, they could perhaps extend cctv coverage. I'm sure it doesnt cost that much and would at least give a chance of seeing what went wrong.

Ivor wrote:

erm wrote: I think we should blame Ivor, I don't have a good reason other than to annoy him

You can't blame as I don't use the new-fangled M40. It's safer and far more pleasant on the A40. (But unfortunately not as quick!)

If you don't use the M40, please do us all a favour and when a story is written that is solely about the M40 shut the hell up.... if you have no first hand experience of it and no interest in using it then it doesn't concern you!

On another point i'm not sure how the A40 can be described as nice, it travels straight through the armpit of Bucks, High Wycombe or Why Come? as it's otherwise known.

Yet another Beaconsfield snob slagging off HW! Why live in Bucks at all if you have such a hang over about living so close to such a sh*t hole?

Understandably Beaconsfield is so superior, with its vodka bar, model village...and....wha
t else is there in Beaconsfield? Do you want a Tesco? Go on Tesco, please!

So what idylic towns do Beaconsfield residents visit? Slough, Uxbridge, Watford, Reading? Such better places than HW of course.

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spiderpig wrote:
Yet another Beaconsfield snob slagging off HW! Why live in Bucks at all if you have such a hang over about living so close to such a sh*t hole? Understandably Beaconsfield is so superior, with its vodka bar, model village...and....wha t else is there in Beaconsfield? Do you want a Tesco? Go on Tesco, please! So what idylic towns do Beaconsfield residents visit? Slough, Uxbridge, Watford, Reading? Such better places than HW of course.

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Why live in Bucks?

Because it has many nice places, High Wycombe is not one of them.

Do I visit Slough? Yes, if I need to get something from one of the many car dealers, wholesalers or superstores on the bath road it's very useful. I wouldn't want to live there though.
Uxbridge, no I’ve never needed to go there.
Watford, yes it has a very large shopping centre that caters to many tastes. I also wouldn't want to live there.
Reading, yes every day in fact. I work there and find that it's both good for shopping as well as having some decent nightlife.
Beaconsfield has many nice restaurants, pubs, some small shops, a very good Sainsbury, everything you could need nearby.
Do we want Tesco's? Not really considering we have the Loudwater one round the corner.

Wycombe on the other hand has a small number of chain pubs populated with a mixture of Whino's spending their benefits, underage chav's looking for a fights and students that haven't managed to get into a proper university. The shops are fine if you only buy your clothes from topman and Next i suppose. The supermarkets are in such a bad state I wouldn't consider eating anything that came from there rat infested aisles. Finally Wycombe has Club EdenPureCall it what you like it's still a toilet. Can you give one reason why Why-come would not be considered a sh*thole?

Do I have a "hang over" about Wycombe?

No I find I can get everything it offers better else where, so have no reason to ever go there.

Do I think the new development will change Wycombe?

It could do, but only if it is not dragged down to the same dismal state the rest of the town is in by the residents. I doubt it.

Ive just read on the traffic update site that theres been another accident at J3 (West Beaconsfield).

It's safer and far more pleasant on the A40. (But unfortunately not as quick!)

you use it even with all the traffic lights?

erm wrote:

It's safer and far more pleasant on the A40. (But unfortunately not as quick!)

you use it even with all the traffic lights?

As I know Wycombe like the back of my hand I can use the back roads to bypass the area around the complex thus avoiding the lights!

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Edy wrote:
Ive just read on the traffic update site that theres been another accident at J3 (West Beaconsfield).

My husband was on the scene of the accident shortly after it happened - it was between a foreign lorry and a car. Traffic was held up but luckily for him he was on a motorbike and able to filter through the traffic. One bonus of being on a motorbike!!

davejones wrote:

spiderpig wrote:
Yet another Beaconsfield snob slagging off HW! Why live in Bucks at all if you have such a hang over about living so close to such a sh*t hole? Understandably Beaconsfield is so superior, with its vodka bar, model village...and....wha t else is there in Beaconsfield? Do you want a Tesco? Go on Tesco, please! So what idylic towns do Beaconsfield residents visit? Slough, Uxbridge, Watford, Reading? Such better places than HW of course.

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Why live in Bucks?

Because it has many nice places, High Wycombe is not one of them.

Do I visit Slough? Yes, if I need to get something from one of the many car dealers, wholesalers or superstores on the bath road it's very useful. I wouldn't want to live there though.
Uxbridge, no I’ve never needed to go there.
Watford, yes it has a very large shopping centre that caters to many tastes. I also wouldn't want to live there.
Reading, yes every day in fact. I work there and find that it's both good for shopping as well as having some decent nightlife.
Beaconsfield has many nice restaurants, pubs, some small shops, a very good Sainsbury, everything you could need nearby.
Do we want Tesco's? Not really considering we have the Loudwater one round the corner.

Wycombe on the other hand has a small number of chain pubs populated with a mixture of Whino's spending their benefits, underage chav's looking for a fights and students that haven't managed to get into a proper university. The shops are fine if you only buy your clothes from topman and Next i suppose. The supermarkets are in such a bad state I wouldn't consider eating anything that came from there rat infested aisles. Finally Wycombe has Club EdenPureCall it what you like it's still a toilet. Can you give one reason why Why-come would not be considered a sh*thole?

Do I have a "hang over" about Wycombe?

No I find I can get everything it offers better else where, so have no reason to ever go there.

Do I think the new development will change Wycombe?

It could do, but only if it is not dragged down to the same dismal state the rest of the town is in by the residents. I doubt it.

Sounds like someone is being a snob.
I come from Marlow, a much nicer place than Beaconsfield in my opinion. And it is only my opinion.
Yet i live in a rural village now on the outskirts of Wycombe. I had a very privileged childhood,
yet I certainly would never judge a whole town like you do. Maybe stick to the topic and stop being a pompous snobby person who lets the other people from
Beaconsfield down.
Honestly some people just have their heads so far up themselves, its frightening sometimes.
Back on topic, Its clear something needs to be done about high Wycombe traffic, and at least some contingency plan,
when an accident does happen. As the whole of the town comes to a standstill.
I would like to pose a thought to wdc, what happens if the next victim on the motorway is someone from your own family or indeed you?Please do the right thing.and enforce some sort of measures.
Now i remember when they were making Loudwater part of the m40 wider, a couple of years ago, they had temp' speed camera's there, it certainly made the traffic slower, and i don't remember many reports of accidents. Just a thought?

Helen, what a load of drivel!

You state "Now i remember when they were making Loudwater part of the m40 wider, a couple of years ago, they had temp' speed camera's there, it certainly made the traffic slower, and i don't remember many reports of accidents. Just a thought?"

Somewhat of a contradiction don't you think? What is it, do you remember or don't you? Do you have evidence, or do you not? What possessed you to come up with such a misleading statement? What's your agenda for using such a fallacious argument? Answers please!

people driving to close to everybody not keeping to the 2 sec rule, - speeding, theres the issue

Aha, fog on the M40 this morning, did anybody slow down?.....no!! However, on the other extreme, driver of KL57 *** Mazda 3, yes you have in fact proved that your rear fog lights are INCREDIBLY bright and do you know, when you can see at least 300 metres ahead of you, you don't need them on?!! Thanks for dazzling me in that queue of traffic from Loudwater to the M25!! Seeing as it was stop start you really didn't need those fog lights on. Totally ridiculous.

wayne wrote:
Helen, what a load of drivel!

You state "Now i remember when they were making Loudwater part of the m40 wider, a couple of years ago, they had temp' speed camera's there, it certainly made the traffic slower, and i don't remember many reports of accidents. Just a thought?"

Somewhat of a contradiction don't you think? What is it, do you remember or don't you? Do you have evidence, or do you not? What possessed you to come up with such a misleading statement? What's your agenda for using such a fallacious argument? Answers please!

Now Wayne, I do remember, because I used to commute to Heathrow everyday, as for evidence you would have to check news archives. But where is the contradiction there? Do you know what the word means?

Helens - I do not understand why you were accused of contradicting yourself either.......to me your post was plain and simple to understand.....hopef
ully we will be enlightened with an answer!

helens wrote:

davejones wrote:

spiderpig wrote: Yet another Beaconsfield snob slagging off HW! Why live in Bucks at all if you have such a hang over about living so close to such a sh*t hole? Understandably Beaconsfield is so superior, with its vodka bar, model village...and....wha t else is there in Beaconsfield? Do you want a Tesco? Go on Tesco, please! So what idylic towns do Beaconsfield residents visit? Slough, Uxbridge, Watford, Reading? Such better places than HW of course.

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Why live in Bucks? Because it has many nice places, High Wycombe is not one of them. Do I visit Slough? Yes, if I need to get something from one of the many car dealers, wholesalers or superstores on the bath road it's very useful. I wouldn't want to live there though. Uxbridge, no I’ve never needed to go there. Watford, yes it has a very large shopping centre that caters to many tastes. I also wouldn't want to live there. Reading, yes every day in fact. I work there and find that it's both good for shopping as well as having some decent nightlife. Beaconsfield has many nice restaurants, pubs, some small shops, a very good Sainsbury, everything you could need nearby. Do we want Tesco's? Not really considering we have the Loudwater one round the corner. Wycombe on the other hand has a small number of chain pubs populated with a mixture of Whino's spending their benefits, underage chav's looking for a fights and students that haven't managed to get into a proper university. The shops are fine if you only buy your clothes from topman and Next i suppose. The supermarkets are in such a bad state I wouldn't consider eating anything that came from there rat infested aisles. Finally Wycombe has Club EdenPureCall it what you like it's still a toilet. Can you give one reason why Why-come would not be considered a sh*thole? Do I have a "hang over" about Wycombe? No I find I can get everything it offers better else where, so have no reason to ever go there. Do I think the new development will change Wycombe? It could do, but only if it is not dragged down to the same dismal state the rest of the town is in by the residents. I doubt it.

Sounds like someone is being a snob. I come from Marlow, a much nicer place than Beaconsfield in my opinion. And it is only my opinion. Yet i live in a rural village now on the outskirts of Wycombe. I had a very privileged childhood, yet I certainly would never judge a whole town like you do. Maybe stick to the topic and stop being a pompous snobby person who lets the other people from Beaconsfield down. Honestly some people just have their heads so far up themselves, its frightening sometimes. Back on topic, Its clear something needs to be done about high Wycombe traffic, and at least some contingency plan, when an accident does happen. As the whole of the town comes to a standstill. I would like to pose a thought to wdc, what happens if the next victim on the motorway is someone from your own family or indeed you?Please do the right thing.and enforce some sort of measures. Now i remember when they were making Loudwater part of the m40 wider, a couple of years ago, they had temp' speed camera's there, it certainly made the traffic slower, and i don't remember many reports of accidents. Just a thought?

Helen, first of all I don't agree that Marlow is nicer then Beaconsfield, but you are entitled to your opinion.
My opinion is that Wycombe is a dump and I’m entitled to that.
I wasn't the person who started the discussion on the negatives/positives of our respective towns, that would be spiderpig.

Your comments about your privileged childhood meaning you would not judge a whole town have baffled me. Do under-privileged children judge whole towns?

Anyway, I didn't make the connection between wealth and how nice a town is, you don't have to be rich to live in either Beaconsfield or Marlow.

Anyway back to the topic, your comments on the speed cameras that were in place during the road widening while valid, lack any proof. Not all accidents on the motorway are reported in the press and you've offered no evidence of a lower number of accidents other then you don't remember many happening. In the same way I don't remember many accidents happening during June 1996, so maybe we should stage the European Championship again to increase road safety?

There is nothing wrong with the M40, It's just that the south-east is too overcrowded. We are full.
If you think roads around Wycombe are bad now just wait until the ridiculous new shopping centre opens. Personally I'm moving away. Can't afford to lose at least an hour a day trying to get to work.