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Councillor tells of Chesham woman's ordeal


A SHOPPER was left lying in a car park in the rain waiting for an ambulance for more than an hour, a councillor told a shocked NHS meeting today.

Although a motorbike paramedic arrived swiftly to the scene of the fall, in Chesham, the woman had to wait to be taken to hospital, they were told.

An NHS manager said the account, from Chiltern District Council member Noel Brown, was “not acceptable”.

The longest any patient should wait for an ambulance is 19 minutes, irrespective of the seriousness of the call.

It came as the meeting was told ambulance services were not performing well enough in Buckinghamshire, despite getting above-inflation cash settlements.

Councillor Brown, who attended today’s meeting of Buckinghamshire NHS Primary Care Trust as a member of the public, drew gasps as he told the story from other residents.

He said: “I was in the presence of someone who had had an accident and fallen down and, initially, we thought it might be a heart attack.

“They got a rapid response there. This poor woman was left lying in the public car park in the pouring rain for over an hour before there was an ambulance, which came from Aylesbury in the end.”

The fall happened in High Street and a motorbike paramedic was first on the scene, he told the Bucks Free Press.

Interim director of commissioning at the PCT Colin Thompson said: “That is not acceptable. That is not what we want to see for Buckinghamshire.”

Stewart George, chairman of the PCT, which dishes out NHS cash in the county, said the authority had made it “quite clear that we were unhappy about the contract performance” for ambulance services.

He and PCT chief executive Ed Macalister-Smith are to meet their counterparts at South Central Ambulance Service, which manages the 999 service, to discuss their concerns.

This afternoon’s meeting, in Aylesbury, was told only 66 per cent of ambulances are getting to the most serious calls in the county within the target time of eight minutes. The target is 75 per cent.

And board members expressed dismay that the service was not hitting targets despite the PCT putting in “above inflation” cash settlements.

The rural nature of south Buckinghamshire in particular has often been cited as a reason for the ambulance service’s problems in hitting the target.

Paramedic bosses have said changes to how the target is measured has made their job tougher.

Under new rules the target clock starts ticking as soon as the 999 call is connected to the control room, whereas before it was active from when the call was sent to an ambulance crew. This adds vital minutes to the response time.

Last month the ambulance service got a sceptical response from the PCT after putting forward radical proposals to meet the target.

This included different responses to urban and rural areas. This would see, for example, a paramedic sent in a response car sent to assess a patient in a rural area who would then decide if they needed an ambulance to take them to hospital (see link, right).


Comments(7)

Melanie1 says...
5:47pm Tue 25 Nov 08

How can it have taken an hour for an ambulance to arrive and why did the ambulance come from Aylesbury when there is an ambulance station 2 miles away in Amersham?

Absolutely disgusting.

Slacker says...
6:21pm Tue 25 Nov 08

An HOUR?? I am outraged. If a fast response paramedic calls for an ambulance then this call must be treated as a priority as the person has been assessed by a professional.

This needs to be sorted out urgently otherwise people will die.

To add to that, I assume that the fast response paramedic stayed with the lady for the hour wait. That is an hour where that paramedic is taken off the road and not available for any other calls.

SDJones says...
7:41pm Tue 25 Nov 08

Bucks is really not that rural anymore!

mr. magoo says...
7:56pm Tue 25 Nov 08

why?? there has been no reason (or excuse) offered to explain why it took so long.

where was the ambulance that should've gone to the lady??
did we suddenly have an influx of 999 calls for ambulances all at the same time??!

where were they??
i think we need to know.

Little Miss says...
12:00pm Wed 26 Nov 08

This is DISGUSTING, poor woman. This is the kind of service we get for paying our National Insurance money every month?

Catflap says...
3:53pm Wed 26 Nov 08

The Ambulance station at Amersham is a private ambulance service not NHS. The fact that alot of ambulances now have to travel to Stoke means they take longer to transport a patient and therefore are not available as quickly as they would be if they were going to Wycombe. Little Miss may like to know that only a fraction of NI contributions go towards the NHS, the rest goes towards state benefits and pension fund.

Little Miss says...
5:12pm Thu 27 Nov 08

Thanks for clearing that up Catflap.

I still think it is disgusting that this woman lay in the rain for more than an hour. God help anyone who suffers a heart attack or something similar if these are the waiting times.


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