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8:04pm Wednesday 11th March 2009 in
AXED Holywell Mead outdoor swimming pool could be run at a profit if it opened all year round and had a roof built over it, a swimming leader told campaigners tonight.
Neil Bailey, chairman of Wycombe Swimming Action Group, said a membership scheme and rebuilt toddlers pool could attract more visitors to keep open the facility, by The Rye.
He told supporters outraged by Wycombe District Council’s decision to pull funding that anyone who took it over would have to “widen the net and lower the price”.
About 20 people met by the poolside this evening as part of a push by the council’s Liberal Democrat opposition to find another way of keeping the pool open.
The council – which opened the pool in for four months in the summer – argued the facility was under-used and cost too much to maintain.
Mr Bailey, who said he is working with four county schools to keep their pools open, said: “There is a demand for this kind of facility.
“We need a political push and we need to get this thing commercial. If it is not commercial it will not be sustainable.”
Lessons, private hire and a £50 membership scheme could net the pool £250,000 a year, he told the 5.30pm gathering.
The council said the pool would cost £66,000 a year to run and £60,000 over five years to make essential repairs.
Mr Bailey said the roof would “roll back” and a similar pool at Hampton Pool, Hampton Palace, London had prospered.
He said: “They make money in the summer. They break even every month of every year. There are a thousand people in the pool on Christmas Day.”
Yet the toddler pool is a “waste of space” he said and needed a roof and deepening to a metre instead of 0.4m to attract visitors, he said.
Mr Bailey said: “If you look at the difference between pools that make money and break even and those which make a loss, it is all about the customer experience.
“If it is fantastic, if they love it then they buy food and bring their kids down here and spend a lot of time down here.”
Stuart Brown, 38, of Arundel Road, Sands, High Wycombe told the group: “Very few people know about it, what advertising have they done? We found it by accident when we moved here.”
His wife, Louise, also 38, said: “When I discovered it I was over the moon. We did literally stumble across it.”
Sally Baggs, from Court Lawns, Penn, told Bucks Free Press: “I was at Hampton Court on Sunday and it was absolutely heaving. You could get lots of people here.”
And Lyn Simmonds, 53, of Purssells Meadow, Naphill said: “I hope this will make a difference. We have enough enthusiastic people.”
Yet Lib Dem district councillor Trevor Snaith said a plan had to be drawn up quickly.
He said if the council took the pumping units for the pool out of the adjacent Environment Centre then “we are well and truly stuffed”.
Councillor Julia Wassell, who is leading the Lib Dem campaign, has said the pool could be run by a charity, similar to one which kept open Micklefield Library after Buckinghamshire County Council funding was pulled.
She told the group: “We have to make sure we have an option ready [for the council] very very quickly.
“It has a lot of potential done in a different way.”
Some of the people who attended the meeting agreed to then form a committee to drive the plan forward.
Comments(38)
chris740
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8:39pm Wed 11 Mar 09
Save Wycombe
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8:53pm Wed 11 Mar 09
smiley cat wrote:Politics touches everything. People who are politically motivated are people who care enough to try and change things. Comments like yours suggest you have a downer on politicians in general - which is unfair on the ones who work hard for their community.
I would be a lot happier if this were not politically motivated.
Good luck to them but I hope that it is not too high a price to pay..
smiley cat
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8:57pm Wed 11 Mar 09
Save Wycombe wrote:Okay
smiley cat wrote: I would be a lot happier if this were not politically motivated. Good luck to them but I hope that it is not too high a price to pay..Politics touches everything. People who are politically motivated are people who care enough to try and change things. Comments like yours suggest you have a downer on politicians in general - which is unfair on the ones who work hard for their community.
Farmer Pickles
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9:02pm Wed 11 Mar 09
Farmer Pickles
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9:05pm Wed 11 Mar 09
smiley cat wrote:Julia was "here there and everywhere saving the world" long before she joined the Lib Dems.
Save Wycombe wrote:Okay I know I am cynical but let me throw something in here and feel free to shoot me down.. Julia Wassell was a labour councillor. Labour aren't big in Bucks. She switched her allegience to lib dems who are slightly more successful and suddenly she is here there and everywhere saving the world. Now a cynical person may question her motives - I know I do..smiley cat wrote: I would be a lot happier if this were not politically motivated. Good luck to them but I hope that it is not too high a price to pay..Politics touches everything. People who are politically motivated are people who care enough to try and change things. Comments like yours suggest you have a downer on politicians in general - which is unfair on the ones who work hard for their community.
sammy annie
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9:20pm Wed 11 Mar 09
Farmer Pickles wrote:I dont really care what Julia's motives are. She was there trying to keep the pool open. That is what I care about.
smiley cat wrote:Julia was "here there and everywhere saving the world" long before she joined the Lib Dems.
Save Wycombe wrote:Okay I know I am cynical but let me throw something in here and feel free to shoot me down.. Julia Wassell was a labour councillor. Labour aren't big in Bucks. She switched her allegience to lib dems who are slightly more successful and suddenly she is here there and everywhere saving the world. Now a cynical person may question her motives - I know I do..smiley cat wrote: I would be a lot happier if this were not politically motivated. Good luck to them but I hope that it is not too high a price to pay..Politics touches everything. People who are politically motivated are people who care enough to try and change things. Comments like yours suggest you have a downer on politicians in general - which is unfair on the ones who work hard for their community.
ivor
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10:03pm Wed 11 Mar 09
smiley cat
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10:12pm Wed 11 Mar 09
Farmer Pickles wrote:THANK YOU!!!
I am also concerned that the campaign is seen as a Lib Dem thing. There is a danger that Tory voters (of which there are a lot in Wycombe!) will be put off supporting this for fear of being seen to support the Lib Dems. I fear that if the Lib Dem lot use it to push their agenda too far then they wil end up shooting themselves in the foot and fail to secure enoyugh support from the community. We can all see which local councillors are doin their bit for the community without having to have it spelled out in political spin.
smiley cat
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10:14pm Wed 11 Mar 09
ivor wrote:And that Ivor , is a very good question - I just think it is all a little airy fairy if you get my meaning..
Let’s hope the pool can be saved. If there are some people who say the pool can be run at a profit why on earth can’t the Council manage to run it at a profit rather than closing it? Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “YOUR SAY” link at the top of the page then click on “BLOGS”.
yog
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10:58pm Wed 11 Mar 09
towncryer
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11:06pm Wed 11 Mar 09
yog wrote:I'm pleased to see People power is coming to the fore
I am pleased that we have still got residents in this Town who are prepared to stand up and fight for their local services. There is hope for Wycombe after all. Now if WDC want some positive news then they should meet with these campaigners at the earliest opportunity and give them their backing to take over the running of the pool.
smiley cat
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11:16pm Wed 11 Mar 09
smiley cat
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11:19pm Wed 11 Mar 09
green damage limitation
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11:25pm Wed 11 Mar 09
green damage limitation
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11:29pm Wed 11 Mar 09
smiley cat wrote:seems we also have negativity from Smiley cat -- park the politics smiley !!!
Oh and 20 people - come on. Do you REALLY think that is going to make any difference. If people were bothered then more would have turned up. 20 people - laughable.
smiley cat
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12:01am Thu 12 Mar 09
green damage limitation wrote:I can't.
smiley cat wrote: Oh and 20 people - come on. Do you REALLY think that is going to make any difference. If people were bothered then more would have turned up. 20 people - laughable.seems we also have negativity from Smiley cat -- park the politics smiley !!! Lets applaud the group for their community spirit
yog
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12:11am Thu 12 Mar 09
green damage limitation wrote:Exactly. The negativity of smiley cat is unbelievable. She should be applauding the efforts of local people to stand up for their community.
smiley cat wrote:seems we also have negativity from Smiley cat -- park the politics smiley !!!
Oh and 20 people - come on. Do you REALLY think that is going to make any difference. If people were bothered then more would have turned up. 20 people - laughable.
Lets applaud the group for their community spirit
smiley cat
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12:47am Thu 12 Mar 09
yog wrote:20 people - that is all.
green damage limitation wrote:Exactly. The negativity of smiley cat is unbelievable. She should be applauding the efforts of local people to stand up for their community. It is very welcome and hopefully more will feel empowered to get involved in their communities.smiley cat wrote: Oh and 20 people - come on. Do you REALLY think that is going to make any difference. If people were bothered then more would have turned up. 20 people - laughable.seems we also have negativity from Smiley cat -- park the politics smiley !!! Lets applaud the group for their community spirit
The Judge
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7:05am Thu 12 Mar 09
yog
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7:58am Thu 12 Mar 09
Regular Poster
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8:06am Thu 12 Mar 09
smiley cat
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8:29am Thu 12 Mar 09
yog wrote:As per usual Yog puts his on her own spin on this.
It seems there are a few people on here who do not want to see local people fighting for their local services. I wonder why?
green damage limitation
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8:54am Thu 12 Mar 09
Save Wycombe
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8:59am Thu 12 Mar 09
smiley cat
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9:15am Thu 12 Mar 09
Save Wycombe wrote:Oh I know I appear negative and not wanting the best for HW. I am suspicious of their motives.
Maybe the opposition councillors could meet Smiley Cat for a coffee one day - then she might be able to find out if they really are two-headed monsters! The ones I've met all seem to be genuine individuals who want to make things better in Wycombe (and no, I'm not a councillor!)
Steve Totteridge Hill
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9:22am Thu 12 Mar 09
ntappin
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10:00am Thu 12 Mar 09
irish john
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10:07am Thu 12 Mar 09
Plus ça change...
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10:20am Thu 12 Mar 09
towncryer
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11:35am Thu 12 Mar 09
smiley cat wrote:I bet in retrospect Cllr Clarke and Cllr Green wish they could get some positive messages on their campaign literature --
Save Wycombe wrote: Maybe the opposition councillors could meet Smiley Cat for a coffee one day - then she might be able to find out if they really are two-headed monsters! The ones I've met all seem to be genuine individuals who want to make things better in Wycombe (and no, I'm not a councillor!)Oh I know I appear negative and not wanting the best for HW. I am suspicious of their motives. Lets see what happens when local elections come around. IF they launch their camplaign without mentioning their involvement in the pool, maybe then I will be convinced. But I doubt it somehow....
Craig....
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12:56pm Thu 12 Mar 09
Red Fred
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1:15pm Thu 12 Mar 09
Save Wycombe
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1:18pm Thu 12 Mar 09
smiley cat wrote:Smiley Cat, with respect, you are not living in the real world! I would expect all parties to state in the next election campaign why we should vote for them. Surely that would include all of the positive things that their members and councillors have done? In particular, voters need to see the differences between the parties when deciding who to vote for. Since there is a stark difference between the position of the parties on the issue of Holywell Mead - they would be foolish not to remind voters of this. The alternative (your alternative) is to accept that the status quo in Wycombe is all that we have and nothing can ever change. What a depressing thought! Three cheers for those who give up their time to campaign for change.
Save Wycombe wrote:Oh I know I appear negative and not wanting the best for HW. I am suspicious of their motives.
Maybe the opposition councillors could meet Smiley Cat for a coffee one day - then she might be able to find out if they really are two-headed monsters! The ones I've met all seem to be genuine individuals who want to make things better in Wycombe (and no, I'm not a councillor!)
Lets see what happens when local elections come around.
IF they launch their camplaign without mentioning their involvement in the pool, maybe then I will be convinced.
But I doubt it somehow....
bakerbill
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3:24pm Fri 13 Mar 09
Neil Bailey Save Holywell Mead Pool
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11:36am Sat 14 Mar 09
pompwatch
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6:19pm Sat 14 Mar 09
victoria_stopps
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5:30pm Sun 15 Mar 09
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smiley cat says...
8:18pm Wed 11 Mar 09
Good luck to them but I hope that it is not too high a price to pay..