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Buckinghamshire school catchment areas "are ridiculous"


SCHOOL catchment areas should be scrapped, watchdog members said, as a “radical review” of boundaries gets underway.

Two members of a council committee called for catchment areas to go as out-of-county children get places and parents can choose Schools and fight appeals.

Yet schools bosses said the boundaries were vital to keep schools local and few county children got places. They also ruled out abolishing the grammar system.

Conservative-run Buckinghamshire County Council has launched a review of catchment areas, the first since 2003, to tackle problems with over-subscribed schools.

A fall in the number of children in south Bucks is a driver for the review.

Liberal Democrat councillor Avril Davies said: “I am wondering if catchment areas are really a thing of the past.”

She said the 14-19 curriculum was shifting the focus.

Cllr Davies said: “Catchment areas are ridiculous considering parental preference, appeals and also so many children from other counties are educated in our system.”

And Michael Moore, representing the Catholic Diocese of Northampton, said: “I would scrub catchment areas. We have the fall-back of distance anyway.

“Appeals are just a nightmare. It would be so much easier to abandon [catchment areas] for the secondary sector.”

Yet Cllr Marion Clayton, who is responsible for schools, said: “Please don’t run away with the idea that our schools are full of out-of-county children displacing our children. It is simply not the case.”

She said: “They are simply a good way we can offer as many parents as possible their first preference school.

“We will never ever get to the stage where we can please 100 per cent of the parents with a first preference school. That is an impossible demand, I don’t think there is a local education authority that can do that.”

The review will be conducted by independent education consultant Alan Parker who will be given a “blank piece of paper” to take “carte blanche” with catchment areas, she said.

Schools could form “minor federations” so 14-19 students can take classes at different schools, Cllr Clayton said.

And she said the cost and logistics of transporting children to school by bus is “not a leading driver in this review”.

Promising a “radical” review she said: “I would like to see the number of appeals reduced. We are trying to do the very best we can for the families and children of Buckinghamshire.”

Factors to be considered included more children in north Bucks as more houses are built and more independently educated youngsters going to state schools because of the recession, she said.

But Cllr Clayton said: “Buckinghamshire has no intention of doing away with it’s selective system. It is obviously effective in Buckinghamshire.”

Council admissions manager Debbie Munday further defended catchment areas to the council’s overview and scrutiny commissioning committee.

She said they are a “tool” to decide which children get places.

For example, children from the Chalfonts, Seer Green and Gerrards Cross would have less of a chance than children from Chorleywood to get into the Challoner’s schools in Amersham without catchment areas, she said.

Mrs Munday said: “It allows us to say ‘these are the children that these schools are serving, not the ones over there’.”

Yet she said: “If we had an opportunity for a clean sheet of paper we wouldn’t put the schools where they are.”

Earlier this year the council agreed to expand the catchment areas of Royal Grammar School, High Wycombe to include Prestwood and the town’s John Hampden Grammar to include Gerrards Cross and Denham (see links, below).

The public will have the opportunity to give their views to the latest review, Cllr Clayton told Bucks Free Press.


Comments(9)

giant says...
8:25am Mon 14 Sep 09

I can’t imagine waiting listings for Cressex or High Crest. Wycombe High has been struggling to fill the numbers for past several years so people from other towns will help.

Without catchment areas schools like Cressex will fail to get the numbers required.

Catflap says...
8:42am Mon 14 Sep 09

I can't speak for Cressex but Highcrest DOES have a waiting list.
JHGS & WHS are next to each other but have different catchment area's which seems very odd. As for WHS struggling to fill numbers, that is a load of rubbish. WHS have filled Year 7 entry for the last 3 years and are full or over numbers on each year. Check with County if in doubt.




bakerbill says...
9:56am Mon 14 Sep 09

This is just a sly way way of racially mixing the school population by indulging in social engineering it will cause widespread resentment
and more people home educating there children , the local children will not get to know each over because they all go to different schools
and the carbon footprint busing the kids around will go sky high.

DeepThinker says...
10:12am Mon 14 Sep 09

Scrap the catchment areas?
Brilliant idea.
Even more parents will want their children to go to a school that isn't their local/nearest one. (The grass always looks greener, etc)
Every morning thousands of children will be taken from one side of town to the other in cars because they aren't quite far enough away to get a bus pass. Gridlock. (It's almost like that now.)
At the moment parents put down a list of preferences. Many don't get their first choice, especially as each year there are those schools who are "in" and those that are not. Some do not end up in their second or third choice school.
The system doesn't have free choice ... for many it is simply the luck of the draw, but the politicians (of all persuasions) like to promote the idea that the voters have "parental choice" when it comes to choosing a school for their children.
There are a large number of children entering secondary school with the "knowledge" that the school isn't very good because their parents said so and wanted them to go to another. They hear them say which they think are the best and which are the worst and the kids pick up on this.
Many headteachers will tell you that they have to spend time trying to get it onto the children's heads that they can do well in their school if they want to. Some parents and children have almost written off their chances once the selection has been made.
Add to this similar thoughts and feelings when a child "fails" the 11+ and you get many disaffected young students.
A couple of other things.
1. The council DON'T publish pass rates for 11+. They say that over 30% of children are educated in grammar schools, which is a different thing entirely. This figure includes the sixth forms, by which time many children have either left school altogether or gone on to colleges (which aren't counted as schools).
2. Don't believe the numbers that say how many children got into their first choice schools. These are manipulated too.
Unfortunately we live in a world where "parental choice" was introduced as a gimmick to get votes.(The Tories introduced it years ago).
Now our children's education is used as a political football and vote catcher and the best interests of the children come way down the list.
(Before you ask, I have been involved in Education for over 25 years, I have published books on education and have written theses on the subject (including catchment areas and 11+ selection). i have also sat as an invited independent on several Government and opposition think-tanks. (Hence my dislike for political intervention for the sake of politics - not education.)

giant says...
10:25am Mon 14 Sep 09

Catflap I misquoted myself. I meant to say “Wycombe High School fails to get sufficient numbers from its catchment area. Therefore removing catchment areas would help; also quality of students entering the school would improve.

Catflap says...
11:30am Mon 14 Sep 09

the problem is that the boys grammar schools are both on the same side of town, however girls grammars are in HW and beaconsfield therefor the catchment area is split to take that into account. There is still no rhym or reason to allocations though. the whole thing is is a bureaucratic nightmare. the other thing to consider is that by changing the catchment areas students eligibality for free transport will also change. basically, the smaller the catchment area the less Bucks CC have to pay in travel costs for students

Angela M says...
11:56am Mon 14 Sep 09

I was lucky - both my primary and secondary schools were less than 20 minutes walk away. My husband's grammar school was a half-hour drive.

I think it's ridiculous how many children are ferried about across counties just to go to a different school. Local people should come first. Without catchment areas surely more children would be forced to commute long distances - because non-local children are taking up the places at their local school.

In an ideal world every family's workplace/schools/co
lleges/shops would be within a short walking distance of their house.

giant says...
12:19pm Mon 14 Sep 09

I fully support Grammar schools. WHS and RGS provide free education on par and often better standard than fee paying school. Every parent strives to do the best for their children, sadly majority of secondary schools in the locality fail to provide adequate education.
Unfortunately demographics don’t help certain schools, in some cases English is not the first language, teachers spend far too much time on those in need and as a consequence rest of the class suffers, recent surge of migration from other parts of the world doesn’t help either. Also, high caliber students end up in grammar schools so I am afraid this bias will continue indefinitely.
Parents of unsuccessful 11+ children in High Wycombe have a dilemma where to send their children. A friend of mine sent her child to Great Marlow because she thought this school was better than Cressex and High Crest.

All in all Wycombe is quite successful in providing decent education because Grammar schools success negates failure of the likes of Cressex.
Before any of you start grumbling Grammar schools are open to all with adequate ability.


Lividov says...
3:41pm Mon 14 Sep 09

all change ... again!


School places review as Hampden catchment widened The catchment of John Hampden Grammar in High Wycombe was widened in the last review

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