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Stadium decision behind closed doors tonight


COUNCIL bosses are to press ahead with the search for a new home for Adams Park stadium – and have pledged a full public consultation.

A study found moving the Sands stadium is “viable” and there is a “reasonable chance” of it happening by 2014 as desired by Wycombe Wanderers and London Wasps.

Yet Wycombe District Council chiefs have been slammed for moving to discuss the issue behind closed doors.

A total £500,000 of council cash has been set aside for “feasibility” studies into the move.

It previously said council-owned Wycombe Air Park in Clay Lane, Booker is an option – but would not say what the study had found as it is “commercially sensitive”.

Ruling Conservative cabinet members will be asked in private to “start the process required to formally identify a proposed relocation site and seek to get a scheme consented” a statement to the Bucks Free Press said.

The WDC statement added: “This would enable full public consultation to begin.

“It also seeks authority to negotiate heads of terms with the two clubs.

“Before committing to the expenditure involved, terms would have to be agreed with the clubs, to tie them into the process and ultimately their occupation of the new stadium.” It went on:

“The council have so far focused upon assessing the financial viability of the proposals and have used the services of a third party specialist in leisure and stadium financing.

“Their report concludes that the proposals are potentially viable and that there is a reasonable chance of meeting the clubs’ ambitions for a new stadium in 2013/14.

“However it also acknowledges that there are significant challenges ahead and these include getting everyone - the council, the local community, the clubs - supporting a major initiative which could be an exceptional addition and asset to the district.”

Yet the move to have cabinet members discuss the report in secret was today slammed as “disgraceful” by an opposition councillor.

Liberal Democrat Julia Wassell said: “The public has a right to know how it’s own cash is being spent.

“One wonders why senior officers aren’t doing this sort of work.”

Financial information on the council’s website shows £50,000 was set aside last year and £250,000 this year to spend on the project. A further £200,000 is available next year.

The council said it could not confirm how much had been spent as the relevant officers were not available.

A statement said of Monday’s meeting: “The item is exempt as it contains a significant amount of commercially sensitive information.”

The council has said supporting the stadium to stay was vital as it ran sports programmes, generated employment and brought in visitors.

The cabinet meets at 7pm at its offices in Queen Victoria Road, High Wycombe.

Steve Hayes, owner of Wanderers and Wasps, said he was “absolutely delighted” by the move. He said he was committed to a public consultation on the plans and backed the council making the decision behind closed doors.

He said: “This is for the council to decide whether it wants to move forward, it is not for the public."

He added: “This isn’t about me earning lots of money, this is a legacy for the town and making sure Wasps and Wycombe Wanderers progress.”


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wayneo, bucks says...
11:08am Mon 2 Nov 09

£750,000 of OUR money so that Clarke can keep the London WASPs in town. At a time when services are being cut, and other facilities sidelined, they are spending this sort of money on a survey, the planning stage hasn't even begun yet.

More secret meetings. Charles Brocklehurst, Clarke and Hayes have already had private meetings about this, due to a recent High Court case, projects using public money are not commercially sensitive.

I suppose this decision is based on a recent Times story where in his usual bullish self, Hayes has threatened WDC to move LONDON WASPs, back to London if a decision isn't made by December;as far as most people i speak with are concerned, that couldn't happen too soon.

wycombenewbie, Wycombe says...
11:13am Mon 2 Nov 09

Its only a matter of time before Steve Hayes tries to buy WDC and own the whole of High Wycombe. He's a control freak!

true blue, Reading says...
11:24am Mon 2 Nov 09

What's the point of all this, Wanderers are lucky to get on average 5,5oo for home games. If they go ahead with a larger stadium the atmosphere will be hollow. This is all weighed in favour of Wasps !!!

nuno diaz, says...
11:33am Mon 2 Nov 09

A total £500,000 of council cash has been set aside for “feasibility” studies into the move.

So, 500k for something that might not happen?

How much was required to keep the swimming pool open?

wayneo, bucks says...
12:11pm Mon 2 Nov 09

true blue wrote:
What's the point of all this, Wanderers are lucky to get on average 5,5oo for home games. If they go ahead with a larger stadium the atmosphere will be hollow. This is all weighed in favour of Wasps !!!
I fear that will be the end result, Wanderers will play second fiddle to WASPs; now that Hayes has Wanderers and that Adams Park is undesinated as Green Belt, he will be free to sell the ground for development and make a very tidy sum. Undoubtedly, there will be a surplus to the debt that by his own mismanagement has engineered its way into the club, so the orginal shareholders and club lose out while he gains substantially.

Ironically, the Adams park site was taken out of Green Belt in order that Adams Park could be developed further, now for some reason, it is not fit for purpose. I suspect any consultation will include Council stakeholders and be dominated by those in Sands want to see the back of it.

The whole thing STINKs like High Heavens.

DeepThinker, Wycombe says...
12:59pm Mon 2 Nov 09

How about a bit of "freedom of information" here Oliver?
£500,000 on a feasability study? Who will perform it?
Do they have ANY connection with WDC or Steve Hayes?
Ex-council employees/councillor
s perhaps?
Why such a large amount?
Why do you say "as desired by Wycombe Wanderers AND London Wasps" ... they are one and the same, but you know that.
Sadly this is the beginning of the end for the Wanderers. As soon as Hayes gets his Wasps stadium, with the local council spending a fortune on finding the right place for him, he will offload the football team.
If he can't sell which he won't be able to do as the club will no longer have a stadium) he will hand it back to the supports with a cheque for £1.5 million ... as promised!
Are the council then supposed to step in a find a new home for the Wanderers?
Wycombe will no longer have a professional football team by 2016.
The "pay-off" will have long gone.
Hayes will have his own stadium for Wasps, have made a fortune selling the old ground for housing, and had the council (US!) pay for a lot of it!
Incidently ... what is he buying councillors for Christmas this year? Same as last year?
Why doesn't the BFP investigate this properly? Does Steve Hayes have the backing of the BFP? Isn't there anyone at the BFP with the intelligence to see what is happening? Is Steve Hayes a BFP shareholder?
I won't hold my breath.

Merge in Turn, says...
1:02pm Mon 2 Nov 09

Come on WDC - stick the new football ground on the Handy X site, with its easy M40 access. Move the Sports Centre to the old De La Rue site so more joggers can use Hughenden Park and scare Ivor from behind the shady trees.
S/W:foot-ball

HeartyR, High Wycombe says...
8:02pm Mon 2 Nov 09

It is less than 10 years since the local Tory party was condemning the Lab-Lib pact for spending £14,000 on an Art Design in the HIgh Street and complaining about Concrete Balls in the High Street both alleged to being a waste of Tax payers money.
Flashforward to today and the "waste of money" is now a Community benefit and the current value of such wonderful enlightened planning will only cost a mere £250,000. The Concrete Balls will remain within the Borough, but the inflate Balls that will benefit from such brave decisions undertaken in secret by our Tory council are likely to return to London if they don't get approval. Get Real Councillors, do you realise that to get a breakeven of about twothirds capacity you may need about 15000 spectators every match. the current combined gates of both Wasps and Wanderers is about 12,000. A 133% increase in attendance, coupled with an admission increase for "improved facilities" is likely to make the venture a loss leader. The access will clash with the new Landfill transportation vehicles and with the new school being built on the Cressex Road. Have your secret talks, but when you go out to a public enquiry you had better have all your facts correct. Mr Hayes I am sure hopes that his advisors have provided him with the facts he wants. The Council may reach an alternative conclusion.
After all, it is the Tax-payers at the end of the day who you have to convince..

wayneo, bucks says...
9:23pm Mon 2 Nov 09

The problem is, being taxpayer funded, it is likely that liability will be with the taxpayers. According to various reports, Hayes has setup a new stadium management Company so I would be interested in knowing as to exactly how Wanderers, WASPs and other 'interested' parties will be 'tied in'. Knowing how poor Council legal advice is, I suspect that any contracts will be drafted like a sieve. That said, one of the most frustrating and perphaps telling things, is that all of this is hush-hush, behind closed doors and that we are being drip-fed information from the BFP, again, stinks to high-heavens.

JP80, says...
9:34am Tue 3 Nov 09

So when do we get an update on what was discussed?

sw: debt-sale

Tharus Bond, Flackwell Heath says...
12:28pm Tue 3 Nov 09

I thin that a new stadium is needed but not at the booker site.
just to point out about a comment on London Wasps, the experience of watching one of their matches was an enjoyable experience in a friendly and welcoming atmosphere, with fans from the opposite team sitting right behind me! I think that wasps are good for wycombe, but i know people will disagree!
It must say something for the popularity of rugby if adams park is full to the brim when wasps are playing at home!

Save Wycombe, High Wycombe says...
4:04pm Tue 3 Nov 09

nuno diaz wrote:
A total £500,000 of council cash has been set aside for “feasibility” studies into the move.

So, 500k for something that might not happen?

How much was required to keep the swimming pool open?
Much less than £500,000!

cressex blue, cressex says...
8:34pm Tue 3 Nov 09

The football club will be WORSE off in a new stadium. They will lose Wasps rental income, food/beverage income, all 3rd party letting of conf rooms etc. The council will get more tax from new housing, wasps get a new stadium with reduced costs, Steve Hays and Ivor Beeks will make millions from tertiary development and the poor old football club will disappear into history. No ground, no assets, no owner who cares!

Voyeur, HW says...
8:36pm Tue 3 Nov 09

I question why it is the responsibility of WDC to fund a feasibility study in the first place.
.
If Wanderers and Wasps want a new stadium, they should be the ones paying for the feasibility study. They are the ones who are going to benefit from it.
.
WDC taxpayers will only get clogged streets and clogged on street parking places whether or not the stadium moves.

Ivor the younger, Wycombe says...
9:53pm Tue 3 Nov 09


Do we really need Wasps in Wycombe?

Up to now Muslims were flavour of the month now it is the loan sharks!

Why does council always get it sooo wrong?

Lorrainej, High Wycombe says...
7:53am Wed 4 Nov 09

Merge in Turn wrote:
Come on WDC - stick the new football ground on the Handy X site, with its easy M40 access. Move the Sports Centre to the old De La Rue site so more joggers can use Hughenden Park and scare Ivor from behind the shady trees. S/W:foot-ball
But Ivor hates Hughenden

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