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Full story: High Wycombe babies born in ambulances drama


TWO women gave birth in the back of an ambulance because of changes at Wycombe Hospital – leading them to warn that lives are at risk.

Veronica Roberts had to race from Wycombe to Aylesbury because she needed a maternity doctor – a service which was axed from Wycombe Hospital last month. She gave birth on the A4010.

And Victoria Stacey delivered in an ambulance outside the Eden centre because traffic was too heavy to get to Stoke Mandeville, Aylesbury, where staff said she should go.

Both babies are fine – but their parents fear for others.

The story, which has angered many, featured on ITV London Tonight news programme on Friday evening.

Hospital bosses insisted arrangements – whereby all doctor-led births in Bucks are carried out in Aylesbury – are safe.

Mrs Roberts, 23, who lives in the Wycombe area, planned to deliver at Wycombe, which has had a midwives-only service since October 19, because her birth was expected to be “safe”.

Yet the baby passed meconium, a stool, while still in the womb and staff ordered a transfer as it posed a risk.

However, minutes later the ambulance had to pull over on the A4010 at Bradenham. Baby Logan was born at about 00.50am on Tuesday of last week.

Mrs Roberts, a housewife, said: “I was frightened for Logan’s life, I don’t think my health ever crossed my mind.

“I’m just thankful it was a happy ending because had it been someone else, at a different time of day, with different complications, it may have turned out differently. At some point, the worst may happen.”

Husband James, 25, an RAF clerk who had just returned from Afghanistan, followed the ambulance. He said: “It is one of the worst feelings in your life to see your wife in pain trying to give birth to your offspring in the back of an ambulance.”

And at 9am yesterday, Victoria Stacey, 33, gave birth to son Finn in the back of an ambulance in a layby outside Tesco at Eden, High Wycombe.

Husband Mark had planned to drive her to Stoke Mandeville. But he hit 8.30am traffic in Terriers and said her midwife told him by phone to go home and call an ambulance.

Last month, the resident of Croftwood, Totteridge featured in the Bucks Free Press when she said she was “dreading” the thought of delivering in her husband’s Audi.

Mr Stacey, 27, who also had to follow the ambulance, said the umbilical cord had to be unwrapped from the baby’s neck.

He said: “Can you imagine me doing that in the back of the car? I’m not trained.

“There is a serious safety risk to mothers and babies. It just shows that we need a maternity unit.”

His wife said: “If I had had problems with the baby, we would have been in real trouble.”

Buckinghamshire Hospitals NHS Trust spokesman Lee Jones said: “There are occasions, although infrequent, where women do give birth en-route from their home to the hospital, annually this happens between eight and ten times a year.”

Wycombe has “robust protocols” to choose which women to take and the “vast majority” of deliveries are straightforward, she said. There were 5,415 births at both hospitals in 2008/09.

Midwives are trained to spot potential problems and transfers are “safe”.

Stoke is “appropriately and safely staffed”, she said, and she urged unhappy patients to contact the hospital. She said: “We are pleased that Mrs Roberts and her baby are well.”

Trauma A&E cases left the hospital in 2005. Doctor-led births and overnight pregnancy and children’s care were all transferred to Aylesbury last month.

Bosses said the changes are needed as there not enough doctors for both sites, posing a risk.


Comments(16)

ferrellcat says...
10:22am Mon 16 Nov 09

How reassuring to have well trained paramedics to safely deliver your child wherever and whenever they decide to arrive.
To highlight the same problems of pregnancy, that happen in hospital,home, or wherever mum decides. and conclude that there is more risk in travel is false.
the bucks free press campaign is to keep hospital services in High Wycombe and I would support that.However to worry mums by ratcheting up the the risk of this short journey is wrong.Show me one doctor midwife or paramedic that will say you will receive less care in an ambulance.
Stick to facts not biase

SDJones says...
11:23am Mon 16 Nov 09

why has this story taken 5 days to get to the website! and Lee Jones we shall see just how infrequent this sort of thing is, 2 babies already and the unit only transferred a couple of weeks ago these people will have blood on their hands soon

salena says...
12:17pm Mon 16 Nov 09

Its a disgrace that our wycombe services are moved to stoke .should have known a man is behind the changes mr jones i hope you dont have to go through the stress that these parents have been through but i can assure you this is not the last of this issue alot of women will be giving birth in the back of there car or ambulaces. i think we pay enough council tax that our services should stay in wycombe i dont think you have thought of the dangers your stupidity has bought on the local public in wycombe moving our services is a huge mistake and you should realise this soon enough stupid man.

Merge in Turn says...
12:38pm Mon 16 Nov 09

salena - I think you'll find it was a woman who shafted Wycombe and agreed to send theMaternity facility to Stoke Mandeville, Mr Jones is just the current spokesman. She was then sacked from Wycombe with a huge payout and moved her evil on to a hospital in Epsom, her name escapes me, but I'm sure someone will remember her.
Yes Wycombe has been totally screwed and it is only a matter of time until, very sadly, there is a newborns death on the route to SM.

Eris says...
1:56pm Mon 16 Nov 09

salena wrote:
Its a disgrace that our wycombe services are moved to stoke .should have known a man is behind the changes mr jones i hope you dont have to go through the stress that these parents have been through but i can assure you this is not the last of this issue alot of women will be giving birth in the back of there car or ambulaces. i think we pay enough council tax that our services should stay in wycombe i dont think you have thought of the dangers your stupidity has bought on the local public in wycombe moving our services is a huge mistake and you should realise this soon enough stupid man.
Not to take the wind out of your sails, but
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a) Lee Jones is female and
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b) It is rarely the spokesperson for an organisation who makes the decisions about which they are speaking.
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This is an emotive topic, but rash displays of fury are never going to be helpful.

SDJones says...
3:16pm Mon 16 Nov 09

why does it say spokesman, if this person is female it should be spelt Leigh

Eris says...
3:47pm Mon 16 Nov 09

SDJones wrote:
why does it say spokesman, if this person is female it should be spelt Leigh
People spell their names in all sorts of weird and wonderful ways. Later in the article and in previous articles, it refers to Lee Jones as 'she'.

And as for the 'spokesman' vs 'spokeswoman' or 'spokesperson', well, I will merely mention that this is the BFP, well known for its attention to detail.

Plus ça change... says...
6:14pm Mon 16 Nov 09

I agree with the spirit of ferrellcat's comments.

I am also getting extremely fed up with our hospital ( s ) 'getting it in the neck' on a regular basis in BFreeP's columns.

Knowing how exceptionally good some of the departments are in Wycombe and in SM, the continual 'moan, moan' does some very able and competent people a great disservice.

I have also seen some local ambulance crews in close-up action and they impressed me no end.

Let's have some balanced journalism for a change, BFreeP.

demoness says...
7:27pm Mon 16 Nov 09

Plus ça change... wrote:
I agree with the spirit of ferrellcat's comments. I am also getting extremely fed up with our hospital ( s ) 'getting it in the neck' on a regular basis in BFreeP's columns. Knowing how exceptionally good some of the departments are in Wycombe and in SM, the continual 'moan, moan' does some very able and competent people a great disservice. I have also seen some local ambulance crews in close-up action and they impressed me no end. Let's have some balanced journalism for a change, BFreeP.
I agree and similarly don't knock stoke mandeville all the time. Both hospitals are doing good jobs in rotten circumstances.
You want to blame someone - FFS blame the government who forced these changes and the previous Trust managers who let it happen.

Red Snow says...
7:32pm Mon 16 Nov 09

Of course there are very capable staff at WGH. However that is not an excuse to lay down and accept the disgracefull attempt to run down WGH and erect flats. The WGH area is massive and Wycombe is expanding all the time, this so called Hospital should be modernising and expanding its services. Oh and when I say modernising, I mean modernising as in updating. Not the politicians dictionary which simply reads: Modernising = CUTS.

I'll bet if a politician, councillor or senior management at the trust would receive proper A&E care if they had trauma injuries rather than travel to Stoke. They should hang their heads in shame and hope that their future families do not need care at WGH ...... they ultimately could be responsible for their Children's Children's Death!!!

pumpkin says...
7:58pm Mon 16 Nov 09

One of the women in question was being taken from Wycombe because the midwives, who have delivered many many babies, deemed the mother needed more specialised treatment than they were able to give. Whilst paramedics are indeed trained to a high standard, common sense says they are mostly dealing with road accidents & heart attacks, possible having never delivered a baby. (Although by this time next year they could be very experienced indeed!) Also ambulances are not mobile labour wards, the equipment is not specifically designed for that. There will be a time when there is not a happy outcome, the spokesperson will then say 'Unforeseen circumstances....sym
pathies with the parents....lessons will be learnt...

ivor says...
8:26pm Mon 16 Nov 09

It's an outrage that babies are being born in ambulances. We need full services restored to Wycombe General as soon as possible.
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I am currently covering this topic on my blog.
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Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “YOUR SAY” link at the top of the page then click on “BLOGS”.

demoness says...
8:51pm Mon 16 Nov 09

Red Snow wrote:
Of course there are very capable staff at WGH. However that is not an excuse to lay down and accept the disgracefull attempt to run down WGH and erect flats. The WGH area is massive and Wycombe is expanding all the time, this so called Hospital should be modernising and expanding its services. Oh and when I say modernising, I mean modernising as in updating. Not the politicians dictionary which simply reads: Modernising = CUTS. I'll bet if a politician, councillor or senior management at the trust would receive proper A&E care if they had trauma injuries rather than travel to Stoke. They should hang their heads in shame and hope that their future families do not need care at WGH ...... they ultimately could be responsible for their Children's Children's Death!!!
Good lord...
Could you be more dramatic?

Red Snow says...
9:39pm Mon 16 Nov 09

demoness wrote:
Red Snow wrote:
Of course there are very capable staff at WGH. However that is not an excuse to lay down and accept the disgracefull attempt to run down WGH and erect flats. The WGH area is massive and Wycombe is expanding all the time, this so called Hospital should be modernising and expanding its services. Oh and when I say modernising, I mean modernising as in updating. Not the politicians dictionary which simply reads: Modernising = CUTS. I'll bet if a politician, councillor or senior management at the trust would receive proper A&E care if they had trauma injuries rather than travel to Stoke. They should hang their heads in shame and hope that their future families do not need care at WGH ...... they ultimately could be responsible for their Children's Children's Death!!!
Good lord...
Could you be more dramatic?
Dramatic to you maybe, reality to those that have to live with this.


jrhj says...
2:16pm Tue 17 Nov 09

These people who are presuming it is a male, obviously are not reading and understanding the story properly as they should have realised it was a female by the amount of 'she's there were in it!! Its the parents who decide how to spell the name, it's not the childs fault and I dont think it's up to anybody else to tell them how it 'should' be spelt.What a silly arguement this is!!

SDJones says...
2:52pm Tue 17 Nov 09

sorry but the word spokesman the name Lee both refer to males thanks braintree


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