Travelodge announces plans to move to Wycombe (From Bucks Free Press)
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Travelodge announces plans to move to Wycombe
1:21pm Tuesday 17th November 2009 in News By Simon Farr
A view of the plans from Abbey Way
HOTEL chain Travelodge has announced it will plough £6.5 million into a new hotel in High Wycombe.
The Bucks Free Press revealed plans for a new 120-bed hotel in Octagon Parade, Abbey Way, opposite the Eden shopping centre in January.
The plans to expand and revamp the existing building, which houses the Pure and Obsession nightclubs, were given the green light by Wycombe District Council last month.
Travelodge yesterday announced it had secured approval to move into the town and will pump £6.5m into the development, which is expected to create 38 jobs.
The High Wycombe Travelodge is one of nine new hotels announced by the company in an overall investment worth £47m - adding 250 jobs and 857 beds to the company's portfolio.
Travelodge's managing director for development, Paul Harvey said: “With 60 exchanges announced in 2009, we have now signed more hotels this year than ever before.
“Whilst the property market is still challenging we have been able to add some fantastic sites to our estate.
“With this selection of hotels, we have managed to enter new towns for the first time and also build on our strength in the major cities.”
According to the Travelodge website, the average price for a room is £36 but the current closest Travelodge in Slough quotes rooms from £49.
A 124-bed hotel is also set to be built above the Chilterns Shopping Centre in Frogmoor.
Comments(65)
Laneender
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1:58pm Tue 17 Nov 09
moominpatrol
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2:09pm Tue 17 Nov 09
Oliver Newbury
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2:21pm Tue 17 Nov 09
miccles
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2:22pm Tue 17 Nov 09
(IS THIS CORRECT)????????
WHY do we need another one across the road????????????????
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And where is the Hotel Car Park going to be????????????????
Is it worth it for 38 jobs??????
Please tell me i am wrong?
miccles
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2:24pm Tue 17 Nov 09
miccles wrote:Answers on a postcard please
Please correct me if i'm wrong, not so long ago, there were plans to build a hotel in Frogmoor above the chilterns,
(IS THIS CORRECT)????????
WHY do we need another one across the road????????????????
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And where is the Hotel Car Park going to be????????????????
Is it worth it for 38 jobs??????
Please tell me i am wrong?
Save Wycombe
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2:25pm Tue 17 Nov 09
Malc London
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2:35pm Tue 17 Nov 09
SDJones
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2:49pm Tue 17 Nov 09
TheT0nemeister
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2:57pm Tue 17 Nov 09
demoness
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3:49pm Tue 17 Nov 09
The town has a new university which will mean at certain times parents etc coming in for open days, graduation etc.
There is NOTHING wrong with Travel lodges at all.
Laneender
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4:05pm Tue 17 Nov 09
Seriously though, I really think those who think Wycombe is a nice town should get out more and have a look at other towns that have managed to grow but without destroying their heritage, architecture and heart.
Thame is a very good example of why you don't need to be big, plenty of wonderful independent shops, busy, cheap and in some cases, free parking, good food, polite people, wonderful architecture, popular etc etc.
miccles
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4:27pm Tue 17 Nov 09
Laneender wrote:here here, couldn't agree more.
erm, err, .....think positive about Wycombe..... seeing Wycombe from the rear-view mirror is most positive thing I can say about the place.
Seriously though, I really think those who think Wycombe is a nice town should get out more and have a look at other towns that have managed to grow but without destroying their heritage, architecture and heart.
Thame is a very good example of why you don't need to be big, plenty of wonderful independent shops, busy, cheap and in some cases, free parking, good food, polite people, wonderful architecture, popular etc etc.
Wycombe is a ok place to live, the only thing is the (so called) councillors etc try to make wycombe something that its not. Wycombe is an AVERAGE town, not a CITY, there is not the space for all these HIGH FLYING IDEAS.
I'm just thinking how much my council tax is gonna go up to pay for all these non essentials.
TheT0nemeister
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4:39pm Tue 17 Nov 09
Laneender wrote:Oh yes Thame which is full of inbreds with one eye....That probably still haven't realised Ye Olde Wycombe is now High Wycombe and that "Horse and Cart" are a little out dated for most peoples everyday needs. Don't get me wrong I am not thinking High Wycombe is leading the 21s Century of designer towns but my guess from your beleaguered comment on High Wycombe is you probably do not quite fit into the 21st century either.
erm, err, .....think positive about Wycombe..... seeing Wycombe from the rear-view mirror is most positive thing I can say about the place. Seriously though, I really think those who think Wycombe is a nice town should get out more and have a look at other towns that have managed to grow but without destroying their heritage, architecture and heart. Thame is a very good example of why you don't need to be big, plenty of wonderful independent shops, busy, cheap and in some cases, free parking, good food, polite people, wonderful architecture, popular etc etc.
demoness
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4:42pm Tue 17 Nov 09
Laneender wrote:You can' t compare Wycombe with Thame - different infrastructure.
erm, err, .....think positive about Wycombe..... seeing Wycombe from the rear-view mirror is most positive thing I can say about the place. Seriously though, I really think those who think Wycombe is a nice town should get out more and have a look at other towns that have managed to grow but without destroying their heritage, architecture and heart. Thame is a very good example of why you don't need to be big, plenty of wonderful independent shops, busy, cheap and in some cases, free parking, good food, polite people, wonderful architecture, popular etc etc.
Wycombe is a large town - the second largest in Bucks ( Milton Keynes being the largest).
It is therefore not comparable with a small town like Thame.
I like Wycombe - good shops, good restaurants, fantastic theatre.
Yes there is a lot wrong with it and if you are comparing it to how it was 50 years ago when it was a small market town then fair enough.
But it isn't anymore - it has moved on.
miccles
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4:58pm Tue 17 Nov 09
High Wycombe has not.
J B Blackett
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5:49pm Tue 17 Nov 09
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Right next to the proposed 'released from entombment' River Wye and piazza too.
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Who says the Wycombe planning dept and councillors in Wycombe are inept and philistines ?
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Well we do - a bit more imagination and thought and artistry in your developments, for Goodness sake ! Residents and other people have to look at this 19th century factory style block in the future !
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Cheap as chips is never the best idea - EVER.
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PS what ever happened to David Dickinson ? Is he incarcerated again ? Perhaps our WDC councillors should have a word with him.
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Regards
finaciers
Hit me
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6:21pm Tue 17 Nov 09
... definitely a positive. I am sick of sleeping in the bush on the roundabout...
J B Blackett
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6:32pm Tue 17 Nov 09
Laneender wrote:While make some good points about destruction of our heritage and history in High Wycombe , Laneender , I'm afraid your rather insulting and sneering remarks about the Town (and implicitly the people) have rather exposed your own prejudices and apparent smugness.
erm, err, .....think positive about Wycombe..... seeing Wycombe from the rear-view mirror is most positive thing I can say about the place.
Seriously though, I really think those who think Wycombe is a nice town should get out more and have a look at other towns that have managed to grow but without destroying their heritage, architecture and heart.
Thame is a very good example of why you don't need to be big, plenty of wonderful independent shops, busy, cheap and in some cases, free parking, good food, polite people, wonderful architecture, popular etc etc.
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You appear to have a problem there. Think about why you need to do that - try to rationalize it and then be a bit more constructive, please.
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Not all people can afford to live in expensive areas like Thame or Marlow or even Lane End... Why should the town where we live not be made attractive and pleasant instead being destroyed - and unnecessarily scoffed at by snobbish sanctimonious out-of-towners
AND If it wasn't for working towns like Oxford or Aylesbury or High Wycombe or Reading providing real employment, places like Thame etc would now not exist as the apparent present-day bourgeois ghettos they appear to be.
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Also the British people cannot all work in retail outlets or service industries - somebody's got to make something to sell.
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Mr Motivator
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9:52pm Tue 17 Nov 09
Can we not have some constructive comments for once. You all seem to want to run this town down no matter what is proposed you all give great delight in slagging off High Wycombe why you all live in or around the area.
I do agree High Wycombe is a town not a city, if you all want to move to the big smoke go ahead go into the big cities.
Or let us have some constructive ideas as to how to improve all of our town to get it to grow and exspand which it will in the future.
So why do'nt you all put your heads together and come up with your proposals to develope this town and bring it forward.
" LET US ALL HAVE A LOOK AT YOUR IDEAS "
Lorrainej
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8:47am Wed 18 Nov 09
Laneender wrote:Thats a real gem coming from a Laneender
A downmarket hotel chain for a downmarket town, sounds like a match made in heaven to me.
Lorrainej
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8:50am Wed 18 Nov 09
Laneender wrote:Great, we will all have to move there then, wonder how long it would stay like that then
erm, err, .....think positive about Wycombe..... seeing Wycombe from the rear-view mirror is most positive thing I can say about the place. Seriously though, I really think those who think Wycombe is a nice town should get out more and have a look at other towns that have managed to grow but without destroying their heritage, architecture and heart. Thame is a very good example of why you don't need to be big, plenty of wonderful independent shops, busy, cheap and in some cases, free parking, good food, polite people, wonderful architecture, popular etc etc.
Lorrainej
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8:51am Wed 18 Nov 09
TheT0nemeister wrote:Thats strange cos they all like that in Lane End aswell
Laneender wrote: erm, err, .....think positive about Wycombe..... seeing Wycombe from the rear-view mirror is most positive thing I can say about the place. Seriously though, I really think those who think Wycombe is a nice town should get out more and have a look at other towns that have managed to grow but without destroying their heritage, architecture and heart. Thame is a very good example of why you don't need to be big, plenty of wonderful independent shops, busy, cheap and in some cases, free parking, good food, polite people, wonderful architecture, popular etc etc.Oh yes Thame which is full of inbreds with one eye....That probably still haven't realised Ye Olde Wycombe is now High Wycombe and that "Horse and Cart" are a little out dated for most peoples everyday needs. Don't get me wrong I am not thinking High Wycombe is leading the 21s Century of designer towns but my guess from your beleaguered comment on High Wycombe is you probably do not quite fit into the 21st century either.
Lorrainej
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8:56am Wed 18 Nov 09
Lorrainej
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8:59am Wed 18 Nov 09
Mr Motivator wrote:Well Said, and another suggestion, to all the whingers and moaners that dislike Wycombe so much, PLEASE stay away, and leave it to the people that dont whinge and moan
Hi all you bloger's on this site. Can we not have some constructive comments for once. You all seem to want to run this town down no matter what is proposed you all give great delight in slagging off High Wycombe why you all live in or around the area. I do agree High Wycombe is a town not a city, if you all want to move to the big smoke go ahead go into the big cities. Or let us have some constructive ideas as to how to improve all of our town to get it to grow and exspand which it will in the future. So why do'nt you all put your heads together and come up with your proposals to develope this town and bring it forward. " LET US ALL HAVE A LOOK AT YOUR IDEAS "
irish john
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9:05am Wed 18 Nov 09
wayneo
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9:16am Wed 18 Nov 09
J B Blackett wrote:It would only be insulting it wasn't true. Really, people should get out more; the reason why towns such as Thame etc are expensive, is because they are desirable, they are desireable because people WANT to live there, evidently from your own reply, you allude to the fact that many people would move there if they could and this is my point.
Laneender wrote: erm, err, .....think positive about Wycombe..... seeing Wycombe from the rear-view mirror is most positive thing I can say about the place. Seriously though, I really think those who think Wycombe is a nice town should get out more and have a look at other towns that have managed to grow but without destroying their heritage, architecture and heart. Thame is a very good example of why you don't need to be big, plenty of wonderful independent shops, busy, cheap and in some cases, free parking, good food, polite people, wonderful architecture, popular etc etc.While make some good points about destruction of our heritage and history in High Wycombe , Laneender , I'm afraid your rather insulting and sneering remarks about the Town (and implicitly the people) have rather exposed your own prejudices and apparent smugness. . You appear to have a problem there. Think about why you need to do that - try to rationalize it and then be a bit more constructive, please. . Not all people can afford to live in expensive areas like Thame or Marlow or even Lane End... Why should the town where we live not be made attractive and pleasant instead being destroyed - and unnecessarily scoffed at by snobbish sanctimonious out-of-towners AND If it wasn't for working towns like Oxford or Aylesbury or High Wycombe or Reading providing real employment, places like Thame etc would now not exist as the apparent present-day bourgeois ghettos they appear to be. . Also the British people cannot all work in retail outlets or service industries - somebody's got to make something to sell. .
Wycombe is fragemented, a melting pot of old and new that is symbolic more of using sticky plasters to make the best of a bad thing rather than sitting down and having a serious long-term plan that will make the town a nice place to live. Instead we have this piece-meal that has carved the town up.
As for not getting behind the town, why should we, we're British and this is a forum to air our views, grievances and praise, we don't live in s EUSSR yet!!! I believe that there is a lost opportunity and am fortunate to remember when Wycombe was a pleasant town, it doesn't need to be BIG, just a bit of quality over quantity and we can start with being selective about the type of hotel chain the town has.
miccles
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9:49am Wed 18 Nov 09
NO HOSPITAL if someone falls ill
Lorrainej
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9:59am Wed 18 Nov 09
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Is that the new British attitude, I thought that went out in the 70's along with the car industry, if that is the attitude then nothing will change, we will be taken over by the immigrants, because what we have is much better than what they had, that is why they are here. But lets just sit back and air our views, because we can, we are British, thank God we didn't have blogs during the 1st and second World Wars, and they didn't sit on their a*r*s*e and just pass comment. WONDERFUL ATTITUDE
Boris1
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10:21am Wed 18 Nov 09
God people do winge a lot. As Demoness said people should stop being so negetive about everything.
Yeah i think wycombe pretty rubbish but coming from london wycombes a lovely place. We have everything we need here and only a stone throw away from all the busy cities. A 5 minute drive and we're in beautifull countryside. So whats the problem???
Plus ça change...
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10:30am Wed 18 Nov 09
All the visitors will be asking where the Roman villa is....
Better get my toga dry-cleaned.
s/w
it's-just-over-there
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miccles
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11:09am Wed 18 Nov 09
demoness wrote:Just think how boring life would be if we all agreed on everything.
Just once - just this flipping once, would it kill any of you to say something positve about this town?
The town has a new university which will mean at certain times parents etc coming in for open days, graduation etc.
There is NOTHING wrong with Travel lodges at all.
wayneo
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11:52am Wed 18 Nov 09
Lorrainej
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12:37pm Wed 18 Nov 09
wayneo wrote:I simply made a comment, that as a nation we didn't sit and do nothing, we stood up and fought for what we considered right. If you just want to sit back and do nothing about what you consider to be right for you, then you have in my opinion not earned the right to comment. Your comment above please explain
So why did we have two world wars then Lorrainej?
pennman
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1:23pm Wed 18 Nov 09
Why anyone would want to stay in Wycombe is another matter!!
Morag
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2:36pm Wed 18 Nov 09
wayneo wrote:Could it have something to do with democracy? You know, freedom of political expression, freedom of speech and freedom of the press - that sort of thing?
So why did we have two world wars then Lorrainej?
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So that everyone is free to express their opinion, even if it differs from the next person?
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So that we can all listen rationally to all points of view and not just attack anyone who disagrees?
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Just a thought.
J B Blackett
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2:53pm Wed 18 Nov 09
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Wycombe is now at the tipping point in terms of absorbing everybody else's ideas of growth for people and business.
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If it wasn't for Wycombe this area of Bucks would revert to little snobby sneering ghettos of wealthy bourgeoisie (like Penn for instance ? or Lane End ?) and other larger areas filled with a multitude of unemployed people (like areas around Newcastle, Middlesboro and Bradford).
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Could some of you for once (Please) say something positive about Wycombe or do you just come on here to scoff and make oblique snidey nasty remarks from your supposedly well-to-do but ill-informed fastnesses.
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I question your blind persistence in this pointless pursuit.
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Do you feel insecure and need to insult other people to suppress these febrile feelings and this insecurity ?
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AND aren't there lots of problems in your own areas that you need to address and sort out without bothering we Wycombe folk with your inappropriate , unwanted and irrelevant remarks ?
John1980
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4:50pm Wed 18 Nov 09
Lorrainej
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4:52pm Wed 18 Nov 09
Morag wrote:Morag off the fence again, my you are busy.He wasn't just expressing an opionion, he was SAYING THAT HE WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING, my opinion was, in other words don't Just sit on the fence, but you are very good at that Morag, as we have all seen before. But its probably just the sight of my name thats whips you up into some sort of negative frenzy.
wayneo wrote: So why did we have two world wars then Lorrainej?Could it have something to do with democracy? You know, freedom of political expression, freedom of speech and freedom of the press - that sort of thing? ~ So that everyone is free to express their opinion, even if it differs from the next person? ~ So that we can all listen rationally to all points of view and not just attack anyone who disagrees? ~ Just a thought.
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Just a thought
Lorrainej
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4:56pm Wed 18 Nov 09
J B Blackett wrote:Brilliantly put, well said, everybody is always knocking Wycombe, as I said before, if its that bad don't come, there are plenty of other people that do enjoy it.
Wycombe has been and still is the work-horse and employment engine for a multitude of businesses for all this area of S Bucks. Hence the traffic chaos caused by the over-development and other areas not wishing to take on their share in the burden of industrial growth ! . Wycombe is now at the tipping point in terms of absorbing everybody else's ideas of growth for people and business. . If it wasn't for Wycombe this area of Bucks would revert to little snobby sneering ghettos of wealthy bourgeoisie (like Penn for instance ? or Lane End ?) and other larger areas filled with a multitude of unemployed people (like areas around Newcastle, Middlesboro and Bradford). . Could some of you for once (Please) say something positive about Wycombe or do you just come on here to scoff and make oblique snidey nasty remarks from your supposedly well-to-do but ill-informed fastnesses. . I question your blind persistence in this pointless pursuit. . Do you feel insecure and need to insult other people to suppress these febrile feelings and this insecurity ? . AND aren't there lots of problems in your own areas that you need to address and sort out without bothering we Wycombe folk with your inappropriate , unwanted and irrelevant remarks ?
wayneo
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5:08pm Wed 18 Nov 09
Morag wrote:My sentiment exactly Morag.
wayneo wrote: So why did we have two world wars then Lorrainej?Could it have something to do with democracy? You know, freedom of political expression, freedom of speech and freedom of the press - that sort of thing? ~ So that everyone is free to express their opinion, even if it differs from the next person? ~ So that we can all listen rationally to all points of view and not just attack anyone who disagrees? ~ Just a thought.
Lorrainej
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5:15pm Wed 18 Nov 09
wayneo wrote:Well you would say that wouldn't you, you certainly don't intend to do anything except sit on the fence, and voice your opinion when it suits, sitting next to Morag would suit you down to the ground.
Morag wrote:My sentiment exactly Morag.wayneo wrote: So why did we have two world wars then Lorrainej?Could it have something to do with democracy? You know, freedom of political expression, freedom of speech and freedom of the press - that sort of thing? ~ So that everyone is free to express their opinion, even if it differs from the next person? ~ So that we can all listen rationally to all points of view and not just attack anyone who disagrees? ~ Just a thought.
wayneo
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5:16pm Wed 18 Nov 09
J B Blackett wrote:Fortunately, some us are blessed with our own minds and opinions, we won't be bullied by fallacious posts, you complain of being insulted but open by throwing insults and highlighting why Wycombe isn't that nice a place to live.
Wycombe has been and still is the work-horse and employment engine for a multitude of businesses for all this area of S Bucks. Hence the traffic chaos caused by the over-development and other areas not wishing to take on their share in the burden of industrial growth ! . Wycombe is now at the tipping point in terms of absorbing everybody else's ideas of growth for people and business. . If it wasn't for Wycombe this area of Bucks would revert to little snobby sneering ghettos of wealthy bourgeoisie (like Penn for instance ? or Lane End ?) and other larger areas filled with a multitude of unemployed people (like areas around Newcastle, Middlesboro and Bradford). . Could some of you for once (Please) say something positive about Wycombe or do you just come on here to scoff and make oblique snidey nasty remarks from your supposedly well-to-do but ill-informed fastnesses. . I question your blind persistence in this pointless pursuit. . Do you feel insecure and need to insult other people to suppress these febrile feelings and this insecurity ? . AND aren't there lots of problems in your own areas that you need to address and sort out without bothering we Wycombe folk with your inappropriate , unwanted and irrelevant remarks ?
Perphaps other places have a Council that for once says "NO, we are not going to develop, we are going to look after the people we have first".
Consider this, if people didn't care about their town, then they wouldn't be complaining about the state of it; unless one is first aware of the problems, then nothing will change for the better will it?
Morag
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5:21pm Wed 18 Nov 09
Lorrainej wrote:There you go, expressing your opinion ........ as is your right.
Morag wrote:Morag off the fence again, my you are busy.He wasn't just expressing an opionion, he was SAYING THAT HE WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING, my opinion was, in other words don't Just sit on the fence, but you are very good at that Morag, as we have all seen before. But its probably just the sight of my name thats whips you up into some sort of negative frenzy. ~ Just a thoughtwayneo wrote: So why did we have two world wars then Lorrainej?Could it have something to do with democracy? You know, freedom of political expression, freedom of speech and freedom of the press - that sort of thing? ~ So that everyone is free to express their opinion, even if it differs from the next person? ~ So that we can all listen rationally to all points of view and not just attack anyone who disagrees? ~ Just a thought.
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10 of your constructive comments on here so far to my 2 - yes very busy.
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What exactly is it that you want Wayneo to do and where is this fence that you keep referring to?
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What is negative in wanting to hear everyones point of view? I am not attacking anyone and I cannot imagine why you would think so?
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You, however, seem to be gaining a lot of experience in that area.
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I am not against Travelodge coming to Wycombe, although I do agree with JBB that the site is wrong "Right next to the proposed 'released from entombment' River Wye and piazza too."
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Do you have some anger management issues? If so, you have my sympathy.
Lorrainej
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5:43pm Wed 18 Nov 09
Morag wrote:Of course I am expressing my opinion, why else would I be on this site.
Lorrainej wrote:There you go, expressing your opinion ........ as is your right. ~ 10 of your constructive comments on here so far to my 2 - yes very busy. ~ What exactly is it that you want Wayneo to do and where is this fence that you keep referring to? ~ What is negative in wanting to hear everyones point of view? I am not attacking anyone and I cannot imagine why you would think so? ~ You, however, seem to be gaining a lot of experience in that area. ~ I am not against Travelodge coming to Wycombe, although I do agree with JBB that the site is wrong "Right next to the proposed 'released from entombment' River Wye and piazza too." ~ Do you have some anger management issues? If so, you have my sympathy.Morag wrote:Morag off the fence again, my you are busy.He wasn't just expressing an opionion, he was SAYING THAT HE WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING, my opinion was, in other words don't Just sit on the fence, but you are very good at that Morag, as we have all seen before. But its probably just the sight of my name thats whips you up into some sort of negative frenzy. ~ Just a thoughtwayneo wrote: So why did we have two world wars then Lorrainej?Could it have something to do with democracy? You know, freedom of political expression, freedom of speech and freedom of the press - that sort of thing? ~ So that everyone is free to express their opinion, even if it differs from the next person? ~ So that we can all listen rationally to all points of view and not just attack anyone who disagrees? ~ Just a thought.
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Have I really made 0 comments to your two, you first comment was made directly to me not about the content. The only time you have ever responded to a blog, has always been directed at me Morag, you have never offered any constructive critism, or for that matter negative critism about anything, I would call that sitting on the fence.
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I have no idea what Wayneo should do, or indeed what I want him to do, except if he is not happy with something, then HE can change it, as we all can, my point was, he didn't see any reason as to why he should
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There is nothing negative about wanting to HEAR everyones point of view, that is why he made his comment, and why I followed with my comment. But If I am not happy with something, I would endeavour to see what I could do in order that it may be changed, I would not say, why should I do anything, and let someone else do the work, and then just sit back and complain. You reap what you sow.
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I'm am happy that you think I am gaining experience, thanks for your observation.
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I have not commented about the pros or cons for a Travelodge coming to Wycombe.
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No I have no anger management issues, why do you have some experience in this area, perhaps it is you that needs my sympathy, Sorry Morag I was unaware of your problems.
Lorrainej
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5:48pm Wed 18 Nov 09
wayneo wrote:WHEN have I highlighted why Wycombe isn't a nice place to live. I am all for you complaining if you are not happy, my one point, which everybody seems to miss, is why you say, "WHY SHOULD YOU DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT", perhaps if you could answer that question, I may see what you are saying.
J B Blackett wrote: Wycombe has been and still is the work-horse and employment engine for a multitude of businesses for all this area of S Bucks. Hence the traffic chaos caused by the over-development and other areas not wishing to take on their share in the burden of industrial growth ! . Wycombe is now at the tipping point in terms of absorbing everybody else's ideas of growth for people and business. . If it wasn't for Wycombe this area of Bucks would revert to little snobby sneering ghettos of wealthy bourgeoisie (like Penn for instance ? or Lane End ?) and other larger areas filled with a multitude of unemployed people (like areas around Newcastle, Middlesboro and Bradford). . Could some of you for once (Please) say something positive about Wycombe or do you just come on here to scoff and make oblique snidey nasty remarks from your supposedly well-to-do but ill-informed fastnesses. . I question your blind persistence in this pointless pursuit. . Do you feel insecure and need to insult other people to suppress these febrile feelings and this insecurity ? . AND aren't there lots of problems in your own areas that you need to address and sort out without bothering we Wycombe folk with your inappropriate , unwanted and irrelevant remarks ?Fortunately, some us are blessed with our own minds and opinions, we won't be bullied by fallacious posts, you complain of being insulted but open by throwing insults and highlighting why Wycombe isn't that nice a place to live. Perphaps other places have a Council that for once says "NO, we are not going to develop, we are going to look after the people we have first". Consider this, if people didn't care about their town, then they wouldn't be complaining about the state of it; unless one is first aware of the problems, then nothing will change for the better will it?
Laneender
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5:55pm Wed 18 Nov 09
Lorrainej wrote:I think his comment was directed to JBB.
wayneo wrote:WHEN have I highlighted why Wycombe isn't a nice place to live. I am all for you complaining if you are not happy, my one point, which everybody seems to miss, is why you say, "WHY SHOULD YOU DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT", perhaps if you could answer that question, I may see what you are saying.J B Blackett wrote: Wycombe has been and still is the work-horse and employment engine for a multitude of businesses for all this area of S Bucks. Hence the traffic chaos caused by the over-development and other areas not wishing to take on their share in the burden of industrial growth ! . Wycombe is now at the tipping point in terms of absorbing everybody else's ideas of growth for people and business. . If it wasn't for Wycombe this area of Bucks would revert to little snobby sneering ghettos of wealthy bourgeoisie (like Penn for instance ? or Lane End ?) and other larger areas filled with a multitude of unemployed people (like areas around Newcastle, Middlesboro and Bradford). . Could some of you for once (Please) say something positive about Wycombe or do you just come on here to scoff and make oblique snidey nasty remarks from your supposedly well-to-do but ill-informed fastnesses. . I question your blind persistence in this pointless pursuit. . Do you feel insecure and need to insult other people to suppress these febrile feelings and this insecurity ? . AND aren't there lots of problems in your own areas that you need to address and sort out without bothering we Wycombe folk with your inappropriate , unwanted and irrelevant remarks ?Fortunately, some us are blessed with our own minds and opinions, we won't be bullied by fallacious posts, you complain of being insulted but open by throwing insults and highlighting why Wycombe isn't that nice a place to live. Perphaps other places have a Council that for once says "NO, we are not going to develop, we are going to look after the people we have first". Consider this, if people didn't care about their town, then they wouldn't be complaining about the state of it; unless one is first aware of the problems, then nothing will change for the better will it?
Lorrainej
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5:59pm Wed 18 Nov 09
J B Blackett
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7:08pm Wed 18 Nov 09
What's fallacious ? Who's complaining that Wycombe isn't a nice place to live except Pennman and Laneender ? Who's Bullying ?
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Perhaps some people getting are fed up with others name-calling and abusing Wycombe Town and its residents continually with phrases like 'hell-hole' , 'dump' , 'slum' , s*** hole', ' best seen from the rear view mirror' , 'down-market town' etc etc - just a few of the choice words used in this context in the last few days. Check out the scoffing remarks from the usual suspects as well in recent times.
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I think you have missed the salient aspects of what I'm saying.
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Wycombe Town means a lot to a lot of us. We just don't appreciate this continual barrage of gratuitous unnecessary insults direct at us in this place (None of us here are uncaring WDC councillors). But we won't meekly submit to it , so expect reciprocal recriminatory reactions.
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So speak & type away , express yourself in whatever way you wish - anything whatsoever you like - Anything !
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But, please , keep it clean for the censors' sake.
wayneo
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7:35pm Wed 18 Nov 09
Lorrainej wrote:No problem at all, thanks!
Thank you Laneender, and my appologies to Wayneo
Come on then JB, let's have a list of what's positive about Wycombe?
Morag
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7:48pm Wed 18 Nov 09
I am very confused by your latest post. My first comment was directed to Wayneo, not you.
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I have read your comments to me several times but I am afraid I cannot make any sense of them. Oh well, never mind.
J B Blackett
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8:09pm Wed 18 Nov 09
wayneo wrote:In view of recent past comments (not necessarily by yourself) I could start off by way of a reprehensive retaliatory reply by recounting of really rotten experiences I have had in places such as Lane End , Penn and yes even tendentious and tempting Thame.
Lorrainej wrote:No problem at all, thanks!
Thank you Laneender, and my appologies to Wayneo
Come on then JB, let's have a list of what's positive about Wycombe?
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However I am too polite to indulge myself in that pejorative pointless pursuit.
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And I am not best person for a " praising Wycombe " exercise or even the best qualified but hang on for follow-up re-wonderful Wycombe. I will defend it against all-comers (and I'm not alone). We all have our hearts in the right place.
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Mr Motivator
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9:57pm Wed 18 Nov 09
Now that you have all aired your oppionions, lets put the constructive side to good use and put forward ideas to promote High Wycombe in the best way possible. LOOK FORWARD TO ALL YOUR COMMENTS.
Lets hope you have all got rid of the annimosaty. ( Spelling not my best subject )
demoness
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12:06am Thu 19 Nov 09
J B Blackett
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Lorrainej
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2:48am Thu 19 Nov 09
Morag wrote:" Oh well, never mind"
Hi Lorraine I am very confused by your latest post. My first comment was directed to Wayneo, not you. ~ I have read your comments to me several times but I am afraid I cannot make any sense of them. Oh well, never mind.
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Typical fence sitter attitude, my point in the beginning.
Friendly person from
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8:41am Thu 19 Nov 09
Plus ça change...
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9:09am Thu 19 Nov 09
A line of Doric columns could be added maybe?
Morag
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9:32am Thu 19 Nov 09
Lorrainej wrote:I made my point to Wayneo clearly and he agreed with me.
Morag wrote: Hi Lorraine I am very confused by your latest post. My first comment was directed to Wayneo, not you. ~ I have read your comments to me several times but I am afraid I cannot make any sense of them. Oh well, never mind." Oh well, never mind" ~ Typical fence sitter attitude, my point in the beginning.
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I clearly stated to you my opinion on the matter of Travelodge - which is what this debate is about. You have not and have made a point of telling me that.
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How is that sitting on the fence?
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I am sorry I can't follow your argument and that you need to resort to personal abuse.
Lorrainej
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10:07am Thu 19 Nov 09
Morag wrote:But your first comment wasn't, it was personal, as have all your other responses. You have made 1 small response about the Travelodge, the rest of your responses have been directed at me. Is it your medication that is confusing you Morag, maybe you have got the dosage wrong, you only seem to spark up occasionally, or is it when you fall off the fence.
Lorrainej wrote:I made my point to Wayneo clearly and he agreed with me. ~ I clearly stated to you my opinion on the matter of Travelodge - which is what this debate is about. You have not and have made a point of telling me that. ~ How is that sitting on the fence? ~ I am sorry I can't follow your argument and that you need to resort to personal abuse.Morag wrote: Hi Lorraine I am very confused by your latest post. My first comment was directed to Wayneo, not you. ~ I have read your comments to me several times but I am afraid I cannot make any sense of them. Oh well, never mind." Oh well, never mind" ~ Typical fence sitter attitude, my point in the beginning.
J B Blackett
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7:00pm Thu 19 Nov 09
Plus ça change... wrote:I think I see what you mean - but Doric ? Perleeeease , it's far too plain and slabby - just like the proposed buildings.
If you magic away the flyover from the photo, it's starting to look a bit 'Roman'...
A line of Doric columns could be added maybe?
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Corinthian was/is too fussy and over-ornate and very American (probably expensive as well). And they don't like Wasps.
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I would go along with some thing in the Ionic style (a capital idea !) ; the stonemason on the West Wycombe Rd could make these I'm sure with the correct instruction.
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BTW is this place the correct 'forum' for these ideas ?
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Anyway my provisional estimate for for 2 lines of Portland 11M stone columns on both sides of the water-featured piazza - that's from the end of the college to the edge of the roundabout and spaced every 3 paces (passi ?) is of the order £1,350,000 plus installation costs.
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It would look wonderful I agree ; folks would come for miles just to stroll up and down the esplanade and converse socially about interesting important things (Definetly No Politics , Religion or Banking Matters)
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But unfortunately with this philistine (no offence intended to any philistines) small-minded poor-spirited ill-educated WDC lot ......... No vision or imagination as has been proved.
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Salute and Regards
Phalanxes of goose-stepping troops
J B Blackett
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7:11pm Thu 19 Nov 09
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An erattum on my part - Apologies
featheredfriend
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10:11pm Thu 19 Nov 09
tom.marlow
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11:29pm Thu 19 Nov 09
J B Blackett wrote:You should take a look at the neo-classical Antigone development in Montpellier :-)
Plus ça change... wrote: If you magic away the flyover from the photo, it's starting to look a bit 'Roman'... A line of Doric columns could be added maybe?I think I see what you mean - but Doric ? Perleeeease , it's far too plain and slabby - just like the proposed buildings. . Corinthian was/is too fussy and over-ornate and very American (probably expensive as well). And they don't like Wasps. . I would go along with some thing in the Ionic style (a capital idea !) ; the stonemason on the West Wycombe Rd could make these I'm sure with the correct instruction. . BTW is this place the correct 'forum' for these ideas ? . Anyway my provisional estimate for for 2 lines of Portland 11M stone columns on both sides of the water-featured piazza - that's from the end of the college to the edge of the roundabout and spaced every 3 paces (passi ?) is of the order £1,350,000 plus installation costs. . It would look wonderful I agree ; folks would come for miles just to stroll up and down the esplanade and converse socially about interesting important things (Definetly No Politics , Religion or Banking Matters) . But unfortunately with this philistine (no offence intended to any philistines) small-minded poor-spirited ill-educated WDC lot ......... No vision or imagination as has been proved. . Salute and Regards Phalanxes of goose-stepping troops
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And they have trams.
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And its a lot sunnier than here
J B Blackett
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11:21pm Fri 20 Nov 09
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Very nice but ruined . ('ruined' if you know what I mean 'cos they are not really ruins).
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Don't know whether the columns are Corinthian or not, but I'd settle for something like that - without the fairy lights - on top of the dreadful to-be-demolished Abbey Way (Strada D'Abbey).
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Regards
Oliver Newbury says...
1:36pm Tue 17 Nov 09