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Farmers market Marlow boss attacks Wycombe District Council


THE farmers’ market could come to a hasty end just five months after being revived in Marlow due to council bureaucracy, a farmer says.

David Emmett from Hambleden has attacked Wycombe District Council for throwing “every challenge they can think of” and said the run up to Christmas could be make or break.

The market has now been told to take down an advertising banner on the fence of the Dean Street car park, where it is held, because it required planning permission.

The notice which has a WDC logo, had been up since June, when the market re-opened.

Father-of-three Mr Emmett, 60, said: “This is another blow to us, the council seem to throw us every challenge they can think of.

“The councillors, especially leader Lesley Clarke have been supportive, but it’s when we come down to what I call these bureaucrats, they want to dot all the i’s and cross all the t’s.

“We are already losing customers due to the car parking fees on a Sunday – the next few weeks in the run up to Christmas are crucial to the survival of this farmer’s market.”

It costs £150 per week to rent the car park from the council.

“Because of this cost structure and other running expenses we are just about break even,” Mr Emmett said.

He said the response from Marlovians had not been as good as he originally hoped.

Mr Emmett is unhappy at what he was told was a £325 bill to put the banner back up and fears customers may assume the market has shut.

However, at the time of going to press WDC said advert consent would cost only £95.

Farmer Bruce Garside, 44, who breeds rare pigs in Hambleden and Skirmett, said: “It would be a big hole in my business, as a weekly income it’s important for us to carry on.”

He described the decision to remove the banner as “petty”.

Theresa Whittle, 55, of Goring Heath, Oxfordshire, was coordinator of the previous farmers market, which closed in summer 2008.

Vendors were unable to afford a fee enforced by Wycombe District Council to use Higginson Park after being forced out of their regular spot at The Causeway due to building work.

Mrs Whittle said it had no longer been financially viable and felt unsupported by WDC.

“I think the fundamental point is that although the local markets have to be self funding they need a lot of support from the council.

“They shouldn’t really have to pay rent at all.”

Mayor Neil Marshall said he has contacted council officers about Mr Emmett’s concerns and will also speak to council leader Cllr Lesley Clarke.

Cllr Marshall said he hoped the council’s stance could be “softened up”.


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towncryer, HIgh Wycombe town says...
10:56am Sun 22 Nov 09

WDC Torys are anywhere for a quick ££££
They are killing the area
They are selling off our buildings
They are cutting our services

We need to get rid of the Torys

bakerbill, High Wycombe says...
11:24am Sun 22 Nov 09

Theresa Whittle, 55, of Goring Heath, Oxfordshire, coordinator of the previous farmers market says They shouldn't really have to pay rent at all . The ratepayers should not subsidize these greedy farmers
if they want to sell they should have to pay like the rest of us ,anyway I don't understand why anybody uses these expensive farmers markets
when you can get the same foods in supermarkets at half the price .

J B Blackett, High Wycombe says...
11:50am Sun 22 Nov 09

bakerbill:
Most of the time you talk sense but this time we really don't think you have thought through the side effects and implications of this one.
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Unless you're being ironic , of course. In which case we've misunderstood the subtlety.
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Regards

DeepThinker, Wycombe says...
12:35pm Sun 22 Nov 09

Mr Emmett said "He said the response from Marlovians had not been as good as he originally hoped."
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That should tell him something.
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They aren't selling as much as they want and so they want special consideration from the council. They are unhappy because they can't have a prime "pitch", they are unhappy because they have to pay rent, etc, etc,
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Why should these people receive any extra consideration? The company my brother -in-law works for has laid him off because there isn't the work at the moment. Should the council waive their business rates? Of course not.
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Whilst I do have sympathy for those working hard to make a living, they can't all have special consideration.
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It is not the council's fault that the people of Marlow have not got the money to support the market, or is it that they do not have the desire to?

michael healy, high wycombe says...
3:29pm Sun 22 Nov 09

i feel sorry for the farmers market as all they want to do is sell their wares a bit like myself in Princes Risborough. Just a thought why dont the Farmers Market put their display on the side of a big van and put that in the carpark on a weekly basis, i reckon the cost would be cheaper than paying GREEDY WDC coffers. alot of other companys do the same on the road side and offer deals with their free advertising that costs nothing, and you dont need planning permission! Beat them at their own game i say and with their own laws! dont give up the fight Farmers Market

Afterall we pay WDC wages and sometimes i think they forget this totally.

Michael Healy- The Kebab Man

Princes Risborough


WWW.Kebabs4u.co.uk

ivor, says...
4:50pm Sun 22 Nov 09

Once again the powers that be stifle enterprise rather than encouraging it.
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No wonder our District is going down the pan.
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Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “YOUR SAY” link at the top of the page then click on “BLOGS”.

Voyeur, HW says...
5:02pm Sun 22 Nov 09

Bakerbill - thanks a lot for the best laugh I have had in ages.
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You ought to see if you can get some stand up comic work at the Wycombe Swan.
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With you special brand of ironic comedy you are bound to go down a treat!

tom.marlow, marlow says...
8:19pm Sun 22 Nov 09

I'm a bit biased on this one as I like the farmers market and get to it most sundays. A couple of points....
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Bakerbill says "anyway I don't understand why anybody uses these expensive farmers markets
when you can get the same foods in supermarkets at half the price ."
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The point is that you don't get the same foods in supermarkets at any price. For a variety of reasons the producers don't sell through supermarkets. I like to buy food from people who care about what they are selling, understand it and are concerned about the quality.
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Why should they have to pay anything to put their banner up? Does it cost WDC (or anyone else) anything for the banner to be there?
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I'd also like to know how much revenue WDC used to get from that carpark on sunday mornings before it was used by the market. I'd be surprised if it was as much as £150.
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One of the problems is that on a Sunday there is a single all-day £1 parking fee. Having to pay that much for what might only be a 5 or 10 minute visit must discourage some people. Free parking on sunday mornings in rest of the Dean Street car park would be a nice gesture from the council and wouldnt really cost much. RBWM council seem to be able to do this for Maidenhead farmers market.
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Marlow farmers market consists of a group of people who are trying to develop local businesses. Somewhere in its remit, WDC must have the same goals and should be trying to facilitate this, not obstruct it.

wicksandrea, marlow says...
9:25pm Sun 22 Nov 09

The Farmers Market in Marlow is great - I am saddened it is undersupported. The stall holders are just local people who wouldn't be able to sell the small quantities of produce any other way. The supermarkets only stock product from big producers. Let's suppot the little guys

Voyeur, HW says...
1:22am Mon 23 Nov 09

Q: What's the difference between a potato bought at a farmer's market and a potato bought in a supermarket?
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Ans: about 6 months.

DeepThinker, Wycombe says...
12:31pm Mon 23 Nov 09

wicksandrea wrote:
The Farmers Market in Marlow is great - I am saddened it is undersupported. The stall holders are just local people who wouldn't be able to sell the small quantities of produce any other way. The supermarkets only stock product from big producers. Let's suppot the little guys
Great sentiments, but can people afford to support the market in the current climate?
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The number of small, independent foot retailers has dwindled to almost nothing, why? Because they cannot compete with the likes of Tesco, Sainsbury, Asda, Waitrose. Morrisons, etc.
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Whilst people say they want to keep local shops, etc, they vote with their feet and go to the supermarkets. They do this for several reasons: Convenience of everything under one roof and price.

frankbutcher, wycombe says...
1:59pm Mon 23 Nov 09

git yer apples ladies anywhere you like now, come on, get your hands on these luvverly plums, anywhere you like, nice and ripe, sweet and juicy, there you go doll that'll be a pahnd....

678, Marlow says...
2:18pm Mon 23 Nov 09

Free Parking in Marlow would solve this problem but greedy WDC will never give it to us!! We always used to have it and Henley still does!! Why is this, whats the difference between Marlow and Henley, Oh thats right Henley isn't under control of Greedy Wycombe District Council, who only help out big businesses who pay back handers and employ Masons.

michael healy, high wycombe says...
2:27pm Mon 23 Nov 09

Can someone advise WDC that the kebab man in Princes Risborough is joining the Masons.............T
hey might leave me alone then.pml

Michael Healy- The Kebab Man

Princes Risborough

Ps. Business as per usual

Townman, High Wycombe says...
3:37pm Mon 23 Nov 09

Are the Emmets in the picture & quoted related to Cllr Roger Emmet the Wycombe District Councillor for the Hambleden Valley? Who is/was a Farmer down that way. He, as their Councillor should be putting forward their views & concerns. That is what he is elected and PAID to do my the Council Tax Payers.

tom.marlow, marlow says...
5:12pm Mon 23 Nov 09

The Emmets are only one of a dozen or so stall holders. This is as much a Marlow issue as a Hambleden Valley issue and the Marlow councillors should be involved.
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Oh, and 678, Henley doesn't have free parking, just a 1hr (50p) refund scheme in the main car park behind waitrose. I don't think WDC is ever going to go for free parking here or anywhere else, it would cost them too much money. However, finding a way round people having to pay a quid for a 10 minute visit to the farmers market would at least be a sign of commitment towards helping local business.

J B Blackett, High Wycombe says...
11:00pm Mon 23 Nov 09

Emmets and their relations ? (ants ? aunts ?)
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I bet they don't outnumber the large number of Copas family (farming-related) members in this area ( are they Copious ?). Sounds like an event that could be refereed by Harry Hill
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It's a Great pity the small farmer and smallholders cannot be Greatly supported in this small-scale enterprise in a small way in Little (small ?) Marlow and Great Marlow by a small-time WD Council with small horizons. Possibly there are a small circle of small members (of the Council) are behind this small-mindedness. Or is that just small talk.
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A small item of good news in this small area would be Great.
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Rgds

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