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Turned away gay B&B couple: we'll decide on court within week
5:37pm Wednesday 7th April 2010 in News By James Nadal
THE gay couple who were turned away from a Cookham Bed and Breakfast say they will decide whether to take the owners to court within a week.
Michael Black, 62, and John Morgan, 56, have also called for Tory leader David Cameron to sack his shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling.
He was secretly taped by the Observer newspaper suggesting he backed the stance of Christians who run B&Bs to turning away guests.
He is quoted as saying: “I took the view that if it's a question of somebody who's doing a B&B in their own home, that individual should have the right to decide who does and who doesn't come into their own home."
However, he said hotels should not have the right to exclude gay couples.
The Observer report has reignited the debate about gay equality laws.
Christian couple Mike and Susanne Wilkinson, who run the Swiss B & B in Terry's Lane first found themselves at the centre of the media storm in March.
They said allowing Mr Morgan, a Lib Dem councillor, and Mr Black, to share a bed went against their beliefs, stating they obey 'God's laws'.
Cambridgeshire resident Mr Black, a Lib Dem supporter, said: “It's bizarre, Mr Grayling appears to be proposing is that people should be free to break the law in accordance with their convictions on religious grounds but he says it's not necessary to change the law which is contradictory in itself.
“That's very worrying in a potential home secretary who would be responsible for law in this country.
“I'm surprised that as far as I know there hasn't been any response from David Cameron.
“It should be a case of David Cameron standing up and saying by sacking him that sort of attitude is not acceptable in the Conservative party.
“You can brush it under the carpet but that doesn't make the point that David Cameron and the Conservatives would be projecting the view that religious beliefs put anybody above the law.”
He added they were close to deciding on civil court action against the Wilkinsons: “We are seeing a mate tomorrow who is a barrister who is going to give us advice and we'll make a decision fairly soon hopefully in the next week.”
But Mr Wilkinson, 55, said he and his wife are happy to stand up for their beliefs in court.
“We believe we have a robust argument and hope the judge will agree,” he said.
He said Mr Grayling's taped comments have sparked further interest in their stance – and even more messages.
He said: “We were very pleased with what he (Mr Grayling) has to say, we believe that this is a very sensible position to take.
“He feels that within a private guest house we should have the option of who we take as guests.
“Personally I would like this to become a matter of debate leading up to the election.
“We continue to get supportive emails from all and sundry including people of faith, not of faith and gay people.
“Also we have had a ton more abuse but on balance we are pleased with the support we have been receiving.”
The couple received threats of violence from strangers, including to burn their house down after the initial story broke.
Mr Black and Mr Morgan have fiercely condemned the threats.
Mr Wilkinson said the calls for Mr Grayling to be sacked were “pretty irrational” considering he had voted in favour of gay equality legislation.
He said the idea that one gay rights outweighed religious convictions was a “democratic imbalance” caused by a “powerful” minority which “thinks it can trample over groups with equally strong views – which is sadly wrong.”
Mr Grayling has since released a statement denying he opposed gay rights and saying he would not be pressing for a change in the law, but felt it was important to respect the sensitivities of faith groups.
Conservative head office would not comment beyond the statement as to Mr Grayling's future.
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Comments (24)
6:22pm Wed 7 Apr 10
Save Wycombe says...
6:49pm Wed 7 Apr 10
Slacker says...
7:32pm Wed 7 Apr 10
Hit me says...
That said, I do believe that they should not be obliged to accommodate anyone - just a shop is not obliged to sell you the goods on its shelves, and just like a nightclub can refuse you entry at their discretion...
7:39pm Wed 7 Apr 10
miccles says...
8:26pm Wed 7 Apr 10
Lividov says...
8:31pm Wed 7 Apr 10
demoness says...
8:48pm Wed 7 Apr 10
BigTommy says...
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Why the wait? or are these two stringing this out to gain as much publicity as they can?
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There comes a point when no matter how just someone's case that they begin to milk it.
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Mr Black and Mr Morgan, you have now stepped beyond the point of trying to make something that was unjust right, and have stepped into "let's become celebrities" mode.
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I no longer support you. If you are going to court then just shut up and do it, stop all this posturing about "maybe we will, maybe we won't".
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It just shows that the complaint is no longer important to them - but showing off to the press is. If it were that important you would have decided already and done something.
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8:50pm Wed 7 Apr 10
tigeran says...
9:01pm Wed 7 Apr 10
sportsturf says...
1:25am Thu 8 Apr 10
J B Blackett says...
Gay Gladiators 1 - Christians 0.
Up to date Bulletins to follow as and when.
8:25am Thu 8 Apr 10
Voyeur says...
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As soon as the Wilkinsons charge people to stay in their home it became a place of business.
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Certainly, if they were allowing people to stay in their home free of charge they could probably turn away anyone they like or don't like.
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But in the conduct of a business you have to comply with the law.
9:30am Thu 8 Apr 10
vocal local says...
12:55pm Thu 8 Apr 10
Lillymoe says...
You or I could be turned away from anywhere, its upto the owner thats life ! They should have called ahead to see if the B&B would accept gays, some dont and it is written on some websites.
I just think they are after money.
This is boring, its life get on with it !
1:42pm Thu 8 Apr 10
Malc London says...
2:35pm Thu 8 Apr 10
678 says...
3:53pm Thu 8 Apr 10
bernaaard says...
What good is it going to do taking this to court. You didnt like what they did so you went crying off to the papers. You got your 5 minutes of publicity, a few whining saddos agreed with your pathetic plight, the rest of us didnt and now you are dragging it out for dramatics.
NOONE CARES !!
There are much worse things going on in this world, and this area for that matter that warrant this space more than you do.
BFP, stop going back to this story, Gay blokes, let it go and lets just all move on eh !
8:06am Fri 9 Apr 10
Gembira says...
8:10am Fri 9 Apr 10
Gembira says...
8:12am Fri 9 Apr 10
Gembira says...
8:15am Fri 9 Apr 10
Gembira says...
2:42pm Fri 9 Apr 10
678 says...
2:59pm Fri 9 Apr 10
bernaaard says...
This is not worth the time or effort of reporting, it is people with nothing to say, saying a lot very loudly.
People are discrimated against all the time, including of all things, positively now.
If we went round making a big deal out of each and every case, you would all be taken to court for some kind of dsicrimination.
And dont sit there being all high and mighty saying it wouldnt be you, cos i bet there is something you are predjudice against if you look deep within yourself.
2:52pm Sat 10 Apr 10
wtfnat says...
7:08am Tue 4 May 10
lonerider7 says...