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Agency shelves Buckinghamshire M40 speed camera plan


PLANS to put average speed cameras between junctions 3 and 4 of the M40 have been shelved.

The Highways Agency had hoped to have the fixed cameras in place by April 2011 (see link), but the scheme did not secure funding for this financial year.

The Highways Agency “intends to continue promoting the scheme in future financial years in the hope of achieving funding”.

It said funding was not secured in 2010/11 due to “a general reduction in budgets and other safety schemes in our region providing a better economic return”.

Last year it was revealed there was a massive drop in crashes and injuries between junctions 2 and 4 when temporary cameras were stationed on three bridges.

There were nine deaths between November 2006 and October 2008 – and this fell to one in the following ten months – when cameras were first operating.

The Bucks Free Press called for action to be taken to make the motorway safer after a year of carnage that began on May 31 2007 when three people were killed and 11 injured in a three-vehicle pile up.

Within a year, six more people were killed in seven accidents. The M40 has no permanent speed cameras in Bucks.

Road studs and raised profile white lines have been installed over half the section between Junctions 3 and 4, while the other half is set to be completed this year.

When the matter was raised at a Buckinghamshire County Council meeting yesterday, transport boss Valerie Letheren said she would keep on “banging on the drum” to get cameras installed.

She said of the Highways Agency: “They aren't very customer friendly. We did have a lot of direct one to ones with them and had some direct commitments. Average speed cameras are something that I believe would work there.

“I had a job to get this answer from them... we'll keep banging on the drum.

Paul Rogerson, Conservative member for Ickneild and Bledlow, raised the issue and told the Bucks Free Press after the meeting: “I'm very disappointed with a result like that. At the moment there's nothing up there to say that is a dangerous stretch of road.

“On that particular stretch you've got the sun straight in your face and it has a particular characteristic to it."

He favours having chevrons painted on the road surface so drivers keep a good distance from each other, but this was ruled out last year.


Comments(13)

Laneender says...
1:09pm Fri 23 Jul 10

Excellent news, these would have killed people.

Voyeur says...
1:43pm Fri 23 Jul 10

Good news

Craig.... says...
1:46pm Fri 23 Jul 10

Laneender wrote:
Excellent news, these would have killed people.
Well said. Nice to see someone else who doesn't believe the propaganda.

Slimster says...
1:53pm Fri 23 Jul 10

Notice how there have been no road deaths along this stretch recently? If they had put the cameras in someone would have claimed they worked, when the real answer is that injuries and fatalities fell due to regression to the mean.

678 says...
1:56pm Fri 23 Jul 10

Slimster wrote:
Notice how there have been no road deaths along this stretch recently? If they had put the cameras in someone would have claimed they worked, when the real answer is that injuries and fatalities fell due to regression to the mean.
so true! Speed doesn't kill drivers, bad driving kills drivers. If they wanted to stop deaths put cameras at junctions where people leve it too late and jump across 3 lanes, or do the same getting on to the motorway

Laneender says...
2:06pm Fri 23 Jul 10

Leaving regression to the mean, the fact that whether the injured or killed were wearing seatbelts isn't recorded and dodgy statistics aside, that now that Bucks Council, HMCS and Thames Valley Police aren't taking a slice of the fines (it goes to the treasury), that education is all of a sudden the best option to bring down deaths on the roads, we have been lied to and I wonder how many people have died as a result through the pursuit of revenue.

thethe says...
2:10pm Fri 23 Jul 10

678 wrote:
Slimster wrote:
Notice how there have been no road deaths along this stretch recently? If they had put the cameras in someone would have claimed they worked, when the real answer is that injuries and fatalities fell due to regression to the mean.
so true! Speed doesn't kill drivers, bad driving kills drivers. If they wanted to stop deaths put cameras at junctions where people leve it too late and jump across 3 lanes, or do the same getting on to the motorway
bad driving causes accidents - excessive speed turns those from accidents resulting in injuries to accidents resulting in death.

Shelley61 says...
3:18pm Fri 23 Jul 10

I predict an increase in accidents on the southbound carriageway between 4 and 3 when the sun rise time hits around 7am... around the beginning of October probably...

As soon as winter starts drawing in, and there's sun glare, or darkness on the early morning commute, chaos seems to ensue.

Slimster says...
3:20pm Fri 23 Jul 10

I wonder why they rules out putting some of those 'two second rule' chevrons along the motorway? THey don't need to be on the steep hill section. These work well where they are used, on the M6 for example. This kind of thing makes people think about their driving for a moment instead of chatting/phoning/tex
ting/shouting at the children/day dreaming.

deecee01 says...
7:23pm Fri 23 Jul 10

678 wrote:
Slimster wrote:
Notice how there have been no road deaths along this stretch recently? If they had put the cameras in someone would have claimed they worked, when the real answer is that injuries and fatalities fell due to regression to the mean.
so true! Speed doesn't kill drivers, bad driving kills drivers. If they wanted to stop deaths put cameras at junctions where people leve it too late and jump across 3 lanes, or do the same getting on to the motorway
I agree with you 678, that is my biggest bug bear when driving on the motorways, those cocky drivers that think it's OK for them to pull right in front of you at the last minute to exit the motorway.

chris740 says...
9:41pm Fri 23 Jul 10

transport boss Valerie Letheren said she would keep on “banging on the drum.

lady you keep banging your drum,
when you get kicked out
im hiring a 6pce jaz band to play as you walk away

hondo says...
8:10am Sat 24 Jul 10

It's quite apparent that no-one but Val Lethern thinks that average speed cameras work.
.
What they do is concertina traffic and while drivers are concentrating on their speedometers instead of their road space, accidents happen.
.
As for the chevrons on the M6, they only work for those prepared to pay attention to them - the locals ignore them.

yezboss says...
3:28pm Sat 31 Jul 10

1) Mr Rogerson, there is no such thing as a 'dangerous road' Just the drivers using it. No road ever hurt anyone.
2)Seeing as we seem to have identified the cause, poor driving not taking into account visibility, how about a bit of overt effective Road Traffic Policing. (and I don't mean 'pretend ones' i.e Highways Agency patrols -just about as much uses as chocolate firegaurds) SPECS cameras do not prevent bad driving, in fact they encourage it.


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