Councillor and community leader named in New Year's Honours (From Bucks Free Press)

What a crock of sh*t. we pay for people to be employed in these jobs so they can get 'honours'?!!! waste of time and money. get them to do a job worthwhile. Anyone over in this country, whatever race colour or creed should accept our ways and stick to them if they want to stay. Before all the slagging off and being accused of being racist etc, take a look at every other country especially our european cousins. They dont take any cr*p from anyone and stick two fingers up at the politically correct approach to foreigners in their country! Why are we made out to be so bad? I think this is the most accepting country in the world to outsiders.

tigeran wrote:
What a crock of sh*t. we pay for people to be employed in these jobs so they can get 'honours'?!!! waste of time and money. get them to do a job worthwhile. Anyone over in this country, whatever race colour or creed should accept our ways and stick to them if they want to stay. Before all the slagging off and being accused of being racist etc, take a look at every other country especially our european cousins. They dont take any cr*p from anyone and stick two fingers up at the politically correct approach to foreigners in their country! Why are we made out to be so bad? I think this is the most accepting country in the world to outsiders.

oh dear .. was it really neccessary tp post that Tirade...
Whatever happened to 'credit where credit is due' or put another way good manners and a Thank you never go amiss or is that too hard for you?
Why so bitter about people who work to help others .. whether paid or not.

wycswan wrote:

tigeran wrote: What a crock of sh*t. we pay for people to be employed in these jobs so they can get 'honours'?!!! waste of time and money. get them to do a job worthwhile. Anyone over in this country, whatever race colour or creed should accept our ways and stick to them if they want to stay. Before all the slagging off and being accused of being racist etc, take a look at every other country especially our european cousins. They dont take any cr*p from anyone and stick two fingers up at the politically correct approach to foreigners in their country! Why are we made out to be so bad? I think this is the most accepting country in the world to outsiders.

oh dear .. was it really neccessary tp post that Tirade... Whatever happened to 'credit where credit is due' or put another way good manners and a Thank you never go amiss or is that too hard for you? Why so bitter about people who work to help others .. whether paid or not.

If you noticed both people 'honoured' are involved with 'ethnic groups' etc, etc. why whenever we here of these people being recognised is it always to do with 'shaping the way for foreiners'?? I am sick to death with the fact the only thing these people who dish out these 'honours' look for is for members of the PC brigade and seem to ignore most others. It is utter rubbish and tripe. I accept that they probably do a very good job but they appear to be thrust far higher than they should and all we ever hear about nowadays is this sort of thing. I really do beleive these 'councilors' look out for opportunities like this to 'look good'. It is so PC influenced it is ridiculous!

Why exactly is she being given an award for services to women, when the group she is appeasing does nothing but degrade the human rights of women, and treat them as second class citizens?

sidthesexist wrote:
Why exactly is she being given an award for services to women, when the group she is appeasing does nothing but degrade the human rights of women, and treat them as second class citizens?

Exactly. Its all about looking good. total rubbish.

They all deserve a pat on the back.
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From a cow

J B Blackett wrote:
They all deserve a pat on the back. . From a cow

LOL!!!

Tigeran - the chairman of High Wycombe's Council for Christian-Muslim Relations is not a paid position, as far as I am aware, it is done by volunteers.
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As far as other EU countries go, I have seen the assimilation of people from other countries in Holland, Denmark and Sweden, so your argument that we are a soft touch in Europe is certainly not true.
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We are in the 21st Century now and it is futile to say "people should do this, or people should do that". We have to work with what we have got and I see only positive things coming out of better Muslim-Christian relations.

Spoken like a true Liberal. Sorry they don't exist, do they - I meant liberal.
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Aren't they the ones who are telling everybody "people should do this , or people should do that" like you say other people shouldn't do - You see you're doing. Is it catching ? In another context it would be called sanctimoniousness.
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What I really wish there was a lot less religion thrust / forced upon people all over the world. That seems to be one of the main roots of the problems we face. Then imo everybody would get on a lot better and there would be no need for these self-appointed self-regarding interfering I-know-better-than-y
ou committees etc.
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If only the religious cults or political lot would leave ordinary people alone , I'm sure we'd all get on a lot better. History tends to prove this , in my humble opinion.
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But what do I know ; I'm a nobody - I'm not even on a committee , for goodness sake.
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Happy New Year (if one is allowed to say that nowadays)

Voyeur wrote:
Tigeran - the chairman of High Wycombe's Council for Christian-Muslim Relations is not a paid position, as far as I am aware, it is done by volunteers. ~ As far as other EU countries go, I have seen the assimilation of people from other countries in Holland, Denmark and Sweden, so your argument that we are a soft touch in Europe is certainly not true. ~ We are in the 21st Century now and it is futile to say "people should do this, or people should do that". We have to work with what we have got and I see only positive things coming out of better Muslim-Christian relations.

You are completely missing my point. I have no doubt there is positivity to be had by this but My point is that it seems to be the trend that if something is not to do with race relations this and race relations that then it seems to be deemed not worthy of any real recognition. I will say it again, people like the above like to be seen to be PC. It is all about image with these people and that is all it seems to be about.

Have to agree with tigeran.
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My own experience of "Christian-Muslim relations" is parallel to tigeran's - the Muslims standing up for the values and way of life they have brought in from their countries of origin. No problem with that in itself, EXCEPT that the British way of life is deemed inferior to theirs, and it is us who must 'adapt' to them.
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Voyeur talks of 'assimilation' but this is not happening. They have not assimilated. The Hugenots in the eighteen century assimilated. How many people identify as a Hugenot now? Nobody. Quite different nowadays with our "British " racial designations; this will continue for generations, as someone with one black great grandmother and all the rest white ancestry could still call themselves "British Mixed Caribbean". Why should that make a difference? What does it matter? Why do they care?
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Instead of making out tigeran as a fascist, think about the subversive facsism we endure from the lackies bolstering this current way of life; perpetuating "multi-culturism" and the ACTUAL racial segregation it brings, and making out normal people concerned about significant changes in their culture to be sub-human and totally unworthy.

If it helps, I trawled through the New Years honours list and most of the awards were for highly paid public sector workers - I kid you not..

Why people are awarded for doing their jobs god only knows.

The Queen doesn't know who you are. It's was given to you by one half of Dumb amd Dumber, Cameron , your boss................
........ I don't know these people know nothing....

mikesmith wrote:
Have to agree with tigeran. ~ My own experience of "Christian-Muslim relations" is parallel to tigeran's - the Muslims standing up for the values and way of life they have brought in from their countries of origin. No problem with that in itself, EXCEPT that the British way of life is deemed inferior to theirs, and it is us who must 'adapt' to them. ~ Voyeur talks of 'assimilation' but this is not happening. They have not assimilated. The Hugenots in the eighteen century assimilated. How many people identify as a Hugenot now? Nobody. Quite different nowadays with our "British " racial designations; this will continue for generations, as someone with one black great grandmother and all the rest white ancestry could still call themselves "British Mixed Caribbean". Why should that make a difference? What does it matter? Why do they care? ~ Instead of making out tigeran as a fascist, think about the subversive facsism we endure from the lackies bolstering this current way of life; perpetuating "multi-culturism" and the ACTUAL racial segregation it brings, and making out normal people concerned about significant changes in their culture to be sub-human and totally unworthy.

Totally agree. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said about the muslims are standing up for THEIR way of life and the Briitish way of life is deemed inferior. We continually bend over backwards to accomodate not only Muslims but every other faiths as well. How much must WE change to accomodate the mutitude of other faiths so that all are happy? Would I get the same respect for my religeon in the middle east countries? No of course not! To be honest I would not expect to as that is their country with their beliefs so why should I? We are by FAR the most accomodating country in the world! It does make me laugh when the imediate response from some people is 'RACIST!!' or 'FACIST!!' I really do think that these people dont really have a view of their own, only that that the tabloids and media spread. If they actually looked at what is really happening they would see that I doubt there will EVER be total integration and I mean from BOTH sides, not just the 'racist' white community........ Racism works both ways but very rarely publicised other than from one side only.

Yes, both the Chairman of CCMR and the Councillors are unpaid volunteers. They dedicate a huge amount of time and effort to make our lot (common people) better.
The Council for Christian Muslim Relations is a body of Community Leaders, Christian Priests and Imams.
It is cow pat (Thank you, J B Blacklett) to say this serious organisation is where the Muslims asset their way of life. This Council meets to further understanding among sections of the HW communities. And it is completely transparent.
Visit http://ccmr-wycombe.
co.uk
Look at what we do, comments to me through that website.
OMG, you could even be persuaded to attend a meeting!
Believe it or not, the CCMR would welcome it.
Baj