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RAF Daws Hill base to be sold by Ministry of Defence
12:13pm Monday 13th June 2011 in News By Simon Farr
RAF Daws Hill to be sold by MoD
RAF Daws Hill will be sold off – paving the way for a new housing estate.
The 67 bungalow site has been put on the market by the Ministry of Defence.
Servicemen, women and their families living on the base will be re-housed, the MoD said.
The MoD said it was disposing of land it no longer requires and ‘this made good business sense for defence operations and to the taxpayer’.
An MoD spokesman said: “The MOD is disposing of land it no longer requires and has decided to include an area of land that contains some service properties - as that will significantly increase the value of the site.
“Service personnel and their families have been consulted and will be offered suitable alternative accommodation and financial assistance to move.”
The site, which was bought by the MoD in 1942, was used as a visiting base for US forces, housing an American school, a bowling alley, shops and workshops.
But the 20 hectare base has been mainly used for storage in recent years, leading to the MoD’s decision to sell it off.
The Daws Hill area has previously been earmarked as a potential site for new homes by Wycombe District Council.
Comments(41)
washondo
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12:49pm Mon 13 Jun 11
yog
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12:56pm Mon 13 Jun 11
J B Blackett
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1:33pm Mon 13 Jun 11
Stand up for England
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1:35pm Mon 13 Jun 11
washondo wrote:come now, you don't think they'll actually be any planning involved ? this is WDC remember!
Infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure.
A VOTER
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2:00pm Mon 13 Jun 11
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Just leave Booker Airfield alone...
KHB1992
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2:35pm Mon 13 Jun 11
A VOTER
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2:43pm Mon 13 Jun 11
KHB1992 wrote:There's a TA Centre at Booker, which would be convenient for the ATC sqn, as there's also an active runway and airfield close by.
Just would like to point at that currently the High Wycombe ATC sqn is based at RAF Daws Hill, so all these suggestions for the proposed new stadium to be there will make the sqn have to move. The cadet movement is usually one that is praised, so we wouldn't want to completley get rid of it over a stadium. So unless you can think of another palce where the cadets can be situated, putting the stadium there would be a bad move.
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Steve Hayes should be made to pay for the relocation, and contribute a couple of light training aircraft for the inconvenience.
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Sorted...
KHB1992
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3:02pm Mon 13 Jun 11
miccles
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3:03pm Mon 13 Jun 11
KHB1992 wrote:Surely whatever happens to that site, being serious, ie housing estate, which is probably more likely the ATC sqn will have to go anyway.
Just would like to point at that currently the High Wycombe ATC sqn is based at RAF Daws Hill, so all these suggestions for the proposed new stadium to be there will make the sqn have to move. The cadet movement is usually one that is praised, so we wouldn't want to completley get rid of it over a stadium. So unless you can think of another palce where the cadets can be situated, putting the stadium there would be a bad move.
wayneo
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3:54pm Mon 13 Jun 11
BOOKERite
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4:56pm Mon 13 Jun 11
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As Daws Hill is in Lesley Clarke's ward she can't very well fight it can she?
Agniesca
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5:53pm Mon 13 Jun 11
Golly
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6:41pm Mon 13 Jun 11
You typical narrow minded in-bred halfwit.
You gave your self interest away with the Leave Booker Airfield alone comment.
Try looking outside of the confines of your mind.
As for chucking a couple of trainers into the deal, get real.
pookey
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6:45pm Mon 13 Jun 11
Mr Totterdge Hill
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7:52pm Mon 13 Jun 11
wayneo wrote:Kerching!
Considering this site was compulsoraily purchased from Wycombe Abbey School School, I'm sure as part of the Chricheldown rules, that the MOD have to offer it back to the Abbey School first.I'm not so sure that the MOD have the right to sell this land.
A VOTER
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8:51pm Mon 13 Jun 11
Golly wrote:Golly.
A Voter
You typical narrow minded in-bred halfwit.
You gave your self interest away with the Leave Booker Airfield alone comment.
Try looking outside of the confines of your mind.
As for chucking a couple of trainers into the deal, get real.
You complete f'in ****.
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Had you been reading my many many previous comments about the stadium, you will have known that I am totally against the stadium in all it’s forms but one. The only version of a new the stadium I would be ok with (not happy with) is one that is paid for by Steve Hayes and his clubs. This is a private venture and therefore should not draw any funding from taxpayers.
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Frankly, given the attendance figures for both clubs, a new stadium is unnecessary.
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My original comments above allude to the fact that it is still likely, that despite the protests, negative comments, anti-stadium campaigns, illegalities, possible corruption et-al, the stadium may well go ahead.
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Bearing in mind that the MoD “WILL” sell this land, it would seem a better choice for a new development, than one that destroys historical heritage, a place of learning and sport, a thriving high-tec business community, and many other positive attributes.
I reiterate that I am against the new stadium in any form, but Daws Hill would, in my opinion, and many others, be a better location, if this is forced upon the community.
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So what’s your small minded perspective or opinion Golly?
A VOTER
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8:54pm Mon 13 Jun 11
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Please would you read into that censorship some highly offensive words that would describe you accurately.
washondo
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9:01pm Mon 13 Jun 11
Golly
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9:20pm Mon 13 Jun 11
Words that
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To be used.
Can you not read? I am saying you are sadly wrong about the Daws Hill site and you show your prejudice by not even reading the post fully before retorting with abuse.
A VOTER
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9:25pm Mon 13 Jun 11
Golly wrote:Golly,
Try finding
Words that
Are suitable
To be used.
Can you not read? I am saying you are sadly wrong about the Daws Hill site and you show your prejudice by not even reading the post fully before retorting with abuse.
I read your post fully.
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You say that I am wrong, yet fail to offer any reason why, other than small minded abuse, hence my retort.
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Then you fail to answer my question to you.
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My abuse to you was in response to your unfounded, and unwarranted abuse at me.
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My abuse at you was in response to your unfounded abuse to me.
wayneo
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9:32pm Mon 13 Jun 11
Golly wrote:Golly, we all have a self-interest else why comment. I note from your pseudonym that you also post on Drunken WASPs and are in favour of the project so before you call people inbred halfwits, perphaps you should declare you own interests first.
A Voter You typical narrow minded in-bred halfwit. You gave your self interest away with the Leave Booker Airfield alone comment. Try looking outside of the confines of your mind. As for chucking a couple of trainers into the deal, get real.
Golly
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9:41pm Mon 13 Jun 11
This is the typical knee jerk reaction we see on the BFP every time rugby is mentioned or, in this case not even mentioned.
A VOTER
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9:49pm Mon 13 Jun 11
Golly wrote:True, this was not about the stadium. But it was about land becoming available for sale, legally in the first instance to Wycombe Abbey.
This was not about the stadium but the blinkered view of what will happen to a bit of land that was reported as up for sale in the paper. The land in daws Hill belongs to the MOD but it has to be offered to Wycombe Abbey if sold as it was commandeered for RAF use during WW2.
This is the typical knee jerk reaction we see on the BFP every time rugby is mentioned or, in this case not even mentioned.
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However, my statement was still a valid one, that the land on offer would be more suitable for an unwanted stadium, than the current WDC choice of booker.
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I am not alone in this opinion, however, you have singled me out for targeted abuse and I therefore feel duty bound to respond accordingly.
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You failed to discuss this topic in a dignified manner, deciding to open with a torrent of ill founded abuse. Then you dislike similar abuse aimed at yourself.
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This is a forum for discussion – Let’s keep it that way.
wayneo
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9:56pm Mon 13 Jun 11
Golly wrote:It's not kneejerk, it's fact.
This was not about the stadium but the blinkered view of what will happen to a bit of land that was reported as up for sale in the paper. The land in daws Hill belongs to the MOD but it has to be offered to Wycombe Abbey if sold as it was commandeered for RAF use during WW2. This is the typical knee jerk reaction we see on the BFP every time rugby is mentioned or, in this case not even mentioned.
Phredd
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8:18am Tue 14 Jun 11
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I was talking to a coach at a local gymnastics club to the north of Wycombe and he tells me that there used to be a gymnastics club that met there until security issues forced it to move in the 1980s.
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He was saying there are at least 2 buildings on the site that his current gym club would be able to use as they are in desperate need of proper training facilities.
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However if the MOD want it to be housing (more bucks per acre) then that's what it will be.
TheHorsesMouth
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1:54pm Tue 14 Jun 11
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As far as I'm aware not all of the Land that the MOD wishes to sell is originally from Abbey School. I may need to check my sources but I understood some may also be Charington's and he's refusing to take it back unless all the concrete is taken out of it (i.e. put back to how it was) Abbey could demand the same!
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Half the Army/Air Force personnel are marching out (i.e. leaving) this October and the rest next April. Plenty of time for the bidding and blogging to continue.
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The majority of the land is Brown belt and old USAF buildings which have not been used for a number of years.
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The housing there is in good order and perfectly sound,...can WDC put a preservation order on it as part of the local Heritage? Somewhat of a pipe-dream!
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Likely to be a lot of houses to be built on that site and if so the Dawes Hill Road needs a serious upgrade!
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New M40 intersection (where stubs are) does make sense and would take the pressure off London Road and Flackwell. Department of Transport would have to see some SENSIBLE plans first,...which would make a change to see any plans for this Stadium fiasco!
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The MOD needs the cash from the sale to pay for rental for the current military tenants as I hear there is no room elsewhere at Strike, Medmenham, etc.
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Stadium would be a shorter walk from the town centre and they could all work up a thrust getting there and roll down afterwards,...Hayes would have to pay for (or finance) it and certainly not the Tax-payers!!!!
sparky49
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4:22pm Tue 14 Jun 11
A VOTER
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4:25pm Tue 14 Jun 11
sparky49 wrote:I'm not sure "ANY" residents want a football club near them.
Not sure the Daws hill residents would want a football club (don't blame them), and the Abbey would certainly not want a football club. Why don't the council and government build much needed social housing on the site, oops! forgot WDC sold theirs off. It will become up market housing for the middle classes yet again depriving those that need housing most social and first time buyers.
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Maybe WDC should just drop the idea?
TheHorsesMouth
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9:48am Wed 15 Jun 11
A VOTER wrote:Nothing wrong with making the current site more serviceable,...as long as Hayes pays.
sparky49 wrote:I'm not sure "ANY" residents want a football club near them.
Not sure the Daws hill residents would want a football club (don't blame them), and the Abbey would certainly not want a football club. Why don't the council and government build much needed social housing on the site, oops! forgot WDC sold theirs off. It will become up market housing for the middle classes yet again depriving those that need housing most social and first time buyers.
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Maybe WDC should just drop the idea?
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Most likely they'll be a mixture of housing at this site 30%-40% affordable; which means some 600+ houses and they'll need a new school to service the primary school aged children.
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Plus as mentioned before, upgrading the road and other infrastructure (sewers, comms & power) along that snaking, speed-bump strewn road.
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Unless most of Abbey barn area was turned into parking for a stadium, that much housing and a stadium would not fit,....forget the community aspect of it too, as that would eat up even more land which is not there!
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Yes WDC should forget the idea,...
sai-diva
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12:32pm Wed 15 Jun 11
Monte Cristo
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3:30pm Wed 15 Jun 11
ts warrant it. It may not be the ideal site, but it is worth considering surely? Well, no, it probably won't be, if Mr Hayes is required to pay anything for it - he wants a free stadium to be supplied by WDC for his private businesses.
TheHorsesMouth
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2:00pm Thu 16 Jun 11
Monte Cristo wrote:Shorter walk from the town centre (breakfast/lunch & shopping), through the Rye and up the boundary of the Abbey School, would improve the circulation of those fans going to watch Rugby/Football and give them some (more) excercise. Though a pleasant & green area of Wycombe to a brownfield site. It sounds a better fit than most other suggested options so far.
Notwithstanding the objections from residents which would occur wherever a new stadium is built, surely using a brownfield site is more preferable than building on green belt land - and more justifiable too, given that building on gree belt can only be done if exceptional circumstances/benefi
ts warrant it. It may not be the ideal site, but it is worth considering surely? Well, no, it probably won't be, if Mr Hayes is required to pay anything for it - he wants a free stadium to be supplied by WDC for his private businesses.
The fans can always Ski\taboggen downhill (in the winter?) from the ski slope (when it is re-openned) to the retail parks in loudwater,...almost like an integrated well thought out plan,...I've had five minutes to think of it and it might just work. Any seconders? Votes please ladies & gents?
Oh and if you can't have a concert at Adams Park because you can't have pop fans on the pitch then you shouldn't be able to on/in a new stadium!
A roar of Rugby/football fans during an afternoon is by far less intrusive that a pop concert late evening? What thinks you all?
A VOTER
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2:12pm Thu 16 Jun 11
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BOOKERite
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2:17pm Thu 16 Jun 11
TheHorsesMouth wrote:I'll second that as long as Mr Hayes pays for it.
Monte Cristo wrote: Notwithstanding the objections from residents which would occur wherever a new stadium is built, surely using a brownfield site is more preferable than building on green belt land - and more justifiable too, given that building on gree belt can only be done if exceptional circumstances/benefi ts warrant it. It may not be the ideal site, but it is worth considering surely? Well, no, it probably won't be, if Mr Hayes is required to pay anything for it - he wants a free stadium to be supplied by WDC for his private businesses.Shorter walk from the town centre (breakfast/lunch & shopping), through the Rye and up the boundary of the Abbey School, would improve the circulation of those fans going to watch Rugby/Football and give them some (more) excercise. Though a pleasant & green area of Wycombe to a brownfield site. It sounds a better fit than most other suggested options so far. The fans can always Ski\taboggen downhill (in the winter?) from the ski slope (when it is re-openned) to the retail parks in loudwater,...almost like an integrated well thought out plan,...I've had five minutes to think of it and it might just work. Any seconders? Votes please ladies & gents? Oh and if you can't have a concert at Adams Park because you can't have pop fans on the pitch then you shouldn't be able to on/in a new stadium! A roar of Rugby/football fans during an afternoon is by far less intrusive that a pop concert late evening? What thinks you all?
A VOTER
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2:47pm Thu 16 Jun 11
I Agree with BOOKERite, so maybe I should VOTE in the recently rejected form of AV:
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1.) Refurbish current grounds
2.) Do nothing
3.) Use Daws Hill (Hayes pays)
4.) Hayes pays 100% of any project
J B Blackett
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5:32pm Thu 16 Jun 11
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They were very popular with most of the people (fans ?) who liked that sort of thing at that time. And those people used to sing a lot of loud songs and wave flags to show their unswerving support for their acclaimed leader (and chairman). He apparently had a rather murky and unfortunate background and came to a sticky end allegedly.
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The WW chairman has only got one allegedly (?) - so far.
TheHorsesMouth
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11:25am Fri 17 Jun 11
A VOTER wrote:Well I'd probably vote as follows:
UPDATE on my VOTE:
I Agree with BOOKERite, so maybe I should VOTE in the recently rejected form of AV:
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1.) Refurbish current grounds
2.) Do nothing
3.) Use Daws Hill (Hayes pays)
4.) Hayes pays 100% of any project
2.) Do nothing
1.) Refurbish current grounds
3.) Use Daws Hill (Hayes pays)
4.) Hayes pays 100% of any project
Which would unfortunately mean the third option would win! With hindsight glad AV didn't....
With PR I would have voted:
2.) Do nothing
1.) Refurbish current grounds
3.) -
4.) -
So we'd have a hung parliament on the first two? So far,...
eniluap
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11:26am Fri 17 Jun 11
GTee
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9:59pm Sun 19 Jun 11
A VOTER
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1:07pm Mon 20 Jun 11
GTee wrote:You're not supposed to know about that....
what about the bunker underneath the site?
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miccles says...
12:36pm Mon 13 Jun 11