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    piran wrote:
    ght478 wrote: ....and the end result will be G4S style policing... you get what you pay for! As for staying out of politics, in general, police officers are non political. It is against the Discipline Code for an officer to belong to a Trade Union, for that very reason. That is why officers rely on their Federation to put their point of view. We are however at the behest of Politicians. Over the years I saw many improvements in the quality and style of policing. There were huge improvements in the quality of officers, and what I didn't say in my last post is "I still work in the policing environment, with and around serving officers. I have seen first hand the effect on morale. We are struggling even now to resource incidents as they come in.. how much worse do you think it will get with these cuts and "reforms". I can say that if the reforms were valid and not just with a view to saving money, the Federation would whole heartedly support them. As they always have. But they are not! The Government have appointed puppet managers to the top ranks, who are only there to do the governments bidding and save money. As for wanting a monopoly, that's not really fair. The laws of the land created the monopoly. Would you really want any other "company" to enforce legislation, just think of the "clampers" At least Police Officers are accountable. In five years time, when these changes have completely altered the face of policing in this country, it will be too late. Ever wonder why various security companies are interested in bidding for involvement in Policing?Just look at who the upper echelons of those companies are. Past Senior Officers from the Police Service, who see a way to make a quick profit, not improve a Public Service. That is why they should be resisted and put to the vote in a referendum.
    I am in the Armed Forces and cannot (and will never) strike, we cannot join Trade Unions, nor do we have a quasi-trade union like the Federation. We serve the nation, we do not criticise the Government in public, we do not behave in a boorish way when Government ministers address us, we have had huge redundancies and many parts have been successfully privatised (both front-line and support). We embrace change and always want to do better with fewer resources. I hope we set a better example than some other “so called servants of the people”!
    The problem is Piran, how far does one have to be pushed before they stop "bending over and taking it" so-to-speak? The armed Forces, as are the Police are resorting to more privately contracted resource which in my opinion is NOT the way to go for Defence and Justice.

    You are right to say "We embrace change and always want to do better with fewer resources", but when we think the Armed Forces in Iraq and Aghan etc, I think the biggest rub is where you have unqualified civil servants interfering in operational duties.

    Look at how many Whitehall press Officers were attached to operational units in Iraq, to ensure that the "right message was being delivered", the amount of procurement cockups and wastage when our chaps are lacking basic equipment etc.

    The Police in this case were already suffering from considerable Political pressure, now, with yet another Quango, their political independence will be challenged further in my opinion.

    As for"
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Wycombe's top cop blasts Home Secretary's decision: "Policing deserves better than this"

Superintendant Gilbert Houalla Superintendant Gilbert Houalla

THE news that Tom Winsor, former lawyer and rail regulator, is the Home Office’s preferred candidate for the role of next Chief Inspector of Her Majesty Inspectorate of Constabulary has been greeted with anger by the Police Federation.

Home Secretary Theresa May, who made the controversial decision, also serves as MP for Maidenhead.

Here Wycombe’s Local Policing Area commander, Superintendant Gilbert Houalla, gives his own views on why he thinks the Home Office has made a mistake in its selection.

“There are those who would argue that policing in the UK should be left alone and spared the pains the public sector has experienced over the years, but I disagree. For many years I have been critical of our own police associations in part responsible for practices which are best left in the 70s. I am an experienced police commander in charge of a demanding local policing area and this government should be able to rely on me for support, unfortunately this is no longer the case.

“The appointment of Tom Winsor as Chief HMI is the straw that broke the camel’s back and this is why: “Policing is a serious business which relies on what I refer to as “non-negotiable” requirements. One is integrity, the other is operational competency. A selection process that compromises any of those in my opinion is at best reckless.

“I invite the Home Secretary to publish the competencies required for the post of Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector of policing, a post more than any other in policing critical in advising the Home Secretary on policing matters. Mr Winsor must have been able to demonstrate his competency in operational policing, over and above two other serving Chief Constables of very large, demanding and successful constabularies . What I am not sure about is how he managed to do that; he is a lawyer for a rail company. If the Home Secretary chose political expedience above the security and safety of her own citizens, then it is unforgivable.

“Many would argue that it is unwise if not career ending for me as a serving police officer to be so critical of the Home Secretary and they would normally be right, but what is happening here is far from normal. Policing deserves better than this.

“At the end of the day those who will ultimately suffer from any bad decision is the public, the same public that we have sworn to serve without fear or favour.”

A statement from the Home Office this week said: "Tom Winsor has been named as the preferred candidate for the role of Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Constabulary. He will appear before the Home Affairs Select Committee before the appointment goes to the Prime Minister and the Queen for approval.”

The Home Office declined to comment further at this time.

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