Sainsbury's set for Prestwood move

3:04pm Wednesday 4th July 2012 in News By Andy Carswell

Sainsbury's are set to move into this empty store in Prestwood Sainsbury's are set to move into this empty store in Prestwood

A SUPERMARKET firm has been granted a licence that will pave the way for them to open a store in Prestwood.

Sainsbury's has been granted a premises licence, which will enable them to trade in the village.

The company has been looking to open one of its 'Local' convenience stores at a vacant retail unit in Wycombe Road.

Chiltern District Council has now agreed to give Sainsbury's a licence, which will allow them to sell goods including alcohol from the store from 7am-10pm.

The move has been met with opposition from villagers, who fear the impact the new store will have existing facilities in Prestwood.

They have particular worries over the future of the Post Office and have also voiced concerns at the lack of car parking places outside the store.

Feedback that Sainsbury's received during a consultation with residents indicated that opinion amongst villagers over the plans was divided.

The company has agreed to cease trading at 10pm, which is earlier than Sainsbury's usual closing time of 11pm, on the back of the consultation.

Meanwhile Chiltern District Council will consider further alterations Sainsbury's wish to make to the building.

The firm has submitted three applications for three different changes, which will all be considered separately.

They are for an air conditioning unit, the installation of a cash machine and for illuminated signs on the front and side of the store. Decisions on the three applications will be made by the council next Thursday, July 12.

Comments (18)

3:22pm Wed 4 Jul 12

Majik says...

Is it not good news that there is an additional service available to the village, rejuvinating an empty shop? It is ironic that villagers complain that it may force other shops to close - the only reason that other shops would close is if THEY stopped using them. I know it's a nice idea to have individual local shops - but if the people prefer to use Sainsburys's, then they've voted with their feet and shouldn't complain if the other shops close. If you can get more selection at a lower price, why is it not better to have a Sainsburys anyway?
Is it not good news that there is an additional service available to the village, rejuvinating an empty shop? It is ironic that villagers complain that it may force other shops to close - the only reason that other shops would close is if THEY stopped using them. I know it's a nice idea to have individual local shops - but if the people prefer to use Sainsburys's, then they've voted with their feet and shouldn't complain if the other shops close. If you can get more selection at a lower price, why is it not better to have a Sainsburys anyway? Majik

3:38pm Wed 4 Jul 12

Mr Vegas says...

I used to have to use the shops there & there was an overpriced store with a load of **** in it. I'd have thought a Sainsbury's would be good for them.
I used to have to use the shops there & there was an overpriced store with a load of **** in it. I'd have thought a Sainsbury's would be good for them. Mr Vegas

3:41pm Wed 4 Jul 12

bobby698 says...

Majik, I have to agree with you. The advent of internet shopping, including bringing food and drink directly to your door has only added to the demise of the traditional corner shop. Let's be absolutely honest, these shops tend to be much more expensive than high street shops - Spar @ Great Kingshill is a classic example. That is the shop which I feel will feel the greatest impact. Or will they being their prices down to compete?
Bring it on, Sainsbury's
Majik, I have to agree with you. The advent of internet shopping, including bringing food and drink directly to your door has only added to the demise of the traditional corner shop. Let's be absolutely honest, these shops tend to be much more expensive than high street shops - Spar @ Great Kingshill is a classic example. That is the shop which I feel will feel the greatest impact. Or will they being their prices down to compete? Bring it on, Sainsbury's bobby698

3:44pm Wed 4 Jul 12

mrdeanswife says...

There are many issues concerning the opening of sainsbury in the village & i think unless you live here you would not fully understand the full impact of it. It is not just the fact that a shop may close, it is the fact we would lose a vital service that the post office provides. The shop is also close to residential homes for elderly, would you want disturbing with early or late deliveries? There is also not much room for parking so would impact on surrounding streets where lots of children play. Im all for choice & the opportunity of some jobs in the village is great news but at what cost.
There are many issues concerning the opening of sainsbury in the village & i think unless you live here you would not fully understand the full impact of it. It is not just the fact that a shop may close, it is the fact we would lose a vital service that the post office provides. The shop is also close to residential homes for elderly, would you want disturbing with early or late deliveries? There is also not much room for parking so would impact on surrounding streets where lots of children play. Im all for choice & the opportunity of some jobs in the village is great news but at what cost. mrdeanswife

4:00pm Wed 4 Jul 12

bobby698 says...

mrdeanswife - firstly, you do not know where I live.
Secondly, how do you know when the deliveries will take place? In general deliveries to these type of outlets take place during working hours in order for the in-house staff to sort out.
The elderly residential homes, I think you will agree, will actually be the same distance from the shop as now.
Children? Playing? I can't recall a playing area near to this site, unles you are advocating playing in the street.
Post Office - you have a point however you have two other offices very near at GM and Cryers Hill. Yes, they will not be able to walk there but unfortunately join the rest of the local villages who have suffered with the loss of an underused and, some would say, overrated postal service.
Did you object to the opening of the chip shop due to the smell? Or the Curry House? What about the pub noise when England play? This is a positive thing for the village; jobs and choice to name but two reasons.
mrdeanswife - firstly, you do not know where I live. Secondly, how do you know when the deliveries will take place? In general deliveries to these type of outlets take place during working hours in order for the in-house staff to sort out. The elderly residential homes, I think you will agree, will actually be the same distance from the shop as now. Children? Playing? I can't recall a playing area near to this site, unles you are advocating playing in the street. Post Office - you have a point however you have two other offices very near at GM and Cryers Hill. Yes, they will not be able to walk there but unfortunately join the rest of the local villages who have suffered with the loss of an underused and, some would say, overrated postal service. Did you object to the opening of the chip shop due to the smell? Or the Curry House? What about the pub noise when England play? This is a positive thing for the village; jobs and choice to name but two reasons. bobby698

4:48pm Wed 4 Jul 12

I Love Ivor says...

"bobby698 says...
4:00pm Wed 4 Jul 12

This is a positive thing for the village; jobs and choice to name but two reasons."

Jobs? You really think Sainsbury's will take on people from the local area? If you do then you as Naive as the people thinking it will bring good to the area!
"bobby698 says... 4:00pm Wed 4 Jul 12 This is a positive thing for the village; jobs and choice to name but two reasons." Jobs? You really think Sainsbury's will take on people from the local area? If you do then you as Naive as the people thinking it will bring good to the area! I Love Ivor

4:57pm Wed 4 Jul 12

bobby698 says...

I Love Ivor wrote:
"bobby698 says...
4:00pm Wed 4 Jul 12

This is a positive thing for the village; jobs and choice to name but two reasons."

Jobs? You really think Sainsbury's will take on people from the local area? If you do then you as Naive as the people thinking it will bring good to the area!
So where, pray tell, are these workers going to come from? Of course they will be local. How else can they get to Prestwood? Bus? LOL! As are all the shop workers in this area, they will be part-timers from the village. Methinks you've been reading a little too much Ivor....
[quote][p][bold]I Love Ivor[/bold] wrote: "bobby698 says... 4:00pm Wed 4 Jul 12 This is a positive thing for the village; jobs and choice to name but two reasons." Jobs? You really think Sainsbury's will take on people from the local area? If you do then you as Naive as the people thinking it will bring good to the area![/p][/quote]So where, pray tell, are these workers going to come from? Of course they will be local. How else can they get to Prestwood? Bus? LOL! As are all the shop workers in this area, they will be part-timers from the village. Methinks you've been reading a little too much Ivor.... bobby698

6:09pm Wed 4 Jul 12

mrdeanswife says...

The chip shop, curry house & pub do not trade from 7am till 10pm 7 days a week so a little different from sainsburys. There are plenty of children who play in the adjoining streets that i know of otherwise i wouldnt have raised the point. Which is where most people will park due to limited space for parking outside shop. I am all for choice but when it comes to saving a few pence on your loaf or having a very vital service of a post office, i know which i would prefer. This unlike a lot of local postoffices is not underused, always a queue when i go in there.
The chip shop, curry house & pub do not trade from 7am till 10pm 7 days a week so a little different from sainsburys. There are plenty of children who play in the adjoining streets that i know of otherwise i wouldnt have raised the point. Which is where most people will park due to limited space for parking outside shop. I am all for choice but when it comes to saving a few pence on your loaf or having a very vital service of a post office, i know which i would prefer. This unlike a lot of local postoffices is not underused, always a queue when i go in there. mrdeanswife

6:28pm Wed 4 Jul 12

bobby698 says...

mrdeanswife wrote:
The chip shop, curry house & pub do not trade from 7am till 10pm 7 days a week so a little different from sainsburys. There are plenty of children who play in the adjoining streets that i know of otherwise i wouldnt have raised the point. Which is where most people will park due to limited space for parking outside shop. I am all for choice but when it comes to saving a few pence on your loaf or having a very vital service of a post office, i know which i would prefer. This unlike a lot of local postoffices is not underused, always a queue when i go in there.
I think you've missed my point. so you had no objection to the smell from the food outlets and the noise from the pub.
Okay. So how on earth can you object to an outlet that will provide local employment?
Lastly, you mentioned the issue of danger to local children playing in local streets re the additional parked vehicles - if you believe this then clearly there IS a need for this shop as more people will use it than use the current one. Plus why won't local people walk there? I think you overexaggerate this issue.
[quote][p][bold]mrdeanswife[/bold] wrote: The chip shop, curry house & pub do not trade from 7am till 10pm 7 days a week so a little different from sainsburys. There are plenty of children who play in the adjoining streets that i know of otherwise i wouldnt have raised the point. Which is where most people will park due to limited space for parking outside shop. I am all for choice but when it comes to saving a few pence on your loaf or having a very vital service of a post office, i know which i would prefer. This unlike a lot of local postoffices is not underused, always a queue when i go in there.[/p][/quote]I think you've missed my point. so you had no objection to the smell from the food outlets and the noise from the pub. Okay. So how on earth can you object to an outlet that will provide local employment? Lastly, you mentioned the issue of danger to local children playing in local streets re the additional parked vehicles - if you believe this then clearly there IS a need for this shop as more people will use it than use the current one. Plus why won't local people walk there? I think you overexaggerate this issue. bobby698

6:34pm Wed 4 Jul 12

Nightingale says...

I will welcome the supermarket in the village, the fruit and veg in the local shops are not in the best of health when they are on the shelves, unless of course you go to Peterlee Farm at higher prices, which not everyone can afford.
I will welcome the supermarket in the village, the fruit and veg in the local shops are not in the best of health when they are on the shelves, unless of course you go to Peterlee Farm at higher prices, which not everyone can afford. Nightingale

9:31pm Wed 4 Jul 12

Sonic1 says...

I would also welcome this store and will be walking there, ( its nearer to me than the co-op!)
I would also welcome this store and will be walking there, ( its nearer to me than the co-op!) Sonic1

11:38am Thu 5 Jul 12

I Love Ivor says...

bobby i think you have missed the point, the pub has been in the village far longer than most of the people that currently live there! The smell from the chip shop is not an issue, its a chip shop for god sake! The issue stands with not the fact it is going to be a Sainsbury's (It could be any of the major supermarkets), it is that there is not the infrastructure at the location for what is involved in and around the supermarket. There is no parking, there is no areas for loading and unloading, it fronts a main road which in turn creates problems in where do the delivery lorries drop of their wares without creating safety issues for other road users. Oh and one more thing, the previous occupier of the unit was told that their permission of planning would not be granted when they want to change the usage on the unit because there was no where for lorries to load and unload and they would only have had lorries doing that once maybe twice a week and not every day!!!
It just goes to show that when Council's have their palms greased by big players they will do anything and everything to help them get their way!!! Chiltern District/Bucks County Council Corruption at its best!!!
bobby i think you have missed the point, the pub has been in the village far longer than most of the people that currently live there! The smell from the chip shop is not an issue, its a chip shop for god sake! The issue stands with not the fact it is going to be a Sainsbury's (It could be any of the major supermarkets), it is that there is not the infrastructure at the location for what is involved in and around the supermarket. There is no parking, there is no areas for loading and unloading, it fronts a main road which in turn creates problems in where do the delivery lorries drop of their wares without creating safety issues for other road users. Oh and one more thing, the previous occupier of the unit was told that their permission of planning would not be granted when they want to change the usage on the unit because there was no where for lorries to load and unload and they would only have had lorries doing that once maybe twice a week and not every day!!! It just goes to show that when Council's have their palms greased by big players they will do anything and everything to help them get their way!!! Chiltern District/Bucks County Council Corruption at its best!!! I Love Ivor

11:52am Thu 5 Jul 12

miccles says...

This sounds like another Tesco Gerrards Cross story, but that shop is thriving now, people use it, it all boils down to "people do not like change", come on mrdeanswife, we all know you will use it once it is opened, and i'm sure I Love Ivor will go in there when nobody is looking.
This sounds like another Tesco Gerrards Cross story, but that shop is thriving now, people use it, it all boils down to "people do not like change", come on mrdeanswife, we all know you will use it once it is opened, and i'm sure I Love Ivor will go in there when nobody is looking. miccles

12:21pm Thu 5 Jul 12

I Love Ivor says...

How can you compare Gerrards Cross with Prestwood? That is like comparing Ivor to Laurance(Whatever his name is now!)?
How can you compare Gerrards Cross with Prestwood? That is like comparing Ivor to Laurance(Whatever his name is now!)? I Love Ivor

12:30pm Thu 5 Jul 12

miccles says...

I Love Ivor wrote:
How can you compare Gerrards Cross with Prestwood? That is like comparing Ivor to Laurance(Whatever his name is now!)?
You don't get the picture. I'm not comparing Gerrards Cross with Prestwood, what i was saying was, "Before Tesco's in Gerrards Cross was built, there was an uproar, just like you are making now, looking at the "againsts", and not the "fors", people were saying how they didn't want it, bla bla bla, but once it was up and running, people never looked back, and there are plenty of local butchers, greengrocers etc in GX.
[quote][p][bold]I Love Ivor[/bold] wrote: How can you compare Gerrards Cross with Prestwood? That is like comparing Ivor to Laurance(Whatever his name is now!)?[/p][/quote]You don't get the picture. I'm not comparing Gerrards Cross with Prestwood, what i was saying was, "Before Tesco's in Gerrards Cross was built, there was an uproar, just like you are making now, looking at the "againsts", and not the "fors", people were saying how they didn't want it, bla bla bla, but once it was up and running, people never looked back, and there are plenty of local butchers, greengrocers etc in GX. miccles

1:10pm Thu 5 Jul 12

I Love Ivor says...

Miccles, don't get me wrong i have looked at the for's and the against's and like i said it doesn't matter which supermarket it is, it is where they are planning on putting it that is the problem. Sainsbury's would have been better buying the Co-Op site in Prestwood, why do we need two Co-Ops within 1 mile of each other?
Miccles, don't get me wrong i have looked at the for's and the against's and like i said it doesn't matter which supermarket it is, it is where they are planning on putting it that is the problem. Sainsbury's would have been better buying the Co-Op site in Prestwood, why do we need two Co-Ops within 1 mile of each other? I Love Ivor

9:24am Fri 6 Jul 12

bluebanana says...

People wont use nearby streets for parking - they will use the road right outside whether parking is allowed or not (& regardless whether it holds up traffic). Just like the lazy people do at the 2 nearby Co-ops in Prestwood & GM where there are perfectly good car parks right next to them. Its not in Co-op's interest to enforce this & the council or police sure aren't going to do anything about it either as there are better things for them to be doing.

So the parking issue really isnt an issue as even if this new shop had adequate parking available, the stubborn, selfish, lazy shoppers wouldnt use it anyway.
People wont use nearby streets for parking - they will use the road right outside whether parking is allowed or not (& regardless whether it holds up traffic). Just like the lazy people do at the 2 nearby Co-ops in Prestwood & GM where there are perfectly good car parks right next to them. Its not in Co-op's interest to enforce this & the council or police sure aren't going to do anything about it either as there are better things for them to be doing. So the parking issue really isnt an issue as even if this new shop had adequate parking available, the stubborn, selfish, lazy shoppers wouldnt use it anyway. bluebanana

10:30am Sat 7 Jul 12

bobby698 says...

I do agreee with the parking issue at the Co-Op; the parking outside is illegal, particularly on the zig-zag lines which can and should result in 3 points on your licence.
Definitely worth speaking with the local law and asking them to enforce that bit of road.
I also agree that there is not enough suitable parking for the new Sainsbury's, however they are very clever; when they make their application to the council they insist that the shop is a LOCAL shop and therefore most customers will walk there as opposed to using a car. Plus the fact there are already shops this means it is almost inevitable they will be allowed to open.
Rightly or wrongly, Sainsbury's is coming; let's take the positive view: local jobs plus a decent selection of goods. It's not all bad. I believe the Co-Op has most to lose here.
I do agreee with the parking issue at the Co-Op; the parking outside is illegal, particularly on the zig-zag lines which can and should result in 3 points on your licence. Definitely worth speaking with the local law and asking them to enforce that bit of road. I also agree that there is not enough suitable parking for the new Sainsbury's, however they are very clever; when they make their application to the council they insist that the shop is a LOCAL shop and therefore most customers will walk there as opposed to using a car. Plus the fact there are already shops this means it is almost inevitable they will be allowed to open. Rightly or wrongly, Sainsbury's is coming; let's take the positive view: local jobs plus a decent selection of goods. It's not all bad. I believe the Co-Op has most to lose here. bobby698

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