Coffee shop plans turned down (From Bucks Free Press)

You should have applied to open an Tesco's Extra and you have got permission

Typical NIMBY attitudes....
give them a McDonalds !!!

Nothing worse than the aroma of fresh coffee and homebaking.........

How ridiculous. An increase in traffic?! A small coffee shop is unlikely to attract people from miles around who will make a special journey just to visit. It is, however, ideally placed to catch passing trade, vehicles who would be using the road anyway. So parking may be an issue but not an 'increase in traffic'! This is a busy road already so a coffee shop is unlikely to affect the safety of local children.

Its obvious here that they were scraping the bottom of the barrel for reasons to object to this. Sadly, this is yet another case of NIMBY. How this country is supposed to progress & grow economically with an abundance of NIMBYs is a mystery. But of course the NIMBYs are alright so thats all thar matters.

I'm glad I don't like out that way. I like coffee

I think Prestwood folk quite like the place the way it is. Decent chippy, dump of a pub over the road, but decent pubs at the Kingshill & Missenden ends. Traffic is a problem in the middle, surely no one can deny that ?

Green Man: decent?! Each to their own I suppose. I wouldn't say traffic is a problem necessarily. Depends what you mean by problem. Speeding - yes. HGV's ignoring the weight restriction at the GM end - yes. Congestion - no.

Shame on Prestwood folk. This attitude towards small business is want is fundamentally keeping this country in recession.
Hope none of the objectors have a day out and grab a bite to eat whilst out in someone else's village.

The neighbours may have valid grounds for complaint. After all nobody wants the dregs of society swilling about outside your residence.
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But a nice cup of proper coffee helps alleviate the daily grind - even though some people don't appear to give a bean.
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Let's hope some good news might eventually filter through.

"irreversibly harm the street scene and attractiveness of the area "...what a load of tosh. I suppose the local supermarket blends in perfectly then?

Absolutely stupid. I feel really sorry for the applicant - hopefully they will appeal this.

Bad smells? As somebody else stated freshly baked cakes and coffee? Awful smell! Not!

From the picture above it seems there is space for vehicles to park on site too - And with the new Costas in Bourne End and Flackwell I dont see "increased traffic issues" around there.

Pathetic.

"The plans were rejected by the council after they cited the road not being wide enough to cope with an increase in traffic and there being insufficient room for parking as reasons for refusal."
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And yet WDC Planning have given planning permission to build two houses in the very small car park of the Live and Let Live pub, in spite of the road not being wide enough, (indeed it is on a bridleway that doesn't even belong to WDC) and insufficient parking (there is a very small layby that, once again doesn't belong to WDC).
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Why has planning permission been refused to open a small business which is what this country needs, but has been agreed to developers to build houses in inappropriate areas?

News has just percolated through that the cafe mightl blend in well with its neighbourhood.

BOOKERite wrote:
"The plans were rejected by the council after they cited the road not being wide enough to cope with an increase in traffic and there being insufficient room for parking as reasons for refusal."
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And yet WDC Planning have given planning permission to build two houses in the very small car park of the Live and Let Live pub, in spite of the road not being wide enough, (indeed it is on a bridleway that doesn't even belong to WDC) and insufficient parking (there is a very small layby that, once again doesn't belong to WDC).
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Why has planning permission been refused to open a small business which is what this country needs, but has been agreed to developers to build houses in inappropriate areas?

If no-one / not many people objected then that might have a bearing on the decision. There are minimum requirements for all new developments in terms of parking, access etc but these minimums are usually inadequate (but it gets them through planning). But at the end of the day, different planning authorities dont have to be consistent with one another and common sense is sadly replaced by planning laws.

'Unpleasant smells' - is this to be an Amsterdam style coffee shop maybe? Although that smell is not unpleasant but a rather nice, warm aroma.

bluebanana wrote:

BOOKERite wrote:
"The plans were rejected by the council after they cited the road not being wide enough to cope with an increase in traffic and there being insufficient room for parking as reasons for refusal."
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And yet WDC Planning have given planning permission to build two houses in the very small car park of the Live and Let Live pub, in spite of the road not being wide enough, (indeed it is on a bridleway that doesn't even belong to WDC) and insufficient parking (there is a very small layby that, once again doesn't belong to WDC).
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Why has planning permission been refused to open a small business which is what this country needs, but has been agreed to developers to build houses in inappropriate areas?

If no-one / not many people objected then that might have a bearing on the decision. There are minimum requirements for all new developments in terms of parking, access etc but these minimums are usually inadequate (but it gets them through planning). But at the end of the day, different planning authorities dont have to be consistent with one another and common sense is sadly replaced by planning laws.

In fact there were quite a lot of objections to the planning application for the development of the Live and Let Live - so why did they ignore them and give consent?
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What I was alluding to was the fact that planning permission seems to be given more readily to developers than it is to small business and private individuals. Why?

Bounty8 wrote:
Shame on Prestwood folk. This attitude towards small business is want is fundamentally keeping this country in recession. Hope none of the objectors have a day out and grab a bite to eat whilst out in someone else's village.

Err, no, the Country's in recession because of incapable and inept politicians who turned a blind eye to the irresponsible and crass lending decisions of the major banks,. what's keeping us IN recession (including those of us who did not contribute to it), is the same/similiar Government, instead of making business more affordable by lowering taxes actually increasing the burden to business, along with the major corporates not paying their dues but nevertheless are expodentially raising their costs well above inflation.

You cant blame everything on the government! This issues falls directly at the door of the local authority, where the buck stops. Small businesses feed larger businesses. Just as 1st time buyers dictate the strength of the housing market.

Anyway its not all about money. Improving as a country is also about quality of living & the standard & variety of goods & services that are available. Personally, the more businesses that start up, the better, as its more competition & better value for us consumers.

J B Blackett wrote:
The neighbours may have valid grounds for complaint. After all nobody wants the dregs of society swilling about outside your residence.
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But a nice cup of proper coffee helps alleviate the daily grind - even though some people don't appear to give a bean.
.
Let's hope some good news might eventually filter through.

Brilliant!

J B Blackett wrote:
The neighbours may have valid grounds for complaint. After all nobody wants the dregs of society swilling about outside your residence.
.
But a nice cup of proper coffee helps alleviate the daily grind - even though some people don't appear to give a bean.
.
Let's hope some good news might eventually filter through.

Brilliant!