Big cat enthusiast: There are pumas in Bucks (From Bucks Free Press)

What would be really interesting to know is how many lions have ever been observed in the open in the UK and subsequently retrieved.

Is it many?

Slow news day

'a beast of Bucks expert'

LOL!

I blame the late Alan Cleaver for starting dross like this.

I know for a FACT there are big cats in Bucks. I have set up several large traps to catch them. So far I have caught 3 small cats, 2 dogs, a rambler, and a deer. Unfortunately they were all injured, so I had to put them down. It is only a matter if time until I catch a big cat.

Marmite XO wrote:
I know for a FACT there are big cats in Bucks. I have set up several large traps to catch them. So far I have caught 3 small cats, 2 dogs, a rambler, and a deer. Unfortunately they were all injured, so I had to put them down. It is only a matter if time until I catch a big cat.

LOL - serve them all right!

You are right - carry on long enough and I am sure you will catch a big cat - do you use any kind of bait - Colonel Jim Corbett the man-eating tiger hunter used to use a tethered goat?

(See: http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Jim_Corbett
_(hunter))

ImpeturbableLawrence wrote:

Marmite XO wrote:
I know for a FACT there are big cats in Bucks. I have set up several large traps to catch them. So far I have caught 3 small cats, 2 dogs, a rambler, and a deer. Unfortunately they were all injured, so I had to put them down. It is only a matter if time until I catch a big cat.

LOL - serve them all right!

You are right - carry on long enough and I am sure you will catch a big cat - do you use any kind of bait - Colonel Jim Corbett the man-eating tiger hunter used to use a tethered goat?

(See: http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Jim_Corbett

_(hunter))

I think dead rambler, particularly a junior school teacher or council official, would be very tempting to a puma or perhaps a blogger (guess which one I am thinking of?)

ImpeturbableLawrence wrote:

ImpeturbableLawrence wrote:

Marmite XO wrote:
I know for a FACT there are big cats in Bucks. I have set up several large traps to catch them. So far I have caught 3 small cats, 2 dogs, a rambler, and a deer. Unfortunately they were all injured, so I had to put them down. It is only a matter if time until I catch a big cat.

LOL - serve them all right!

You are right - carry on long enough and I am sure you will catch a big cat - do you use any kind of bait - Colonel Jim Corbett the man-eating tiger hunter used to use a tethered goat?

(See: http://en.wikipedia.


org/wiki/Jim_Corbett


_(hunter))

I think dead rambler, particularly a junior school teacher or council official, would be very tempting to a puma or perhaps a blogger (guess which one I am thinking of?)

(I meant a blogger as bait of course - not that they would be tempted to eat a rambler.)

On closer inspection I think you'll find that the animal in the photo is in fact a domestic cat that thinks he's a lion...

Are these animals usually sighted around closing time?

Can't confirm pumas

But I can confirm that the following big cats have been seen in the Wycombe area:

Cougars - most nights looking for young men

Jaguars - driven erratically by so-called businessmen

Lynx - worn by chavs hoping to pull

Let me ge this right, 3 different people from the same part of wycombe emailed him with sightings of a lion/puma/leopard in their back garden. They took the time to find out this mans email address (hmm lets google for big cat man in Bucks) and none of them got a photo or called the police? Hmm

katodeza wrote:
Are these animals usually sighted around closing time?

No, that's the disgruntled Romans on the Rye looking for their house.

i live in herts and have seen a black puma twice over 20 odd years of hearing about it .. it looks to be a large male
with the pattern of puma clearly visible under the black fur
the first time was at 3 am in woods
wheres its cry scared the hell out of me and my dog
the second time was a day after a horse was attacked in hertfordshire it was lurking around a field with goats in
a friend witnissed this with me
it didnt feel threatend by us and looked us up and down and walked off into the darkness this was at least twice the size of the goats it was watching

people who post doubtfull comments probably havent stepped out the house in a while and watch too much tv

Rattled_Cage wrote:
i live in herts and have seen a black puma twice over 20 odd years of hearing about it .. it looks to be a large male
with the pattern of puma clearly visible under the black fur
the first time was at 3 am in woods
wheres its cry scared the hell out of me and my dog
the second time was a day after a horse was attacked in hertfordshire it was lurking around a field with goats in
a friend witnissed this with me
it didnt feel threatend by us and looked us up and down and walked off into the darkness this was at least twice the size of the goats it was watching

people who post doubtfull comments probably havent stepped out the house in a while and watch too much tv

i live in herts and have seen a black puma twice over 20 odd years of hearing about it .. it looks to be a large male
with the pattern of puma clearly visible under the black fur

According to the puma page on the Feline Conservation Federation website:
‘Its coat is a uniform tawny color with lighter under- parts and white on the chin and throat. It sports a white moustache’
(See: http://www.felinecon
servation.org/ and http://www.felinecon
servation.org/feline
_species/cougar.htm#
newsform).

the first time was at 3 am in woods wheres its cry scared the hell out of me and my dog

I suppose you said it had a cry rather than a roar but according to the FCF: ‘Despite its size, it is a lesser cat and cannot roar.’ Foxes and muntjac deer amongst other creatures, make strange barking noises at night in the woods – did you actually see a puma making its cry?

the second time was a day after a horse was attacked in hertfordshire it was lurking around a field with goats in

Perhaps I am guessing incorrectly but I suppose you mention the horse that was ‘attacked’ to suggest it was attacked by a wild creature like the ‘puma’ that was ‘lurking’ near the goats. Cats of all kinds are finely-tuned hunting and killing machines with teeth and muscles completely adapted to this purpose – if it were otherwise their ancestors would have starved to extinction or evolved into herbivores. Why should a puma only ‘attack’ a horse and why did it only ‘lurk’ near the goats? Did any of the goats go missing shortly afterwards and if so was the goat’s carcass found nearby with the marks of being butchered by the teeth and mouth of a feline twice its own size?
This is where all the stories of wild predatory beasts start to go pear-shaped. In those countries where puma and other large cats are part of the native fauna they are apex predators in a large eco-system hunting to live – the evidence of their prey being captured and consumed is to be found in the open. When they become too old to do this they die or become man-eaters or eaters of cattle and domestic animals (Jim Corbett, whom I mentioned below refers to this). Why are there no man-eating pumas in Beds, Bucks, Herts or Oxon?
If there were puma loose in the Home Counties then it would be an established fact by now and there would be film of them going back some years. (Possibly being talked to dangerously close by Steve Irwin or discoursed about intelligently at a sensible distance by a younger David Attenborough.) Muntjac deer - a Chinese native species - are well-established locally - no one says: ‘that sounds like a description of a muntjac deer – good lord man are you sure that’s what you saw?’ – we know they are there and lots of people have seen them - I have posted film of them on YouTube.
Why have no pumas been photographed as road kill? Puma would leave behind evidence that would be obvious to an intelligent naturalist – it is possible to see the footprints of badger, fox, hedgehog, and deer and the tracks and holes in hedges by which make their way around at night, if you walk in the woods and fields around here during the daytime and keep your eyes open.

people who post doubtfull comments probably havent stepped out the house in a while and watch too much tv

With respect I wonder how much time the author of your post spends out of doors watching the natural world - people who live in glass houses et cetera.

im not here to be dubunked by a text warrior many members of my family have lived as farm hands and 2 uncles as game keepers .
theres been many sightings in luton.bedford,herts,
highwycome,watford hosp, and a few covered by this paper
a freedom of information request to local police reveals 70 sightings over the past 10 years
i dont see the cat as being a threat to humans unless cornered
your links refer to a cougar anyway
i wouldnt report any sightings to protect this cats existance in the wild .

im not here to be dubunked by a text warrior

I’m not a warrior and I can’t see the relevance of the fact that

many members of my family have lived as farm hands and 2 uncles as game keepers .

theres been many sightings in luton.bedford,herts,

highwycome,watford hosp, and a few covered by this paper

You mean there have been reports of sightings – quite a few people during that time have seen UFOs and ghosts and some people claim to have been abducted by the inhabitants of the UFOs. This paper when Alan Cleaver was an editor wrote shamefully silly ‘news reports’ - recently Cleaver returned for a guest column and recalled a story they had done about a (real) dragon at Bledlow Ridge. Have you and your relations seen any dragons in Herts?

a freedom of information request to local police reveals 70 sightings over the past 10 years

You mean ‘reports of possible sightings’

i dont see the cat as being a threat to humans unless cornered

I don’t see them as a threat because they’re not there doubtless if they were and they were to be cornered you would be proven right.

your links refer to a cougar anyway

My link says they are the same thing: (‘Common Name(s): Puma, Mountain Lion, Cougar’)

i wouldnt report any sightings to protect this cats existance in the wild .

Fair enough – me neither (if they existed).

"the first time was at 3am..."...

i have better things to do than wander through the woods at 3am trying toi spot pumas!

Good eyesight though to be able to spot the pattern through black fur at that time of night !!

I can't believe this is news, a cougar has been pursuing me for years.

I have seen the Puma like cat along Watery Lane in 2009 I was walking back from Tesco Loudwater as I was walking down the hill past the woodland there was theese big glowing eyes staring at me there was greeny blue like shining from the moonlight it was nightime an very dark i looked it up in one of my cat books Pumas eyes are blue green like the cat I saw with my own eyes I stood there with my shopping just staring into its eyes for almost 15 -20 mins before I continued walking home it did not follow just watched me as I walked home i'm gathering I was of no threat to it or it would of proberly attacked me but it dident it just stood there a least guessing roughtly 20 inches away from me. It just watched me
I could sense its eyes upon me I wasent afraid though more surprised I saw such a cat so close to my home before. It was unusual and a little scary for me seeing my children
wouldve been without a mother if it choosed to attack me or see me as a meal. My heart never pounded so much in my life.

ZGluchy wrote:
I have seen the Puma like cat along Watery Lane in 2009 I was walking back from Tesco Loudwater as I was walking down the hill past the woodland there was theese big glowing eyes staring at me there was greeny blue like shining from the moonlight it was nightime an very dark i looked it up in one of my cat books Pumas eyes are blue green like the cat I saw with my own eyes I stood there with my shopping just staring into its eyes for almost 15 -20 mins before I continued walking home it did not follow just watched me as I walked home i'm gathering I was of no threat to it or it would of proberly attacked me but it dident it just stood there a least guessing roughtly 20 inches away from me. It just watched me
I could sense its eyes upon me I wasent afraid though more surprised I saw such a cat so close to my home before. It was unusual and a little scary for me seeing my children
wouldve been without a mother if it choosed to attack me or see me as a meal. My heart never pounded so much in my life.

before you ask this is a true storey

ZGluchy says...
11:55am Fri 31 Aug 12

I have seen the Puma like cat along Watery Lane in 2009 I was walking back from Tesco Loud Water as I was walking down the hill past the woodland there was these big glowing eyes staring at me there was green blue like shining from the moonlight it was night time an very dark I looked it up in one of my cat books Pumas eyes are blue green like the cat I saw with my own eyes I stood there with my shopping just staring into its eyes for almost 15 -20 mins before I continued walking home it did not follow just watched me as I walked home I’m gathering I was of no threat to it or it would of properly attacked me but it didn’t it just stood there a least guessing roughly 20 inches away from me. It just watched me
I could sense its eyes upon me I wasn’t afraid though more surprised I saw such a cat so close to my home before. It was unusual and a little scary for me seeing my children
Would’ve been without a mother if it chooses to attack me or see me as a meal. My heart never pounded so much in my life.”

Before you ask this is a true storey”

ZGluchy wrote:
I have seen the Puma like cat along Watery Lane in 2009 I was walking back from Tesco Loudwater as I was walking down the hill past the woodland there was theese big glowing eyes staring at me there was greeny blue like shining from the moonlight it was nightime an very dark i looked it up in one of my cat books Pumas eyes are blue green like the cat I saw with my own eyes I stood there with my shopping just staring into its eyes for almost 15 -20 mins before I continued walking home it did not follow just watched me as I walked home i'm gathering I was of no threat to it or it would of proberly attacked me but it dident it just stood there a least guessing roughtly 20 inches away from me. It just watched me
I could sense its eyes upon me I wasent afraid though more surprised I saw such a cat so close to my home before. It was unusual and a little scary for me seeing my children
wouldve been without a mother if it choosed to attack me or see me as a meal. My heart never pounded so much in my life.

LOL.

a woman I work with has lived in the countryside all her life and she was walking in oxfordshire with her husband and saw a very large puma like cat (brownish colour) sitting in a field. They kept very still and watched it for some time . they saw it very clearly and are not the type of people to confuse it with any other animal. they did not report it in case it would get hunted and shot and also because they guess they would not be believed. I also have had a possible sighting of a very large black cat (size of a labrador) saw it twice - but as it was only fleeting I would not credit it as a positive sighting. So tbh I dont really care what you doubters think. I am convinced.

katodeza wrote:
Are these animals usually sighted around closing time?

Possibly. At what time do zoos usually close ?

ZGluchy wrote:
ZGluchy says...
11:55am Fri 31 Aug 12

I have seen the Puma like cat along Watery Lane in 2009 I was walking back from Tesco Loud Water as I was walking down the hill past the woodland there was these big glowing eyes staring at me there was green blue like shining from the moonlight it was night time an very dark I looked it up in one of my cat books Pumas eyes are blue green like the cat I saw with my own eyes I stood there with my shopping just staring into its eyes for almost 15 -20 mins before I continued walking home it did not follow just watched me as I walked home I’m gathering I was of no threat to it or it would of properly attacked me but it didn’t it just stood there a least guessing roughly 20 inches away from me. It just watched me
I could sense its eyes upon me I wasn’t afraid though more surprised I saw such a cat so close to my home before. It was unusual and a little scary for me seeing my children
Would’ve been without a mother if it chooses to attack me or see me as a meal. My heart never pounded so much in my life.”

Before you ask this is a true storey”

Do you mean like the top floor of on the Sainsbury's' car park ?

jansus wrote:
a woman I work with has lived in the countryside all her life and she was walking in oxfordshire with her husband and saw a very large puma like cat (brownish colour) sitting in a field. They kept very still and watched it for some time . they saw it very clearly and are not the type of people to confuse it with any other animal. they did not report it in case it would get hunted and shot and also because they guess they would not be believed. I also have had a possible sighting of a very large black cat (size of a labrador) saw it twice - but as it was only fleeting I would not credit it as a positive sighting. So tbh I dont really care what you doubters think. I am convinced.

Wonder if it was a labrador.

TBH until someone finds a roadkill puma in this area or the adjoining counties I am going to use my commonsense and remain unconvinced.

ImpeturbableLawrence wrote:

jansus wrote:
a woman I work with has lived in the countryside all her life and she was walking in oxfordshire with her husband and saw a very large puma like cat (brownish colour) sitting in a field. They kept very still and watched it for some time . they saw it very clearly and are not the type of people to confuse it with any other animal. they did not report it in case it would get hunted and shot and also because they guess they would not be believed. I also have had a possible sighting of a very large black cat (size of a labrador) saw it twice - but as it was only fleeting I would not credit it as a positive sighting. So tbh I dont really care what you doubters think. I am convinced.

Wonder if it was a labrador.

TBH until someone finds a roadkill puma in this area or the adjoining counties I am going to use my commonsense and remain unconvinced.

No it was not a labrador - I have one so I know what one looks like (:- I used it to compare sizes - it also did not move like a dog. but If you read my post I did not claim a definite sighting . but the couple I work with did see one. Thats why I am convinced.

jansus wrote:

ImpeturbableLawrence wrote:

jansus wrote:
a woman I work with has lived in the countryside all her life and she was walking in oxfordshire with her husband and saw a very large puma like cat (brownish colour) sitting in a field. They kept very still and watched it for some time . they saw it very clearly and are not the type of people to confuse it with any other animal. they did not report it in case it would get hunted and shot and also because they guess they would not be believed. I also have had a possible sighting of a very large black cat (size of a labrador) saw it twice - but as it was only fleeting I would not credit it as a positive sighting. So tbh I dont really care what you doubters think. I am convinced.

Wonder if it was a labrador.

TBH until someone finds a roadkill puma in this area or the adjoining counties I am going to use my commonsense and remain unconvinced.

No it was not a labrador - I have one so I know what one looks like (:- I used it to compare sizes - it also did not move like a dog. but If you read my post I did not claim a definite sighting . but the couple I work with did see one. Thats why I am convinced.

Okay - goodnight!

This is all rather exciting..... I've just heard a cuckoo.....and think I've found polar bear droppings on my drive.

Scarletto wrote:
This is all rather exciting..... I've just heard a cuckoo.....and think I've found polar bear droppings on my drive.

That doesnt mean anything tho cos you've got a long history of association with mental illness

see

http://www.bucksfree
press.co.uk/yoursay/
opinion/yourletters/
9647556.It_reflects_
a_society_in_rebelli
on_against_God/

The Nomad wrote:
Can't confirm pumas But I can confirm that the following big cats have been seen in the Wycombe area: Cougars - most nights looking for young men Jaguars - driven erratically by so-called businessmen Lynx - worn by chavs hoping to pull

Brilliant ha ha ,