Cllr: A town council is needed in High Wycombe (From Bucks Free Press)

This is true. We do need a town Council in Wycombe.

Just having a committee is for the sake of the ruling Tory's to keep control.

The leading Conservative group will always vote to keep a Tory as the Chairman of the Committee, so to keep control of the agenda and decisions made.

This is a terrible loss of democracy - as we don’t get to vote for Town Cllrs we have to make do with unelected committee members.

Ironically it is very similar to the Communist Party!
It is time now for WDC to have a Wycombe Town Council.

What Wycombe needs now
Is cronies, more cronies
No, not just for BCC
But for everyone….

Lord we don't need another council
There are council and sarnies enough for all
There are cronies, and luvvies and oppulance
Enough for all, until it's cronies time

(with apologies to Petula Clark)

There wouldn’t be any more 'cronies' needed - as most would be the same people.

Instead of having a Communist type committee the Town would have its own Council working within Wycombe District Council.

In the same way that Marlow and the other surrounding towns do.

It means that we get nice things for the town rather than the mess that we see in Frogmore.

Also I believe that we should get rid of WDC and BCC and merge them into a Unitary Council - but that will not happen as the ruling Tory party will not let it for as long as they are in power.
The sad truth is that only a very small handful of people in Wycombe want things to stay as they are and they are the local Conservative party members/Cllrs, etc

Wycombe you certainly do not need a Town council. Just take the example of Aylesbury Town Council, it is a disaster the Lib Dems have for many years run it as their own personal fiefdom, they even put out of a leaflet with the Town Council's crest next to the Lib Dem dead parrot and even appointed one of their own Cllrs and agents as Town Clerk. Read the Bucks Herald to see what has happened there, legal reasons restrict me commenting further. Out of a budget of just shy of a Million yes a Million, they run a cemetery, well I say run - we have had people buried in the wrong graves and an extension project that has so far cost thousands and has been dragging on for years. They do some events, the most of which are funded through the Town Centre partnership or District Council anyway, allotments which also have problems. Yes they comment on local planning, but so can the Cllr's who have already been elected onto the district council to represent Aylesbury. Proper procedures for procurement are lacking as are it seems regulations for the management and welfare of staff. And despite their rather large budget over 65% YES 65% is kept in reserves in the bank. I think even some who campaigned for a Town Council in Aylesbury have now regretted their actions. I'm a Cllr on this town council and my hair has gone grey since my election last year.

So let’s see which party is again campaigning for a Town Council in Wycombe? You have been warned by the example of Aylesbury.

My own personal view is I think Aylesbury and Wycombe and elsewhere in Bucks would be far better off if we went down the route of unitary, with the district council's taking over the powers of Bucks County Council as per Milton Keynes example.

Not sure why the above comemnt appeared under the name you see it should show as Mark Winn ande I'm also a Town and district Cllr in Aylesbury

onemarcus wrote:
Wycombe you certainly do not need a Town council. Just take the example of Aylesbury Town Council, it is a disaster the Lib Dems have for many years run it as their own personal fiefdom, they even put out of a leaflet with the Town Council's crest next to the Lib Dem dead parrot and even appointed one of their own Cllrs and agents as Town Clerk. Read the Bucks Herald to see what has happened there, legal reasons restrict me commenting further. Out of a budget of just shy of a Million yes a Million, they run a cemetery, well I say run - we have had people buried in the wrong graves and an extension project that has so far cost thousands and has been dragging on for years. They do some events, the most of which are funded through the Town Centre partnership or District Council anyway, allotments which also have problems. Yes they comment on local planning, but so can the Cllr's who have already been elected onto the district council to represent Aylesbury. Proper procedures for procurement are lacking as are it seems regulations for the management and welfare of staff. And despite their rather large budget over 65% YES 65% is kept in reserves in the bank. I think even some who campaigned for a Town Council in Aylesbury have now regretted their actions. I'm a Cllr on this town council and my hair has gone grey since my election last year.

So let’s see which party is again campaigning for a Town Council in Wycombe? You have been warned by the example of Aylesbury.

My own personal view is I think Aylesbury and Wycombe and elsewhere in Bucks would be far better off if we went down the route of unitary, with the district council's taking over the powers of Bucks County Council as per Milton Keynes example.

http://www.aylesbury
valedc.gov.uk/counci
llors/288/ A DISGRUNTLED TORY IT WOULD SEEM -- why not stand in Wycome and join the shortsighted and like minded Tories who are destroying Wycombe Town and doing exactly the things you the things you say are happening in Aylesbury !!!
Perhaps we can hear from the Leader of Aylesbury Town council please

People who don't live in Wycombe Town don't give a jot / fig / toss / thought / etc for the Town. What happens in the Town maybe down to a councillor who lives in Reading or another county and doesn't any connection to the town except for turning up for the (inconvenient) occasional meeting.
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What it doesn't need is quotes from proven anti-democratic arrogant close-minded pompous ensconced idiots like the the one mentioned above.
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One has 'admire' the aforementioned councillor for consistently talking unsubstantiated unfounded ill-researched rubbish and other stuff throughout his political 'career'. He was 'green' when he started and he is still green.
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Well to be honest if PRTC is anything to go by, then we certainly do NOT need another council.

These bunch of bafoons seem to spend all the time arguing, they want to spend taxpayers money, on non essentials, they have ruined the town with that pathetic one way system, so best leave it alone.

PRTC is a prime example of NOT to vote independent, they will never get anywhere.

townraider wrote:

onemarcus wrote:
Wycombe you certainly do not need a Town council. Just take the example of Aylesbury Town Council, it is a disaster the Lib Dems have for many years run it as their own personal fiefdom, they even put out of a leaflet with the Town Council's crest next to the Lib Dem dead parrot and even appointed one of their own Cllrs and agents as Town Clerk. Read the Bucks Herald to see what has happened there, legal reasons restrict me commenting further. Out of a budget of just shy of a Million yes a Million, they run a cemetery, well I say run - we have had people buried in the wrong graves and an extension project that has so far cost thousands and has been dragging on for years. They do some events, the most of which are funded through the Town Centre partnership or District Council anyway, allotments which also have problems. Yes they comment on local planning, but so can the Cllr's who have already been elected onto the district council to represent Aylesbury. Proper procedures for procurement are lacking as are it seems regulations for the management and welfare of staff. And despite their rather large budget over 65% YES 65% is kept in reserves in the bank. I think even some who campaigned for a Town Council in Aylesbury have now regretted their actions. I'm a Cllr on this town council and my hair has gone grey since my election last year.

So let’s see which party is again campaigning for a Town Council in Wycombe? You have been warned by the example of Aylesbury.

My own personal view is I think Aylesbury and Wycombe and elsewhere in Bucks would be far better off if we went down the route of unitary, with the district council's taking over the powers of Bucks County Council as per Milton Keynes example.

http://www.aylesbury

valedc.gov.uk/counci

llors/288/ A DISGRUNTLED TORY IT WOULD SEEM -- why not stand in Wycome and join the shortsighted and like minded Tories who are destroying Wycombe Town and doing exactly the things you the things you say are happening in Aylesbury !!!
Perhaps we can hear from the Leader of Aylesbury Town council please

I have no connection with the Town Council and I have no idea as to the accuracy of the claims Mr Winn makes. All I can say is that Aylesbury became so much better once we freed ourselves from the control of an arrogant Tory clique, of which Mr Winn is obviously a member, who consider themselves borh to rule but don't actually lift a finger to improve things for anyone else.

People of High Wycombe, it is not for me to tell you how you should run your town. But when coming to your decision, pay no attention to Mr Winn, for he has not a clue what he talks about.

Not one of the insulting comments in reply to my comment, none of which are worthy of reply, says why it would be so much much better if you had another tier of local Government in Wycombe.

No one is born to rule not me or anyone else and no one should as the above puts it not me or anyone else. But trying to pretend a toothless town council would improve issues in Wycombe is if Aylesbury's example is to be believed is wrong. It would merely add more taxes for you to pay.

Tony Green is right! Can't you all see how the people of Princes Risborough are all confused because they have a Town Council? All the people of Marlow are confused because they have a Town Council. All the people of Aylesbury are confused because they have a Town Council. The people of High Wycombe can see straight simply because they do not have a Town Council!

Voyeur wrote:
Tony Green is right! Can't you all see how the people of Princes Risborough are all confused because they have a Town Council? All the people of Marlow are confused because they have a Town Council. All the people of Aylesbury are confused because they have a Town Council. The people of High Wycombe can see straight simply because they do not have a Town Council!

High Wycombe has become the dumping ground for building, its been systematically stripped of its assets/heritage and its income from its sale of assets is used to fund Tory pet projects.
Until we have a council to protect us from WDC we will suffer !!

What Wycombe does not need is another layer of council! We do not need to stump up more of our hard earned cash to pay for party lackeys and their pet schemes.

WDC pays little attention to the town and parish councils when their wishes conflict with thiers!

If there was to be a Town Council for High Wycombe, there would be little extra cost to the taxpayer because the town residents already pay a precept to pay for the Town Committee.

If Town and Parish Councils are alright for the rest of Buckinghamshire and the rest of the country, why is a Town Council being denied to the people of the town of High Wycombe?

Tony Green's spurious argument that it would confuse people just does not hold water, as it is self evident that the rest of Bucks manages with a Town or Parish Council without the sky falling in on them!

Green comes across as an arrogant pompous opinionated but clueless councillor with a track record of backing losers like 'The Stadium' etc and doing and saying the exact opposite of what the people of Wycombe actually want and need.
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I would have greater faith in voting for the mouldering remains of either of the Kray twins after they'd been dug up and put up for election to the local council. At least neither of those rotting relics would not issue the utter tripe that this councillor is renowned for.
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This Green councillor is claiming the the people of Wycombe are so thick / uneducated/unintelli
gent as to not understand what every other voter in the county accepts as their democratic right.
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So much for this councillor's Party buzzword and battle cry of 'localism'. What a load of two-faced hypocrites.
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onemarcus wrote:
Not one of the insulting comments in reply to my comment, none of which are worthy of reply, says why it would be so much much better if you had another tier of local Government in Wycombe.

No one is born to rule not me or anyone else and no one should as the above puts it not me or anyone else. But trying to pretend a toothless town council would improve issues in Wycombe is if Aylesbury's example is to be believed is wrong. It would merely add more taxes for you to pay.

Actually as someone who has lived in Wycombe all her life and who is now living in Aylesbury, I can tell you categorically that Aylesbury is the much nicer town - it is more attractive, it has loads more to do and there is much more of a community feel about it.
Wycombe deserves better - it needs its own council like Aylesbury does.