Row over town councils blooming between councillors

Cllr Walford Woolf ridiculed these plants outside Sainsbury's... Cllr Walford Woolf ridiculed these plants outside Sainsbury's...

A BIZARRE row over the effectiveness of town councils is blossoming between two councillors – with the state of their town’s flowerbeds at the centre of it.

Wycombe District Cllr Tony Green, and Cllr Walford Woolf of Princes Risborough Town Council have crossed swords about the efficiency and effect of town councils.

Cllr Green stated earlier this month that a town council was not needed in Wycombe as it ‘adds an extra layer of bureaucracy and cost’ to taxpayers – pointing to the council tax rise in Risborough over the last ten years as an example.

But Cllr Woolf took exception to Cllr Green’s “spiteful campaign” against Risborough and called High Wycombe town centre an ‘untidy mess’ due to the lack of attention it receives as a result of no town council looking after it.

The battle has raged on this week and, seemingly, will be decided on each town’s respective abilities to make an eye catching flower arrangement.

The first blow was landed by Cllr Woolf, who sent Cllr Green and the BFP two photos – one of a sorry-looking plant pot outside Sainsbury’s in Oxford Road, High Wycombe, and the other of a colourful display in Bell Street, Princes Risborough.

Cllr Woolf said: “I know which one I am proud to be associated with, and which one should be a resigning matter due to blatant lack of interest by local council members who should be on top of this kind of thing.

“The High Wycombe town, of whose principal committee you chair, is a mess, and photographs cannot lie. The exchanges of dialogue which you instigated in the BFP could be likened to an episode of Only Fools and Horses, only this isn't funny.”

But Cllr Green picked himself off the metaphorical canvas and hit back with his own photographic evidence of Wycombe’s planting prowess by sending in a snap of the vibrant flowerbeds in the old library gardens in Queen Victoria Road, High Wycombe.

He said: “As for your choice of photographs to try to prove that in Princes Risborough you take more care of the flower beds than we do in Wycombe, I had already explained the planters outside Sainsbury's are the responsibility of the supermarket not the District Council.

“If you want a direct comparison of flowers under the control of the respective councils, I attach a photo of a flower bed in the old library gardens which is maintained by the District Council. This, I believe, is a fairer comparison than the one you selected.

“Nowhere in my comments to the Bucks Free Press did I mention you other than to say that you get upset whenever I state that Council Tax in Princes Risborough is higher than it is in High Wycombe.

“This is not a derogatory remark; it is a statement of fact. Explaining that Town and Parish Councils often have higher precepts than High Wycombe is, again, a statement of fact, not an insult.”

Comments(7)

Darren Hayday says...
10:05am Mon 17 Sep 12

Tony Green could stop using the excuse that the flower beds are the responsibility of Sainsbury’s and nothing to do with us gov - and lift up a phone and speak to the Store Manager to ask them to give them some TLC...

I'm sure that the Store Manager at Sainsbury’s would find it no trouble and willing to help to make the Town Centre seem more attractive.

It's ironic that Wycombe is the only town in the whole of Buckinghamshire that doesn’t have a Town Council - only so that the Conservatives can keep in power.

Meaning that in the meantime we have all of these empty shops and places like the High Street and Frogmore look like a completely different place compared to Eden..

Come on - give us democracy - give us a Town Council instead of playing party politics.

The main topic of the current Town 'committee' that was being discussed for the last 10 years plus was how to tackle the pigeons (who are still very much still with us!!)

Get local people involved, and let’s clean up the Town Centre and make it look nice and clean like Marlow and Princes Risborough, etc
Whatever happened to the BIG SOCIETY? Or is it one rule for the Tories and another for everyone else?

miccles says...
1:07pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Whether we need a town council or not, why is it that these Risborough Independents always interfere and cause tension with everybody else.

No matter what state these flowers are in, i think the PRTC better look at the damage they have done to their own town, ie spending £60,000 plus on a one way system that cloggs up the main A4010 most of the time, or they are very insecure people.

The Independents are a bunch of no hopers.

townraider says...
4:21pm Mon 17 Sep 12

I would like to hear from Marlow Town Council.
The Marlovians are quick to have a view where Marlow is concerned. Perhaps they might want to have an opinion on the benefits of Town Councils and if Wycombe would also benefit ?

Come on Speak up Marlow!!!!

Wycid says...
4:55pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Plants, really?? what a pathetic thing to have a row about. Its just my opinion but there is a for and against of having a town council. Its all well and good having one but th bottmn line is they do cost money, somebody has to pay for them that somebody will be the residents of High Wycombe. Your council tax will go up FACT. thats the downside and if theyre working hard to improve the area and generally improving the standard of life in High Wycombe for the majority of its residents thats something I'm willing to accept. However a town council will only be as good as the people serving on it and unfortunatly from what I can see most people get into politics either because theyre not very good at anything else or because they have an agenda of somesort. Now if that agenda is to improve the life of local residents or constituents then great. If its party politics or personal missions then not so good and most people reading this probably have a fair idea as to how it will end up. You'll end up paying more in council tax so someone with there own agenda can spend your money on there pet projects which make little or no difference to you. hope to be proved wrong but this is what I expect to see happening.

yog says...
6:21pm Mon 17 Sep 12

We don't need a new Council we just need some reforms to the existing ones.

1. Rename Bucks County Council to Bucks Unitary Authority.

2. Remove from Wycombe District Council any Councillors representing an area already covered by a Town/Parish Council.

3. Rename Wycombe District Council as Wycombe Town Council.

4. Previous work of Wycombe District Council - devolve downwards to Parishes/Towns where possible or up to Bucks Unitary.

Now where is that 'added' level of bureaucracy and cost?

Voyeur says...
10:52pm Mon 17 Sep 12

If Tony Green had the best interests of the people of High Wycombe in his mind, he would not continually argue that a Town Council is not needed. Oh, I forgot, he is the chairman of the Town Committee with a paid role.

faircuppa says...
11:19pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Yog has a good plan, but where and when will it start? No new Unitaries are planned so the only action is to petition for a Town Council then lobby Conservative MPs for a Unitary for Bucks. They won't support it because they rely on Tory Councillors to support them financially and in elections.
Yog, how would we get out of that cul de sac?

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