Princes Risborough town clerk signed off with work related stress

The Princes Centre in Clifford Road where the town council meetings now take place The Princes Centre in Clifford Road where the town council meetings now take place

TEMPERS flared on Tuesday night as a town council discussed the temporary absence of a clerk who has been signed off with work related stress.

Cllr Adrian Rolfe said it is Princes Risborough Town Council's responsibility to sort out the issues, so the clerk, Sue Griffiths, can return to work.

At the council's monthly meeting Cllr Rolfe said she had been signed off with work related stress, initially for a month, but potentially longer and asked whether there was a need for another clerk in the meantime.

Cllr Alan Turner suggested asking deputy clerk, Kirsty Pope, to step up to the role and to pay her more. But as discussions continued tempers flared.

Cllr Reg Orsler said: "It is unfortunate the clerk is indisposed in this way. Are we as an individual council wholly to blame?

"As I understand it she has three other jobs as well."

Cllr Turner said she has stepped back from a couple of her other roles a while ago.

Cllr Rolfe said: "We are the employer at the end of the day. We have got a member of staff who has been signed off with work related stress. It is down to us to sort it out.

"If we sort it out she will come back to work."

He went on to say the problem needs to be sorted adding: "I will come out in the open and say what the reasons are behind it."

Cllr Orsler said he was not aware she had given up some of her other jobs, to which Cllr Turner reiterated she is paid by the council who are responsible.

Cllr Orsler added: "I think that would add to the stress though, wouldn't it?"

Cllr Rolfe then said: "The stress is in this town council not any where else," to which Cllr Orsler replied: "I don't know that."

Cllr Rolfe then said: "If I have to make a statement to the press I will have to. She needs respect and needs to be left alone to do her job and she does not need to be stressed out by certain people."

Cllr Will Streule said he does not think it is appropriate to discuss a medical condition in an open meeting.

The council decided to call a meeting to discuss the issue further in private and it was agreed Mrs Pope should be paid more while she fills in for Mrs Griffiths.

Comments(26)

Dr James says...
10:00am Thu 27 Sep 12

If I where Sue Griffiths , I would be persuing both the council and the press for monetary damages for discussing her medical condition in a public forum, which will obviously add to her stress, Ms Griffiths I would advise you to seek legal council in this matter, you could get quite a bit of money.

miccles says...
10:04am Thu 27 Sep 12

This town coucil should be abolished, and a proper party put in place.

These councillors need looking into.

Catflap says...
10:19am Thu 27 Sep 12

Dr James i totally agree, to have your personal life discussed in this way is ver unprofessional.
From the carry on reported i am not surprissed. Can't someone just bang their heads together and tell them to grow up

Stand up for England says...
12:08pm Thu 27 Sep 12

At the council's monthly meeting Cllr Rolfe said she had been signed off with work related stress, initially for a month, but potentially longer and asked whether there was a need for another clerk in the meantime.

and further on ....
"As I understand it she has three other jobs as well."

so she's not able to do these jobs either ?.. what a load of cobblers.
.. we've all got stress at work; get over it.

J B Blackett says...
1:01pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Everybody is different and also can suffer different degrees of stress - whether at work or not.
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And we are also individuals who can or can or can not cope with stress what level and severity it is applied in.
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There is never one simplistic answer to emotional / intellectual problems too.
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Some people with 'opinions' can be so self-centred , self-opinionated , so arrogant and forceful in their views , but so thick-skinned they do not empathize with or understand people with stress and its associated problems.
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Perhaps there are people like that on PR council and that's where the source of these problems are - like one of the councillors obliquely hints at.
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Me, just me says...
2:03pm Thu 27 Sep 12

'Cllr Will Streule said he does not think it is appropriate to discuss a medical condition in an open meeting.

The council decided to call a meeting to discuss the issue in private and it was agreed Mrs Pope should be paid more while she fills in for Mrs Griffiths.'

I would be very annoyed if i was either Mrs Pope or Mrs Griffiths. This is not information that should be in the local paper....its enough to send you out on stress leave...I would seek legal advice

pennperson says...
6:27pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Poor judgement by both the council and the bfp to air this in public domain

bashby1 says...
7:40pm Thu 27 Sep 12

pennperson wrote:
Poor judgement by both the council and the bfp to air this in public domain
I think it's disgraceful that this private matter was discussed in a public forum. However reading the transcript it's fairly clear that one particular Councillor has an issue or personal grievance with the Clerk and if this is the case then this would be a cause of stress for anyone. It's not uncommon for a Clerk to be the victim of harassment. Now that this matter is in the public domain the Council needs to stand up and support its staff and address this issue as a matter of urgency. If this happened in the private sector then this would be dealt with immediately.

MrsFBucks says...
9:56pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Stand up for England wrote:
At the council's monthly meeting Cllr Rolfe said she had been signed off with work related stress, initially for a month, but potentially longer and asked whether there was a need for another clerk in the meantime.

and further on ....
"As I understand it she has three other jobs as well."

so she's not able to do these jobs either ?.. what a load of cobblers.
.. we've all got stress at work; get over it.
Agreed!! If you can't deal with so many jobs, give some up and give them to people that don't have any instead of claiming sick pay!!!

Whiteleaf says...
8:50am Fri 28 Sep 12

Stress? What a load of rubbish. Typical 21st century cobblers. Sack her and get someone in who wants the job and has a bit of backbone.

Ghost_of_Plato says...
9:31am Fri 28 Sep 12

If the BFP did some proper reporting they would find out why Mrs Griffiths is off with stress. While clearly neither she nor anyone else can say anything public at this juncture, I know she has been subject to some staggeringly appalling harrassment issues and, in fact, has shown remarkable self-restraint. As for 'Stand Up for England', 'MrsFBucks' and Whiteleaf's' idiotic observations, I can assure you it has nothing to do with her other jobs and suggest you comment on things you might actually know something about. It is indeed shameful this has been given space in the paper.

fair say says...
11:14am Fri 28 Sep 12

I feel sorry for Mrs Griffiths and her office staff, they have to deal with the P.R. town councillors who act like children most of the time. Maybe it's time that these councillors start acting as adults and not children. That way the office staff can get on with there job without hassle.

Stand up for England says...
11:44am Fri 28 Sep 12

Ghost_of_Plato wrote:
If the BFP did some proper reporting they would find out why Mrs Griffiths is off with stress. While clearly neither she nor anyone else can say anything public at this juncture, I know she has been subject to some staggeringly appalling harrassment issues and, in fact, has shown remarkable self-restraint. As for 'Stand Up for England', 'MrsFBucks' and Whiteleaf's' idiotic observations, I can assure you it has nothing to do with her other jobs and suggest you comment on things you might actually know something about. It is indeed shameful this has been given space in the paper.
... and what makes them idiotic views? You clearly know more so spill the beans. What are the other jobs she's doing? Has she taken leave from them as well? Why can't she say anything at this juncture? As Council tax payers, think we have a right to know where our money's being spent or wasted. If she can't do the job, then move on.

miccles says...
11:58am Fri 28 Sep 12

Stand up for England wrote:
Ghost_of_Plato wrote:
If the BFP did some proper reporting they would find out why Mrs Griffiths is off with stress. While clearly neither she nor anyone else can say anything public at this juncture, I know she has been subject to some staggeringly appalling harrassment issues and, in fact, has shown remarkable self-restraint. As for 'Stand Up for England', 'MrsFBucks' and Whiteleaf's' idiotic observations, I can assure you it has nothing to do with her other jobs and suggest you comment on things you might actually know something about. It is indeed shameful this has been given space in the paper.
... and what makes them idiotic views? You clearly know more so spill the beans. What are the other jobs she's doing? Has she taken leave from them as well? Why can't she say anything at this juncture? As Council tax payers, think we have a right to know where our money's being spent or wasted. If she can't do the job, then move on.
Stand up for England

You have a very bitter attitude, just like these councillors, do you know that, cos if you didn't, you do now.

Whiteleaf says...
1:51pm Fri 28 Sep 12

For God's sake, the woman sits in an office, she'd not mining coal underground or skippering a trawler in the North Sea. Stress???
That's an excuse the workshy use.
Tell her to be back at her desk on Monday morning, or that's it, her P45 will be in the post. WE pay this woman's wages. It's a disgrace .

J B Blackett says...
3:33pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Whiteleaf wrote:
For God's sake, the woman sits in an office, she'd not mining coal underground or skippering a trawler in the North Sea. Stress???
That's an excuse the workshy use.
Tell her to be back at her desk on Monday morning, or that's it, her P45 will be in the post. WE pay this woman's wages. It's a disgrace .
Calm down , dear. You sound all stressed out.

Snowcap says...
3:37pm Fri 28 Sep 12

miccles wrote:
Stand up for England wrote:
Ghost_of_Plato wrote:
If the BFP did some proper reporting they would find out why Mrs Griffiths is off with stress. While clearly neither she nor anyone else can say anything public at this juncture, I know she has been subject to some staggeringly appalling harrassment issues and, in fact, has shown remarkable self-restraint. As for 'Stand Up for England', 'MrsFBucks' and Whiteleaf's' idiotic observations, I can assure you it has nothing to do with her other jobs and suggest you comment on things you might actually know something about. It is indeed shameful this has been given space in the paper.
... and what makes them idiotic views? You clearly know more so spill the beans. What are the other jobs she's doing? Has she taken leave from them as well? Why can't she say anything at this juncture? As Council tax payers, think we have a right to know where our money's being spent or wasted. If she can't do the job, then move on.
Stand up for England

You have a very bitter attitude, just like these councillors, do you know that, cos if you didn't, you do now.
miccles wondered how long it would be before you came out of the woodwork. the cllrs at risborough do a sterling job, if you think you can do better then get off your fat butt and do something! they put in a great deal of time to do their best! You on the other hand carp on about the most ludicrous things and know very little about real life. May I suggest that you attempt to put something back into the community? with regards to fair say if she can do better then get off her butt and try and get on this poorly organised council. with regards to Ms Griffiths, as I understand it she has brought that town council out of the dark ages and put it on the map, by becoming a best value council amongst other qualifications GOOD for her. sadly we do have the small minded people such as miccles that have nothing better to do. so miccles.... get a life!!!

MrsFBucks says...
3:46pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Stand up for England wrote:
Ghost_of_Plato wrote: If the BFP did some proper reporting they would find out why Mrs Griffiths is off with stress. While clearly neither she nor anyone else can say anything public at this juncture, I know she has been subject to some staggeringly appalling harrassment issues and, in fact, has shown remarkable self-restraint. As for 'Stand Up for England', 'MrsFBucks' and Whiteleaf's' idiotic observations, I can assure you it has nothing to do with her other jobs and suggest you comment on things you might actually know something about. It is indeed shameful this has been given space in the paper.
... and what makes them idiotic views? You clearly know more so spill the beans. What are the other jobs she's doing? Has she taken leave from them as well? Why can't she say anything at this juncture? As Council tax payers, think we have a right to know where our money's being spent or wasted. If she can't do the job, then move on.
Agreed!

miccles says...
4:47pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Snowcap wrote:
miccles wrote:
Stand up for England wrote:
Ghost_of_Plato wrote:
If the BFP did some proper reporting they would find out why Mrs Griffiths is off with stress. While clearly neither she nor anyone else can say anything public at this juncture, I know she has been subject to some staggeringly appalling harrassment issues and, in fact, has shown remarkable self-restraint. As for 'Stand Up for England', 'MrsFBucks' and Whiteleaf's' idiotic observations, I can assure you it has nothing to do with her other jobs and suggest you comment on things you might actually know something about. It is indeed shameful this has been given space in the paper.
... and what makes them idiotic views? You clearly know more so spill the beans. What are the other jobs she's doing? Has she taken leave from them as well? Why can't she say anything at this juncture? As Council tax payers, think we have a right to know where our money's being spent or wasted. If she can't do the job, then move on.
Stand up for England

You have a very bitter attitude, just like these councillors, do you know that, cos if you didn't, you do now.
miccles wondered how long it would be before you came out of the woodwork. the cllrs at risborough do a sterling job, if you think you can do better then get off your fat butt and do something! they put in a great deal of time to do their best! You on the other hand carp on about the most ludicrous things and know very little about real life. May I suggest that you attempt to put something back into the community? with regards to fair say if she can do better then get off her butt and try and get on this poorly organised council. with regards to Ms Griffiths, as I understand it she has brought that town council out of the dark ages and put it on the map, by becoming a best value council amongst other qualifications GOOD for her. sadly we do have the small minded people such as miccles that have nothing better to do. so miccles.... get a life!!!
You got a problem???????

Even a blind man can see where you lie.

dexterbarney says...
7:01pm Fri 28 Sep 12

I think Cllr Orsler knows full well why the clerk has had to be signed off. Yet he has the audacity to try and shift the blame onto her other jobs!! This man need to be exposed for what he is. His sordid habits are having a direct result on a person's ability to do their job, and is preventing the council from functioning as it should do.

meoldmucker says...
10:28pm Fri 28 Sep 12

dexterbarney wrote:
I think Cllr Orsler knows full well why the clerk has had to be signed off. Yet he has the audacity to try and shift the blame onto her other jobs!! This man need to be exposed for what he is. His sordid habits are having a direct result on a person's ability to do their job, and is preventing the council from functioning as it should do.
good on you Dexter for naming n shaming,its a total disgrace how the very hard working n wonderful town clerk has been treated,its no wonder she has been signed off from her very important role,the residents of princes risborough if you are proud of your town n passionate i urge you to support your town clerk in this matter.

meoldmucker says...
10:43pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Whiteleaf wrote:
For God's sake, the woman sits in an office, she'd not mining coal underground or skippering a trawler in the North Sea. Stress???
That's an excuse the workshy use.
Tell her to be back at her desk on Monday morning, or that's it, her P45 will be in the post. WE pay this woman's wages. It's a disgrace .
once the truth comes out,you might wanna apoligise to the town clerk for you comment,believe me........

Whiteleaf says...
9:01am Sat 29 Sep 12

So what are Cllr Orsler's ' sordid habits' and how have they made this woman all stressful? We all have to work alongside some right d**kheads - what makes this woman SO fragile?
You can't tell half the story then expect everyone to go along with you.

Ghost_of_Plato says...
11:19am Sat 29 Sep 12

You must have an embarrassingly poor knowledge of English law if you think a matter, almost certainly heading for the courts or a tribunal, can be discussed freely on the webpages of a paper. Again I would ask why you and others think you have the right to condemn when you know nothing of the circumstances? The epitome of small-mindedness.

Whiteleaf says...
11:41am Sat 29 Sep 12

You're the one, so you say, who has the FACTS. So tell the whole story. If you won't - then of course others will comment on what is known. Put up or shut up G.O.P.

Snowcap says...
12:52pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Ghost_of_Plato wrote:
You must have an embarrassingly poor knowledge of English law if you think a matter, almost certainly heading for the courts or a tribunal, can be discussed freely on the webpages of a paper. Again I would ask why you and others think you have the right to condemn when you know nothing of the circumstances? The epitome of small-mindedness.
Well said Ghost-of-Plato, at last you are the one to bring sense into the debate /conversation.What this poor lady is going through is no laughing matter indeed it is very serious and should not at any time be treated in such a trivial manner. Shame on you whiteleaf.

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