Appeal failure for man who raped a girl in High Wycombe

Bucks Free Press: Geoffrey Stoneham Geoffrey Stoneham

A RAPIST who tried to have his sentence cut for naming his accomplice in the attack has failed in his appeal.

Geoffrey Stoneham escaped justice for nearly 30 years and was jailed for eight years in 2009 for the brutal rape of a 17-year-old girl in High Wycombe in 1980.

Lawyers acting for the 66-year-old, of Walnut Way, Swanley, told London's Criminal Appeal Court he should have his sentence reduced because he named a second man who raped the same girl.

But his appeal was yesterday dismissed by top judges, who said his decision to reveal the other rapist was not motivated by remorse and only came after he had already been sentenced.

Stoneham pleaded guilty to the offence in October 2009 - changing his mind on what was due to be the first day of a trial, having earlier denied the charge - but kept the identity of his accomplice, 63-year-old Norman Stanley, secret until January the following year.

The court heard that while giving a statement to police, Stoneham claimed he played a 'secondary' role in the crime and repeatedly referred to the incident as a 'so-called rape' - despite previously having declared his guilt.

In turn Stanley, of Great Billington, Bedfordshire, claimed he only became involved because he was put under duress by Stoneham.

However, the jury at his trial disbelieved his story and he was jailed for nine years after being convicted of rape at Aylesbury Crown Court in July 2010.

Stoneham's lawyers urged the Appeal Court judges to reduce his jail term, in light of the assistance he gave the prosecution in bringing Stanley to justice.

But, dismissing the appeal, Lord Justice Pitchford said the court could not - three years later - intervene and treat him as though he had given the information before his sentence.

The judge said even if he had been willing to help as soon as he was arrested, there would have been no reason to reduce his jail term.

He added: "He was clearly not motivated by remorse or by any desire to tell the truth but by a wish to put the blame on Stanley."

The two men raped their 17-year-old victim in Micklefield Road in April 1980, the court heard.

As she was returning from the cinema with her boyfriend, she passed Stoneham, who then grabbed her from behind and thrust a pointed article into her back - which she believed was a knife.

He dragged her up a railway embankment, where Stanley was waiting, and the pair took it in turns to rape her before leaving and telling her they would kill her if she moved before five minutes was up.

The terrified victim gathered up her clothes and ran home before reporting the incident to police.

Her attackers remained at large until a cold case review in 2008, during which DNA samples taken at the time were found to be a match for Stoneham.

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10:35am Wed 31 Oct 12

tigeran says...

Hang him. Why bother with spending money keeping him in a cell.
Hang him. Why bother with spending money keeping him in a cell. tigeran
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11:31am Wed 31 Oct 12

Stand up for England says...

tigeran wrote:
Hang him. Why bother with spending money keeping him in a cell.
I'll gladly supply the rope !! ... hope he receives all he deserves ... vile scum!
[quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: Hang him. Why bother with spending money keeping him in a cell.[/p][/quote]I'll gladly supply the rope !! ... hope he receives all he deserves ... vile scum! Stand up for England
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12:03pm Wed 31 Oct 12

realist_highwycombe says...

Firstly, I remember reading this when he was first arrested and just hope that his victim has managed to move on with her life in a positive way (despite having to prepare for court as the vile pig could not plead guilty straight away!)

Secondly, it just highlights the need for a national DNA database so people like this can no longer evade justice for so long.

We have so many crimes where people are not caught despite having a DNA profile at the scene, surely this needs to change?

It is simple in that if you were not there and didnt do it you have no case to answer.And if you were at a scene you would be interviewed like everyone else would.

And lastly, I hope every single day he spends in prison is utter hell!
Firstly, I remember reading this when he was first arrested and just hope that his victim has managed to move on with her life in a positive way (despite having to prepare for court as the vile pig could not plead guilty straight away!) Secondly, it just highlights the need for a national DNA database so people like this can no longer evade justice for so long. We have so many crimes where people are not caught despite having a DNA profile at the scene, surely this needs to change? It is simple in that if you were not there and didnt do it you have no case to answer.And if you were at a scene you would be interviewed like everyone else would. And lastly, I hope every single day he spends in prison is utter hell! realist_highwycombe
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1:01pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Stalemate says...

Don't we all spend a little too much of our time going through the same thought cycle: hang him or at the very least jail him for an eternity and hope that he gets his just desserts on the inside?

The reality is somewhat different in that we spend extra taxpayer pence segregating this fellow from the general prison population. He is among like minded individuals and may end his term inside of the believe that he is a charming fellow and certainly not as mad and bad as Mental Mickey and Hatchet Harry. When he is released he is also no longer noteworthy and can operate anonymously with a serious prospect of re-offending.

My view is that this character should not be jailed but allowed free. Justice has been served in that he has been brought to the attention of the public and is now notorious.

Imagine yourself living in society as a convicted rapist; eyes always peeled for a retaliatory attack, coming to terms with your own status among a decent population. Many would take the view that a rapist just would not think in that way; but the truth is that every human does and must.

Those able to mend their ways and live according to the law would do so, but very many would be unable to cope and end things for themselves.

This process of self-determination is what is missing from out justice system.
Don't we all spend a little too much of our time going through the same thought cycle: hang him or at the very least jail him for an eternity and hope that he gets his just desserts on the inside? The reality is somewhat different in that we spend extra taxpayer pence segregating this fellow from the general prison population. He is among like minded individuals and may end his term inside of the believe that he is a charming fellow and certainly not as mad and bad as Mental Mickey and Hatchet Harry. When he is released he is also no longer noteworthy and can operate anonymously with a serious prospect of re-offending. My view is that this character should not be jailed but allowed free. Justice has been served in that he has been brought to the attention of the public and is now notorious. Imagine yourself living in society as a convicted rapist; eyes always peeled for a retaliatory attack, coming to terms with your own status among a decent population. Many would take the view that a rapist just would not think in that way; but the truth is that every human does and must. Those able to mend their ways and live according to the law would do so, but very many would be unable to cope and end things for themselves. This process of self-determination is what is missing from out justice system. Stalemate
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1:29pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Cressex Offender says...

Hopefully he will get repeatedly b*ggered in prison, every day until he dies.
Hopefully he will get repeatedly b*ggered in prison, every day until he dies. Cressex Offender
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1:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Thamed says...

O M G British justice actually being served for once amazeballs!!
Stalemate, how can you even think this monster should be free? If he was could u forgive urself if he attacked ur wife, girlfriend, daughter or any female u know? At least his victim can sleep at night for now
O M G British justice actually being served for once amazeballs!! Stalemate, how can you even think this monster should be free? If he was could u forgive urself if he attacked ur wife, girlfriend, daughter or any female u know? At least his victim can sleep at night for now Thamed
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1:42pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Stalemate says...

Cressex Offender wrote:
Hopefully he will get repeatedly b*ggered in prison, every day until he dies.
CO, that just won't be happening; but I just worked out that if you are an average UK taxpayer then 0.2 of a pence of your personal tax bill is spent giving him a TV in his bedroom, a steady of w@nk mags and a host of other modcons, if you pardon the pun.
[quote][p][bold]Cressex Offender[/bold] wrote: Hopefully he will get repeatedly b*ggered in prison, every day until he dies.[/p][/quote]CO, that just won't be happening; but I just worked out that if you are an average UK taxpayer then 0.2 of a pence of your personal tax bill is spent giving him a TV in his bedroom, a steady of w@nk mags and a host of other modcons, if you pardon the pun. Stalemate
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1:48pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Stalemate says...

Thamed wrote:
O M G British justice actually being served for once amazeballs!!
Stalemate, how can you even think this monster should be free? If he was could u forgive urself if he attacked ur wife, girlfriend, daughter or any female u know? At least his victim can sleep at night for now
Hi Thamed

Don't be scared by him and his actions. It would be nigh on impossible for a notorious man to go out and rape again.

Your last sentence "at least his victim can sleep at night for now" says it all, what we have at present is not a solution, just a sticking plaster.
[quote][p][bold]Thamed[/bold] wrote: O M G British justice actually being served for once amazeballs!! Stalemate, how can you even think this monster should be free? If he was could u forgive urself if he attacked ur wife, girlfriend, daughter or any female u know? At least his victim can sleep at night for now[/p][/quote]Hi Thamed Don't be scared by him and his actions. It would be nigh on impossible for a notorious man to go out and rape again. Your last sentence "at least his victim can sleep at night for now" says it all, what we have at present is not a solution, just a sticking plaster. Stalemate
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2:06pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Thamed says...

What kind of civil society lets monsters roam free to prey on the innocent? If he wants a second chance he can do it from prison and do some GCSEs or handicrafts to sell (sarcasm). Either we all pay o.2p and lump it as this is the 'best' system on offer for now or we bring back the cheaper option of hanging...or do u have a better alternative?
What kind of civil society lets monsters roam free to prey on the innocent? If he wants a second chance he can do it from prison and do some GCSEs or handicrafts to sell (sarcasm). Either we all pay o.2p and lump it as this is the 'best' system on offer for now or we bring back the cheaper option of hanging...or do u have a better alternative? Thamed
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2:13pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Bill Taxpayer says...

Stalemate wrote:
Thamed wrote: O M G British justice actually being served for once amazeballs!! Stalemate, how can you even think this monster should be free? If he was could u forgive urself if he attacked ur wife, girlfriend, daughter or any female u know? At least his victim can sleep at night for now
Hi Thamed Don't be scared by him and his actions. It would be nigh on impossible for a notorious man to go out and rape again. Your last sentence "at least his victim can sleep at night for now" says it all, what we have at present is not a solution, just a sticking plaster.
Good grief! Who left the gate open??!!
You would seriously let him walk the streets? What planet are you on?
I'm glad he's locked up and hope that he only comes out feet first with a wooden overcoat.
I'd be all for stringing him up as well.
[quote][p][bold]Stalemate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thamed[/bold] wrote: O M G British justice actually being served for once amazeballs!! Stalemate, how can you even think this monster should be free? If he was could u forgive urself if he attacked ur wife, girlfriend, daughter or any female u know? At least his victim can sleep at night for now[/p][/quote]Hi Thamed Don't be scared by him and his actions. It would be nigh on impossible for a notorious man to go out and rape again. Your last sentence "at least his victim can sleep at night for now" says it all, what we have at present is not a solution, just a sticking plaster.[/p][/quote]Good grief! Who left the gate open??!! You would seriously let him walk the streets? What planet are you on? I'm glad he's locked up and hope that he only comes out feet first with a wooden overcoat. I'd be all for stringing him up as well. Bill Taxpayer
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6:46pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Edgar Brooks says...

Stalemate wrote:
Thamed wrote: O M G British justice actually being served for once amazeballs!! Stalemate, how can you even think this monster should be free? If he was could u forgive urself if he attacked ur wife, girlfriend, daughter or any female u know? At least his victim can sleep at night for now
Hi Thamed Don't be scared by him and his actions. It would be nigh on impossible for a notorious man to go out and rape again. Your last sentence "at least his victim can sleep at night for now" says it all, what we have at present is not a solution, just a sticking plaster.
You really don't have a clue; try talking to a woman who lives day by day, never knowing if the man who abused her might turn up again (and, yes, I've done just that, leaving her home in an absolute rage at the shivering wreck she'd become.)
The only way she could have some freedom from that fear was knowing that he was in a place where he couldn't get to her.
Your "solution" is typical of the attitude of so many sanctimonious "do-gooders" ( a misnomer, if ever there was one,) since you have no interest in the victim, and would leave her to go through an absolute nightmare, but you couldn't care less so long as you feel good.
[quote][p][bold]Stalemate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thamed[/bold] wrote: O M G British justice actually being served for once amazeballs!! Stalemate, how can you even think this monster should be free? If he was could u forgive urself if he attacked ur wife, girlfriend, daughter or any female u know? At least his victim can sleep at night for now[/p][/quote]Hi Thamed Don't be scared by him and his actions. It would be nigh on impossible for a notorious man to go out and rape again. Your last sentence "at least his victim can sleep at night for now" says it all, what we have at present is not a solution, just a sticking plaster.[/p][/quote]You really don't have a clue; try talking to a woman who lives day by day, never knowing if the man who abused her might turn up again (and, yes, I've done just that, leaving her home in an absolute rage at the shivering wreck she'd become.) The only way she could have some freedom from that fear was knowing that he was in a place where he couldn't get to her. Your "solution" is typical of the attitude of so many sanctimonious "do-gooders" ( a misnomer, if ever there was one,) since you have no interest in the victim, and would leave her to go through an absolute nightmare, but you couldn't care less so long as you feel good. Edgar Brooks
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7:30pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Marmite XO says...

Stalemate wrote:
Cressex Offender wrote:
Hopefully he will get repeatedly b*ggered in prison, every day until he dies.
CO, that just won't be happening; but I just worked out that if you are an average UK taxpayer then 0.2 of a pence of your personal tax bill is spent giving him a TV in his bedroom, a steady of w@nk mags and a host of other modcons, if you pardon the pun.
I presume you failed every maths test you have ever sat.
[quote][p][bold]Stalemate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cressex Offender[/bold] wrote: Hopefully he will get repeatedly b*ggered in prison, every day until he dies.[/p][/quote]CO, that just won't be happening; but I just worked out that if you are an average UK taxpayer then 0.2 of a pence of your personal tax bill is spent giving him a TV in his bedroom, a steady of w@nk mags and a host of other modcons, if you pardon the pun.[/p][/quote]I presume you failed every maths test you have ever sat. Marmite XO
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8:47pm Wed 31 Oct 12

demoness the second says...

By all means let him out early....

After he has been surgically castrated of course... ;)))
I think the best punishment for these scum is castration... preferably with a blunt knife and no anaesthetic.
They should then be allowed to live to a ripe old age safe in the knowledge that they can never hurt anyone again.
By all means let him out early.... After he has been surgically castrated of course... ;))) I think the best punishment for these scum is castration... preferably with a blunt knife and no anaesthetic. They should then be allowed to live to a ripe old age safe in the knowledge that they can never hurt anyone again. demoness the second
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7:29am Thu 1 Nov 12

Thamed says...

Edgar, I know, how can anyone in this day and age even have such a backward and insensitive opinion. Why not let him lodge with the victim...at least then she can keep an eye on him and get some twisted compensation!!!!!
Edgar, I know, how can anyone in this day and age even have such a backward and insensitive opinion. Why not let him lodge with the victim...at least then she can keep an eye on him and get some twisted compensation!!!!! Thamed
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9:31am Thu 1 Nov 12

tigeran says...

demoness the second wrote:
By all means let him out early....

After he has been surgically castrated of course... ;)))
I think the best punishment for these scum is castration... preferably with a blunt knife and no anaesthetic.
They should then be allowed to live to a ripe old age safe in the knowledge that they can never hurt anyone again.
Absolutely! I still think my solution is the best though! A lot cheaper and sorts it out once and for all!
[quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: By all means let him out early.... After he has been surgically castrated of course... ;))) I think the best punishment for these scum is castration... preferably with a blunt knife and no anaesthetic. They should then be allowed to live to a ripe old age safe in the knowledge that they can never hurt anyone again.[/p][/quote]Absolutely! I still think my solution is the best though! A lot cheaper and sorts it out once and for all! tigeran
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9:45am Thu 1 Nov 12

Firm Bottom says...

Understandable angry comments but mob rule, as suggested by so many, would certainly lead to far more innocent people being killed or injured than guilty. If only the guilty were killed far more innocent people would die as a result – the criminals would make sure their victims were never around to testify against them, or any witnesses. Violent death of many people would result if any some the above commentators got their way.

Yes, he's bad and sensible actions have been taken as a result. Can a rape victim ever be properly compensated or made to feel completely safe again? With a lot of help, perhaps. I hope so.

The death penalty is not a deterrent and is far too often wrongly used, It is unlikely that this man would have considered it since he referred to a 'so-called rape' in his opinion. Would he rape again; who knows for sure and would bet someone's life on it, and the lives of many others?

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=Es9XrKTTc
_4
Understandable angry comments but mob rule, as suggested by so many, would certainly lead to far more innocent people being killed or injured than guilty. If only the guilty were killed far more innocent people would die as a result – the criminals would make sure their victims were never around to testify against them, or any witnesses. Violent death of many people would result if any some the above commentators got their way. Yes, he's bad and sensible actions have been taken as a result. Can a rape victim ever be properly compensated or made to feel completely safe again? With a lot of help, perhaps. I hope so. The death penalty is not a deterrent and is far too often wrongly used, It is unlikely that this man would have considered it since he referred to a 'so-called rape' in his opinion. Would he rape again; who knows for sure and would bet someone's life on it, and the lives of many others? http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=Es9XrKTTc _4 Firm Bottom
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10:28am Thu 1 Nov 12

tigeran says...

Firm Bottom wrote:
Understandable angry comments but mob rule, as suggested by so many, would certainly lead to far more innocent people being killed or injured than guilty. If only the guilty were killed far more innocent people would die as a result – the criminals would make sure their victims were never around to testify against them, or any witnesses. Violent death of many people would result if any some the above commentators got their way.

Yes, he's bad and sensible actions have been taken as a result. Can a rape victim ever be properly compensated or made to feel completely safe again? With a lot of help, perhaps. I hope so.

The death penalty is not a deterrent and is far too often wrongly used, It is unlikely that this man would have considered it since he referred to a 'so-called rape' in his opinion. Would he rape again; who knows for sure and would bet someone's life on it, and the lives of many others?

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=Es9XrKTTc

_4
Hmmm good point but I still think my solution is the best. We dont need scum like this. Get rid in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Firm Bottom[/bold] wrote: Understandable angry comments but mob rule, as suggested by so many, would certainly lead to far more innocent people being killed or injured than guilty. If only the guilty were killed far more innocent people would die as a result – the criminals would make sure their victims were never around to testify against them, or any witnesses. Violent death of many people would result if any some the above commentators got their way. Yes, he's bad and sensible actions have been taken as a result. Can a rape victim ever be properly compensated or made to feel completely safe again? With a lot of help, perhaps. I hope so. The death penalty is not a deterrent and is far too often wrongly used, It is unlikely that this man would have considered it since he referred to a 'so-called rape' in his opinion. Would he rape again; who knows for sure and would bet someone's life on it, and the lives of many others? http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=Es9XrKTTc _4[/p][/quote]Hmmm good point but I still think my solution is the best. We dont need scum like this. Get rid in my opinion. tigeran
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9:22pm Thu 1 Nov 12

MrsFBucks says...

Stalemate wrote:
Thamed wrote:
O M G British justice actually being served for once amazeballs!!
Stalemate, how can you even think this monster should be free? If he was could u forgive urself if he attacked ur wife, girlfriend, daughter or any female u know? At least his victim can sleep at night for now
Hi Thamed

Don't be scared by him and his actions. It would be nigh on impossible for a notorious man to go out and rape again.

Your last sentence "at least his victim can sleep at night for now" says it all, what we have at present is not a solution, just a sticking plaster.
He is only notorious if everyone in the world hears about this story. If he was free, all he would have to do is move to another town and he can start all over again. He looks like any other normal pensioner, I would rather he stays locked up and away from all other poor innocent girls!!!
[quote][p][bold]Stalemate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thamed[/bold] wrote: O M G British justice actually being served for once amazeballs!! Stalemate, how can you even think this monster should be free? If he was could u forgive urself if he attacked ur wife, girlfriend, daughter or any female u know? At least his victim can sleep at night for now[/p][/quote]Hi Thamed Don't be scared by him and his actions. It would be nigh on impossible for a notorious man to go out and rape again. Your last sentence "at least his victim can sleep at night for now" says it all, what we have at present is not a solution, just a sticking plaster.[/p][/quote]He is only notorious if everyone in the world hears about this story. If he was free, all he would have to do is move to another town and he can start all over again. He looks like any other normal pensioner, I would rather he stays locked up and away from all other poor innocent girls!!! MrsFBucks
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