Labour anger over outsourced health centre at Wycombe hospital

Bucks Free Press: Linda Derrick Linda Derrick

A HOSPITAL campaigner and Labour member has written of her shock that a 'private sector company' is running out-of-hours GP care in the area.

She says the fact that the Buckinghamshire Urgent Care now staffs and runs a new unit at Wycombe flies in the face of the campaigning done to keep services at the hospital by residents in the area.

Specialist doctors have moved to an expanded A&E ward at Stoke Mandeville, while the new Minor Injury and Illness Unit opened it’s doors at Wycombe at the start of October.

Last week we reported that two GPs - one based at the MIIU and another ‘on the road’ - would provide out-of-hours care for the area.

BUC is a partnership between two local GP provider companies - Vale Health Limited and Chiltern Health Limited - along with Harmoni Limited.

Linda Derrick, Chair of Health Policy Group for the Wycombe Labour Party hit out at the fact that only one GP may be at a permanently stationed base during these hours.

She said: "We find it incredible that, in practice, we only have one GP for the whole of Bucks for its GP out- of-hours service. Is this really true? If so, how long does it take to get a GP to a patient at home out of hours?"

She also added: "So the result of all the campaigning for an emergency centre at Wycombe Hospital is to get a minor injuries and illness unit run by a private company for profit. That is not what we thought the campaign was all about. This is not we suspect why thousands of Wycombe residents signed the petition."

She went on to question how and why BUC was chosen.

Mike Barradell-Smith, chairman of Buckinghamshire Urgent Care, said: "Our out of hours clinical staffing levels are flexible and vary according to demand. Our assessment of demand on the service is based on carefully analysed historic trends which give us an accurate picture of when peaks and troughs occur. This enables us to provide a resilient, responsive service.

"Our clinical team comprises a mix of GPs, Advanced Nurse Practitioners and Emergency Nurse Practitioners, though only the GPs carry out home visits"

He added that routine home visits must be completed within six hours, that urgent visits must be made within two hours and that ambulances would attend emergency situations.

Jon Hanlon, spokesman for the NHS Buckinghamshire & Oxfordshire Cluster, said: ‘The organisation (BUC)was chosen following a thorough bid process, conducted by the PCT (Primary Care Trust) with CCG (Clinical Commissioning Group) input.

"All CCGs are required to abide by stringent policies and practices to ensure that there is no conflict of interest when they are commissioning health services.

"‘The GP out of hours service will soon be integrated with the MIIU, offering a wide range of out of hours diagnosis and treatment for patients. This will use GPs and nurses to provide the service, and will be staffed according to demand."

He added that several GP practices in Bucks make their own arrangements for out of hours services, which are provided by other organisations.

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5:13pm Fri 2 Nov 12

tigeran says...

Well perhaps the 'Labour' member should go and ask Tony Blair and Gordon Brown for the money back they stole from this country that put us in this mess in the first place. Labour does make you laugh, completely screw over this country then bleat about the mess after!
Well perhaps the 'Labour' member should go and ask Tony Blair and Gordon Brown for the money back they stole from this country that put us in this mess in the first place. Labour does make you laugh, completely screw over this country then bleat about the mess after! tigeran

7:27pm Fri 2 Nov 12

yog says...

The same Labour party that stripped our local hospital of services?

How they have the front to pretend they give a flying fig about Wycombe after what they did is beyond me.
The same Labour party that stripped our local hospital of services? How they have the front to pretend they give a flying fig about Wycombe after what they did is beyond me. yog

1:08am Sat 3 Nov 12

Emma179 says...

Couldn't have put it better myself yog!
Couldn't have put it better myself yog! Emma179

2:19am Sat 3 Nov 12

Stand up for England says...

The thought process of any politician; "my failings of yesterday do not matter; it's what I'm going to balls up tomorrow you need to worry about !" ....
they're all the bl*#dy same in my opinion.
The thought process of any politician; "my failings of yesterday do not matter; it's what I'm going to balls up tomorrow you need to worry about !" .... they're all the bl*#dy same in my opinion. Stand up for England

6:48am Sat 3 Nov 12

Helen 123 says...

yog wrote:
The same Labour party that stripped our local hospital of services?

How they have the front to pretend they give a flying fig about Wycombe after what they did is beyond me.
Couldn't agree more.
[quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: The same Labour party that stripped our local hospital of services? How they have the front to pretend they give a flying fig about Wycombe after what they did is beyond me.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. Helen 123

8:38am Sat 3 Nov 12

QualityCare4all says...

The question is:
Will this type of service deliver better care than the old system?
I understand that performance data on quality will be published sometime in the future allowing a comparison of before and after the changes.

Time is needed to buld up the data to allow a meaningful comparison. Say 6 months?

So the end of April 2013 might be a reasonable time to expect publication of quality comparisons.
The question is: Will this type of service deliver better care than the old system? I understand that performance data on quality will be published sometime in the future allowing a comparison of before and after the changes. Time is needed to buld up the data to allow a meaningful comparison. Say 6 months? So the end of April 2013 might be a reasonable time to expect publication of quality comparisons. QualityCare4all

8:48am Sat 3 Nov 12

demoness the second says...

QualityCare4all wrote:
The question is:
Will this type of service deliver better care than the old system?
I understand that performance data on quality will be published sometime in the future allowing a comparison of before and after the changes.

Time is needed to buld up the data to allow a meaningful comparison. Say 6 months?

So the end of April 2013 might be a reasonable time to expect publication of quality comparisons.
Data does not factor in the human costs though does it?
As the saying goes.. there are lies, damNed lies and statistics..
[quote][p][bold]QualityCare4all[/bold] wrote: The question is: Will this type of service deliver better care than the old system? I understand that performance data on quality will be published sometime in the future allowing a comparison of before and after the changes. Time is needed to buld up the data to allow a meaningful comparison. Say 6 months? So the end of April 2013 might be a reasonable time to expect publication of quality comparisons.[/p][/quote]Data does not factor in the human costs though does it? As the saying goes.. there are lies, damNed lies and statistics.. demoness the second

11:17am Sat 3 Nov 12

Welwyn Dowd says...

I support the Tory & LD changes to make it a pay cash for treatment system. No money, get back to your council house and suffer. NHS is for poor labour plebs.
I support the Tory & LD changes to make it a pay cash for treatment system. No money, get back to your council house and suffer. NHS is for poor labour plebs. Welwyn Dowd

2:37pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Voyeur says...

The Lib Dems and Tories seem more interested in blaming Labour than trying to fix the current system. It is a shame that Labour was responsible for the Global Financial Crisis - but the Tories were asking for an even more hands off approach to regulation.
The Lib Dems and Tories seem more interested in blaming Labour than trying to fix the current system. It is a shame that Labour was responsible for the Global Financial Crisis - but the Tories were asking for an even more hands off approach to regulation. Voyeur

12:50am Sun 4 Nov 12

stevet123 says...

Welwyn Dowd wrote:
I support the Tory & LD changes to make it a pay cash for treatment system. No money, get back to your council house and suffer. NHS is for poor labour plebs.
you sad bias person, i hope you suffer for the rest of your life, imagine you cannot get, a cleaner to clean your house, you cannot get a super market van driver to deliver your food, you cannot get a plumber, heating engineer, electrician to service your house, cannot get a painter & decorator to redec your house, you cannot get a gardner you cannot get a window cleaner, all because you think people are plebs, you sad sad person get back in your tory hutch and shut up snotty nosed git
[quote][p][bold]Welwyn Dowd[/bold] wrote: I support the Tory & LD changes to make it a pay cash for treatment system. No money, get back to your council house and suffer. NHS is for poor labour plebs.[/p][/quote]you sad bias person, i hope you suffer for the rest of your life, imagine you cannot get, a cleaner to clean your house, you cannot get a super market van driver to deliver your food, you cannot get a plumber, heating engineer, electrician to service your house, cannot get a painter & decorator to redec your house, you cannot get a gardner you cannot get a window cleaner, all because you think people are plebs, you sad sad person get back in your tory hutch and shut up snotty nosed git stevet123

12:52am Sun 4 Nov 12

stevet123 says...

Helen 123 wrote:
yog wrote:
The same Labour party that stripped our local hospital of services?

How they have the front to pretend they give a flying fig about Wycombe after what they did is beyond me.
Couldn't agree more.
same as your mr baker then, this was long happening when the tories where in before labour
[quote][p][bold]Helen 123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yog[/bold] wrote: The same Labour party that stripped our local hospital of services? How they have the front to pretend they give a flying fig about Wycombe after what they did is beyond me.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more.[/p][/quote]same as your mr baker then, this was long happening when the tories where in before labour stevet123

1:12pm Sun 4 Nov 12

faircuppa says...

Before Labour got in in 1997 the national principle of the NHS was local, comprehensive, accessible NOT regional. Tories got a lot wrong back then also. Labour built a lot of new hospitals but caused billions of debt through PFI.
Before Labour got in in 1997 the national principle of the NHS was local, comprehensive, accessible NOT regional. Tories got a lot wrong back then also. Labour built a lot of new hospitals but caused billions of debt through PFI. faircuppa

5:07pm Sun 4 Nov 12

tom.marlow2 says...

The whole PFI thing was started by John Major's government.

Simply throwing blame around does nothing whatsoever to solve problems.
The whole PFI thing was started by John Major's government. Simply throwing blame around does nothing whatsoever to solve problems. tom.marlow2

8:40am Mon 5 Nov 12

QualityCare4all says...

How to measure quality?
I agree that numbers are not the only way to measure quality. It is all about how the patients feel not just how many or how fast. The 'Human Cost' as described by Demoness.
So The Hospital has to ask patients if they feel the service is better than it was before.
They have to ask the questions in Stoke Mandeville as well as Wycombe.
They should have done it before the change so we can see that there is an difference.
Did they do that? I dont think so. Will they tell us?
So we will never know because they did not do things properly. They shoul dtell us that they do have information from patients about their experiences BEFORE and AFTER the changes.
How to measure quality? I agree that numbers are not the only way to measure quality. It is all about how the patients feel not just how many or how fast. The 'Human Cost' as described by Demoness. So The Hospital has to ask patients if they feel the service is better than it was before. They have to ask the questions in Stoke Mandeville as well as Wycombe. They should have done it before the change so we can see that there is an difference. Did they do that? I dont think so. Will they tell us? So we will never know because they did not do things properly. They shoul dtell us that they do have information from patients about their experiences BEFORE and AFTER the changes. QualityCare4all

9:19am Mon 5 Nov 12

Darren Hayday says...

To be honest, it doesn’t matter who's fault it is or who's in power.

Nothing will be done and the hospital will eventually close down and most likely be replaced by flats or retail units.

We in the town the size of Wycombe will have to travel about 45 mins to the nearest hospital.

We've gone back to pre Victorian times and still we continue to take this.

Hardly anyone cares and those of us that do need more people to fight.

People care more about what's on TV than what really matters in the real world, it’s funny that we have a whole generation that are plugged in, zoned out and have their eyes closed to the world.

Ironic that this is also the age where information is so freely available and we can communicate together in a way that would not be manageable even only 30 years ago.

But still the majority don’t care or are happy with worrying more about what’s going to happen in Eastenders than their local hospital being slowly closed down..
It’s tragic and it makes me very sad.
To be honest, it doesn’t matter who's fault it is or who's in power. Nothing will be done and the hospital will eventually close down and most likely be replaced by flats or retail units. We in the town the size of Wycombe will have to travel about 45 mins to the nearest hospital. We've gone back to pre Victorian times and still we continue to take this. Hardly anyone cares and those of us that do need more people to fight. People care more about what's on TV than what really matters in the real world, it’s funny that we have a whole generation that are plugged in, zoned out and have their eyes closed to the world. Ironic that this is also the age where information is so freely available and we can communicate together in a way that would not be manageable even only 30 years ago. But still the majority don’t care or are happy with worrying more about what’s going to happen in Eastenders than their local hospital being slowly closed down.. It’s tragic and it makes me very sad. Darren Hayday

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