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MP anger at Labour "snub" to hospital speech


CONSERVATIVE Wycombe MP Paul Goodman has attacked Labour after only two of its backbenchers attended his speech calling for services to return to Wycombe Hospital.

Mr Goodman hit out after telling the Commons about a Bucks Free Press report about two women who gave birth in ambulances because of hospital cuts.

He said: “If only two Labour backbenchers can be bothered to turn up to defend their own Government's programme, what does that say about their faith in it and the current state of the Commons?

“And if they don't believe in it, why should anyone else?”

He told the Commons MPs might be heading to constituencies, where most MPs spend their Fridays. Labour has 350 MPs.

He said: “Perhaps they have come to the conclusion, as we certainly have, that there is nothing wrong with the Queen's Speech that a speedy general election will not put right.”

Mr Goodman said during the 11.30pm to 6pm session that Labour MPs Barry Sheerman and Dennis Skinner were the only members present.

The Commons keeps no official records of attendance. Click the link at the bottom of the story for video of the debate and full text of the debate.

Mr Goodman told the Commons of the NHS cuts: “My constituents will ask the simple question that our party asked during the 2001 general election: ‘Where has all the money gone?’.”

Mr Goodman said the Buckinghamshire NHS is “trapped in a vicious circle” as the county got about 17 per cent less cash from Government compared to other parts of England.

Local managers had a role to play in cutting overspends, he said, but this is “very hard” without the cash.

Mr Goodman said: “There will be a simpler, fairer and independently administered funding formula if a Conservative Government are elected in May, as I believe they will be, and that will greatly help to improve my constituents' situation.”

And he said Buckinghamshire Hospitals NHS Trust got foundation status – giving it more financial control – this could bring back services to Wycombe.

The hospital last month lost doctor-led births, overnight care for mums-to-be, children and gynaecology patients.

Mr Goodman said the re-organisation of NHS authorities in the county had not helped.

He said: “For us, the experience of the NHS in Buckinghamshire has been almost like watching permanent revolution in China.”

The MP is to quit at the next election over concerns of the rise of “professional politicians”.

He told the Commons: “The basic question that the House has to ask is whether it sees Members of Parliament fundamentally as citizen legislators who are free to earn and work elsewhere, or as professional politicians.

“Professional politicians are, by definition, not so free to earn and work outside, and are therefore inevitably members of a political class, distinct and separate from the constituents whom they represent.”

He condemned demands for MPs to fill out “time sheets” detailing outside work.

Mr Goodman said: “The Commons should not become a monopoly for the political class who work here, work here only and do not have any outside interests and expertise, whether in dentistry, the law, the City or charities and so on.”



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SDJones, Hazlemere says...
2:23pm Fri 20 Nov 09

Mr Goodman said the Buckinghamshire NHS is “trapped in a vicious circle” as the county got about 17 per cent less cash from Government compared to England.

compared to England what? this doesnt make sense!!!

J B Blackett, High Wycombe says...
3:08pm Fri 20 Nov 09

The Meek and Mild apparently preaching to the Deaf and Don't Cares on behalf of the Powerless and Put-Upon.
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Predictable event and a waste of breath and time. The Undemocratic Decision has already been made.
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The steam will be not go back in the kettle. Sorry - I'll say this with regret because nobody in power or who has caused this mess in NHS has the courage or will to put things right will do the decent thing . We are now governed by selfish but stupid out-of-touch groups of self-interest groups / gangs.
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Regards

Voyeur, HW says...
4:06pm Fri 20 Nov 09

The Conservatives had their chance to refer the matter to the Secretary of State through the scrutiny committee of Bucks County Council.
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They chose not to do that.
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All the rest is mere politicking.
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Goodman should be thankful that even 2 members bothered to turn up to listen to him.

yog, says...
4:29pm Fri 20 Nov 09

Maybe if Goodman had got angry a bit more in the past we would not be in this mess.

And now when he expects the Conservatives to win the election and he has the opportunity to be in Government and return the hospital services he bottles it and we are left with Cameron's yes man from Oxfordshire.

demoness, Hades says...
4:34pm Fri 20 Nov 09

Voyeur wrote:
The Conservatives had their chance to refer the matter to the Secretary of State through the scrutiny committee of Bucks County Council. . They chose not to do that. . All the rest is mere politicking. . Goodman should be thankful that even 2 members bothered to turn up to listen to him.
Yes I seem to remember that well... apparently it was a local problem or something... or so he said!

demoness, Hades says...
4:36pm Fri 20 Nov 09

yog wrote:
Maybe if Goodman had got angry a bit more in the past we would not be in this mess. And now when he expects the Conservatives to win the election and he has the opportunity to be in Government and return the hospital services he bottles it and we are left with Cameron's yes man from Oxfordshire.
Hello vile poisonous liar here...*waves*

Please tell me what the lib dems have done to save the hospital apart from have their photo taken with some countess or other?

NONE of the political party's have bothered so stop with the cheap shots.

SDJones, Hazlemere says...
5:09pm Fri 20 Nov 09

i see the article has NOW been proof read and amended, check it before you print it that is about 50% of your job BFP

yog, says...
5:19pm Fri 20 Nov 09

As per usual you are ignorant of the facts.

All the political parties in Wycombe were part of the united campaign group.

Unfortunately the Conservatives used the hospital as a political football in the last general election which broke up the consensus of the group.

And surprise surprise they are doing it again this election in the hope of getting their candidate from Oxfordshire elected.

The Liberal Democrats repeatedly stressed that it was the lack of local control i.e. the break up of Wycombe Health Authority that was the underlying issue.
Until this is resolved then there will be no likelihood of getting services back.
The Conservatives have only very recently even acknowledged this crucial point!

demoness, Hades says...
5:26pm Fri 20 Nov 09

yep we know that the lib dems are the patron saints of all that is good and holy.
Now all you need to do is persuade the voting public.
And PLEASE stop with the personal attacks - I don't think I have said anything rude about you personally for weeks now yet every time I DARE to say anything about the lib dems you get nasty..

J B Blackett, High Wycombe says...
5:53pm Fri 20 Nov 09

Am I ill-inforned , yog from Brighton (my ancestors' home town in which I take an close interest) ?

I have not heard of the Wycombe Health Authority. Are you talking about PCTs or something else ?
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We live in the area and would like to check this out like all the other info you've passed here for our benefit.
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Regards.

demoness, Hades says...
8:51pm Fri 20 Nov 09

Hi JB

Wycombe Health authority pre dates Bucks hospital NHS Trust.
Back in the day, Wycombe Health authority was in charge of Wycombe hospital. Then all hospitals became Trusts and Wycombe Health authority became South Bucks Trust.
Then Stoke , Amersham and Wycombe became Bucks Hospitals NHS Trust.

Not that I would know.... because I am ignorant lol...

J B Blackett, High Wycombe says...
10:55pm Fri 20 Nov 09

Thanks for that , d.
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So yog - the remote and distant **** Fib - could almost be deemed correct then.
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How disappointing ! I was about to (objectively) inform him/her about addressing the shortcomings, political jiggery-pokery and deprivation related issues in his own apparent 'home' territory.
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In that case, I'll save it for another time.
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Regards

J B Blackett, High Wycombe says...
11:00pm Fri 20 Nov 09

The missing word was D*a*m*n - how puritan ! It's definitely American censorship. How about f*a*g ? Would that ever pass ?

Voyeur, HW says...
8:24am Sat 21 Nov 09

The article states:
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Mr Goodman said during the 11.30pm to 6pm session that Labour MPs Barry Sheerman and Dennis Skinner were the only members present.
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Now that is a loooonnnngggg debate.- nearly 20 hours by my reckoning.
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No wonder everyone esle went home!
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Or is it just poor reporting?

J B Blackett, High Wycombe says...
11:37am Sat 21 Nov 09

^ Is it at all possible he spoke extremely slowly.
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Debate ? Don't make me laugh - they all ignore anything WE say.

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