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Campaigners launch fight to keep beds at Wycombe Hospital

The Save Our Hospital Services group at Rapid House in High Wycombe The Save Our Hospital Services group at Rapid House in High Wycombe

CAMPAIGNERS and politicians have launched a fight to try to stop a major transfer of services out of Wycombe Hospital.

They have demanded evidence to show the NHS proposals will save money and pose no risk to patients - adding health chiefs have failed to properly recognise the transport problems for Wycombe patients getting to Stoke Mandeville.

See link below for details about the plans.

The Save Our Hospital Services [SOHS] campaign group met NHS chiefs at their High Wycombe headquarters this week, as they made a formal submission to the consultation.

They have demanded to see the full analysis of two other options - including the duplication of acute services at Wycombe and Stoke, as well as a 'do-nothing' approach.

Group spokesman John Barlow said: “The report does not make a convincing case though for the further dilution of hospital services at Wycombe and in particular proposes a totally unacceptable downgrading of Wycombe A&E to a Minor Injuries and Illness Unit.”

The cross-party group highlights transport to Stoke Mandeville as a major issue, saying a sole ‘transport summit’ was not adequate to dispel concerns.

It also points out that no cost-analysis, or risk assessment has yet been provided by Buckinghamshire’s ambulance service. Last week South Central Ambulance Service told the Bucks Free Press this work has not yet been done.

The campaigners also called for detailed discussions on the long-term future of the Wycombe Hospital site, saying the tower block is “increasingly threatened”.

Inpatient beds across at least four wards in the tower block would be removed under the plans.

Meanwhile, Wycombe Labour Party have also submitted a 10-page document.

Dr Linda Derrick and leader Victoria Groulef say there is a lack of financial data to support the changes, demanding to see a full cost-analysis of all the possible options.

Their submission says there is no indication of “the loss of life and well-being which could be caused by delays” in getting to Stoke Mandeville.

They say the proposals ‘largely ignore’ the extra costs that would be placed on patients and visitors, with poorer families, the elderly and disabled set to be worst affected.

The submission calls for NHS chiefs to concentrate on managing the hospitals better, rather than a major relocation of services.

Performance against a key waiting time target has slumped in the last year, while ‘bed-blocking’ has become a major issue, as many Bucks patients spend too long in a hospital.

See link below for a response from the NHS Buckinghamshire and Oxfordshire Cluster.

Comments(14)

wayneo says...
3:04pm Fri 3 Feb 12

Good news and I never thought I'd say it but at least the Labour party have undertaken some thorough research, if they spent more time doing that than putting spurious complaints in to attack opponents, they would be a far more credible opposition.

JOHNHEALY says...
4:17pm Fri 3 Feb 12

Buckinghamshire needs not just a main hospital in the middle of the county at Stoke Mandeville but also one in the south and north of the county too. As it is not strategically placed High Wycombe Hospital should close altogether. However the town like other large places in the vicinity should all be given an accident and emergency centre with some bed provision. This would complement the sterling work done by paramedics and allow the best health care at minimal cost.

eniluap says...
4:32pm Fri 3 Feb 12

this site will soon become luxury appartments it will not be long before the hospital can treat nobody then it will be pulled down it's what they have wanting to do for a long time

J B Blackett says...
5:18pm Fri 3 Feb 12

JOHNHEALY wrote:
Buckinghamshire needs not just a main hospital in the middle of the county at Stoke Mandeville but also one in the south and north of the county too. As it is not strategically placed High Wycombe Hospital should close altogether. However the town like other large places in the vicinity should all be given an accident and emergency centre with some bed provision. This would complement the sterling work done by paramedics and allow the best health care at minimal cost.
Ah, so High Wycombe is not in the south of the county. I wonder where it is.
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I've also heard that Stoke Mandeville is not in the middle of Bucks either.
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I know that Olney is in North Bucks - perhaps that's what you mean.

readerabc says...
5:32pm Fri 3 Feb 12

M40 on the doorstep
accident hotspot
rough slow single file road to stoke mandeville
major town (one of the largest in bucks)
of course wycombe doesnt need a substiantial hopsital or A&E......

yog says...
10:37am Sat 4 Feb 12

might have known Victoria Groulef would jump on any passing bandwagon.

Perhaps she would like to apologise for her Labour government stripping the heart out of our Hospital which has put it on an inevitable path of decline.

Scarletto says...
1:45pm Sat 4 Feb 12

Worst aspect is that a few months ago a health official said that centralising more services was an "improvement". Bizarre and mad... Tell that to someone who has been conveniently treated in Wycombe in recent years and now has to go out of town, miles away, and suffering pain and extra expense..
Dear deluded J Blackett here suggests Wycombe's closure! Does he need psychiatric treatment because he's come to that conclusion? Is he sane?

stevet123 says...
9:58am Sun 5 Feb 12

JOHNHEALY wrote:
Buckinghamshire needs not just a main hospital in the middle of the county at Stoke Mandeville but also one in the south and north of the county too. As it is not strategically placed High Wycombe Hospital should close altogether. However the town like other large places in the vicinity should all be given an accident and emergency centre with some bed provision. This would complement the sterling work done by paramedics and allow the best health care at minimal cost.
John you must be barmy, cannot get more south than south bucks here, major motorway on door step, for ever accidents on it, wycombe needs a full working hospital, people above have rightly wrote, single road to stoke manderville, and ambulances have to contend with that and a busy village like princes risborough, just to get to s m, can always tell a tory voter too, blaming the Labour when they are just as bad, this town needs a full time 24/7 a&e and all medical needs to a large town, It does make me think that all these people who are dealing with our hospitals, managers,directors, etc are more likely to be tory voters, and we know what that means closures and to pressure people who have no money to buy medical insurance so as there will be no NHS, tory scum snobby **** comes to mind

yog says...
1:58pm Sun 5 Feb 12

stevet123 wrote:
JOHNHEALY wrote:
Buckinghamshire needs not just a main hospital in the middle of the county at Stoke Mandeville but also one in the south and north of the county too. As it is not strategically placed High Wycombe Hospital should close altogether. However the town like other large places in the vicinity should all be given an accident and emergency centre with some bed provision. This would complement the sterling work done by paramedics and allow the best health care at minimal cost.
John you must be barmy, cannot get more south than south bucks here, major motorway on door step, for ever accidents on it, wycombe needs a full working hospital, people above have rightly wrote, single road to stoke manderville, and ambulances have to contend with that and a busy village like princes risborough, just to get to s m, can always tell a tory voter too, blaming the Labour when they are just as bad, this town needs a full time 24/7 a&e and all medical needs to a large town, It does make me think that all these people who are dealing with our hospitals, managers,directors, etc are more likely to be tory voters, and we know what that means closures and to pressure people who have no money to buy medical insurance so as there will be no NHS, tory scum snobby **** comes to mind
You are aware that it was the last Labour government that stripped our hospital bare?

Halemum says...
10:15pm Sun 5 Feb 12

Well done guys. You are doing an amazing job bring the 'powers to be' to account. They don't like it because you are catching them out.
Keep going!

JohnB27 says...
2:15pm Tue 7 Feb 12

The Save Our Hospital Services (SOHS) Committee can be contacted by email on:

saveour.hospitalserv
ices@gmail.com

All Newsletters are available on the website :

www.bucksinfo.net/so
hs/

Comments won't allow direct links so copy and paste the above.

Thanks for all your support.

rushma says...
12:12pm Wed 8 Feb 12

yog wrote:
stevet123 wrote:
JOHNHEALY wrote:
Buckinghamshire needs not just a main hospital in the middle of the county at Stoke Mandeville but also one in the south and north of the county too. As it is not strategically placed High Wycombe Hospital should close altogether. However the town like other large places in the vicinity should all be given an accident and emergency centre with some bed provision. This would complement the sterling work done by paramedics and allow the best health care at minimal cost.
John you must be barmy, cannot get more south than south bucks here, major motorway on door step, for ever accidents on it, wycombe needs a full working hospital, people above have rightly wrote, single road to stoke manderville, and ambulances have to contend with that and a busy village like princes risborough, just to get to s m, can always tell a tory voter too, blaming the Labour when they are just as bad, this town needs a full time 24/7 a&e and all medical needs to a large town, It does make me think that all these people who are dealing with our hospitals, managers,directors, etc are more likely to be tory voters, and we know what that means closures and to pressure people who have no money to buy medical insurance so as there will be no NHS, tory scum snobby **** comes to mind
You are aware that it was the last Labour government that stripped our hospital bare?
I think the populous thinking was that the previous 18 years of tory government policies did the damages to hospitals and schools. The previous labour government pumped large amounts of money in, but retained the trust policies and logistics it inherited. Perhaps, not a good idea.

We have short memories and can only remember as far as the last labour government.

The debate should really rise above politics and look at making the best of the current and the longterm economic climate. NHS should not be about politics, but, quite rightly, the labour party has raised a voice to ensure the practical usefullness of the services at Wycombe Hospital.

JOHNHEALY says...
1:24pm Wed 8 Feb 12

So I am barmy am I for wanting to have the best quality and most comprehensive health care in Buckinghamshire at minimal cost? Instead of criticising each other in these comments we need to pull together, have a cast iron plan for what we need and want and if the political parties will not give us that we vote them out until someone does or alternatively we provide the facilities ourselves. After all in days gone by wealthy benefactors gave money for the provision of hospitals and people like Sir Jimmy Saville raised money for hospitals too.

JohnB27 says...
2:21pm Wed 8 Feb 12

The SOHS Committee is made up of representatives from each of the major three parties and this includes the MP and District Councillors. There are no party politics. Each person is there to try to make the Health authorities demonstrate that their proposals make sense and that the public is not misled.

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