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MPs explain opposition to high speed train plan


THE MPs whose constituencies face a having a new high speed train line driven through them today urge Bucks Free Press readers to fight the plan.

Aylesbury MP David Lidington and Chesham and Amersham MP Cheryl Gillan spoke after the controversial route was announced last week.

It would tunnel under the Chalfonts and Amersham and run overground by the Missendens.

The Government says an alternative is to run a line under Gerrards Cross and Hazlemere and overground at Hughenden.

Click the link at the bottom of this story for our stories on the plans.

Aylesbury MP David Lidington:

Plans for a high-speed rail line through South Bucks and the Misbourne Valley have come as an appalling shock to local residents. Some people find that their homes are marked for demolition. Many more have houses which are now blighted and unsaleable. I share their outrage at a scheme that would scar the Chilterns landscape that successive governments have designated as of outstanding national importance.

I am getting to grips with the mass of detail, putting down questions to ministers and talking to as many local organisations and individual constituents as I can. I have also spoken to the other Bucks MPs whose constituents are affected – Cheryl Gillan, Dominic Grieve and John Bercow – to make sure we coordinate our work.

Final decisions about the scheme won’t be made till after the public consultation that starts in the autumn. That gives us some months to get our arguments together.

The idea in principle of high-speed rail has strong public, business and political support. It could bring national economic benefits and, by getting passengers off flights and motorways, environmental gains too.

Simply saying “no” isn’t enough. We need to put together the strongest case possible for an alternative, less environmentally damaging route. For example, why was the government so quick to rule out an M1 corridor avoiding the Chilterns AONB altogether?

At the same time, we need to prepare our Plan B. If the worst came to the worst, what do we want from government to make things slightly more bearable for local people? Could more of the line be put into tunnels? What about additional works to suppress noise and limit visual intrusion? Is more generous compensation part of the answer?

To win these arguments, we have to base our case on detailed evidence and meticulous argument.

Chesham and Amersham MP Cheryl Gillan:

I am challenging the routing of HS2 through Chesham and Amersham because of the impact that this choice of route will have not only on residents but also on the precious environment of the Chilterns Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty.

There are certainly economic and environmental benefits to be had for the UK from a High Speed Rail network, but the pursuance of this grand design should not lead us to ride roughshod over our landscapes, our heritage and our communities.

Having raised my initial concerns about the route when it was announced to the House of Commons, I have now tackled Lord Adonis, the Secretary of State, in a face-to-face meeting and challenged him to come and face the people of Chesham and Amersham at a public meeting in the constituency. He is “considering the invitation” and is due to come back to me the day this article is published. Lord Adonis is fully aware of the pain that this project will cause but, in his drive to see it through, I fear he is indifferent as to where the blows will land. The Liberal Democrats, too, have praised the route.

What is worse, for people in Chesham and Amersham, this Labour Government has made it clear that for them, HS2 is not an alternative to the third runway at Heathrow – it is in addition to it. This leaves us here with the worst of all worlds.

As well as the environmental impact, for me there are questions about the commercial and financial viability of the scheme as currently proposed and that is why I am pleased to say that, whilst supporting the principle of high speed rail, Conservatives have not accepted the route as it stands.

Already there are cases of hardship caused by this announcement and, though I understand there will be compensation packages, without a change of heart by the Government there will be many more.

My constituents can be assured that I will do everything in my power to reverse this decision which is causing such distress to thousands across Chesham and Amersham.

I invite constituents to let me know their views on the dedicated email address: gillanhs2chilterns@cheshamandamershamconservatives.co.uk. Updates from me will be posted on www.cherylgillan.co.uk.


Comments(8)

KateP says...
10:15am Fri 19 Mar 10

Has Paul Goodman already thrown in the towel? Paul Goodman? Paul who? Apart from saying a Conservative government would throw out the proposal, nothing more has been heard from him while David Liddington and Cheryl Gillain are working flat out. Are we on route 2.5 so convinced it won't be us that we don't bother? Route 2.5 is a very real threat if there is enough opposition to route 2. We should all be working together to stop any route through the Chilterns AONB instead of sitting on our collective backsides.

Timbers says...
10:43am Fri 19 Mar 10

The initial Tory response, as detailed in the BFP, has been fairly predictable - and (true to form for the Tories) less than honest and honourable!

Several MPs (most notably those for Aylesbury and Chesham & Amersham) have said "vote for us and we will protect you from this new railway"

Given that the Conservative Party have also said that they are IN FAVOUR of the principle of HS2 and, indeed that they would start to build it 2 years quicker than Labour, then it quite reasonable to believe that they must have some idea of the route THEY would take. They have said that their route would serve Heathrow more directly than Labour's, but otherwise would be the same basic London to Midlands link. Given also that it makes no commercial or economic sense for a high speed route to take a circuitous journey, it seems pretty reasonable to suppose that the Tory HS2 would take much the same route as Labour's.

So when David Liddington and Cheryl Gillan say "vote Conservative and we'll save you from the railway" they actually mean one of three things:

1) We actually don't know what route our proposals would take, so when we say "we will protect you" we actually have no idea whether this is true or not, and we are going to try and hoodwink you into believing that voting Tory promises a different outcome, whereas in fact we can have no certainty of this.

2) We actually DO know what route our proposals would take, and they are to all intents and purposes the same as those announced by Labour. When we say "vote Tory and we will save you from the railway" we are therefore being utter hypocrites. We refuse to be honest be you. You will find out what shameless and unprincipled liars we are only AFTER the election when we expect to take office and are then forced to announce our own proposals. Hey presto, they will prove that nothing will be different, but by then the election will be over and we won't have to worry about your vote for another 4 or 5 years.

3) Our proposals would take a different route and whilst voting Tory will have saved YOU from the railway, there will be voters in a neighbouring constituency (perhaps more marginal than ours) who we don't want to give any reason NOT to vote Conservative until after the election is over. Naturally, this means that we are still shameless hypocrites and fundamentally dishonest, but, hey, this is the Conservative Party and you're surely used to this by now!

It seems to me that one of these three alternatives MUST be true, and we ought perhaps to try to flush them out as to which it is, and not let them shamelessly paint themselves as the ones to vote for if you feel worrried by the route of the railway.

Hit me says...
11:52am Fri 19 Mar 10

Well I still think its a great idea, and dont think we should be protesting it at all.

yog says...
12:44pm Fri 19 Mar 10

The Conservatives have already said they support HS2 and will fast track the plans meaning that it will be built far quicker with less consultation.

Our local Conservative MP's should really read what their own policy is.

Timbers says...
1:41pm Fri 19 Mar 10

Quotes from the Conservative Party's published policy document "Conservative Rail Review":

"A Conservative Government will give the go-ahead for a new high speed line connecting Leeds, Manchester, Birmingham, London and Heathrow"

"The benefits of a full high speed network could produce economic benefits of £63 billion across the country over 60 years"

"We have conducted a detailed desktop feasibility study drawing on exceptional work already conducted by leading engineers such as Atkins"

"We are confident that the business case for the new line is so strong that so long as the taxpayer meets the upfront cost of land and track, the expected returns would mean that the private sector could meet the remainder of the cost."

"Since the planning and preparation process would take at least 4 to 5 years, we would target construction to begin in 2015 and run to 2027"

"Good connections to major airports coudl also significantly enhance the benefits of high speed rail. So a Conservative Government will support proposals along the lines of the plan put forward by engineering firm Arup, for a new Heathrow rail hub...The plan would also include construction of a new high speed link connecting Heathrow airport to the Channel Tunnel Rail Link and the new route north"

"This is a long term project, but one which we are determined to deliver"

Now then, local Tory MPs and candidates - come clean and tell us in detail what YOUR proposals are, and stop hiding behind a smokescreen of opportunistic spin!

maharaja47 says...
2:16pm Fri 19 Mar 10

KateP wrote:
Has Paul Goodman already thrown in the towel? Paul Goodman? Paul who? Apart from saying a Conservative government would throw out the proposal, nothing more has been heard from him while David Liddington and Cheryl Gillain are working flat out. Are we on route 2.5 so convinced it won't be us that we don't bother? Route 2.5 is a very real threat if there is enough opposition to route 2. We should all be working together to stop any route through the Chilterns AONB instead of sitting on our collective backsides.
I think I have to agree with Kate. The Wycombe MP, who is also Shadow Minister, Communities and Local Government, has been noticebly quiet on this matter as well as on other matters of Community and local Government,(dare I mention p*t-h**es)?
A considered opinion would be of interest but maybe there's no longer anything in it for him as he will be standing down in May. Maybe a few words from the prospective parliamentry candidate might not go amiss?
Probably no point, though, given the safety of the contituency seat.
What a shower we seem to have become saddled with, both nationally and locally!

Why am I paying for your third home? says...
1:02pm Sat 20 Mar 10

Interesting choice of wording from both of them, particularly in the case of Cheryl Gillan MP. Saying that you are "challenging" the route and that "I am pleased to say that, whilst supporting the principle of high speed rail, Conservatives have not accepted the route as it stands" is not the same thing at all as a clear statement opposing any route that goes through the AONB. Why does she find it so hard to make an unambiguous statement of opposition to an AONB route as Lib Dem candidate Tim Starkey has done this week? Is it because as a Shadow Minister she's tied to national Conservative policy and a suddenly invisible Shadow Transport Secretary who has to date said nothing about ensuring this scheme avoids the AONB. Perhaps the Bucks Free Press could start asking our MPs some basic questions on this issue rather than just posting their PR statements.

Why am I paying for your third home? says...
9:36pm Sat 20 Mar 10

Perhaps they could also find time to explain what is their own party's preferred route? After all, their own Transport Shadow Minister has been very clear in supporting HS2 and the Conservatives have been working on proposals for at least 2 years - so come on where exactly would the Conservatives put this route? Or are we to believe that despite this being official Conservative policy since 2008, they haven't given any thought to where it will actually go?


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