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1:32pm Wednesday 8th September 2010 in
RESIDENTS will get the chance to have their say on proposals for a new stadium for Wycombe Wanderers and London Wasps after councillors approved a public consultation.
Wycombe District Council chiefs said it was important to gain feedback from residents and moved to reassure residents the proposed community stadium was “not just about the clubs but for the good of the wider district.”
The council has cut its 19 'long-list' of proposed sites down to three shortlisted sites – Adams Park, Abbey Barn south and Wycombe Air Park.
But planning bosses insist that “nothing [sites] can be completely out of the question at this stage."
Deputy leader of the council Tony Green said he was hopeful “as many people as possible” would get involved in the consultation on the scheme, which he called a “once in a life time opportunity for a town like Wycombe.”
The consultation, which will be made up of forms, online surveys and public meeting events, will begin on September 17 and run until October 29.
It will provide information on the overall scheme and move to 'address concerns' about the council's financial involvement in the project and its impact on council tax.
The forms will ask residents to state which of four broad stadium plans they prefer.
These are: Retain Adams Park and seek improvements to “make the best of it."
Identify a site for a new 'primary stadium facility only', but this “would not lead to lead to any significant change” and would be “unlikely to attract investment and commitment necessary to ensure delivery.”
The 'primary stadium plus supporting facilities' option would see a stadium built with the addition of community pitches, meeting rooms and club training facilities.
The final option, a 'full sports village', would create a 'single sports hub for the district' incorporating indoor sports facilities and track and field.
The council has also revealed that it has narrowed its long-list down to three sites.
These are Adams Park - which the council says is “constrained” and “limits the scope of both clubs' ambition” - Abbey Barn south and Wycombe Air Park.
But the council's head of planning and sustainability Jerry Unsworth said the council had still not ruled out any other area in the district.
He said: “Nothing can be completely out of the question at this stage and this consultation will help us decide.
“What we have done is identity sites which meet a certain criteria and some have more difficulties in terms of deliverability then others.
“We're not saying one is in and one is out but clearly we need to find a site and then sit back and then ask does it justify going for it.
“But this is not just about the clubs, it's about doing the what is best for the wider community.
"London Wasps and Wycombe Wanderers play a big part in that wider community.”
The authority has attracted controversy over plans to spend upto £750,000 on the project.
Liberal Democrat Cllr Trevor Snaith asked the ruling Conservative council why the consultation did not give residents the chance to vote against a stadium at a Full Council meeting last month.
But Mr Unsworth told the Bucks Free Press that Adams Park had been shortlisted for those residents who wanted the current set up to remain the same.
A second consultation will be held at a later date.
The following public events on the plans will be held on the following dates:
· Saturday, September 25, 10am-4pm, High Wycombe Library.
· Tuesday, October 5, 5-8pm, Court Garden Leisure Complex, Marlow.
· Thursday, October 14, 5-8pm, Risborough Information Centre, Princes Risborough.
While further 'discussion forums' will be held on the following dates:
· Thursday, September 30, 7-9pm, The King’s Centre, Desborough Road, High Wycombe.
· Tuesday, October 12, 7-9pm, The Town Hall, Queen Victoria Road, High Wycombe.
Visit www.wycombe.gov.uk from September 17 for the online survey and to find out where you can have your say.
Will you be taking part in the consultation? Leave your comments below.
Click on the link below to read our stories on the plans.
Comments(49)
BigTommy
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3:09pm Wed 8 Sep 10
DeepThinker
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3:12pm Wed 8 Sep 10
cheesepie
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3:38pm Wed 8 Sep 10
John Ley
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4:29pm Wed 8 Sep 10
cheesepie wrote:The Buck Free Press reported in an article dated 22nd April 2010 that Wasps had been threatened with a winding up order over an unpaid £1m tax bill but that “an agreement to pay” had since been put in place. I have never heard anything to suggest that the Wycombe Wanderers business was likely to go into administration.
once hayes gets his new stadium. he will put wycombe wanderers in administration. he has never shown any intrest in wycombe
miccles
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4:36pm Wed 8 Sep 10
cressex blue
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4:38pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Whatishappeningtowycombe
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4:51pm Wed 8 Sep 10
wayneo
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5:06pm Wed 8 Sep 10
wayneo
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susie1000
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susie1000
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susie1000
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Wendoverman
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6:25pm Wed 8 Sep 10
BigTommy
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6:29pm Wed 8 Sep 10
MCarey
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6:52pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Ewartwhatyoubulldoze
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wayneo
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BOGITS
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9:06pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Truth@
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9:11pm Wed 8 Sep 10
BigTommy wrote:I know everyone likes a conspiracy but this is taking it a bit far isn't people!?
Susie1000 - it is obvious that the BFP is involved in this in some way. ~ There are many things that have been pointed out by the people responding to this story. There have been many other questions asked about Steve Hayes - his intentions regarding Wycombe Wanderers, his business dealings, his past, his relationships with councilors and council officials. Yet all the time the BFP resolutely refuse get involved. ~ This week's misleading headlines are just the latest piece of the jigsaw. Remember when their reporter spoke to Wycome fans before a game about a new stadium and they only used the positive comments? ~ The paper is very quick to make mountains out of molehills when reporting other stories, using overtly emotive headlines, etc. Yet in this case they are prepared to make molehills out of mountains. ~ Ask yourselves ... WHY?
DeepThinker
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9:24pm Wed 8 Sep 10
wayneo
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9:46pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Truth@ wrote:Personally I think the BFP have been fantastic at providing us with as much information as possible, even to their own detriment. Oliver Evans especially, was proactive at trying to uncover what "the Council" was/is hiding from us. I have undertaken much research into this and i'm afraid the label of it being a conspiracy is well-founded but the BFP aren't involved. The BFP/Gannet are a commercial organisation and despite them still having to protect their advertising revenue and despite various accusations of bias from all sides , I am absolutely certain that Steve Cohen is as straight as a dye and that he would not be swayed from being factual.
BigTommy wrote: Susie1000 - it is obvious that the BFP is involved in this in some way. ~ There are many things that have been pointed out by the people responding to this story. There have been many other questions asked about Steve Hayes - his intentions regarding Wycombe Wanderers, his business dealings, his past, his relationships with councilors and council officials. Yet all the time the BFP resolutely refuse get involved. ~ This week's misleading headlines are just the latest piece of the jigsaw. Remember when their reporter spoke to Wycome fans before a game about a new stadium and they only used the positive comments? ~ The paper is very quick to make mountains out of molehills when reporting other stories, using overtly emotive headlines, etc. Yet in this case they are prepared to make molehills out of mountains. ~ Ask yourselves ... WHY?I know everyone likes a conspiracy but this is taking it a bit far isn't people!? The whole Hayes-WDC-stadium thing stinks to high heaven, but the BFP being involved is pushing it a bit far isn’t it!? It's hardly misleading to say 'consultation given thumbs up' when in the first para it says 'councillors approved it'. The council even blocked a FOI by the BFP over stadium documents but released them to a member of the public. - This is behind doors dealings between Hayes and Clarke’s cronies, who obviously won’t tell the BFP or us anything about it. It’s already a stitch up that a stadium will be built at the Air Park, no matter what comes out of this ‘consultation’, and it will be paid for by us, the gullible tax payer. We should all vote for ‘no stadium’ or the Adams Park option on this ‘consultation’ to see if they really will listen to the people….I doubt it somehow.
J B Blackett
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9:57pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Ewartwhatyoubulldoze wrote:Well I appreciated that comment (I think).
Once again it's the people of Wycombe District who are going to have to wrestle with this Giant Hayes Tax
wayneo
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10:13pm Wed 8 Sep 10
DeepThinker wrote:answers:
Can the Bucks Free Press use its resources and know-how to find out the following. 1. What was the level of WW debt prior to the Hayes take-over? 2. What is that level of debt now? 3. What is the approximate value of the ground if housing development is granted? 4. Who owns the ground? WW, Wasps, Hayes, who? 5. Could revenue from the sale of the ground be used to prop up Wasps, WW, both? 6. Could Hayes let WW go into administration, thus allowing all the money from the development of the old ground go into either his own pocket or that of Wasps ... or both? It is not difficult to imagine WW going under and Hayes taking Wasps to a new council owned stadium and using any money from the sale of the old ground to put into Wasps (or his own pocket). 7. Are any loans for Hayes, WW or Wasps secured against Adams Park? No doubt there are various holding companies involved. In short what I want to know is: "Is it possible for Steve Hayes to get rid of WW by selling the club or letting it collapse, whilst at the same time using all the profits from the sale of Adams Park to pump money into the ailing finances at Wasps and reduce overheads by renting the new stadium on a match by match basis from the council?" - "Can Hayes effectively asset strip WW for the benefit of Wasps (or his own pocket)?" This won't work if the council are not prepared to spend over £4 million (and the rest) of public money on a new stadium. If the council do go ahead they are effectively spending £4m+ to pay off Wasps debts.
Steve Totteridge Hill
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1:18am Thu 9 Sep 10
Steve Totteridge Hill wrote:Easy answer is more!
How much will this cost US?
ivor
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1:22am Thu 9 Sep 10
susie1000
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8:19am Thu 9 Sep 10
wayneo
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Fit2drop
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11:26am Thu 9 Sep 10
JP80
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12:05pm Thu 9 Sep 10
gungun
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6:13pm Thu 9 Sep 10
freeforall
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6:16pm Thu 9 Sep 10
freeforall
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6:19pm Thu 9 Sep 10
gungun
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6:23pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Ewartwhatyoubulldoze
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7:04pm Thu 9 Sep 10
J B Blackett wrote:Thanks JBB. You are the Daddy.
Ewartwhatyoubulldoze wrote:Well I appreciated that comment (I think).
Once again it's the people of Wycombe District who are going to have to wrestle with this Giant Hayes Tax
J B Blackett
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10:02pm Thu 9 Sep 10
A VOTER
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10:43am Fri 10 Sep 10
freeforall wrote:GREAT IDEA.
ps locals opposed to the madcap idea should call a local referendum in the same way locals in Marlow did to frustrate the council from ussing compulsory purchase orders to buy out a local undertakers just to make way for a huge Waitrose superstore.
wayneo
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12:06pm Fri 10 Sep 10
A VOTER wrote:Six or more parishioners, who must all be on the electoral roll for the parish, can convene a parish meeting to consider any business which is a matter of concern to the parish. There is no requirement in the Act for parishioners to ask for the permission of the Parish Council to do this
freeforall wrote: ps locals opposed to the madcap idea should call a local referendum in the same way locals in Marlow did to frustrate the council from ussing compulsory purchase orders to buy out a local undertakers just to make way for a huge Waitrose superstore.GREAT IDEA. . But just how do we, the local taxpayers, call a local referendum?
A VOTER
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12:16pm Fri 10 Sep 10
wayneo wrote:So..... With all the enthusiasm we have here, and all the support to stop this total waste of our money, can we muster 6 or more local parishoners to convene a suitable meeting?
A VOTER wrote:Six or more parishioners, who must all be on the electoral roll for the parish, can convene a parish meeting to consider any business which is a matter of concern to the parish. There is no requirement in the Act for parishioners to ask for the permission of the Parish Council to do this www.iwantareferendum .com/publication/par ishes.docfreeforall wrote: ps locals opposed to the madcap idea should call a local referendum in the same way locals in Marlow did to frustrate the council from ussing compulsory purchase orders to buy out a local undertakers just to make way for a huge Waitrose superstore.GREAT IDEA. . But just how do we, the local taxpayers, call a local referendum?
wayneo
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12:20pm Fri 10 Sep 10
A VOTER wrote:Already being arranged in Lane End.
wayneo wrote:So..... With all the enthusiasm we have here, and all the support to stop this total waste of our money, can we muster 6 or more local parishoners to convene a suitable meeting?A VOTER wrote:Six or more parishioners, who must all be on the electoral roll for the parish, can convene a parish meeting to consider any business which is a matter of concern to the parish. There is no requirement in the Act for parishioners to ask for the permission of the Parish Council to do this www.iwantareferendum .com/publication/par ishes.docfreeforall wrote: ps locals opposed to the madcap idea should call a local referendum in the same way locals in Marlow did to frustrate the council from ussing compulsory purchase orders to buy out a local undertakers just to make way for a huge Waitrose superstore.GREAT IDEA. . But just how do we, the local taxpayers, call a local referendum?
A VOTER
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12:26pm Fri 10 Sep 10
wayneo wrote:GREAT, count me in....
A VOTER wrote:Already being arranged in Lane End.wayneo wrote:So..... With all the enthusiasm we have here, and all the support to stop this total waste of our money, can we muster 6 or more local parishoners to convene a suitable meeting?A VOTER wrote:Six or more parishioners, who must all be on the electoral roll for the parish, can convene a parish meeting to consider any business which is a matter of concern to the parish. There is no requirement in the Act for parishioners to ask for the permission of the Parish Council to do this www.iwantareferendum .com/publication/par ishes.docfreeforall wrote: ps locals opposed to the madcap idea should call a local referendum in the same way locals in Marlow did to frustrate the council from ussing compulsory purchase orders to buy out a local undertakers just to make way for a huge Waitrose superstore.GREAT IDEA. . But just how do we, the local taxpayers, call a local referendum?
towncryer
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5:48pm Sat 11 Sep 10
wayneo
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6:16pm Sat 11 Sep 10
A VOTER wrote:A special meeting is being arranged by the Parish Council therefore it is likely we will ask or it then. A letter is also bein sent to the Secretary of State rearding the consultation and the fact that the Council clearly have a conflict of interest with regards to the planning aspect.
wayneo wrote:GREAT, count me in.... Where's the publicity, and when's the meeting taking place? . I want my vote to count!A VOTER wrote:Already being arranged in Lane End.wayneo wrote:So..... With all the enthusiasm we have here, and all the support to stop this total waste of our money, can we muster 6 or more local parishoners to convene a suitable meeting?A VOTER wrote:Six or more parishioners, who must all be on the electoral roll for the parish, can convene a parish meeting to consider any business which is a matter of concern to the parish. There is no requirement in the Act for parishioners to ask for the permission of the Parish Council to do this www.iwantareferendum .com/publication/par ishes.docfreeforall wrote: ps locals opposed to the madcap idea should call a local referendum in the same way locals in Marlow did to frustrate the council from ussing compulsory purchase orders to buy out a local undertakers just to make way for a huge Waitrose superstore.GREAT IDEA. . But just how do we, the local taxpayers, call a local referendum?
AL7
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10:26pm Sun 12 Sep 10
gungun wrote:Please, if you're going to mention other towns, at least get the name right. It should read Princes (bloody)Risborough
Public Consultation? Carefully picked locations I'd say - How about a venue in Booker or Lane End where the real impact is going to be felt - Or are they too scared they might hear some home truths - I mean we all know its going to be Wycombe Air park so why bother having a venue in Princess Bloody Risborough? Another waste of Money
J B Blackett
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4:48pm Mon 13 Sep 10
A VOTER
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5:41pm Mon 13 Sep 10
J B Blackett wrote:****, This "New Identity Program" needs an update... The public are on to Reggie's new ID.
Am I imagining things , or does Mr Hayes have a passing resemblance to a certain late-lamented Reggie Kray (all be it a with a jolly face instead of a miserable one) ? Same body type and colouring as well. Same tailor ? . Pure coincidence , I suppose.
gpn01
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10:56pm Mon 13 Sep 10
J B Blackett
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1:05am Tue 14 Sep 10
gpn01 wrote:Absolutely ! Deviousness again to the fore by WDC trying to hoodwink the citizens
"Liberal Democrat Cllr Trevor Snaith asked the ruling Conservative council why the consultation did not give residents the chance to vote against a stadium at a Full Council meeting last month.
But Mr Unsworth told the Bucks Free Press that Adams Park had been shortlisted for those residents who wanted the current set up to remain the same. "
As a council taxpayer and local resident I want an option to spend NOTHING more on the stadium project. And no, that doesn't mean coming up with some financial wizardry that revalues existing council assets so that they can be sold off to fund the project either!
gpn01
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11:23pm Wed 15 Sep 10
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Steve Totteridge Hill says...
1:44pm Wed 8 Sep 10